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Paul Bennington

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Jan 23, 2005, 5:19:38 AM1/23/05
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..... or is this newsgroup becoming more of a soap box for religious,
political, etc discussions instead of the great place for puzzles that used
to be?


Mark Brader

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Jan 23, 2005, 5:34:15 AM1/23/05
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Paul Bennington:

> ..... or is this newsgroup becoming more of a soap box for religious,
> political, etc discussions instead of the great place for puzzles that used
> to be?

I say again, "/,.*,.*,/HNewsgroups:j".
--
Mark Brader "We can get ideas even from a clever man." ...
Toronto "Yes, I think you can. Even ideas you should
m...@vex.net have had yourselves." -- John Dickson Carr

Prai Jei

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Jan 23, 2005, 6:01:55 AM1/23/05
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Paul Bennington (or somebody else of the same name) wrote thusly in message
<_SKId.16565$GG1....@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk>:

> ..... or is this newsgroup becoming more of a soap box for religious,
> political, etc discussions instead of the great place for puzzles that
> used to be?

It's not you, it's the trolls.
--
Paul Townsend
Pair them off into threes

Interchange the alphabetic letter groups to reply

Pazqo

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Jan 23, 2005, 6:26:21 AM1/23/05
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Prai Jei wrote:
> Paul Bennington (or somebody else of the same name) wrote thusly in message
> <_SKId.16565$GG1....@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk>:
>
>
>>..... or is this newsgroup becoming more of a soap box for religious,
>>political, etc discussions instead of the great place for puzzles that
>>used to be?
>
>
> It's not you, it's the trolls.

so, is not only italy...
:-P
have you ever heard about Andrea Sorrentino?
he's a new-ager... and he thinks that every mathematician is convinced
that a pizza over a plate is like an half a pizza over an half a plate...
and he also thinks that 3*0 is 3, since multiplying by zero means "
doesn't multiply at all"...

see you!

pazqo


sorry for my english, i'm still improving it!

Paul Bennington

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Jan 23, 2005, 7:06:54 AM1/23/05
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"Pazqo" <pa...@libero.it> wrote in message
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>
> sorry for my english, i'm still improving it!

No need to apologise. Its a lot better than my Italian!

Chow :o)

Paul Bennington

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Jan 23, 2005, 7:07:44 AM1/23/05
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"Mark Brader" <m...@vex.net> wrote in message
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> I say again, "/,.*,.*,/HNewsgroups:j".
> --

That's strange, I have never seen you say that before!


Pazqo

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Jan 23, 2005, 7:38:45 AM1/23/05
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:-P
i'll never be sure of my english so i keep apologising... :-P

see you!
pazqo

Phil Carmody

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Jan 23, 2005, 7:52:46 AM1/23/05
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"Paul Bennington" <paulben...@bTlRuOeUySoEnRdSer.co.uk> writes:

Recent stuff disappears instantly with the (GNUS) killfiling filter:

("xref"
(":.*:.*:.*:.*:" -1000 nil r)
("alt.religion.wicca" -1000 nil s))

(where r=>regexp, s=>substring)

Netscape-alikes have a #newsgroups rule, IIRC, which can take the place of the top one.

Phil
--
Excerpt from Geoff Bulter's Proscriptive Dictionary:
aaa Don't use this, there's no such word
aaaa Don't use this, there's no such word
aaaaa Don't use this, there's no such word

Michael Mendelsohn

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Jan 23, 2005, 8:28:43 AM1/23/05
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Paul Bennington schrieb:

> ..... or is this newsgroup becoming more of a soap box for religious,
> political, etc discussions instead of the great place for puzzles that used
> to be?

I just press K on those threads, which causes my newsreader to mark the
then and future posts as read. If noone from here responds, hopefully
the trolls will stop crossposting here.

Cheers
Michael
--
It's silly talking about how many years we will have to spend
in the jungles of Vietnam when we could pave the whole country
and put parking stripes on it and still be home by Christmas.
-- Ronald Reagan, October 10, 1965

Phil Carmody

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Jan 23, 2005, 9:06:13 AM1/23/05
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"Paul Bennington" <paulben...@bTlRuOeUySoEnRdSer.co.uk> writes:

Oh, I think he sent it to at least 4 groups, I'm surprised
you didn't see it in one of them.

Jens Kruse Andersen

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Jan 23, 2005, 9:15:46 AM1/23/05
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The main sinners lately have been "Aunty Kreist"
<Aunty_...@satanickittens.net> and "Gactimus" <gact...@xrs.net>.
They have several times crossposted to many irrelevant groups. Lots of people
(in other groups?) have then posted followups to all the groups.
Don't feed the trolls.

Gactimus' header says:
X-Complaints-To: ab...@cox.net

Can somebody stop Aunty and Gactimus?

--
Jens Kruse Andersen


Crs smitty

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Jan 23, 2005, 12:50:26 PM1/23/05
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>Message-id: <JkOId.102$Yt1...@news.get2net.dk>
Well religion is very possibly the biggest puzzle mankind ever faced!
Certainly it is a puzzle how so many people can buy something so unprovable in
the first place and then actually attempt to prove it with their simplistic
phony logic. They are not of puzzle group timbre! I have been answering these
trolls only to see if I can see my post as AOL is currently giving us extremely
poor newsgroup service !! Less than ten percent of posts that they say are
there can be accessed, and there is nothing downloadable anywhere - even in the
binaries newsgroups. It appears they are trying to lose some AOLers - this has
even started rumors in some newsgroups that AOL is dropping newsgroup services.
Time to leave them anyway I guess!

I doubt I'll see post!

Smitty

Paul Bennington

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Jan 23, 2005, 1:12:24 PM1/23/05
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"Crs smitty" <crss...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20050123125026...@mb-m20.aol.com...
> >Message-id: <JkOId.102$Yt1...@news.get2net.dk>
>>
<snip>

> I have been answering these
> trolls only to see if I can see my post as AOL is currently giving us
> extremely
> poor newsgroup service !! Less than ten percent of posts that they say
> are
> there can be accessed, and there is nothing downloadable anywhere - even
> in the
> binaries newsgroups. It appears they are trying to lose some AOLers -
> this has
> even started rumors in some newsgroups that AOL is dropping newsgroup
> services.
> Time to leave them anyway I guess!
>

Better to use one of the test newsgroups to see if you can see posts rather
than feeding the trolls!


Prai Jei

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Jan 23, 2005, 1:35:57 PM1/23/05
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Pazqo (or somebody else of the same name) wrote thusly in message
<xRLId.5012$5k5.1...@twister2.libero.it>:

> so, is not only italy...
> :-P
> have you ever heard about Andrea Sorrentino?
> he's a new-ager... and he thinks that every mathematician is convinced
> that a pizza over a plate is like an half a pizza over an half a plate...
>

> sorry for my english, i'm still improving it!

You might like to take a look at the "a and an" thread. It's "a" before
"half".

Ian Noble

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Jan 23, 2005, 6:23:11 PM1/23/05
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On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 18:35:57 +0000, Prai Jei
<pvsto...@zyx-abc.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:

>Pazqo (or somebody else of the same name) wrote thusly in message
><xRLId.5012$5k5.1...@twister2.libero.it>:
>
>> so, is not only italy...
>> :-P
>> have you ever heard about Andrea Sorrentino?
>> he's a new-ager... and he thinks that every mathematician is convinced
>> that a pizza over a plate is like an half a pizza over an half a plate...
>>
>> sorry for my english, i'm still improving it!
>
>You might like to take a look at the "a and an" thread. It's "a" before
>"half".

Or alternately, spend some time over alt.usage.english or
alt.english.usage, where you'll discover that such definitive
statements are invariably over-generalised. It's either.

Cheers - Ian

Prai Jei

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Jan 24, 2005, 1:54:10 PM1/24/05
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Ian Noble (or somebody else of the same name) wrote thusly in message
<e9c8v05hg2ro8dd97...@4ax.com>:

They say you should never use a preposition to end a sentence with. But I
now see that the use of a conjunction to begin a sentence is allowed.

Paul Bennington

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Jan 24, 2005, 2:53:15 PM1/24/05
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"Prai Jei" <pvsto...@zyx-abc.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message
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>
> They say you should never use a preposition to end a sentence with. But I
> now see that the use of a conjunction to begin a sentence is allowed.
> --

And its probably bad English to put extra unnecessary words at the end of
sentences (like the "with" in your first sentence) :o)


Earle Jones

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Jan 24, 2005, 3:23:51 PM1/24/05
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In article <LmcJd.17964$GG1....@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk>,
"Paul Bennington" <paulben...@bTlRuOeUySoEnRdSer.co.uk> wrote:

*
And something tells me that it went over your head.

earle
*

Ian Noble

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Jan 24, 2005, 3:31:12 PM1/24/05
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On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 18:54:10 +0000, Prai Jei
<pvsto...@zyx-abc.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:

>Ian Noble (or somebody else of the same name) wrote thusly in message
><e9c8v05hg2ro8dd97...@4ax.com>:
>
>> On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 18:35:57 +0000, Prai Jei
>> <pvsto...@zyx-abc.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>>Pazqo (or somebody else of the same name) wrote thusly in message
>>><xRLId.5012$5k5.1...@twister2.libero.it>:
>>>
>>>> so, is not only italy...
>>>> :-P
>>>> have you ever heard about Andrea Sorrentino?
>>>> he's a new-ager... and he thinks that every mathematician is convinced
>>>> that a pizza over a plate is like an half a pizza over an half a
>>>> plate...
>>>>
>>>> sorry for my english, i'm still improving it!
>>>
>>>You might like to take a look at the "a and an" thread. It's "a" before
>>>"half".
>> Or alternately, spend some time over alt.usage.english or
>> alt.english.usage, where you'll discover that such definitive
>> statements are invariably over-generalised. It's either.
>
>They say you should never use a preposition to end a sentence with.

"They" are wrong ("This is the sort of bloody nonsense up with which I
will not put", to quote Winston Churchill on that very topic).

>But I now see that the use of a conjunction to begin a sentence is allowed.

It didn't seem to bother Shakespeare. I don't feel inclined to argue.

For whatever reason, you appear to believe that there are absolute
rules as to what is "correct" English. That is, simply, untrue.
"Grammar" is useful as a guide. But ultimately that is all it is.

Regards
*male embraces female throughout

Ian Noble

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Jan 25, 2005, 3:03:19 AM1/25/05
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It's not remotely bad (although he or she did it deliberately). It
was never much more than a matter of style in any case, except where
the most mediocre and pedantic school teachers were concerned.

Cheers - Ian

George Weinberg

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Jan 25, 2005, 4:06:29 PM1/25/05
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On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 20:31:12 +0000, Ian Noble <fr...@clara.co.uk>
wrote:


>>But I now see that the use of a conjunction to begin a sentence is allowed.
>
>It didn't seem to bother Shakespeare. I don't feel inclined to argue.
>

But think of the edge you have: "I take your silence as proof that you
conceed my point".

>For whatever reason, you appear to believe that there are absolute
>rules as to what is "correct" English. That is, simply, untrue.
>"Grammar" is useful as a guide. But ultimately that is all it is.
>

What about corect speling?

>Regards
>*male embraces female throughout

Yeah, he'll do that.

George

George Weinberg

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Jan 25, 2005, 4:01:24 PM1/25/05
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On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 08:03:19 +0000, Ian Noble <fr...@clara.co.uk>
wrote:

>On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 19:53:15 GMT, "Paul Bennington"

Not quite. The proper rule is against dangling prepositions, not
terminal prepositions. So, for exapmle, you should ask
"where is the library?" rather than "where is the library at?",
but "at where is the library?" is also wrong.

There's no point in being too picky about grammer, though, as long as
we can understand each other. There's only one formal grammatical rule
I absoulutely insist on: in every sentence, a verb.

George

Ian Noble

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Jan 26, 2005, 5:17:46 PM1/26/05
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On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 13:06:29 -0800, George Weinberg
<eor...@covad.net> wrote:

>On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 20:31:12 +0000, Ian Noble <fr...@clara.co.uk>
>wrote:
>
>
>>>But I now see that the use of a conjunction to begin a sentence is allowed.
>>
>>It didn't seem to bother Shakespeare. I don't feel inclined to argue.
>>
>
>But think of the edge you have: "I take your silence as proof that you
>conceed my point".
>
>
>
>>For whatever reason, you appear to believe that there are absolute
>>rules as to what is "correct" English. That is, simply, untrue.
>>"Grammar" is useful as a guide. But ultimately that is all it is.
>>
>
>What about corect speling?
>

If you happen to be American, it seems to have been optional ever
since Noah Webster. ;-)

Cheers - ian

Paul Bennington

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Jan 28, 2005, 12:46:00 PM1/28/05
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"Earle Jones" <earle...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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Doh! Just reread it! Must have been having an off day!!


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