Thanks
Gabe
Jerry
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Jeffrey
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Gabe Sachs wrote in message <365AE7EC...@ix.netcom.com>...
Wrong newsgroup. You're asking a question about "equipment" in a newsgroup
about "technique." You'd get a much better response asking this question in
rec.photo.equipment.35mm, rec.photo.equipment.mf, or rec.photo.equipment.lf
(or whatever they really are - reread the charter - uhm... you DID read the
charter, didn't you?).
Have a happy Thanksgiving!
- Arved
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Arved Grass Photography * Orange Park, FL * http://photo.onlineexpress.net
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I like 85 - 105 in 35 mm or in medium format 135 to 150 mm. These give me the
working space between me and the subject. I like 105mm the best......
John
I don't know any technique that isn't applied through equipment.
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steve vancosin --
"It is not events that disturb people. It is what they make of them."
I've read the charter and my understanding of it is that that is a valid
question in this group given its stated purpose. The poster didn't ask if
a Nikon lens is better than a Canon lens, just which "type" of lens is
best for PORTRAIT work. That, imho, obliges the question to this group.
Best,
Jerry
Best,
Jerry
> Hello. I'm new to this list but wanted to know what everyone felt was
> the best portrait lens...old or new that they have ever used. Let me
> know.
>
> Thanks
> Gabe
In 35mm, personally I like my 1,4/85 zeiss planar... absolutely wonderful
for low-light, the falloff is just right (maybe i would have wanted a
little more, but there's no getting any longer for the same aperture) and
it makes some nicely radiant images with the right lighting. this will get
a really beautiful perspective crop for a fairly tight head/neck picture.
i usually put on an additinoaly 7,5mm of extension.
in 4x5, i've been playing with a 150/5.6 sironar-N for
waist-head-environmentals, which isn't too bad, a 12" goerz apo-artar,
which isn't too shabby, either. i hear some people like the 10 and 12"
lenses in 4x5 and 8x10. i've been experimenting with an old old kodak
ektanon 10"/4.5 -- that'll be fun!
hth.
-jon
jrl at blast dot princeton dot edu
Jerry Hammond wrote:
> >
> >
> Please, do tell, what question would apply in your humble opinion?
>
> I've read the charter and my understanding of it is that that is a valid
> question in this group given its stated purpose. The poster didn't ask if
> a Nikon lens is better than a Canon lens, just which "type" of lens is
> best for PORTRAIT work.
no he did not ask that........he asked and i quote "wanted to know what everyone felt
wasthe best portrait lens.."
this is an equipment issue...now had he stated his intentions a little more clearly
it would be different..........
digitalphoto wrote in message <365CAFF1...@mindspring.com>...
>This is BS! This is a technique newsgroup and if the lens isn't a part of
>technique, I don't know what would be. You are too critical and have no
>idea what you're talking about. Since your reply didn't include any
>technical info, it didn't belong here either. What is this world coming to.
>Maybe I'll post my questions in some sort of auto repair newsgroups or
>something.
>
Don't let these guys get to you.. they are here for our amusement only... :)
Ron
Ron,
Tacoma, WA
Questions like "what equipment is best" are usually trolls for the Canon vs.
Nikon and Hasselblad vs. Mamiya wars. The "equipment" heiarchy is for "what"
questions. The "technique" heiarchy is for "how" questions. There are at
least a few of us who are fed up with the equipment discussions, and just
want to learn how to improve our craft.
From a phylosophical standpoint, what's equipment without technique? They are
entertwined. But here we DO make the distinction. If you want to know what
equipment to get, the equipment heiarchy is appropriate. If you want to know
how to use it, then you belong here.
If I haven't cleared this up for you, please feel free to e-mail me. I'd be
happy to send you a copy of the "Guide to the rec.photo Newsgroups" which
paraphrases the charter. I'm sure that between my explination here, and the
guide, there will be no question in your mind that the question "what's the
best lens" doesn't belong here.
And if you can't live with how rec.photo.technique.people is set up, either
ask for a charter change, or set up your own discussion forum. Deja News
allows you to make your own discussion groups the way you want them.
From the Charter:
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rec.photo.technique.people
This group is for postings related to the photography of people. This
includes portraits, figure studies, abstracts, nudes etc. It is not
intended for the discussion of equipment except as related to other
issues of technique. Suitable topics for posting would include
lighting, posing, models, releases, wedding photography etc.
Examples of appropriate question involving equipment might be:
* What's the best focal length for portrait photography?
* Do I really need to move to medium format for weddings?
* Are soft focus lenses/filters really useful?
Inappropriate equipment related questions would be:
* What's the best 85mm f1.8 lens?* Should I buy a Canon or Nikon system?
* Are Sigma lenses just as good as Zeiss lenses?
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The original post asked "what is the best portrait lens". In other words, what
is the best lens to use to photograph people. Since this group is about
photographing people, it seems to be an appropriate question.
I think its not the way the charter is set up that bothers him, its the way
punks like you want to interpret it that has his panties in a bunch....
>There are at least a few of us who are fed up with the equipment discussions
For less than $100, you too can get a keyboard with a
working DELETE key.
For even less, you can get a newsreader that will either:
-score articles based on authour, subject, etc. and even
autodelete low-scored articles.
-let you browse only Subject: lines, and skip stuff.
>And if you can't live with how rec.photo.technique.people is set up, either
>ask for a charter change, or set up your own discussion forum.
Alas, this is Usenet... I'd venture to say in any
unmoderated newsgroup, discussions will _always_ evolve to
include whatever peripherally interesting matter you can imagine
- charters be damned!
Of course, you won't be the first anal-retentive to try to
keep things on track. I hope they let you choose the pattern on
your padded wall-paper.
-Gord
Gordon Pritchard, VE7AGW
White Rock, B.C. Canada
gor...@infoserve.net
> From the Charter:
...
> Examples of appropriate question involving equipment might be:
> * What's the best focal length for portrait photography?
...
> Inappropriate equipment related questions would be:
> * What's the best 85mm f1.8 lens?
...
> The original post asked "what is the best portrait lens". In other words,
what
> is the best lens to use to photograph people. Since this group is about
> photographing people, it seems to be an appropriate question.
I think the way the question was worded, it was closer to the example of an
inappropriate question.
Regardless, we've beat this discussion to death IMHO. Thanks for posting the
appropriate portion of the charter - I think that will go a long way to help
most of us, at least in the short term.
Happy holidays,
I've only been following this forum for a short while, and sadly there's very
little "charter specific" traffic.
Moreno Polloni
The Nikon 105mm F2.5 combined with a Tiffen Soft FX 1 filter for men and FX 2
for women.