Hasselblad Camera for sale
Dennis Smith
CF lens, A12 film magazine back, PM Prism Finder,and assorted other
equipment, at a very reasonable price. Anyone interested?
David Holliday
David
Q.G. de Bakker
> I am interested in selling [...]
Dennis, we got the message the first time round, and it wasn't welcome then
either.
Please note that this is not the appropriate NG to post for sales ads.
Please do have the courtesy to find out such things before (!) you post what
now is just another piece of SPAM.
Dennis Smith
Thanks for the reply,
Dennis
"David" <Hollid...@Aol.com> wrote in message
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Idolize55
Oh stop it, Qnu. If I was interested in buying a camera, or anything else for
that matter, I'd check the newsgroups first. I'd rather go here than to eBay,
where I've gotten ripped off more than once. At least on the newsgroups you can
get the seller's phone number, etc. I don't know what you're complaining about,
since it seems as though there are a few people here that are interested in
Dennis' offer.
Q.G. de Bakker
> I [...]
>
> Thanks for the reply,
> Dennis
Dennis,
Very courteous of you to express your gratitude, yet you do appear not to
have the good manners to acknowledge that this still is in violation of NG
rules.
Would you please conduct your business in private mail, or go to the
appropriate marketplace group?
Q.G. de Bakker
> Oh stop it, Qnu. If I was interested in buying a camera, or anything else
for
> that matter, I'd check the newsgroups first. I'd rather go here than to
eBay,
> where I've gotten ripped off more than once. At least on the newsgroups
you can
> get the seller's phone number, etc. I don't know what you're complaining
about,
> since it seems as though there are a few people here that are interested
in
> Dennis' offer.
Which raises the question how intelligent people manage to find the
newsgroups they are interested in, but fail to notice the rules and the
marketplace groups. Makes you think: ignorance, or ...?
There are plenty marketplace newsgroup to conduct trade, buying and selling.
In this (and many other) NG this is not permitted.
Go and have a look in the marketplace groups, and you will understand why.
Charles
Before I bought my first MF camera I would lurk here. Being told of MF
camera equipment for sale in this group is not spam - It is a worthwhile
service as I bought my camera from one of the posters.
The fact that the subject line clearly states what the message is about, I
can't see how it can be classed as spam.
Just change the rules.
"Q.G. de Bakker" <q...@worldonline.nl> wrote in message
news:apn09u$k5r$1...@reader1.tiscali.nl...
Victor Bazarov
> Why the FS rule?
Why rules at all?
> [...]
> Just change the rules.
Why not follow them? What's easier?
Idolize55
in this newsgroup. If ALL the NG rules were followed, I could find all its
information easily in a magazine or newspaper, and these newsgroups would be a
complete waste of web space. Most of the people on here already have access to
Mamiya, Bronica, Hasselblad, Pentax, Contax, Rollei and Fuji hand-outs/flyers
and magazines. Think about it.
Stacey
>I kind of like the fact that people are posting that they have things for sale
>in this newsgroup.
OK, how about if all the "for sales" were posted here, like the 35mm
stuff too, someone might be interested and not want to bother looking
in the maketplace gorups. Maybe the large format stuff as well as
digital? Why have the newsgroups separated at all? Just make one photo
group and sort through all of it to find what you're interested in!
The -RULES- were changed to make new marketplace groups because years
ago you had to search through HUNDREDS of posts to find any
information. It's not that complex to read the market place groups for
buying and the equipment groups for information is it? Are people THAT
lazy they can't click on another groups name to read what interests
them?
Stacey
Idolize55
>stuff too, someone might be interested and not want to bother looking
>in the maketplace gorups. Maybe the large format stuff as well as
>digital?
But he didn't POST a 35mm camera or even a digital camera for sale. It was a
medium format camera. I've seen people posting camera related questions in the
marketplace group. Someone better go yell at them too.
Q.G. de Bakker
> >OK, how about if all the "for sales" were posted here, like the 35mm
> >stuff too, someone might be interested and not want to bother looking
> >in the maketplace gorups. Maybe the large format stuff as well as
> >digital?
>
> But he didn't POST a 35mm camera or even a digital camera for sale. It was
a
> medium format camera.
And that changes things how?
> I've seen people posting camera related questions in the
> marketplace group. Someone better go yell at them too.
That is entirely upto the people frequenting the marketplace groups, isn't
it?
One not very surprising aspect of these unwanted for sale ads is that 99% of
them are posted by individuals never heard of before (or ever after) in this
newsgroup. Their only use of the newsgroup is abuse. As in this instance.
This group (at least) is a discussion forum, not a notice board.
Q.G. de Bakker
> Wow, lighten up. He obviously didn't realize that.
Obvious? He probably did.
Idolize55
go against the "rules" of the newsgroups, it's also pointless to express
opinions that obviously no one cares about.
Q.G. de Bakker
"No one cares about"... That's good coming from the same person who wrote "I
don't know what you're complaining about,
since it seems as though there are a few people here that are interested in
Dennis' offer." You noticed that, but...?
Brian Ellis
newsgroup and "for sale" messages are prohibited by the group's charter.
That's why groups such as rec.photo.marketplace.medium-format were created -
to give people
who wish to sell through a newsgroup dedicated to the type of equipment they
want to sell a place to go. This isn't that place.
It isn't a question of what you want or what you would like to do, it's a
question of following the rules of the group in which you're participating.
The reason for the rule is that when spam is permitted in discussion groups,
they tend to cease being discussion groups and instead become commercial
groups, which ends much of the discussion. At that point the people
interested in discussing get out because they get tired of the commercials,
the sellers stay in but by that time there are no buyers, only sellers, so
the sellers also get out and the group disappears. So the rule works to the
benefit of everybody, sellers go to commercial groups, people who want
discussion go to the discussion groups.
"Idolize55" <idol...@aol.com> wrote in message
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Alec Jones
"Charles" <C...@velociy-data.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Just change the rules.
Ah, spoken like a good Democrat!!!!!
David J. Littleboy
An unlike a Republican, who would simply ignore the rules.
David J. Littleboy
Tokyo, Japan
Alec Jones
stephen....@nokia.com
"Douglas A." wrote:
>
> On Thu, 31 Oct 2002 01:25:38 +0900, "David J. Littleboy"
> <dav...@gol.com> wrote:
>
> >An unlike a Republican, who would simply ignore the rules.
>
> Or a Libertarian who would say "Who needs rules" :)
Q.G. de Bakker
> >An unlike a Republican, who would simply ignore the rules.
>
>
> Or a Libertarian who would say "Who needs rules" :)
So, in effect, there is no difference between a Republican and a
Libertarian?
;-)
David J. Littleboy
"Douglas A." <fordpr...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 30 Oct 2002 19:50:49 +0100, "Q.G. de Bakker"
>
> >So, in effect, there is no difference between a Republican and a
> >Libertarian?
>
No no, Libertarians are close first cousins to Republicans: the "liberty" in
Libertarian refers to their belief that the rich and powerful should have
the liberty to screw the poor and powerless.
Tom
"David J. Littleboy" <dav...@gol.com> wrote in message
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Damn, I didn't know the Kennedy clan were Republicans... wow. Learn
something new every day.
Tom
Brian Ellis
poor and powerful - and the rich and powerless - and the rich and powerful.
"David J. Littleboy" <dav...@gol.com> wrote in message
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>
Idolize55
personalized lessons in government.
Idolize55
>don't know what you're complaining about,
>since it seems as though there are a few people here that are interested in
>Dennis' offer." You noticed that, but...?
"But...."....what? Don't leaving me hanging. Yes, I noticed people were
interested in the offer.
Q.G. de Bakker
> "But...."....what? Don't leaving me hanging. Yes, I noticed people were
> interested in the offer.
I know.
What you apparently haven't noticed (haven't you really?) is people caring
about not seeing such offers in this particular newsgroup.
Now how's that possible?
Idolize55
>about not seeing such offers in this particular newsgroup.
>Now how's that possible?
Well, I've noticed that too. But you have to go back to Business 101: Whenever
there's a market for something, no matter how big or small, there will and
should always be a provider for it. True, I absolutely hated the Beanie Baby
craze, but they kept selling them.
Idolize55
It wasn't the fact that you told him to put his message on the Marketplace NG,
it was the fact that you did it in a fairly rude manner. I mean, the guy
probably didn't know about the Marketplace NG. I know I didn't.
Q.G. de Bakker
> It wasn't the fact that you told him to put his message on the Marketplace
NG,
> it was the fact that you did it in a fairly rude manner. I mean, the guy
> probably didn't know about the Marketplace NG. I know I didn't.
Which takes us back to "Which raises the question how intelligent people
Q.G. de Bakker
> Well, I've noticed that too.
Hence your "no one cares about" comment. And you want to talk about being
rude? ;-)
> But you have to go back to Business 101:
But how about "Being Polite in 5 Easy Lessons"? (as a suggestion to mr.
Smith. Primarily...)
> Whenever
> there's a market for something, no matter how big or small, there will and
> should always be a provider for it. True, I absolutely hated the Beanie
Baby
> craze, but they kept selling them.
Very...uhm... interesting?
Remember the topic? You are objecting to me objecting to unwanted ads? Good!
Your treatise above explains it is o.k. to post FS ads in this group, ...
how exactly?
John
True. And in my opinion you might consider re-reading the charters for
these groups.
Regards,
John S. Douglas - Photographer, Webmaster & Computer Tech
Website --- http://www.darkroompro.com
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John
wrote:
>> > Just change the rules.
>>
>> Ah, spoken like a good Democrat!!!!!
>
>An unlike a Republican, who would simply ignore the rules.
LOL ! It amazes me why anyone would think there's an ounce of difference
between the 2. Just a smoke-&-mirrors tag team IMO.
Regards
John S. Douglas, Photographer
http://www.darkroompro.com
Victor Bazarov
> On Thu, 31 Oct 2002 10:24:05 +0100, "Q.G. de Bakker"
> <q...@worldonline.nl> wrote:
> >[...]
> Wow, you really just love to argue. [...]
And you don't, is that what you'd like us to believe?
Victor Bazarov
> On Thu, 31 Oct 2002 11:13:23 -0500, "Victor Bazarov"
> <vAba...@dAnai.com> wrote:
>
>
> >And you don't, is that what you'd like us to believe?
>
>
> only presenting my opinion. I think it was handled in a rude manner.
> If you disagree, then thats ok. Besides, if you're going to judge me
> as well, I think what you're doing is no less than what I did. :)
I am going to judge you (just to do no less). I believe (and as
you said, I am free to do so) that your note was hypocritical.
That's all. Of course, that's just my opinion. And I am only
presenting it. And since I am not posting on topic, I have marked
my posting as OT. Believe it or not.
Q.G. de Bakker
> Wow, you really just love to argue. You didn' have to be rude to him.
> You could have politely told him he was posting in the wrong group. I
> think that is actually the bottom line.
Haven't i?
Idolize55
>Remember the topic? You are objecting to me objecting to unwanted ads? Good!
>Your treatise above explains it is o.k. to post FS ads in this group, ...
>how exactly?
Qnu, how old are you? You're trying to get an uprise out of me and you're
simply showing how annoying you can be. I rarely get mad at anything, and I
refuse to waste any of my energy on the likes of you. Sorry.
Idolize55
>Which takes us back to "Which raises the question how intelligent people
>manage to find the newsgroups they are interested in, but fail to notice the
>rules and the marketplace groups. Makes you think: ignorance, or ...?
A: That "takes us back to" nothing. Maybe it takes YOU back, but not me. Sorry.
You just proved my threory right yet again by suggesting that some people
aren't smart enough to use the newsgroups.
B: Please don't end sentences/posts with "....?" It forces the rest of us to
guess what you're thinking. It also shows that you don't know how to say what's
on your mind, so you MAY want to think about who's telling people they're not
intelligent enough to use the NG's.
If I'm being rude, I apologize to the rest of the NG users. It seems as though
rudeness is the only way Qnu knows how to comunicate. I just thought I'd
oblige.
Q.G. de Bakker
> A: That "takes us back to" nothing. Maybe it takes YOU back, but not me.
It "took" you back from "This'll be my last comment on this topic."
> Sorry.
> You just proved my threory right yet again by suggesting that some people
> aren't smart enough to use the newsgroups.
I didn't. I suggested that people that are smart enough to use the
newsgroups must be smart enough to willingly and knowingly abuse the
newsgroups.
Now which one of your no doubt many theories would that proof?
> B: Please don't end sentences/posts with "....?" It forces the rest of us
to
> guess what you're thinking. It also shows that you don't know how to say
what's
> on your mind, so you MAY want to think about who's telling people they're
not
> intelligent enough to use the NG's.
Well, well, well. It shows one thing very clear: you have trouble
understanding the obvious. Now don't be rude again (like when you said "no
one cares about" when it was only you who didn't) and suppose that that is
true for everybody else.
> If I'm being rude, I apologize to the rest of the NG users. It seems as
though
> rudeness is the only way Qnu knows how to comunicate. I just thought I'd
> oblige.
Good for you.
Q.G. de Bakker
> Qnu, how old are you? You're trying to get an uprise out of me and you're
> simply showing how annoying you can be. I rarely get mad at anything, and
I
> refuse to waste any of my energy on the likes of you. Sorry.
Dear, dear... I'm "trying to get an uprise out of" you... I wouldn't dream
of it.
Why do you get your knickers in a twist because people don't agree with your
view that ignoring the rules of this NG is acceptable?
Alec Jones
"Douglas A." <fordpr...@hotmail.com> wrote in message >
>
> Ok, I really don't want to get mixed up in this, but ...
Now can't this silly argument end?
>
Typical childish attitude. Let me have my say, then "let's don't argue
anymore". In other words, "why don't you just let ME get the last word".
That's what YOU sound like!
Alec Jones
"This'll be my last comment on this topic".
Why don't you listen to yourself? That was the BEST thing you've said so
far.
Dennis Smith
Fred R.
>Typical childish attitude. Let me have my say, then "let's don't argue
>anymore". In other words, "why don't you just let ME get the last word".
>That's what YOU sound like!
Shut the hell up you fucking moron. YOU have a lot of fucking room to
tallk. What an idiot! LOL
Alec Jones
point.
"Fred R." <fredd...@hotmail.con> wrote in message
news:3dc1cbcf$1...@reseller.nntpserver.com...
Fred R.
<alec...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>Ah, the intelligentsia have arrived on the scene. Thanks for making my
>point.
Stupid ass. Not only did you make no point, you have none. People like
you who step in and flame someone who is just trying to help should
have their little geek asses bitch slapped.
Fred R.
<alec...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>Ah, the intelligentsia have arrived on the scene. Thanks for making my
>point.
What a total asswipe. The only point you made was showing the world
what a fucking waste of DNA you are.
Idolize55
>understanding the obvious. Now don't be rude again (like when you said "no
>one cares about" when it was only you who didn't) and suppose that that is
>true for everybody else.
That's where YOU misunderstood what I said. When I said that "no one cares
about..." statement, I wasn't referring to YOUR thoughts. I was referring to
how people don't care about mine.
news.compuserve.com
> It isn't really. And perhaps no less offensive than self appointed
> moderators.
Amen