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What is it? Set 492

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Rob H.

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May 9, 2013, 4:05:16 AM5/9/13
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This week's set has been posted:

http://55tools.blogspot.com/


Rob

mbuck

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May 9, 2013, 5:01:57 AM5/9/13
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First one to post.....and I have no idea about ANY of the items. :-(

What a waste.

mbuck

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May 9, 2013, 5:34:55 AM5/9/13
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On Thursday, May 9, 2013 4:05:16 PM UTC+8, Rob H. wrote:
OK, Ill try:
2863: A steel Clampoon
2864: A grinding ball from the front of a drilling rig
2865: A swedish carving knife, for making those wooden cups
2866: For hanging pictures off a metal strip along the top of a wall
2869: Part of the grinding gears from a cement mixer
2868: Leather gunpowder thing,

Now to see if any of them were even in the same ballpark as close.

Alexander Thesoso

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May 9, 2013, 6:27:11 AM5/9/13
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2863 The respectful guess is that this is a pointer used for keeping
place in the process of reading scripture. A less respectful guess is
back-scratcher.

Alexander Thesoso

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May 9, 2013, 6:30:56 AM5/9/13
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2864 Guess... A musket ball that has corroded and then been cleaned up.

On 5/9/2013 4:05 AM, Rob H. wrote:

Lloyd E. Sponenburgh

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May 9, 2013, 6:53:47 AM5/9/13
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Alexander Thesoso <alexande...@hotmail.com> fired this volley in
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> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>

2867 is a burr from a coffee mill -- one of the higher-speed commercial
mills, like you see in grocery stores. (I have a stack of them, which we
use for grinding chemicals, so I'm not guessing)

LLoyd

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May 9, 2013, 7:20:56 AM5/9/13
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> http://55tools.blogspot.com/

2863 - Jeweler's ring mandrel

2866- Bottle opener

2868 - Barrel cover for an artillery piece

Ted Schuerzinger

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May 9, 2013, 7:45:59 AM5/9/13
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On 9 May 2013 01:05:16 -0700, Rob H. wrote:

> This week's set has been posted:

2864: A baby <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pet_rock>

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phorbin

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May 9, 2013, 8:55:36 AM5/9/13
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In article <kmflb...@drn.newsguy.com>, Rob_m...@newsguy.com says...
> This week's set has been posted:
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> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
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> Rob
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2864 makes me think of a worn/tumbled/eroded galena crystal.

2867 Spice grinder/pepper mill burr

Ed Huntress

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May 9, 2013, 8:23:31 AM5/9/13
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2867 - looks like the spiral-bevel driven gear for a small angle-head
hand tool, such as an angle-head drill motor.

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Lloyd E. Sponenburgh

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May 9, 2013, 8:35:53 AM5/9/13
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Ed Huntress <hunt...@optonline.net> fired this volley in
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> 2867 - looks like the spiral-bevel driven gear for a small angle-head
> hand tool, such as an angle-head drill motor.

It certainly could be. There are very few differences between a plain
burr and a gear, except where it's used.

I said I was sure -- wasn't guessing. Now you have me wondering if I
shouln't have jumped on it so quickly! <G>

Lloyd

Ed Huntress

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May 9, 2013, 8:41:13 AM5/9/13
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Don't wonder. After posting my suggestion I read yours and slapped my
head..."of course, dummy," says I to myself.

So now we've sown doubt in each other. d8-)

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Lloyd E. Sponenburgh

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May 9, 2013, 8:49:26 AM5/9/13
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Ed Huntress <hunt...@optonline.net> fired this volley in
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> So now we've sown doubt in each other. d8-)
>

Heh! "Decision by committee!" <G>

Lloyd

Leon

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May 9, 2013, 9:57:38 AM5/9/13
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Is that your "final" guess? :~) I think I would agree with you that
does look like you said.

Leon

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May 9, 2013, 10:05:26 AM5/9/13
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2864. I going to guess one of thousands used to polish raw castings.

2865. With the handle being approximately 10" long the triangular piece
is used to do things that require a triangular shaped object. The
symmetrical shape from one side to the other aids in implementing the
required action to complete the task of doing something with the
triangular shaped piece. Ok, I'll stop now. ;~)

Leon

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May 9, 2013, 10:07:16 AM5/9/13
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Actually I think I have seen something similar used to skin an animal.

Walter Kraft

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May 9, 2013, 11:21:58 AM5/9/13
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2866.... Case puller to use with shotguns without ejektors.

Walter

Walter Kraft

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May 9, 2013, 11:48:08 AM5/9/13
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lol..


You may check the What is it Blog , Set # 423

Ralph

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May 9, 2013, 1:27:30 PM5/9/13
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On 5/9/2013 3:05 AM, Rob H. wrote:
2865 Is a knife to cut the twine on corn bundles when feeding it into a
corn shredder. I used one like that 60 years ago.

Joe Makowiec

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May 9, 2013, 1:26:09 PM5/9/13
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Going back a couple of weeks - the blade looks like it could be a knife
from a sickle bar, possibly one which has been replaced, which is fitted
into a homemade handle.

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Ralph

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May 9, 2013, 2:02:20 PM5/9/13
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On 5/9/2013 12:26 PM, Joe Makowiec wrote:
> On 09 May 2013 in rec.woodworking, Ralph wrote:
>
>> On 5/9/2013 3:05 AM, Rob H. wrote:
>>> This week's set has been posted:
>>>
>>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>>
>>>
>>> Rob
>>>
>> 2865 Is a knife to cut the twine on corn bundles when feeding it
>> into a corn shredder. I used one like that 60 years ago.
>
> Going back a couple of weeks - the blade looks like it could be a knife
> from a sickle bar, possibly one which has been replaced, which is fitted
> into a homemade handle.
>
Yes it was a section used on sickles. Very likely a home made tool.

Steve W.

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May 9, 2013, 2:22:36 PM5/9/13
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2863 -

2864 - Looks like an old musket ball.

2865 - Home made stalk/cane cutter. Made quite a few for folks. Not sure
if they were sold commercially or not.

2866 -

2867 - Portable grain/coffee mill burr.

2868 -


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Rob H.

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May 9, 2013, 4:23:32 PM5/9/13
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>
>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>
>
>2867 is a burr from a coffee mill -- one of the higher-speed commercial
>mills, like you see in grocery stores. (I have a stack of them, which we
>use for grinding chemicals, so I'm not guessing)
>
>LLoyd


Sounds like a good answer, I did a quick search and couldn't find one like it
but
hopefully will by tomorrow.

Thanks,
Rob

Rob H.

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May 9, 2013, 4:33:54 PM5/9/13
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In article <518bc53a$0$6582$9b4e...@newsspool3.arcor-online.net>, Walter Kraft
says...
Good memory! Someone had just sent me a couple of photos of the shell puller so
I
went ahead and posted it again. Years ago when someone would send me something
that I had previously posted I would tell them thanks but I already posted one
of
those, but I've since change my policy and now repost things once in a while. I
appreciate it when people send me items to post, and if nothing else it serves
as
a memory test.

Rob

Rob H.

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May 9, 2013, 4:36:59 PM5/9/13
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In article <kmgm2s$3ea$1...@dont-email.me>, Ralph says...
That's it! As seen on page 255 of the Dictionary of American Hand Tools under
the
category of knife, he calls it a Bale Tie Cutter.

Rob H.

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May 9, 2013, 4:38:32 PM5/9/13
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>>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>>
>>>
>>> Rob
>>>
>> 2865 Is a knife to cut the twine on corn bundles when feeding it
>> into a corn shredder. I used one like that 60 years ago.
>
>Going back a couple of weeks - the blade looks like it could be a knife
>from a sickle bar, possibly one which has been replaced, which is fitted
>into a homemade handle.


Yes, I've seen a few of these tools and every one of them looked homemade from
part of a sickle bar blade.

anorton

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May 9, 2013, 4:51:31 PM5/9/13
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"Lloyd E. Sponenburgh" <lloydspinsidemindspring.com> wrote in message
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It is only 1.5" dia., are commercial grinder burrs really that small?

To me it looks more like a drive washer:
http://www.heliproz.com/22808000-Drive-Washer-21-32-OSMG5496/productinfo/147760/


cmdrp...@gmail.com

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May 9, 2013, 4:56:35 PM5/9/13
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On Thursday, May 9, 2013 1:05:16 AM UTC-7, Rob H. wrote:
> This week's set has been posted:
>
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> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
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> 2863 is a commemorative pen (or pencil) from the 10 Olympiad (1932, Los Angeles) in the shape of the Olympic torch
>
> Rob

Lloyd E. Sponenburgh

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"anorton" <ano...@removethis.ix.netcom.com> fired this volley in
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> It is only 1.5" dia., are commercial grinder burrs really that small?

A few are, but only the fine-grind "expresso" types. I've only had a
couple that small, and they weren't useful for chemicals grinding. The
rest those I saved are from 2.5" o.d. to 5" o.d., and of varying types.

Some have 'plain' surfaces like that (but it still could be a helical
gear!)
Some have an auger in the center.
Some have "cut teeth" where the helical teeth have been gouged at periods
to provide movement of the material. Usually the gouging is in a spiral.
Some have only 'spikes', and no radial or helical teeth at all.
Some have round holes.
Some have square holes.
Some have mounting holes for a bushing or boss.

I don't think anyone ever decided what is the optimum configuration for a
coffee grinding burr!

The ones I have all share two things: They came from an A&P Grocery
store warehouse shutdown, and they're all harder than a witch's heart!
You could cut C-90 cobalt tools with 'em!

Lloyd

DoN. Nichols

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May 9, 2013, 6:17:50 PM5/9/13
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On 2013-05-09, Rob H <Rob_m...@newsguy.com> wrote:
> This week's set has been posted:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/

Posting from Rec.crafts.metalworking as always.

2863) Hmm ... some sort of ceremonial baton. Given the green
color, I suspect some Irish group, but it could be green
for ceremonial reasons in any number of organizations which
I don't know the details of.

2864) Is that weight estimate accurate? If it is sort of close,
perhaps a ball of Tungsten. Nobody tried to see how hard it is?
If it is easy to dent, lead itself is likely. If very hard,
Tungsten is possible. Or perhaps something like depleted
Uranium?

2865) Is it sharp or dull? If sharp, a custom purpose knife. If
dull, perhaps used for smoothing edges.

2866) Likely intended to slip onto disc-shaped projections from
a truck or aircraft body to use for attaching cargo nets and
ropes to keep things from shifting in transit.

2867) A hypoid style gear (combination of a bevel gear and an input
gear whose axis is below or above the center height of the gear
shown. It is likely part of a differential, and based on the
size, it is most likely from a toy car of some sort. Not even
one big enough for a kid to ride on.

Now -- it *might* be some form of cutter, instead. But to tell
that would require the rust and dirt to be cleaned off it, and
ideally to see it in its pre-rust condition.

2868) Hmmm .... aside from the fitting in the bottom center, it looks
rather like one of the waxed leather drinking flasks found in
various medieval reenactment gatherings. But at 14" tall, that
is a lot to drink. :-)

The bottom think looks like it is designed to snap into some
sort of mounting place. Perhaps it is designed to capture leaks
from some sort of lubricator, and to allow it to be poured back
into the supply vessel at the top?

Now to post, and then see what others have suggested.

Enjoy,
DoN.

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DoN. Nichols

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May 9, 2013, 6:27:51 PM5/9/13
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On 2013-05-09, Lloyd E. Sponenburgh <lloydspinsidemindspring.com> wrote:

> Some have 'plain' surfaces like that (but it still could be a helical
> gear!)
> Some have an auger in the center.
> Some have "cut teeth" where the helical teeth have been gouged at periods
> to provide movement of the material. Usually the gouging is in a spiral.
> Some have only 'spikes', and no radial or helical teeth at all.
> Some have round holes.
> Some have square holes.
> Some have mounting holes for a bushing or boss.
>
> I don't think anyone ever decided what is the optimum configuration for a
> coffee grinding burr!

Perhaps it is a result of trying to get around various patented
designs -- during the period when the patents were still valid?

> The ones I have all share two things: They came from an A&P Grocery
> store warehouse shutdown, and they're all harder than a witch's heart!
> You could cut C-90 cobalt tools with 'em!

Sound useful, then.

anorton

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May 9, 2013, 7:41:32 PM5/9/13
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"Lloyd E. Sponenburgh" <lloydspinsidemindspring.com> wrote in message
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Well then, if 2867 is hard, it is likely a grinder. If it is soft it is
likely a drive washer.

mbuck

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May 10, 2013, 1:51:43 AM5/10/13
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Stormin Mormon

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May 10, 2013, 8:45:45 AM5/10/13
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Posting from my desktop PC in the living room, as always.

2863, probably a ceremonial staff, carried in parades.
2864, no clue.
2865, short barrel tomohawk, easily concealed.
2866, Reminds me of the ring the dentist wears with the cleaning paste.
2867, badly rusted. But looks like a machinst mill.
2868, no clue.

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Nick

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May 10, 2013, 9:11:49 AM5/10/13
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"Rob H." <Rob_m...@newsguy.com> wrote in message
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> This week's set has been posted:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Rob
>
2863- Military origin, from 265th Maintenance Battalion.. My guess would be
that it's ceremonial. Possibly a baton, swagger stick or (unlikely) drum
stick. Dunno.


Rob H.

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May 10, 2013, 4:29:02 PM5/10/13
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No luck yet identifying the rock but the answers for the rest of this set have
been posted:

http://55tools.blogspot.com/2013/05/set-492.html#answers


Rob

phorbin

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May 10, 2013, 5:55:52 PM5/10/13
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In article <kmjla...@drn.newsguy.com>, Rob_m...@newsguy.com says...
> No luck yet identifying the rock but the answers for the rest of this set have
> been posted:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/2013/05/set-492.html#answers

I think you said something about lead.

Look at the crystal structure of galena.

Have them do a hardness and streak test.
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