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Nicholas O. Lindan

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Apr 19, 2007, 2:32:36 PM4/19/07
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Richard Knoppow

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Apr 23, 2007, 6:05:56 AM4/23/07
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"Nicholas O. Lindan" <s...@sig.com> wrote in message
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Nick, how do you come across this stuff? With regard to
the 3x4 Speed Graphic, all I can say is Yikes! This is
really a misrepresentation. The size is completely orphaned.
For a couple of decades at least Graflex, and its
predecessor company, tried to get press photographers to
switch to this size from 4x5. It never caught on even though
the cameras were significantly smaller and lighter.
It is a bit shocking to me that things I remember
lusting after when they were new are now "antiques".
Your antique friend (practically a dinosaur)...


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Scott Schuckert

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Apr 23, 2007, 8:13:11 AM4/23/07
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Sometimes I see stuff on eBay that clearly has no chance of selling.
One company seems to offer computer networking components at 3 to 5
times the going price, and it very, very rarely gets bids. Yet they
keep listing it.

Why? Are they hoping for a windfall, like a customer that just HAS to
have that particular item (and assume they'll make up for all the other
listing fees)? Or are they trying to "establish a price" for some
reason? I don't get it.

Mike M

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Apr 23, 2007, 9:31:45 AM4/23/07
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I listed a 7-year old Dell server on eBay. Cost $2000 when brand
new, but worth pretty much nothing today. Starting bid of $50. I was
expecting maybe to get $100 for it. For kicks, I put a Buy-It-Now price of
$475. Sure enough, someone bought it for $475 and then paid $250 to have
it FedExed overnight!! Turns out they had an identical system that
failed. Dell no longer offered parts and they really wanted to bring the
old system back-to-life in order to continue operating until they could
upgrade.

darkroommike

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Apr 23, 2007, 5:49:41 PM4/23/07
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I actually saw the all metal crown graphic on another
website when Google-ing around for parts for my Graphic
View, it was actually used by some photographer at some time
and isn't "just" a piece of found art.

darkroommike

murrayatuptowngallery

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Apr 24, 2007, 10:11:49 AM4/24/07
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Some of the LF lens descriptions on eBay are just despicable right
now.

I saw a Fluoro Ektar the other day, about 111 mm, claiming since the
only xrays negs seller has seen are about11x14 it should cover that.

B.R.A.N. ? (brown ring around neck)

Murray

rshe...@nospam.appl-ecosys.com

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Apr 24, 2007, 12:53:30 PM4/24/07
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On 2007-04-24, murrayatuptowngallery <murrayatup...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

> Some of the LF lens descriptions on eBay are just despicable right
> now.

And some are actually 35mm or medium format lenses, but the seller knows
nothing about photography and lists them in the improper category.

Rich

David Nebenzahl

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Apr 24, 2007, 1:54:13 PM4/24/07
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rshe...@nospam.appl-ecosys.com spake thus:

That's why the good sellers there are so refreshing. My favorite is
"dagor77", the name stemming from his practice of starting all auctions
at 77 cents. His descriptions of his wares are delightful (and he has
really good stuff to sell).

Strangely enough, eBay shows him currently with no items for sale:
http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQfgtpZ1QQfrppZ25QQsassZdagor77, even though
his feedback shows plenty of current transactions. Dunno what's up with
that.


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Bogdan Karasek

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Apr 24, 2007, 2:10:21 PM4/24/07
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Richard Knoppow wrote:

Lust no more; sheet film is still available for the 3x4. Efke
(Adox)film is available through Fotoimpex
<http://www.fotoimpex.de/anglicus/index.html> in Germany. J and C Photo
<http://www.jandcphoto.com/JandC/update.htm> carried it in the US but
right now they are shut down and in the process of moving to Las Vegas.

I have 5 of them, 1 Speed, 2 Crown and 2 SLRs. Use them all the time.
And they are lighter and smaller, well worth the slightly smaller neg.

Cheers,
Bogdan
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>

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Canada www.bogdanphoto.com

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Apr 24, 2007, 7:55:33 PM4/24/07
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On 2007-04-24, Bogdan Karasek <bkar...@videotron.ca> wrote:

> Lust no more; sheet film is still available for the 3x4. Efke

For those who care, J and C Photo also sells Efke/Adox/JandC Classic sheet
film in 2-1/4"x3-1/4", too. I use that with my Crown Graphic and Galvin. And
I bought 5 boxes of HP5+ in that size just before Ilford stopped producing
it. So I've enough sheet and roll film to last a while.

As an aside, there is enough size difference between the English unit
cut sheet film (2-1/4x3-1/4") and the 6x9cm images on a roll of 120 film
that two different size negative holders are required. The roll film is
about 5mm wider than the sheet film, and the latter falls through the
carrier for the former size.

Rich

Nicholas O. Lindan

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Apr 25, 2007, 4:18:34 PM4/25/07
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"darkroommike" <darkro...@cableone.net> wrote

> Richard Knoppow wrote:
> > "Nicholas O. Lindan" <s...@sig.com> wrote in message
> I actually saw the all metal crown graphic on another website when
> Google-ing around for parts for my Graphic View, it was actually used by
> some photographer at some time and isn't "just" a piece of found art.

It's a piece of 'found art' now: the seller is an art & antiques
gallery.

As art it is worth far more than it ever was as "just" a camera.
As a working camera it's a disaster. I'm sure someone loved it --
one can find someone to love anything; The gallery is
sure hoping so.

The original questions was "outsider art" - not "found art":
was it made to be art?

One needs to discriminate found art, found object art,
art to be found, outsider art and bad art.

found art: the seminal Duchamp's urinal (ooooh, _very_ bad pun)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/low/entertainment/4059997.stm
Photography is a form of found art where the artist
takes a mechanical visual reproduction of the found
object and not the object itself.

found object art: arraigned collections, weldments, collage..
http://arts.ucsc.edu/sesnon/exhibitions/sanditamny/07.ingodwetrust.html

art to be found: only since the 60's, might have been the drugs
http://www.found-art.com/index.php

outsider art: the more decrepit the artist the more valuable the work;
often judged by psychiatrists rather than art critics. Many
variations
http://www.artbrut.com/

bad art: what more can one say...
http://www.museumofbadart.org/

murrayatuptowngallery

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Apr 26, 2007, 12:33:14 AM4/26/07
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1) DAGOR77: Jim is traveling at the end of April per earlier auctions
in the month. Another seller, maybe Dr. Tooth? actually admitted to
emulating DAGOR77's writing style, but while he has some nice items,
he lacks the same panache...maybe with time .

2) J&C: I haven't verified in the last month, but J&C closed due to
"circumstances beyond their control" and relocating to Las Vegas or
elsewhere in Nevada. They estimated they will be open in September.
Meanwhile, I found that Digital Truth is now selling some of the same
sheet film products J&C were (minus the J&C labeled products).

Murray

Michael Benveniste

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Apr 26, 2007, 9:21:46 AM4/26/07
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On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 20:18:34 GMT, "Nicholas O. Lindan" <s...@sig.com>
wrote:

>It's a piece of 'found art' now: the seller is an art & antiques
>gallery.

My wife didn't count my rosewood Wista 45DX against my "camera quota,"
since it's normally on display as an object d'art. The 4 lenses took
a little more explaining...

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Nicholas O. Lindan

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Apr 26, 2007, 9:23:42 AM4/26/07
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"Michael Benveniste" <mhb-...@clearether.com> wrote

> My wife didn't count my rosewood Wista 45DX against my "camera quota,"
> since it's normally on display as an object d'art. The 4 lenses took
> a little more explaining...

Will Grimes remount an Apo-Sironar in a filigreed brass barrel?

Michael Benveniste

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Apr 29, 2007, 10:53:03 AM4/29/07
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On Thu, 26 Apr 2007 13:23:42 GMT, "Nicholas O. Lindan" <s...@sig.com>
wrote:

>Will Grimes remount an Apo-Sironar in a filigreed brass barrel?

If they won't, I can recommend someone who will, but it's not that
hard to find a near-antique display lens. It's on my "to do" list,
just behind doing some silver polishing.

Nicholas O. Lindan

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Apr 29, 2007, 2:24:10 PM4/29/07
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"Michael Benveniste" <mhb-...@clearether.com> wrote.

> On Thu, 26 Apr 2007 13:23:42 GMT, "Nicholas O. Lindan" <s...@sig.com>
> wrote:
> >Will Grimes remount an Apo-Sironar in a filigreed brass barrel?

> ... it's not that hard to find a near-antique display lens ...

The objective was to mount a new objective in the mount for an
old brass objective to overcome the objections of the
Current Significant Other by claiming the resulting object
to be an objet d'art for the decoration of the house.

Until the CSO knocks out the Apo glass and converts the barrel
to a flower vase.

Michael Benveniste

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Apr 29, 2007, 7:16:28 PM4/29/07
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"Nicholas O. Lindan" <s...@sig.com> wrote:

> The objective was to mount a new objective in the mount for an
> old brass objective to overcome the objections of the
> Current Significant Other by claiming the resulting object
> to be an objet d'art for the decoration of the house.

So rather than lose the advantage of a modern shutter, have one
lens for display and one (or more) for shooting. It's a _lot_
easier to hide a lens than a 4x5 (or 8x10") camera.

Here's a shot of mine with the 180mm Nikkor mounted on the
wooden lens board:

http://www.nikonians.org/dcforum/User_files/438bcf1b48aea209.jpg

Nicholas O. Lindan

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Apr 29, 2007, 9:24:21 PM4/29/07
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Darkroom Automation: F-Stop Timers, Enlarging Meters
http://www.darkroomautomation.com/index.htm
n o lindan at ix dot netcom dot com

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Nicholas O. Lindan

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May 10, 2007, 6:29:02 PM5/10/07
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> More ebay wonders:

So, what did they go for? Is human stupidity truly infinite?

Homemade sheetmetal covered Graphic camera of some sort: $600
> http://cgi.liveauctions.ebay.com/20-Vintage-Crown-Pacemaker-Speed-Graphics-Camera_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ28221QQihZ015QQitemZ250106003320QQrdZ1

Or the extremely rare and in high demand 3 1/4 x 4 1/4 Speed Graphic: $600
> http://cgi.liveauctions.ebay.com/13-Vintage-Graflex-Pacemaker-Speed-Graphic-Camera_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ28221QQihZ015QQitemZ250106003246QQrdZ1

Will the Polaroid 80 reach it's $500 estimate: Topped out at $50
> http://cgi.liveauctions.ebay.com/291-Polaroid-Land-Camera-Highlander-Model-80-Box_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ28221QQihZ015QQitemZ250106005003QQrdZ1


Used $10 used nylon cable tie strapping gun, gun is c. 1985 in Dennison
catalog: $200
> http://cgi.liveauctions.ebay.com/292-Streamlined-Modern-Ray-Gun-Shaped-Pliers-c1930s_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ28221QQihZ015QQitemZ250106005010QQrdZ1

Infinite, truly infinite.

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