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Smitty...

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Dec 13, 2000, 6:59:31 AM12/13/00
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Does anyone have any experience selling stock photos to any of the agencies
that have web sites? Thanks.
--
Smitty..
On the f-f-f-frozen t-t-t-t tundra of central Minnesota

Paul Skelcher

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Dec 13, 2000, 9:10:26 AM12/13/00
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Smitty wrote ....

> Does anyone have any experience selling stock photos to any of the
agencies
> that have web sites? Thanks.

Smitty, check out www.mira.com and www.alamy.com two online stock
agencies.
Typically they require digital submissions, offer 70% commissions, instead
of usual 50%, and give the photographer control over licensing agreements
and fees.
You don't sell images to an agency, technically the agency works for you, to
advertise, and license (lease) rather than sell your work, of which you
retain ownership (copyright).
Paul


Gloria Hopkins

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Dec 14, 2000, 9:14:33 AM12/14/00
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Smitty: I asked that very question at naturephotographers.net also. I haven't
received any responses yet but you might want to check it out....

PBurian

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Dec 19, 2000, 8:43:22 AM12/19/00
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>
>Does anyone have any experience selling stock photos to any of the agencies
>that have web sites>>>

Agencies do not buy stock images. They represent the work of photographers.
Think of a stock agency as a lending library - but the books are owned by
photogs, not the library.

The bigger question is Will a stock agency be willing to represent your work,
and if so, will it market it aggressively? Or will the images languish in their
files?

You might want to read John Shaw's Business of Nature Photography book.

Peter Burian, Managing Editor
PhotoPoint.com Magazine
http://www.photopoint.com/community/magazine


Keith Clark

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Dec 19, 2000, 10:54:45 AM12/19/00
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PBurian wrote:

Keep in mind too, that nature images are virtually worthless these days. Everyone
likes taking nature pictures, has auto everything cameras, thinks they take good
pictures, and so many people are so desperate to see their name in lights (or in
print) that they're suckered into giving away work for free - in print, on the web,
in contests, whatever, so they'll be "noticed", or get "valuable links" (that less
than 1/10 of 1% ever click on, get real), meanwhile photo buyers are sneering at at
photographers, and prices just keep free-falling, because so few bother to take
basic business courses or do the research and use their heads when setting prices.

If you have a day job, keep it. Don't even think about making serious money in
nature photography unless you're a better salesperson than a photographer. And
wildlife photos - they're a dime a dozen at almost any arts/crafts fair... If you
want to make money at arts fairs, start selling Beanie Babies. That's where the
money is. Pathetic, isn't it?


Keith


Smitty...

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Dec 21, 2000, 12:12:11 AM12/21/00
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>
>If you have a day job, keep it. Don't even think about making serious money
in
>nature photography unless you're a better salesperson than a photographer.

Ain't needin serious money but I am definately better in sales than in
photography. I just need to make enough to finance my photo habit. Last year
I exposed about 500-600 frames and sold 6 pics to a magazine and sold one
big print at an art auction. Out of that batch of film I got maybe 25
keepers to put in a portfolio. If I could just double that next year I would
be happy. That way I may break even:)

Smitty.....
http://photos.yahoo.com/smittys_56401

Keith Clark

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Dec 21, 2000, 3:27:30 PM12/21/00
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Cool! Congrats! :>

Keith

CHIP5FALL

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Jan 2, 2001, 12:44:14 AM1/2/01
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Keith-->"If you want to make money at arts fairs, start selling Beanie Babies."

Actually, it has been $19.95 black metal windmills the past couple of years.
Henna tattoos and toe rings for the ladies.

Any photographers here going to be doing Fountain Hills in February?

Carl May

Alan Justice

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Jan 2, 2001, 11:32:50 AM1/2/01
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What's Fountain Hills? I believe you're in the Bay Area too, so it might be
local for me. Worth attending? On the Peninsula my favorite drunken art
festival is King's Mountain.

-Alan Justice

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Joanne Cohen

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Jan 2, 2001, 9:41:55 PM1/2/01
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> Keith-->"If you want to make money at arts fairs, start selling Beanie
Babies."
>

I disagree....although I know MUCH less than most of you, I have some nice
shots that I've made into note cards, as well as 5x7 and 8x10 enlargements,
and have sold many both matted and matted and framed. I did three fairs this
past Fall, before being sidelined with a ruptured disc and surgery - these
were less art fairs than craft fairs. While most of them were day-long
family affairs and craftsy stuff, I made several hundred dollars at each
one. None of them cost me more than $45.00 to set up for the day. And I had
fun, too!

(PS - I live west of Boston)

Jo


Greg Ferguson

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Jan 3, 2001, 12:49:44 AM1/3/01
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In article
<Son46.14122$7f3.1...@bgtnsc07-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>, "Alan
Justice" <a.ju...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:

Well, if we're talking about the same place...

Fountain Hills is a major development northeast of Phoenix that hosts a
big art show and traffic jam concurrently. :-)

It takes place on a huge lawn surrounding a big fountain and containing
pond filled with recyled water. It's usually great weather, especially
compared to the rest of the country in February.

http://search.yahoo.com/bin/search?p=%22fountain+hills%22+%2B+arizona

Greg Ferguson

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Jan 3, 2001, 12:57:13 AM1/3/01
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In article <gferguson-0579A...@news.earthlink.net>, Greg
Ferguson <gfer...@mac.com> wrote:

> Well, if we're talking about the same place...
>
> Fountain Hills is a major development northeast of Phoenix that hosts a
> big art show and traffic jam concurrently. :-)
>
> It takes place on a huge lawn surrounding a big fountain and containing
> pond filled with recyled water. It's usually great weather, especially
> compared to the rest of the country in February.
>
> http://search.yahoo.com/bin/search?p=%22fountain+hills%22+%2B+arizona

Here's the calendar for it...

http://www.fountainhillsonline.com/calendar.htm

Greg Ferguson

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Jan 3, 2001, 1:01:10 AM1/3/01
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In article <gferguson-C40D8...@news.earthlink.net>, Greg
Ferguson <gfer...@mac.com> wrote:

> Here's the calendar for it...
>
> http://www.fountainhillsonline.com/calendar.htm

Oops, that's the 2000 calendar. This year's will probably be around the
same dates though.

CHIP5FALL

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Jan 3, 2001, 1:32:22 AM1/3/01
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Greg-->"Fountain Hills is a major development northeast of Phoenix that hosts a

big art show and traffic jam concurrently. :-)"

That's the one. Feb. 23, 24, and 25 this year. A bit far for you to drive from
the Bay Area (about 750 miles), Alan, if you are not going to be showing there.
We'll be doing it for the first time--with her ceramic sculptures, not
photography--but I always like to see the work of show photographers not
familiar to me in the Bay Area. Most winter sun belt shows are in Florida--this
is one of the several highly rated ones in the Southwest.

So, is anyone here going to be showing at Fountain Hills?

Carl May

Glenn Zumwalt

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Jan 3, 2001, 7:19:45 PM1/3/01
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Just got back in to this group, so sorry if this is late. Most stock
photographers that I know shoot ten to twenty rolls a day when they are in
the field. 500 to 600 a year is not even it the stock league. Stock
photography is a numbers game: the more you shoot, the more you make.
Selling an occasional shot to a magazine is not the same as producing stock.

Glenn

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