Pond water Good for Glass?

joe sumner

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Sep 5, 1997, 3:00:00 AM9/5/97

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I'm new pond owner, and I have constructed a pond and placed sod around
the pond

When I do a water Change Will it damage the newly lade sod?

joe

Igfrey

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Sep 6, 1997, 3:00:00 AM9/6/97

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Goldfish

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Sep 6, 1997, 3:00:00 AM9/6/97

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> I'm new pond owner, and I have constructed a pond and placed sod around> the pond
>
> When I do a water Change Will it damage the newly lade sod?

Tell us more- is your pond lined with rubber or cement, or is it earth
bottomed? You really do not need to do frequent water changes, to be
honest.
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Chuck Rush

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Sep 6, 1997, 3:00:00 AM9/6/97

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joe sumner wrote:
>
> I'm new pond owner, and I have constructed a pond and placed sod around
> the pond
>
> When I do a water Change Will it damage the newly lade sod?
>

> joe

Doing water changes if there's nothing wrong with the water will
probably cause more problems with your pond than you want. If you
haven't bought your pond dealer's spiel about using all those chemicals
in your pond water, and if you've built your pond correctly, you don't
NEED to do water changes. Changing the water will stress your fish and
a stressed fish is more prone to disease. Also, what's to say that the
new water you're adding isn't loaded with stuff that you don't know
about? Periodically, water companies will hyper treat tap water...

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Jan Jordan

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Sep 6, 1997, 3:00:00 AM9/6/97

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>Doing water changes if there's nothing wrong with the water will
>probably cause more problems with your pond than you want. If you
>haven't bought your pond dealer's spiel about using all those chemicals
>in your pond water, and if you've built your pond correctly, you don't
>NEED to do water changes. Changing the water will stress your fish and
>a stressed fish is more prone to disease. Also, what's to say that the
>new water you're adding isn't loaded with stuff that you don't know
>about? Periodically, water companies will hyper treat tap water...

So, ah, Chuck, you don't do water changes?

jan/WA Zone 6.5 ~Keep 'em Wet!~
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Chris Shaw

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Sep 8, 1997, 3:00:00 AM9/8/97

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I am new to ponding this year but have read several books and
personally, I don't do water changes. I have a waterfall that's on 24
hours/day and so there is evaporation there. So when the level has
dropped a few inches after a week or so in the summer, I top it up with
rain water collected in a butt. This will take about 50-60 UK gallons
which is about a 5 percent change if you'd consider that a water change
but I tend to agree that I would only consider massive water changes if
there was a real problem I could not control some other way as I also
believe it stresses the fish and upsets the balance once you start
introducing tap water again to refill it.

I do use mechanical/bio filtration and a UV clarifier and the water is
crystal clear but I still test the water for pH, ammonia, nitrite and
nitrate every couple of weeks to be sure. So far, these are always
within safe limits, i.e. ph=7.5-8, ammonia, nitrite and nitrate all next
to nothing. My opinion maybe right, it maybe wrong but it works really
well for me. I'd be interested to hear the pro's and con's of whether
to do water changes from the more experienced in the group. TIA

In article <3418e564...@news2.ibm.net>, Jan Jordan
<JJs...@ibm.netZ> writes

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Jan Jordan

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Sep 10, 1997, 3:00:00 AM9/10/97

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This is my 2 cents on water changes:

The members of the koi club I belong to recommend water changes and
explained it this way: Imagine yourself in a small room with air
conditioning that doesn't EVER get fresh air. Oh and BTW, the bathroom
is in there too, no walls or fans to get rid of the smell and you eat
and live in that room. So over time........ Does that make sense? How
can plants really freshen the water? And plants don't take out heavy
metals, do they? So they are building up as the water evaporates and
more is added.

What I know is, when I do a water changes in the aquariums or ponds
everyone looks happier, but this could be my imagination. What fish
smiles? I'm sure a lot depends on your water quality, too. We're very
lucky with our water. Comes out of the Columbia River, goes thru
filters and is only purified with Chlorine Gas.

T. Postel

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Sep 12, 1997, 3:00:00 AM9/12/97

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joe sumner wrote:
>
> I'm new pond owner, and I have constructed a pond and placed sod around
> the pond
>
> When I do a water Change Will it damage the newly lade sod?
>
> joe

Your pond water will not hurt your new sod.
-m

Sunset zone 21 USDA zone 9
Married, wife, children... the whole catastrophe.
-- Alexis Zorba (Zorba the Greek By Nikos Kazantzakis)

Chuck Rush

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Sep 13, 1997, 3:00:00 AM9/13/97

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Look at it another way... You confined to the house in LA. Your office
is there, you get your food delivered. You have a great air
conditioner. It has a heavy-duty electrostatic air filter to strip out
all the pollutants and get it just like you like it. It took time to
clean it, but it eventually cleans the air. You're doing fine.

The only problem is that every couple of weeks, someone comes along and
opens all the windows and turns on an attic fan during 5 o'clock rush
hour then closes all the windows and goes away. You don't know when
this is going to happen. Some days it happens, it's not too bad. It's
Sunday and the Santa Anna winds are blowing 50 miles an hour. Other
days, there's an inversion and the city is warning everyone to stay
inside.

I don't know about you, but THAT would make me sick.

Another thing... You don't realize all the GOOD things you're getting
rid of. For instance, did you know it takes some dragonfly larve TWO
YEARS to develp into dragonflies?

rcm...@idir.net

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Sep 13, 1997, 3:00:00 AM9/13/97

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RE: The thing to think about is water evaporates, but all the salts,
heavy metals, etc. do not. Carried to extreams, your pond would
eventually not be water, but a solid mass of elements!
50 % Water change?
Once or twice a year should do it!
More often then that is just stressing your pond-life!

RC

fishhead

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Sep 14, 1997, 3:00:00 AM9/14/97

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Why would a water change get rid of Dragon fly larvae? If that worked I
would not have had thousands of the #$@%^&$ things eating my fry &
pollywogs. I think i will try Dimilin next summer to KILL them off!
Nothing GOOD about Dragon flies except they are attractive.
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Jan Jordan

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Sep 14, 1997, 3:00:00 AM9/14/97

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On Sat, 13 Sep 1997 19:05:51 -0500, Chuck Rush <cr...@dallas.net>
wrote:

>Another thing... You don't realize all the GOOD things you're getting
>rid of. For instance, did you know it takes some dragonfly larve TWO
>YEARS to develp into dragonflies?

Touche' Chuck ;-)

I'll stay in Washington, with the Columbia River to do my water
changes & fresh clean air, so I can open my windows for me. As in all
pond things, consider the source.... <G>

Jan Jordan

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Sep 14, 1997, 3:00:00 AM9/14/97

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On 14 Sep 1997 02:12:51 GMT, "fishhead" <fish...@fatfishhotcc.com>
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>Why would a water change get rid of Dragon fly larvae? If that worked I
>would not have had thousands of the #$@%^&$ things eating my fry &
>pollywogs. I think i will try Dimilin next summer to KILL them off!
>Nothing GOOD about Dragon flies except they are attractive.

You tell 'em Carol! <BEG>

RSWinkler

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Sep 14, 1997, 3:00:00 AM9/14/97

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You guys/gals are $%&^**%# Hilarious!!!! LMAO!!
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