Saturated or Vivid color primer
B.B. Bean
anyone give me a quick primer to the various saturated or vivid color
print films and their various strengths and characteristics?
Thanks,
BBB
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PLD
I'm not an expert, but since no one has responded to your post on the NG I
will reply. Agfacolor Ultra 50 is commonly said to be the most highly
saturated print film--the film that most closely replicates in prints, the
colors you get in slides with Velvia. I have never tried it, but I am
ordering a brick from B&H now.
So far as I can tell in roaming around on the various film sites, no other
print film even claims to be so highly saturated, although there are many
there are a notch down from that.
Good luck.
PLD
B.B. Bean wrote in message ...
PLD
As I continued reading down the NG I noted another thread called "Need
colour reversal "Velvia" film." Though, if I am correct, the questioner has
the lingo mixed up (Velvia *is* color reversal or slide film; the questioner
wants print film), the question is basically the same as yours. Check it
out.
PLD
As I continue reading down this NG, here's another thread with useful data
on the same question-- "Saturated Color Negative Films"
B.B. Bean
BBB
On Sat, 10 Apr 1999 10:12:43 -0400, PLD wrote:
>Hello, BBB
>
>I'm not an expert, but since no one has responded to your post on the NG I
>will reply. Agfacolor Ultra 50 is commonly said to be the most highly
>saturated print film--the film that most closely replicates in prints, the
>colors you get in slides with Velvia. I have never tried it, but I am
>ordering a brick from B&H now.
>
>So far as I can tell in roaming around on the various film sites, no other
>print film even claims to be so highly saturated, although there are many
>there are a notch down from that.
>
>Good luck.
>
Robert Krawitz
> Thanks,
>
> On Sat, 10 Apr 1999 10:12:43 -0400, PLD wrote:
>
> >Hello, BBB
> >
> >I'm not an expert, but since no one has responded to your post on the NG I
> >will reply. Agfacolor Ultra 50 is commonly said to be the most highly
> >saturated print film--the film that most closely replicates in prints, the
> >colors you get in slides with Velvia. I have never tried it, but I am
> >ordering a brick from B&H now.
I've used some Ultra 50, and I'm not all that thrilled by it. It's
quite grainy; less so than 400 speed film but it appears grainier than
Royal Gold 100. The colors are undeniably brilliant, but they "block
up" very easily. I took pictures of a pink rose with a white center
with both Royal Gold 100 and Ultra 50; the Royal Gold 100 accurately
shows the white center, while the Ultra 50 shows an undifferentiated
pink mass. Red seems to block up the worst, followed by green, and
blue doesn't seem to be as bad.
Ultra 50 works best, IMHO, for bringing out muted colors. For
example, last fall I shot a roll of it by a lake on a somewhat hazy
day after the foliage peak, and got colors that looked reasonably like
near-peak foliage on a crystal clear day. In fact, I'd go so far as
to say that it's at its best bringing out blue in the sky. But then
again, I do have some shots with Ultra 50 near peak that came out
reasonably well; it's only if you look closely at the foliage that the
lost detail becomes evident.
Velvia seemed to me to be easier to work with, and I've had no other
experience shooting slide film (just 2 rolls of Velvia).
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PLD
Thanks for relating your experience with Agfa Ultra 50. I will keep your
message and refer to it as I try the film.
PLD
Allan Engelhardt
> BBB --
>
> As I continued reading down the NG I noted another thread called "Need
> colour reversal "Velvia" film." Though, if I am correct, the questioner has
> the lingo mixed up (Velvia *is* color reversal or slide film; the questioner
> wants print film), the question is basically the same as yours. Check it
> out.
You are correct, I was tired when I wrote it :-( At least the body text was the right way around.
I'll put my tests of the Agfa Ultra film on the web as soon as I can get it processed (should be two weeks, but I'm having problems with my normal lab (Colab in the UK, in case you wonder) along with my comments.
Must get more sleep.
Allan.
B.B. Bean
underwhelmed with Portra VC, and like NPS 160 (A LOT), but would like
something with more punched up colors for the ocasional sunset,
flowers, etc.
BBB
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Allan Engelhardt
> Any ideas on a saturated film with an ASA of 100-400? I've been
> underwhelmed with Portra VC
A lot of processors used to have problems with this film. Nothing obviously wrong, it just looked like the NC or any other 160. I assume you are using a pro lab? Maybe check with them or try another lab for a roll.
But no, I have no other suggestions for colour print film. I shoot mostly chromes. The Kodak E100VC could be interesting for slides.
Allan.
LF
Fujicolor NPS 160 is a low saturation film developed for weddings, portraits
etc.
Kodak Pro 100 PRN (which I have used and like) is Kodak's version of a higher
saturation film, but it is no Ultra 50.
Fujicolor Super G Plus 400, 800 and 1600 all are said by Fuji to have brilliant
color saturation, but they are still a notch below Ultra 50.
PLD
In article <ooornaornapbggbap...@news1.i1.net>,
bbb...@beancotton.com says...
>
>Any ideas on a saturated film with an ASA of 100-400? I've been
Peter Madeley
from long...@hotmail.com (LF) contains these words:
> Fujicolor NPS 160 is a low saturation film developed for weddings, portraits
> etc.
What did you rate NPS at out of curiosity? I want to move from
Superia 200 'cos its too contrasty for portraits.
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Regards and phrantic fotography 2U
Peter (DPS Design & Photography Services)
LF
able to get this film yet. B&H stocks it but is out. I am a simple sort of
guy and I would rate the film 160 to start and take a look at the results. I
believe some guys on a Contax G2 list I'm on rate it at 200, though. What the
FujiFilm site says is that it has smooth pleasing skin tones, high sharpness,
fine grain; it's for weddings, portraits, and skin tones; superb natural
appearance and fine detail, even in highlights and shadows; wide exposure
latitude.
I also am going to try Agfacolor Portrait XPS 160 which Agfa says is
restrained, gives exceptional portraits, superb skin tone reproduction, optimum
contrast range; achieves pastel-like effects; suppresses strong colors and
contrasts.
Good luck
LF