Large format digital inkjet printing on canvas and artist oils directly onto canvas
wades...@aol.com
A company in southern California, Triton Digital Imaging, has equipment
for sale that produces high quality images via inkjet directly onto canvas
and 25 to thirty other materials. TDI also has a one of a kind system that
will actually take scanned images and print them, in artist oils directly
onto canvas. No one in the world has this technology.
Thomas Ryan
> I was curious about price, availability, etc. and found
> http://www.hm.com/century/lfp.html
>
> It seems to be about $17,000 plus materials.
>
> wades...@aol.com wrote in article
> <19961209160...@ladder01.news.aol.com>...
Thats about right. List for the 50" machine is $17,000 if I remember
correctly, and thats without a RIP.
As for no one else having this technology, thats a total joke. Artists
oils will _not_ run through an inkjet. There are only a couple of ink
options for inkjets of this size, some of which look better than a
painting on canvas, but none that will allow artist oils to run. Think
about this for a second before anyone argues against this statement.
Inkjets print colors by mixing cyan, magenta, yellow and black inks to
make multiple colors. In order to run artists oils, you would have to
have multiple print heads or just one print head and a way of resetting
the material perfectly. Not happening!
Tom
Barry MacKichan
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Thomas Ryan (tj...@interaccess.com) wrote:
: Thats about right. List for the 50" machine is $17,000 if I remember
: correctly, and thats without a RIP.
:
: As for no one else having this technology, thats a total joke. Artists
: oils will _not_ run through an inkjet. There are only a couple of ink
: options for inkjets of this size, some of which look better than a
: painting on canvas, but none that will allow artist oils to run. Think
: about this for a second before anyone argues against this statement.
: Inkjets print colors by mixing cyan, magenta, yellow and black inks to
: make multiple colors. In order to run artists oils, you would have to
: have multiple print heads or just one print head and a way of resetting
: the material perfectly. Not happening!
Ignoring the viscosity issues between artist's oils and standard ink jet
inks, by carefully selecting CMYK artist's oils I don't think the colour
issue is much of a problem. This comes down to the definition of "artist's
oils", what pigments are used in the oil or ink, what the binder is, and
what volatile carriers are used. The range from ink to oil paint can
get quite blurred.
I'd guess that they are stretching the definition of "artist's oils".
Sandor
Jack Campin
tj...@interaccess.com (Thomas Ryan) writes:
> List for the 50" machine is $17,000 if I remember correctly, and thats
> without a RIP.
> As for no one else having this technology, thats a total joke. Artists
> oils will _not_ run through an inkjet. [...]
That has to depend on the size of the jet, does it not?
This reminds me of something I saw a picture of in a computer magazine
a few years ago. It was a sort of inkjet printer made by a Dutch firm;
the thing took paper 10 METRES wide, running round a roller over 2 metres
across. I presume it was intended for printing advertising billboards,
or maybe life-size computer-generated drawings for shipbuilders.
Now think; all you'd need to control this thing would be a comms link to a
remote slit-scan panoramic camera with a CCD. Panoramic format ten metres
on the *narrow* side. I give up, where's the Minox newsgroup?...
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Bruce Barrett
Hi,
Custom Color Lab in Palo Alto, Calif. (415)494-7761 has a digital photographic
"press" that outputs 50" wide by some very long roll length (100 feet?).
I think it's about $9-$10 a square foot. Takes digital files as input.
I haven't tried it yet but I hope to soon.
--Bruce
In article <21...@purr.demon.co.uk>, ja...@purr.demon.co.uk (Jack Campin) wrote:
> tj...@interaccess.com (Thomas Ryan) writes:
> > List for the 50" machine is $17,000 if I remember correctly, and thats
> > without a RIP.
> > As for no one else having this technology, thats a total joke. Artists
> > oils will _not_ run through an inkjet. [...]
>
> That has to depend on the size of the jet, does it not?
>
> This reminds me of something I saw a picture of in a computer magazine
> a few years ago. It was a sort of inkjet printer made by a Dutch firm;
> the thing took paper 10 METRES wide, running round a roller over 2 metres
> across. I presume it was intended for printing advertising billboards,
> or maybe life-size computer-generated drawings for shipbuilders.
>
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Thomas Ryan
> Ignoring the viscosity issues between artist's oils and standard ink jet
> inks, by carefully selecting CMYK artist's oils I don't think the colour
> issue is much of a problem. This comes down to the definition of "artist's
> oils", what pigments are used in the oil or ink, what the binder is, and
> what volatile carriers are used. The range from ink to oil paint can
> get quite blurred.
>
> I'd guess that they are stretching the definition of "artist's oils".
>
> Sandor
Actually, if you take the comment about "carefully" selecting, it might,
theoretically, be possible. But, consider that companies have been trying
to develop pigment based inks for a long time and are just now
succeeding. The reason is that the pigment particles will not fire
through an ink jet. That, and I know someone who produces inks. The
likelyhood that artists inks exist in the exact C, M, Y and K pigments
necessary are highly unlikely. Magenta is the worst. Ive seen changes of
less than 1% in the composition of the magenta ink that totally throws the
colors off.
Tom
Emo99
most comercial labs print up to 80" x106" on one sheet of material and
some customers want prints larger than that at that point you go into
panel jobs. that is conventional the newest technology would be going to
the lightjet unit direct from a computer file to a 50x50 color print near
photo quality
emo
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