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pgoolsby

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May 17, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/17/00
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Hi Everyone I need help, I have just done my first pond I am really
excited about it and am ready to add fish and flowers now.
Can someone recommend a good fish type to start with and blooming
flowers.
My pond is about 10 by 12 feet 2 1/2 feet deep.
I know it is kind of large for a starter pond but I have faith, I am
really excited about it and cant wait to be able to sit back relaxe and
watch the fish.
Wal-Mart here in town has common gold fish very cheap like 20cents a
piece can I start with these are should I leave those for feeder fish.
I would like to know some other types of fish also, I hear that the
black mollies are good and what about the painted glass tetra? Please
any and all comments are appreciated.

Thanks


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arrakis

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May 17, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/17/00
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In article <0f553ea2...@usw-ex0106-044.remarq.com>,

pgoolsby <pgoolsby...@olemiss.edu.invalid> wrote:
>Hi Everyone I need help, I have just done my first pond I am
really
>excited about it and am ready to add fish and flowers now.
>Can someone recommend a good fish type to start with and
blooming
>flowers.
>My pond is about 10 by 12 feet 2 1/2 feet deep.
>I know it is kind of large for a starter pond but I have faith,
I am
>really excited about it and cant wait to be able to sit back
relaxe and
>watch the fish.
>Wal-Mart here in town has common gold fish very cheap like
20cents a
>piece can I start with these are should I leave those for
feeder fish.
>I would like to know some other types of fish also, I hear that
the
>black mollies are good and what about the painted glass tetra?
Please
>any and all comments are appreciated.
>
>Thanks

Mollies,painted glass tetras(a horrible dye-injected pet industry
shame),etc.,are tropicals that would perish unless you lived in a
warm year round climate.Comets,shubunkins,fantails,etc.,are hardy
and colorful,and a pond your size can house several koi.Feeder
goldfish can harbor disease or parasites and should be
quarantined or avoided.

Brian Krause

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May 17, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/17/00
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Well,
I started with goldfish...what am I saying...I am starting with goldfish...a
few fancy goldfish and a commet. I then had to go get white ogons(Koi).
I can't get enough. It's so kewl to watch then just sit there and do
nothing. I wish I was a fish LOL
"pgoolsby" <pgoolsby...@olemiss.edu.invalid> wrote in message
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> Hi Everyone I need help, I have just done my first pond I am really
> excited about it and am ready to add fish and flowers now.
> Can someone recommend a good fish type to start with and blooming
> flowers.
> My pond is about 10 by 12 feet 2 1/2 feet deep.
> I know it is kind of large for a starter pond but I have faith, I am
> really excited about it and cant wait to be able to sit back relaxe and
> watch the fish.
> Wal-Mart here in town has common gold fish very cheap like 20cents a
> piece can I start with these are should I leave those for feeder fish.
> I would like to know some other types of fish also, I hear that the
> black mollies are good and what about the painted glass tetra? Please
> any and all comments are appreciated.
>
> Thanks
>
>

K30a

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May 17, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/17/00
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There are no such thing as starter fish.
They will move in, put down money on a nice corner
of the pond, set about redecorating, have children, collect
food coupons, collect social security, break the
Medicare bank when they get sick (reference
posts about Goldy's fins rotting off).
If they get murdered by a heron, snake, bullfrog or
kingfisher you will become prosecuting attorney,
judge and jury in punishing the evil doer.

Starter fish _never_ leave the pond.

It is all part of the plan.
Since you already have a pond it is
to late for you.
The only thing you can
do is corrupt a neighbor into building a pond
and then you can
pass the starter fishes' children on to them.

k30a and the water gardening labradors
see the labradors at
http://www.daydreamergardens.com/2_level/articles/dog_how_to.htm
K30A and friends' pond information page
http://hometown.aol.com/k30a/myhomepage/writing.html


Kellie

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May 17, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/17/00
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You'll be very glad you made your pond that large to start with- rather I
should say, you would have been dissatisfied if you have started with a smaller
one! Goldfish are excellent starter fish, but don't get too many all at once,
and don't add them too soon. Make sure you've dechloraminated your pond with
Aquarelle or Ammo Lock 2 or one of those products. Let your pump (if you have
one) run for a week or preferably two. If you're operating a pond without a
pump and filter, keep the stocking rate of fish VERY low, and don't keep koi. I
started with a few 8 cent feeder goldfish from PetSmart and some of them are 8"
long now- five years later. I also got a few fantails- they are in the 5" range
now. Plain goldfish are especially hardy and good fish to try out your pond
with. When I bought the feeders, I carefully selected the ones that were red
and white (called sarassas). Now that ponding is so popular many pet stores
sort out the two colored ones and charge more for them because they know ponders
want them.

My very favorite flowering pond plant is a floater called Water Hyacinth. If
you live in the south you won't be able to find it in a store, but if you live
where you have winter freezes you should always get some each spring. It is a
good filter plant and it has neat looking bulbous leaves and pretty violet
flowers. You *must* get some water lilies. They are standard fare for the
water garden, and quite beautiful. The hardy ones come with blooms in shades of
pink/red, yellow and white and the tropical ones also come in blues and
violets. There are even night blooming tropicals. Day blooming lily blooms
only open from about 10 in the morning until 4 or 5 in the evening, then they
close up overnight. Each hardy flower opens for three days. If you work days
you might prefer a night blooming lily that would be open while you are there.
They open in the evening hours.

pgoolsby wrote:

> Hi Everyone I need help, I have just done my first pond I am really
> excited about it and am ready to add fish and flowers now.
> Can someone recommend a good fish type to start with and blooming
> flowers.
> My pond is about 10 by 12 feet 2 1/2 feet deep.
> I know it is kind of large for a starter pond but I have faith, I am
> really excited about it and cant wait to be able to sit back relaxe and
> watch the fish.
> Wal-Mart here in town has common gold fish very cheap like 20cents a
> piece can I start with these are should I leave those for feeder fish.
> I would like to know some other types of fish also, I hear that the
> black mollies are good and what about the painted glass tetra? Please
> any and all comments are appreciated.
>
> Thanks
>
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pgoolsby

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May 17, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/17/00
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Kellie:

Thanks for your fast response, I do have a pump and filter in and
running, I live in South (Mississippi) and the weather here has been
unusally hot already this year, the water is luke warm already it has
only been a couple of days since everything has been set up and ready
so you do suggest I wait another week or so to add the Fish?????
I really was ready to get it going but I don't want to do it to fast.
Thanks for your comment

Kellie

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May 17, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/17/00
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I recommend letting the pond age a bit and let some bacteria get going in there
to deal with the fish waste. A week at least, two would be better. And don't
add too many fish at once. Two or three to start. Add a couple more each
week. And don't go overboard. They WILL reproduce and you'll have too many in
no time.

Now, there are some DOs also- Do have fun!!! (I say all the don'ts to try to
save you some hassles.)


> ... it has


> only been a couple of days since everything has been set up and ready
> so you do suggest I wait another week or so to add the Fish?????
> I really was ready to get it going but I don't want to do it to fast.
> Thanks for your comment

--

dkat

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May 18, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/18/00
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I rescued some feeder fish when I first started my pond. I then went out
and bought "real" pond fish. A couple of koi and a couple of fantail. When
I was building my veggie filter and had my fish housed in a temporary pond
the raccoons got in and ate every fish but the feeder fish who were fast
enough or/and smart enough to get away. I still have those feeder fish and
have yet to go back out to buy some "real" fish. I know each one by their
markings and color and am very fond of my old timers. Then there are those
that would not look twice at a "feeder" fish. It really depends on what you
want out of your pond and your fish. What kind of other animals do you
like? A fantail is very much like a pug dog or a Persian cat. Comets are
more like a greyhound or abyssinian. A koi is - hmmm I guess I think of
them somewhere in the middle. Maybe like a Mainecoon or a basset hound. DK


pgoolsby wrote in message <0f553ea2...@usw-ex0106-044.remarq.com>...


>Hi Everyone I need help, I have just done my first pond I am really
>excited about it and am ready to add fish and flowers now.
>Can someone recommend a good fish type to start with and blooming
>flowers.
>My pond is about 10 by 12 feet 2 1/2 feet deep.
>I know it is kind of large for a starter pond but I have faith, I am
>really excited about it and cant wait to be able to sit back relaxe and
>watch the fish.
>Wal-Mart here in town has common gold fish very cheap like 20cents a
>piece can I start with these are should I leave those for feeder fish.
>I would like to know some other types of fish also, I hear that the
>black mollies are good and what about the painted glass tetra? Please
>any and all comments are appreciated.
>
>Thanks
>
>

dr-...@execpc.com

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May 18, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/18/00
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dont know how big your pond is but.....
1. wait until your pond warms up, goes green and you get it cleared up
2. start looking for plants for your pond and put them in when the temp of
the pond is around 65 or so
3. start looking for fish for your pond. you are not going to put new fish
into a BIG pond (over 1000 gallons), you are going to QUARANTINE (see care
section of http://puregold.aquaria.net/) them first in a smaller
container, preferably a 100 gallon rubbermaid with a net top and bucket
filter kept for this purpose. When they show no signs of disease after 2
weeks, they can be moved to the pond as long as the water temps are the
same. If you get a bunch of fish from walmart and dump them in there, you
are going to introduce disease to the pond.
4. start with only a couple of fish at a time, and get the ones YOU WANT
PERMANENTLY . there is no point in putting cheap, disease ridden fish now
to contaminate the whole pond.
5. get new ones for quarantine when the others make the move into the pond.
this gradual method lets the pond cope with increased wastes.
Ingrid

pgoolsby <pgoolsby...@olemiss.edu.invalid> wrote:
I have just done my first pond

>Wal-Mart here in town has common gold fish very cheap

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jan jordan

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May 19, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/19/00
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On Thu, 18 May 2000 14:40:15 +0100, "dkat" <dk...@ms.cc.sunysb.edu> wrote:

> A fantail is very much like a pug dog or a Persian cat. Comets are
>more like a greyhound or abyssinian. A koi is - hmmm I guess I think of
>them somewhere in the middle. Maybe like a Mainecoon or a basset hound. DK

My butterfly koi must be silky terriers. ;o)

As far as waiting and wanting to add now, you CAN buy the fish, just
quarantine them in an aquarium (or rubbermaid container with air pump run
corner filters). This way you'll know they're healthy, if you immediately
turn them loose in the pond and they die you're going to wonder "Is
something toxic in my pond?" When it was the fish that was sick and the
stress of moving killed it. Just a thought. ~ jan

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