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SI Committee

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Jul 5, 2012, 5:38:50 PM7/5/12
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As it turns out one of our shooters has been quietly geotagging some of
his SI photos for quite some time. With that, the inauguration of the
Shootin Geo Tag page has retroactively begun.

http://www.panoramio.com/user/7024030


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Submit photos to: shootinphotos AHT gmail DAHT com

Me

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Jul 5, 2012, 5:57:57 PM7/5/12
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On 6/07/2012 9:38 a.m., SI Committee wrote:
>
> As it turns out one of our shooters has been quietly geotagging some of
> his SI photos for quite some time. With that, the inauguration of the
> Shootin Geo Tag page has retroactively begun.
>
> http://www.panoramio.com/user/7024030
>
>
Maybe you could create a "group" in Panoramio for SI, perhaps making
collation of submitted photos more simple.
There is a "games and competitions" group category for this purpose.


Savageduck

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Jul 5, 2012, 6:51:10 PM7/5/12
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On 2012-07-05 14:38:50 -0700, SI Committee
<shooti...@StopThatMan-gmail.com> said:

>
> As it turns out one of our shooters has been quietly geotagging some of
> his SI photos for quite some time. With that, the inauguration of the
> Shootin Geo Tag page has retroactively begun.
>
> http://www.panoramio.com/user/7024030

It seems that there were at least another 25 of my SI submissions which
I had tagged when submitted, but were missed by overburdened SI
Committees, past and current. Some show as tagged in thier respective
Mandates, others not.

Check your Skype for a GDrive link to those files, as submitted. The
Committee can decide how best to make use of them.

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Regards,

Savageduck

SI Committee

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Jul 5, 2012, 9:15:20 PM7/5/12
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The committee did notice that and will make a deeper review soon.

But the notion of the SI / geotagging (to us) is just additional
interesting information.

The SI chairman also has the problem that some of the photos he put in
the SI are already in Panoramio under his secret identity - so it will
result in the same photo showing twice. We'll probably remove the
chairman's SI versions after a bit.

SI Committee

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Jul 5, 2012, 9:18:42 PM7/5/12
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There are many there that would not pass the Panoramio criteria for
posting there. They would show in the collection but would not get
mapped to Google Maps/Earth.

That's not that important for our purposes, but we'd suggest material
that is not "geographically" related not be posted there. Like your
C-47 shot, for example - not to mention your various car emblems/badges,
etc.

The SI chairman just swam 3 km and is not much into going through that
set right now. He also has a riotous orgy planned for Saturday. Maybe
Sunday - his head won't be of much use for anything else anyway.

SI Committee

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Jul 5, 2012, 9:22:33 PM7/5/12
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On 2012-07-05 18:51 , Savageduck wrote:
> On 2012-07-05 14:38:50 -0700, SI Committee
> <shooti...@StopThatMan-gmail.com> said:
>
>>
>> As it turns out one of our shooters has been quietly geotagging some
>> of his SI photos for quite some time. With that, the inauguration of
>> the Shootin Geo Tag page has retroactively begun.
>>
>> http://www.panoramio.com/user/7024030
>
> It seems that there were at least another 25 of my SI submissions which
> I had tagged when submitted, but were missed by overburdened SI
> Committees, past and current. Some show as tagged in thier respective
> Mandates, others not.

As the Committee Communications Officer related in a recent posting on
the subject of geotags, pbase has a geotag "checkbox" that has to be set
correctly at the time of uploading to retain the tags and show them on
pbase. Administrators and the overburdened data management sub
committee may not have paid attention to that in the past.

otter

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Jul 6, 2012, 2:04:51 AM7/6/12
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On Jul 5, 4:38 pm, SI Committee <shootinpho...@StopThatMan-gmail.com>
wrote:
Do you accept general submissions for Panoramio, or do they have to be
from submissions to a SI?

SI Committee

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Jul 6, 2012, 4:47:50 PM7/6/12
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For that we suggest you set up your own Panoramio.

To do that, if you haven't already done so, set up a gmail account.

That account is also your Panoramio account. (Many/Most "application"
websites provided by Google (Panoramio, Google+, Google Docs (Google
Drive), and so on) are all accessed/ible with a single "gmail" account
as the id. It's quite practical. Just mind your private data.

gpsman

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Jul 6, 2012, 11:29:55 PM7/6/12
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On Jul 6, 4:47 pm, SI Committee <shootinpho...@StopThatMan-gmail.com>
wrote:
> On 2012-07-06 02:04 , otter wrote:
>
> > Do you accept general submissions for Panoramio, or do they have to be
> > from submissions to a SI?
>
> For that we suggest you set up your own Panoramio.
>
> To do that, if you haven't already done so, set up a gmail account.

Panoramio does not require a gmail account.
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Alan Browne

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Jul 7, 2012, 10:52:52 AM7/7/12
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True enough. But for most people that would be the more convenient way
to use it.


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"Civilization is the limitless multiplication of unnecessary necessities."
-Samuel Clemens.

SI Committee

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Jul 7, 2012, 10:54:46 AM7/7/12
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On 2012-07-05 18:51 , Savageduck wrote:
We posted those that have (ITCO) geographic context.

gpsman

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On Jul 7, 10:52 am, Alan Browne <alan.bro...@FreelunchVideotron.ca>
wrote:
> On 2012-07-06 23:29 , gpsman wrote:
>
> > Panoramio does not require a gmail account.
>
> True enough.  But for most people that would be the more convenient way
> to use it.

How does a gmail account make Panoramio more convenient to use...?
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Alan Browne

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Jul 7, 2012, 11:41:20 AM7/7/12
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I'd tell you to use your imagination but you've already trampled all
over that notion.

gpsman

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On Jul 7, 11:41 am, Alan Browne <alan.bro...@FreelunchVideotron.ca>
wrote:
> On 2012-07-07 11:37 , gpsman wrote:
>
> > On Jul 7, 10:52 am, Alan Browne <alan.bro...@FreelunchVideotron.ca>
> > wrote:
> >> On 2012-07-06 23:29 , gpsman wrote:
>
> >>> Panoramio does not require a gmail account.
>
> >> True enough.  But for most people that would be the more convenient way
> >> to use it.
>
> > How does a gmail account make Panoramio more convenient to use...?
>
> I'd tell you to use your imagination but you've already trampled all
> over that notion.

Imagine those who don't know you don't know what the fuck you're
talking about.
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- gpsman

Alan Browne

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Jul 7, 2012, 2:28:15 PM7/7/12
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Imagine that you haven't spent enough time looking into it to know better.

gpsman

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Jul 7, 2012, 3:31:24 PM7/7/12
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On Jul 7, 2:28 pm, Alan Browne <alan.bro...@FreelunchVideotron.ca>
wrote:
> On 2012-07-07 14:19 , gpsman wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jul 7, 11:41 am, Alan Browne <alan.bro...@FreelunchVideotron.ca>
> > wrote:
> >> On 2012-07-07 11:37 , gpsman wrote:
>
> >>> On Jul 7, 10:52 am, Alan Browne <alan.bro...@FreelunchVideotron.ca>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>> On 2012-07-06 23:29 , gpsman wrote:
>
> >>>>> Panoramio does not require a gmail account.
>
> >>>> True enough.  But for most people that would be the more convenient way
> >>>> to use it.
>
> >>> How does a gmail account make Panoramio more convenient to use...?
>
> >> I'd tell you to use your imagination but you've already trampled all
> >> over that notion.
>
> > Imagine those who don't know you don't know what the fuck you're
> > talking about.
>
> Imagine that you haven't spent enough time looking into it to know better.

Let me Google that for you: http://bit.ly/NdcoXh
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- gpsman

Alan Browne

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Jul 8, 2012, 10:06:16 AM7/8/12
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Which I didn't, don't need. The question was 'is it better to access
Pan with a gmail account' and it is. For several reasons. And I'll
just let you continue searching.

gpsman

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Jul 8, 2012, 12:29:54 PM7/8/12
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On Jul 8, 10:06 am, Alan Browne <alan.bro...@FreelunchVideotron.ca>
wrote:
> On 2012-07-07 15:31 , gpsman wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jul 7, 2:28 pm, Alan Browne <alan.bro...@FreelunchVideotron.ca>
> > wrote:
> >> On 2012-07-07 14:19 , gpsman wrote:
>
> >>> On Jul 7, 11:41 am, Alan Browne <alan.bro...@FreelunchVideotron.ca>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>> On 2012-07-07 11:37 , gpsman wrote:
>
> >>>>> On Jul 7, 10:52 am, Alan Browne <alan.bro...@FreelunchVideotron.ca>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>> On 2012-07-06 23:29 , gpsman wrote:
>
> >>>>>>> Panoramio does not require a gmail account.
>
> >>>>>> True enough.  But for most people that would be the more convenient way
> >>>>>> to use it.
>
> >>>>> How does a gmail account make Panoramio more convenient to use...?
>
> >>>> I'd tell you to use your imagination but you've already trampled all
> >>>> over that notion.
>
> >>> Imagine those who don't know you don't know what the fuck you're
> >>> talking about.
>
> >> Imagine that you haven't spent enough time looking into it to know better.
>
> > Let me Google that for you:  http://bit.ly/NdcoXh
>
> Which I didn't, don't need.

Straw man. I couldn't care less about what -you- need, it
substantiates you're full of shit for those who may wonder which of us
knows what they are talking about.

> The question was 'is it better to access
> Pan with a gmail account' and it is.  For several reasons.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proof_by_assertion

But Panoramio is keeping those several reasons a secret, but you found
out, but you're not talking...?

> And I'll
> just let you continue searching.

Because you're full of shit.

What about those in the 4 groups to which you are posting that might
not be so interweb savvy as yourself, fuck 'em...?
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- gpsman

otter

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Jul 8, 2012, 3:44:04 PM7/8/12
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On Jul 6, 3:47 pm, SI Committee <shootinpho...@StopThatMan-gmail.com>
wrote:
> On 2012-07-06 02:04 , otter wrote:
>
> > On Jul 5, 4:38 pm, SI Committee <shootinpho...@StopThatMan-gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >> As it turns out one of our shooters has been quietly geotagging some of
> >> his SI photos for quite some time.  With that, the inauguration of the
> >> Shootin Geo Tag page has retroactively begun.
>
> >>http://www.panoramio.com/user/7024030
>
> >> --
> >> The Committee
> >> Submit photos to:  shootinphotos AHT gmail DAHT com
>
> > Do you accept general submissions for Panoramio, or do they have to be
> > from submissions to a SI?
>
> For that we suggest you set up your own Panoramio.

I'll pass on that. Was just wondering if you wanted additional
pictures to seed the Panoramio you are setting up. But I got my
answer. It make sense to restrict it to just SI submissions.

What about previous SI submissions that didn't include GPS data at the
time, would you like some of those resubmitted with GPS data? Or
don't bother about it?

SI Committee

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On 2012-07-08 15:44 , otter wrote:

> What about previous SI submissions that didn't include GPS data at the
> time, would you like some of those resubmitted with GPS data? Or
> don't bother about it?

The Committee's enthusiasm for it is tempered by the work that may be
involved. But if there are some you have submitted to the SI that you'd
like retro-loaded to Panoramio:

- e-mail us the photo WITH the geotag in it. (address in sig).

-OR-

- send a link to the photo on pbase
- along with the lat/long of where the shot was taken from
(not the lat/long of the subject).

And the data management sub-committee will put them up in good time.

Alan Browne

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Jul 8, 2012, 4:40:34 PM7/8/12
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I'm not asserting anything other than that even you can find why. At
least 1 good reason is very obvious and the other is evident enough.

Other reasons I would concede as arguable - that is to say 'in the eye
of the beholder'.

> But Panoramio is keeping those several reasons a secret, but you found
> out, but you're not talking...?
>
>> And I'll
>> just let you continue searching.
>
> Because you're full of shit.
>
> What about those in the 4 groups to which you are posting that might
> not be so interweb savvy as yourself, fuck 'em...?

There are only 2 people with an interest to date. AFAICT, 'duck doesn't
have a Panoramio account and doesn't care to have one. He's savvy
enough to figure out on his own what's best for him. And per otter's
recent post he's even more ambivalent.

You're obviously brilliant enough (you caught my earlier error which I
made no bones about) to figure the rest for yourself. And if you don't
believe me you can just imagine how much I care.

Savageduck

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Jul 8, 2012, 5:49:54 PM7/8/12
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On 2012-07-08 13:40:34 -0700, Alan Browne
<alan....@FreelunchVideotron.ca> said:

> On 2012-07-08 12:29 , gpsman wrote:

<<< Le Snip >>>

> What about those in the 4 groups to which you are posting that might
>> not be so interweb savvy as yourself, fuck 'em...?
>
> There are only 2 people with an interest to date. AFAICT, 'duck
> doesn't have a Panoramio account and doesn't care to have one. He's
> savvy enough to figure out on his own what's best for him.

Yup!
I have never been a great fan of Panoramio even though I like he concept.
I have a Gmail account, I use Picasa Web, & G+, Panoramio always seemed
to be an intrusive blight on Google Earth, so I turn it off.
In some geographic locations the blanket of Panoramio images makes
Google Earth useless. Sometimes Google does too much to integrate its
products, so I keep Panoramio and a lot of other clutter turned off in
GE unless I have a specific itch which needs to be scratched.

That said, I can understand that Panoramio serves a purpose for those
with the ability to tag images, and who wish to have the locations of
some of their images displayed. It also serves a purpose as one of many
tools for those who care to locate where tagged SI submissions were
shot.

I just hold that Geo-tagging adds an interesting element to all images
for those with even the slightest bit of curiosity about the World
around them.

I have been fascinated with the potential of GPS and having the ability
to tag about 90% of my images so that those I share the images with can
access the location data if they care to. Call it my "Easter egg" for
those who enjoy such things.
There are of course times GPS data is stripped for various reasons when
I post an image.

> And per otter's recent post he's even more ambivalent.

...but not as dismissive as some others.

>
> You're obviously brilliant enough (you caught my earlier error which I
> made no bones about) to figure the rest for yourself. And if you don't
> believe me you can just imagine how much I care.

BTW: Is "gpsman" planning on submitting any of his geo-tagged
photographic work to a future SI?


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Regards,

Savageduck

PeterN

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Jul 8, 2012, 7:39:21 PM7/8/12
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On 7/5/2012 5:38 PM, SI Committee wrote:
>
> As it turns out one of our shooters has been quietly geotagging some of
> his SI photos for quite some time. With that, the inauguration of the
> Shootin Geo Tag page has retroactively begun.
>
> http://www.panoramio.com/user/7024030
>
>

I have not used geotagging. However, during the last two days I was
roaming around in Dutchess and Colombia Counties, looking for bucolic
scenery. It would be nice if I could easily return to shoot those scenes
under various lighting conditions. There may very well be a geotagging
in my future.

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Peter


Savageduck

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Jul 8, 2012, 8:28:19 PM7/8/12
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A use is discovered!

For your Nikon DSLR I would suggest stepping up and buy a Nikon GP-1. I
leave mine on all the time, mounted in the hot-shoe. Unless I need to
use my SB-800. Then I just let it hang from the 10-pin connector cable.

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Regards,

Savageduck

Eric Stevens

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Jul 8, 2012, 9:03:44 PM7/8/12
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Don't you use your cable release?

Regards,

Eric Stevens

Savageduck

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Jul 8, 2012, 9:28:09 PM7/8/12
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If I have to use my wireless remote, or my cable release which both
connect via the 10-pin plug, I first consider if I am shooting indoors
or outdoors. Also when using a remote release you don't usually move
the camera around too much. If indoors, I know I am not likely to get a
good GPS fix anyway. So it is easy enough to take a locating reference
shot outside the building, disconnect the GP-1, and continue shooting
using whichever remote release I have decided on, either my Nikon MC-30
or my Phottix Plato wireless remote;
< http://www.phottixstore.com/store/wireless-remotes/phottix-plato.html >

I can then tag the finished indoor files with the GPS location data
from the reference shot.
The same can be done when using a 10-pin connect remote release
outdoors. Just shoot a reference location shot and tag the other shots
in post using the reference data.

...or if you have any other means of recording a waypoint or fix a
location you can use that device (a dedicated GPS logger, or a smart
phone, such as an iPhone) to obtain a location reference shot so you
can add tags to the product shots in post.

--
Regards,

Savageduck

Savageduck

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Jul 8, 2012, 9:45:41 PM7/8/12
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On 2012-07-08 16:39:21 -0700, PeterN <pete...@nospam.verizon.net> said:

BTW: You already own an iPhone and you have taken shots at some of the
locations you used for the "Food" SI. So you are already Geo-tagging.
Check your settings to see if you have "Location Services: turned on
for the iPhone. Then scroll down the list of Apps, which include the
"Camera" to make sure "Location Services" are turned on for that app.
I have several Apps which make good use of Location Services on my
iPhone, including:
Audubon Field Guide
iBird Pro
Camera
Camera+
Evernote
Gasbuddy (great for finding nearby low gas prices!)
Locator
Google Earth
GPSnote
MapsWithMe (for downloading maps to be used offline, great when there
is no cell or WiFi access.)
MotionX-GPS
Theodolite
The Photographer's Ephemeris
NG Park Maps
NG Park Guides
PS Express
Snapseed
Tunein Radio
Weather
Wikipedia
Yellowbook
and
Find My Phone

Just take a reference shot with your iPhone and you will have the
location data recorded.

--
Regards,

Savageduck

otter

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On Jul 8, 3:31 pm, SI Committee <shootinpho...@StopThatMan-gmail.com>
wrote:
Ah, I may take the second route, and only for a few pictures. May
take a few days to get to it.

gpsman

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On Jul 8, 4:40 pm, Alan Browne <alan.bro...@FreelunchVideotron.ca>
wrote:
> On 2012-07-08 12:29 , gpsman wrote:
> > What about those in the 4 groups to which you are posting that might
> > not be so interweb savvy as yourself, fuck 'em...?
>
> There are only 2 people with an interest to date.  AFAICT, 'duck doesn't
> have a Panoramio account and doesn't care to have one.  He's savvy
> enough to figure out on his own what's best for him.  And per otter's
> recent post he's even more ambivalent.

False premise. Only 2 people have -expressed- an interest.

Of the 4 groups to which you post may be readers intrigued by
Panoramio and not interested in the SI.

> You're obviously brilliant enough (you caught my earlier error which I
> made no bones about) to figure the rest for yourself.  And if you don't
> believe me you can just imagine how much I care.

Idiots never care that they're idiots.

Your "advice" is the equivalent of claiming IE is the best browser,
for several reasons:

1.

2.

3.

4.

You fall further afoul of sanity by asserting you know what is best or
most convenient for most people, something you have no method of
having determined.

Your supply of smoke to blow up asses seems unlimited, though, so you
got that going for you.
-----

- gpsman

Alan Browne

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Jul 9, 2012, 4:29:36 PM7/9/12
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On 2012-07-08 17:49 , Savageduck wrote:
> On 2012-07-08 13:40:34 -0700, Alan Browne
> <alan....@FreelunchVideotron.ca> said:
>
>> On 2012-07-08 12:29 , gpsman wrote:
>
> <<< Le Snip >>>
>
>> What about those in the 4 groups to which you are posting that might
>>> not be so interweb savvy as yourself, fuck 'em...?
>>
>> There are only 2 people with an interest to date. AFAICT, 'duck
>> doesn't have a Panoramio account and doesn't care to have one. He's
>> savvy enough to figure out on his own what's best for him.
>
> Yup!
> I have never been a great fan of Panoramio even though I like he concept.
> I have a Gmail account, I use Picasa Web, & G+, Panoramio always seemed
> to be an intrusive blight on Google Earth, so I turn it off.
> In some geographic locations the blanket of Panoramio images makes
> Google Earth useless. Sometimes Google does too much to integrate its
> products, so I keep Panoramio and a lot of other clutter turned off in
> GE unless I have a specific itch which needs to be scratched.

Yes, people post a lot of useless photos. Thankfully, Google Maps and
Earth both allow their suppression. I've posted nearly 300 photos to
PaRio, and frankly, I should go in there and remove about half.

> That said, I can understand that Panoramio serves a purpose for those
> with the ability to tag images, and who wish to have the locations of
> some of their images displayed. It also serves a purpose as one of many
> tools for those who care to locate where tagged SI submissions were shot.
>
> I just hold that Geo-tagging adds an interesting element to all images
> for those with even the slightest bit of curiosity about the World
> around them.
>
> I have been fascinated with the potential of GPS and having the ability
> to tag about 90% of my images so that those I share the images with can
> access the location data if they care to. Call it my "Easter egg" for
> those who enjoy such things.
> There are of course times GPS data is stripped for various reasons when
> I post an image.
>
>> And per otter's recent post he's even more ambivalent.
>
> ...but not as dismissive as some others.

True, "asserted" dis-interest. So you're "warm", otter is "lukewarm",
most of the others are varying degrees of chilly.

>>
>> You're obviously brilliant enough (you caught my earlier error which I
>> made no bones about) to figure the rest for yourself. And if you
>> don't believe me you can just imagine how much I care.
>
> BTW: Is "gpsman" planning on submitting any of his geo-tagged
> photographic work to a future SI?

A good question.

Alan Browne

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Jul 9, 2012, 4:40:34 PM7/9/12
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On 2012-07-09 11:36 , gpsman wrote:
> On Jul 8, 4:40 pm, Alan Browne <alan.bro...@FreelunchVideotron.ca>
> wrote:
>> On 2012-07-08 12:29 , gpsman wrote:
>>> What about those in the 4 groups to which you are posting that might
>>> not be so interweb savvy as yourself, fuck 'em...?
>>
>> There are only 2 people with an interest to date. AFAICT, 'duck doesn't
>> have a Panoramio account and doesn't care to have one. He's savvy
>> enough to figure out on his own what's best for him. And per otter's
>> recent post he's even more ambivalent.
>
> False premise. Only 2 people have -expressed- an interest.

Given your "challenges" any others with that interest should have risen
their hands by now. As 'duck points out in his recent post, acceptance
of geotagging in the SI context have met with a chill wind.

> Of the 4 groups to which you post may be readers intrigued by
> Panoramio and not interested in the SI.

That does not exclude them asking regardless of their interest in the SI.

>> You're obviously brilliant enough (you caught my earlier error which I
>> made no bones about) to figure the rest for yourself. And if you don't
>> believe me you can just imagine how much I care.
>
> Idiots never care that they're idiots.

Lovely non-sequiter. I guess your balls are swelling now.

>
> Your "advice" is the equivalent of claiming IE is the best browser,
> for several reasons:

That's a cute misdirection and as meaningless as the rest of your blowout.

> You fall further afoul of sanity by asserting you know what is best or

How does one "fall further afoul of sanity"? Please elaborate.

> most convenient for most people, something you have no method of
> having determined.

Tsk, tsk. I only suggested it was "more convenient". I never claimed
I know what is best for most people.

> Your supply of smoke to blow up asses seems unlimited, though, so you
> got that going for you.

Your supply of frustration is actually worrying to me. I suggest you
soon schedule a visit to your GP. On that note, this is my last reply
to you. I would feel badly if you caused yourself injury.

PeterN

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Jul 9, 2012, 7:17:41 PM7/9/12
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> ....or if you have any other means of recording a waypoint or fix a
> location you can use that device (a dedicated GPS logger, or a smart
> phone, such as an iPhone) to obtain a location reference shot so you can
> add tags to the product shots in post.
>


That is a lot of extra work. I am still more concerned with the composition.

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Peter


PeterN

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All true, but I am thinking about an upgrade, and am not sure if I would
have a compatibility issue. *At least if there is one, I would like to
know prior to purchase.

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Peter


PeterN

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True, but I see matching the image with the iPhone geotag as a PITA.
Perhaps I have to rethink my laziness.

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Peter


gpsman

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On Jul 9, 4:40 pm, Alan Browne <alan.bro...@FreelunchVideotron.ca>
wrote:
> On 2012-07-09 11:36 , gpsman wrote:
>
> > Idiots never care that they're idiots.
>
> Lovely non-sequiter.  I guess your balls are swelling now.

That's not a non sequitur, you can't even spell it.

> > You fall further afoul of sanity by asserting you know what is best or
>
> How does one "fall further afoul of sanity"?  Please elaborate.

If I have to explain further, you wouldn't understand.

> > most convenient for most people, something you have no method of
> > having determined.
>
> Tsk, tsk.   I only suggested it was "more convenient".  I never claimed
> I know what is best for most people.

Date: Sat, 07 Jul 2012 10:52:52 -0400
From: Alan Browne <alan.bro...@FreelunchVideotron.ca>
Newsgroups: rec.photo.digital.slr-systems,rec.photo.equipment.
35mm,rec.photo.digital,alt.photography
Subject: Re: Geotags - examples

"But for most people that would be the more convenient way"
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.photo.equipment.35mm/msg/2f47af07940ac725?hl=en&dmode=source

> > Your supply of smoke to blow up asses seems unlimited, though, so you
> > got that going for you.
>
> Your supply of frustration is actually worrying to me.  I suggest you
> soon schedule a visit to your GP.   On that note, this is my last reply
> to you.  I would feel badly if you caused yourself injury.

Red herring.

You started out as simply mistaken, and couldn't admit it...and
couldn't shut the fuck up.
-----

- gpsman

Savageduck

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While you can certainly use the iPhone geo-tag data to tag images shot
with your DSLR, I agree, that is a royal PITA. What I was saying above,
was given more as a solution for providing you a geo-tagged reference
shot to facilitate a later return to past and future photography sites.
With your iPhone you are not limited to making that record with a
photograph. You can use one of the GPS apps such as MotionX-GPS to log
a trip and just set a waypoint for a location.
MotionX-GPS $0.99 <
http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/motionx-gps/id299949744?mt=8 >

Theodolite Pro $3.99 <
http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/theodolite-pro/id339393884?mt=8 >
Adds a bit more, along with an integrated camera, so a shot which
includes useful information such as location and compass heading of the
shot, and more.
Something like this where the information is recorded as an iPhone
screen shot, as well as the image being geo-tagged.
< http://db.tt/H9lGaDjx >

GPS Notes has free & ad-free $0.99 version. This keeps track of your
location and if you want to mark a site, you drop a pin and attach a
note. Very simple and a record is noted. This is not a traditional GPS
application or an image file geo-tagger, it serves a simpler purpose.
< http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/my-gps-notes/id353548274?mt=8 >

--
Regards,

Savageduck

Savageduck

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Jul 9, 2012, 9:55:17 PM7/9/12
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That was intended as a response to Eric's question regarding use of a
remote release (cable release in NZ speak).

That extra work is only an issue if the 10-pin cable is being used for
something other than GPS.
Note: The newer Nikons use a dedicated GPS port, not the 10-pin plug.
That would make all of the above moot for owners of newer Nikon DSLRs.
--
Regards,

Savageduck

Savageduck

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As I stated in another response, the newer Nikon DSLRs have a dedicated
GSP port instead of the 10-pin plug, and would just use a different
cable with the GP-1.

--
Regards,

Savageduck

otter

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Sent. Let me know if that doesn't work for you.

Savageduck

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GSP!!! ?
One of my tags must have slipped!

--
Regards,

Savageduck

PeterN

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Jul 10, 2012, 6:20:51 AM7/10/12
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Thanks for the app idea, Nest trip I may p;ay with it,. I also have GPS
in the car, and that is more convenient. I did make some of the key way
points, such as the Post Office at Malden Bridge, in the car, though few
images were actually tagged. What I really should do, i indicate which
images would be better shot, at what time of day, or under what lighting
conditions. Remember though the location is a over 130 miles from my home.



--
Peter


PeterN

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I know. But we don't really know if the GPS port wold be compatible. My
thought is to wait until I decide which new model to get, and then check
the compatibility issue. Some folks who know me well talked me out of
the D800.

--
Peter


PeterN

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Your dyslexic fingers could be a direct result of not believing in doG

--
Peter


Savageduck

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For planning daylight, Sun & Moon rise, Sun & Moon set, for any
location on any date, there is "The Photographer"s Ephemeris
< http://photoephemeris.com/ >

check some of these screen shots for the type of information available
with this App, For what it does, not a bad value at $8.99.
< http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/the-photographers-ephemeris/id366195670?mt=8 >

The iPhone can be so much more than a phone.

--
Regards,

Savageduck

Savageduck

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Nikon lists the GP-1 as compatible with most of the usual suspects
including the D3 family, D4, D700, D800.

<
http://www.nikonusa.com/Nikon-Products/Product/GPS/25396/GP-1-GPS-Unit.html#tab-ProductDetail-ProductTabs-CompatibleWith
>

Nikon also has the GP-N100 which only functions on the Nikon 1 V1.

So I would say you could safely get the GP-1 and it should function
just fine with the new camera.

--
Regards,

Savageduck

PeterN

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One of my friends has a similar app for his iPad. It works well.

--
Peter


George Kerby

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On 7/10/12 5:33 AM, in article
2012071003334823865-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom, "Savageduck"
Try "Sunrise Sunset! Free":

<http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/sunrise-sunset!-free/id333203697?mt=8>

It is quite useful for the iPhone.

George Kerby

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On 7/10/12 11:14 AM, in article
4ffc54e0$0$8181$8f2e...@news.shared-secrets.com, "PeterN"
Ahh, that would be "Sunrise & Fall". I love it!

PeterN

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This app is not free. But, it shows the angle of the Sun Nd the Moon,
rising and setting, from any location, in addition to the time and
tides. It's great for planning photo shoots. Of course weather is always
a factor.

--
Peter


Savageduck

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Nice and simple if time of the event is all you need.
The Photographer's Ephemeris (TPE) adds so much more. Check their web
site and some of the tutorials. The desktop version is free.

--
Regards,

Savageduck

Alan Browne

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Jul 10, 2012, 4:43:23 PM7/10/12
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On 2012-07-10 00:07 , otter wrote:

> Sent. Let me know if that doesn't work for you.

Look fine. May be up by the time you read this at

http://www.panoramio.com/user/7024030

Alan Browne

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On 2012-07-10 06:33 , Savageduck wrote:

> http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/the-photographers-ephemeris/id366195670?mt=8
> >
That's neat. I often use Google Earth or Stellarium to look at sun
direction before going to particular places. I think for $9 I'll pass
on that app though.

(Stellarium, an astronomy application, is free. It's also available
for Windows and Linux. UI is a bit odd, but you get used to it).

Alan Browne

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On 2012-07-09 20:53 , Savageduck wrote:

> While you can certainly use the iPhone geo-tag data to tag images shot
> with your DSLR, I agree, that is a royal PITA. What I was saying above,
> was given more as a solution for providing you a geo-tagged reference
> shot to facilitate a later return to past and future photography sites.
> With your iPhone you are not limited to making that record with a
> photograph. You can use one of the GPS apps such as MotionX-GPS to log a
> trip and just set a waypoint for a location.
> MotionX-GPS $0.99 <
> http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/motionx-gps/id299949744?mt=8 >

Already have it. But I swear I paid more than that for it back then.

>
> Theodolite Pro $3.99 <
> http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/theodolite-pro/id339393884?mt=8 >
> Adds a bit more, along with an integrated camera, so a shot which
> includes useful information such as location and compass heading of the
> shot, and more.
> Something like this where the information is recorded as an iPhone
> screen shot, as well as the image being geo-tagged.
> < http://db.tt/H9lGaDjx >

That I have to have! Thanks!

Alan Browne

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On 2012-07-09 20:05 , gpsman wrote:
> On Jul 9, 4:40 pm, Alan Browne <alan.bro...@FreelunchVideotron.ca>
> wrote:
>> On 2012-07-09 11:36 , gpsman wrote:
>>
>>> Idiots never care that they're idiots.
>>
>> Lovely non-sequiter. I guess your balls are swelling now.
>
> That's not a non sequitur, you can't even spell it.

Oh now we're down to spelling errors on usenet! You really do need a life!

I don't use a spell checker or latin very much at all. Sue me.

>>> You fall further afoul of sanity by asserting you know what is best or
>>
>> How does one "fall further afoul of sanity"? Please elaborate.
>
> If I have to explain further, you wouldn't understand.

Ah, you've realized it's complete nonsense.

>>> most convenient for most people, something you have no method of
>>> having determined.
>>
>> Tsk, tsk. I only suggested it was "more convenient". I never claimed
>> I know what is best for most people.
>

> "But for most people that would be the more convenient way"

Yes, that's called an opinion.

(And you still haven't figured out 2 ways specific ways in which using
gmail as ones Panoramio account would be more convenient for most people
- or hey, in a fit of generosity I'll water that down to "many" people -
and that is a clue that even you should be able to grasp).

>>> Your supply of smoke to blow up asses seems unlimited, though, so you
>>> got that going for you.
>>
>> Your supply of frustration is actually worrying to me. I suggest you
>> soon schedule a visit to your GP. On that note, this is my last reply
>> to you. I would feel badly if you caused yourself injury.
>
> Red herring.
>
> You started out as simply mistaken, and couldn't admit it...and
> couldn't shut the fuck up.

You're the one having a major diahrea attack.

And you're still in the dark.

EOD for me. Have the last word.

George Kerby

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On 7/10/12 12:02 PM, in article CC21CA38.8A6FB%ghost_...@hotmail.com,
Errr. "The Sun Rise" is how that should be entered as a search in the
weather app area.

PeterN

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On 7/10/2012 4:43 PM, Alan Browne wrote:
> On 2012-07-10 00:07 , otter wrote:
>
>> Sent. Let me know if that doesn't work for you.
>
> Look fine. May be up by the time you read this at
>
> http://www.panoramio.com/user/7024030
>

I think Otter's tree is superb. Looks like an in camera multiple exposure.

--
Peter


otter

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On Jul 10, 3:43 pm, Alan Browne <alan.bro...@FreelunchVideotron.ca>
wrote:
The Hamilton Pool shot is off by about 1000-1500 ft (should be more
over to the right). Other than that, they all look correct. Hey,
this is kinda cool!

otter

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No, I did work on it a little in post (lightroom), but not much. Just
toned down some parts that were blown out using recover. Maybe a few
other things, but nothing like the kind of crap I try to pull these
days. I was a lot more conservative then.

gpsman

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On Jul 10, 5:04 pm, Alan Browne <alan.bro...@FreelunchVideotron.ca>
wrote:
> On 2012-07-09 20:05 , gpsman wrote:
> > On Jul 9, 4:40 pm, Alan Browne <alan.bro...@FreelunchVideotron.ca>
> > wrote:
> >> On 2012-07-09 11:36 , gpsman wrote:
>
> >>> Idiots never care that they're idiots.
>
> >> Lovely non-sequiter.  I guess your balls are swelling now.
>
> > That's not a non sequitur, you can't even spell it.
>
> Oh now we're down to spelling errors on usenet!  You really do need a life!

Yes, of course.

Your spelling error punctuates your misuse of the term, otherwise I'd
never have mentioned it.

It is interesting to note your red herring tactic of latching onto my
mention of your spelling error and completely ignored addressing that
you have no idea of the meaning of non sequitur.

I think you're further establishing that your ignorance knows no
bounds.

> I don't use a spell checker or latin very much at all.   Sue me.

So you can't spell and don't avail yourself of a spell checker.
There's a surprise.

> >>> You fall further afoul of sanity by asserting you know what is best or
>
> >> How does one "fall further afoul of sanity"?  Please elaborate.
>
> > If I have to explain further, you wouldn't understand.
>
> Ah, you've realized it's complete nonsense.

Ah, petitio principii. I'll bet that's still a devastating riposte to
those in 2nd grade.

> >>> most convenient for most people, something you have no method of
> >>> having determined.
>
> >> Tsk, tsk.   I only suggested it was "more convenient".  I never claimed
> >> I know what is best for most people.
>
> > "But for most people that would be the more convenient way"
>
> Yes, that's called an opinion.

Red herring. First it's called, "Yes, you did say that".

Second, there's your problem, you don't know opinion from statement of
fact.

Either way you purport to know something you obviously have no method
of learning.

> (And you still haven't figured out 2 ways specific ways in which using
> gmail as ones Panoramio account would be more convenient for most people
> - or hey, in a fit of generosity I'll water that down to "many" people -
> and that is a clue that even you should be able to grasp).

Ah, the ol' "I know something you don't know" song.

Imagine how effective that might be if there was a shred of evidence
to support it!

> >>> Your supply of smoke to blow up asses seems unlimited, though, so you
> >>> got that going for you.
>
> >> Your supply of frustration is actually worrying to me.  I suggest you
> >> soon schedule a visit to your GP.   On that note, this is my last reply
> >> to you.  I would feel badly if you caused yourself injury.
>
> > Red herring.
>
> > You started out as simply mistaken, and couldn't admit it...and
> > couldn't shut the fuck up.
>
> You're the one having a major diahrea attack.
>
> And you're still in the dark.

You already used the "I know something you don't know" song.
Unfortunately, you cannot disguise it's actually, "I imagine I know
something...".

> EOD for me.  Have the last word.

Again?! OK, thanks.

There's absolutely no reason to establish a gmail account to establish
a Panoramio account, any valid email address will do.

The purpose of Panoramio is to augment the usefulness of Google Earth,
for Earth users. It couldn't be easier or more convenient to use for
contributors.

The only plausible reason for your reluctance to reveal your secrets
is those secrets are entirely the product of your imagination.

Thanks again for providing this generous opportunity to correct your
misinformation.
-----

- gpsman

Alan Browne

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I used the coordinates you sent. I'll move it over to the west edge of
the feature.

Yes, it is neat. Maybe some of the naysayers will be as charmed.

otter

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On Jul 11, 3:55 pm, Alan Browne <alan.bro...@FreelunchVideotron.ca>
wrote:
> On 2012-07-10 22:55 , otter wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jul 10, 3:43 pm, Alan Browne <alan.bro...@FreelunchVideotron.ca>
> > wrote:
> >> On 2012-07-10 00:07 , otter wrote:
>
> >>> Sent.  Let me know if that doesn't work for you.
>
> >> Look fine.  May be up by the time you read this at
>
> >>http://www.panoramio.com/user/7024030
>
> >> --
> >> "Civilization is the limitless multiplication of unnecessary necessities."
> >>               -Samuel Clemens.
>
> > The Hamilton Pool shot is off by about 1000-1500 ft (should be more
> > over to the right).  Other than that, they all look correct.  Hey,
> > this is kinda cool!
>
> I used the coordinates you sent.  I'll move it over to the west edge of
> the feature.
>
> Yes, it is neat.  Maybe some of the naysayers will be as charmed.


Thanks, that is actually pretty close to where the picture was taken.
I didn't realize you could change the map type in GeoSetter, and all I
saw was a big green area in street view, so I made a guess that the
pool was close to label on the map, when it wasn't. Switching to
satellite view showed the error of my ways. Hey, I'm on a learning
curve here!

PeterN

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Jul 12, 2012, 3:32:39 PM7/12/12
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I saw the ghostly tree trunks as a multiple exposure. They just don't
look like light beams to me.

--
Peter


Alan Browne

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On 2012-07-11 23:49 , otter wrote:
> On Jul 11, 3:55 pm, Alan Browne <alan.bro...@FreelunchVideotron.ca>

>> I used the coordinates you sent. I'll move it over to the west edge of
>> the feature.
>>
>
> Thanks, that is actually pretty close to where the picture was taken.
> I didn't realize you could change the map type in GeoSetter, and all I
> saw was a big green area in street view, so I made a guess that the
> pool was close to label on the map, when it wasn't. Switching to
> satellite view showed the error of my ways. Hey, I'm on a learning
> curve here!

If you're "logged in" (another advantage of a gmail account), while in
Google Maps, you can right click and "drop" a lat long marker at a point
of interest. Copy/paste the coordinates (which will also be in the less
messy DDD.DDDDD format).

In Google Earth, you can drop a pin on a feature, then use "Get Info" to
get the coordinates. A little messier as a procedure.

Joe Makowiec

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On 12 Jul 2012 in rec.photo.digital.slr-systems, Alan Browne wrote:

> If you're "logged in" (another advantage of a gmail account), while
> in Google Maps, you can right click and "drop" a lat long marker at
> a point of interest. Copy/paste the coordinates (which will also be
> in the less messy DDD.DDDDD format).

You don't need to be logged in to do this. Look at the bottom of the
left-hand panel for "Maps Labs" in a barely readable font size. Clicking
on this will open up a panel where you can select various less or more
useful tools to use with Google Maps.

--
Joe Makowiec
http://makowiec.org/
Email: http://makowiec.org/contact/?Joe
Usenet Improvement Project: http://twovoyagers.com/improve-usenet.org/

Alan Browne

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On 2012-07-12 18:07 , Joe Makowiec wrote:
> On 12 Jul 2012 in rec.photo.digital.slr-systems, Alan Browne wrote:
>
>> If you're "logged in" (another advantage of a gmail account), while
>> in Google Maps, you can right click and "drop" a lat long marker at
>> a point of interest. Copy/paste the coordinates (which will also be
>> in the less messy DDD.DDDDD format).
>
> You don't need to be logged in to do this. Look at the bottom of the
> left-hand panel for "Maps Labs" in a barely readable font size. Clicking
> on this will open up a panel where you can select various less or more
> useful tools to use with Google Maps.

So it is. Didn't know that one - I enabled that under my account when
it came out a couple (few?) years ago and assumed it was attached to that.

otter

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Jul 13, 2012, 1:14:59 AM7/13/12
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On Jul 12, 3:53 pm, Alan Browne <alan.bro...@FreelunchVideotron.ca>
wrote:
GeoSetter had everything needed, I just didn't know how to use it at
the time (my first hour using the tool). I could have given you
coordinates, too. It was just a random choice.

Alan Browne

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Jul 13, 2012, 8:31:04 PM7/13/12
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On 2012-07-13 01:14 , otter wrote:

> GeoSetter had everything needed, I just didn't know how to use it at
> the time (my first hour using the tool). I could have given you
> coordinates, too. It was just a random choice.

Of course. There was nothing wrong with the other photos coordinates
you provided. There are so many tools and they aren't uniform in their
approach (good thing/bad thing).
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