Magazine recomdations.
Ray Creveling
is photographic but, i rarely find a negative comment about anything. I have
a feeling most magazine would right up a camera that explodes when you press
the shutter as a weight reducing feature
russbutner
Glen Barrington
Newstand price $4.95 U.S. I found it at Waldenbooks newstand of all places.
Editorial email: pve...@fone.net
subscriptions: pvs...@fone.net
The March/April issue had an article on WHY people make pictures, an
article on Post Modernism, what it is and the effect it had on Photography,
a review of an ultra light 4x5 field camera, a review of the f6.3 Tessar
lens (patented in 1902) Plus Book reviews on Photobooks, portfolios and
articles on Nina Rizzo, Martin Blume, Robert Hirsch, and Deborah Sinai. (It
doesn't appear to claim to be a large format magazine, but they are clearly
aware of the larger formats. There is plenty there for the 35mm
photographer)
This is a magazine for people who want to look at pictures and read about
PHOTOGRAPHY. And it appears to be produced by people who believe the same
thing. The readers of this magazine don't want to read about what they can
BUY for their cameras. For the record, I have no connection to the
magazine.
I feel just like you do. I think it was in Petersens a couple of months ago
there was an "article" (identified as editorial content) about famous
photographers favorite equipment. Each photographer took a page to describe
the piece and why he/she liked it. On the opposite page was an ad for that
VERY product. There was no mention of classic equipment, or the like, All
the photographers just happened to select current equipment! How convenient
for the ad sales department. The whole thing was so obviously a set up for
the ad department. I wouldn't have had a problem with that if the thing was
billed as an advertising supplement. Just how stupid do they think we are?
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Randy Howard
says...
> Lenswork Quarterly and Camer Arts. The only two worth looking at
>
I just looked at the website for Camera Arta (www.cameraarts.com).
They claim it is 2 and 4-color images (only?). Is that correct,
or is that just for the articles, charts, etc.?
I also took a look at www.lenswork.com which appears to also
be a predominantly, if not totally B&W publication. Is that
right?
Randy Howard
>
Looking at www.cameraarts.com and www.lenswork.com, both appear to be
predominantly B&W. Camera Arts' web site claims 2-color and 4-color
images (only?). Is that correct?
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Tony Spadaro
"article" writen by the publicity department of the campany that makes the
product. Petersen's is the worst of the magazines for this practice, but all
of them do it.
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Synapse Man
And Practical Photography is best among British.
They are colourful, have good reviews that tell you the good and bad of
each camera. American mags tend to be dull in presentation, and most of
their "reviews" are nothing more than an explanation of the features of
a product. But the thing that irks me most is that almost all the issues
and 1/2 adverts.
dan
>
I shoot mostly landscapes, so I look for mags that focus on that.
The two mags that I usually buy every month are
"Outdoor Photography" a new UK mag (sorry, no addy)
and "Outdoor Photographer" http://www.outdoorphotographer.com
"EOS magazine" is a UK quarterly that I receive by mail.
http://www.eos-magazine.com
Stay away from "Nature Photographer"
May the Light be with you.
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dan
Tony Polson
> I think British magazines are the best.
> And Practical Photography is best among British.
>
> They are colourful, have good reviews that tell you the good and bad of
> each camera.
There was a time when I would have agreed about British mags in general,
and "Practical Photography" in particular.
Sadly, "Practical Photography" is more like an American photo mag than
any other British mag, apparently with strong endorsements of the
products that are advertised most in the magazine, and the strongest
endorsements of all for products that are sold by the magazine's mail
order department. No surprise there.
If they changed the title to "Canon and Sigma Monthly" I am sure no-one
would notice the difference.
The doyen of British mags is the weekly "Amateur Photographer". However
"Amateur Photographer" is rapidly losing its reputation for balanced
reviews of equipment. Some recent reviews have been truly bizarre,
perhaps reflecting a different approach, with new reviewers who seem to
place a higher priority on reader entertainment than the careful testing
and factual reporting for which "Amateur Photographer" was previously so
well regarded.
I'm not suggesting there is any bias, simply because most of AP's
advertising revenue apparently comes from dealer adverts for used
equipment. It's just that's there seems to have been a recent reduction
in reporting standards including a distinct lack of objectivity in
equipment reviews.
Like many others I rate highly the UK's "Outdoor Photography", but that
is for its artistic and editorial content rather than its equipment
reviews. Better equipment reviews are to be found in magazines like the
monthly "Professional Photographer". The weekly "British Journal of
Photography" seems to appeal more to aspiring amateurs than pros and its
equipment reviews are not what people buy the mag for.
Unless and until "Amateur Photographer" gets its act together once more,
or the new "Photography Monthly" makes some impact (it seems to be
staffed by disillusioned former "Practical Photography" journos, of
which there are many) I think the best reviews are found in other
European magazines, notably those published in France and Germany.
English language versions of these magazines would no doubt be top
sellers in the UK. It will come.
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Tony Polson
Mike Lipphardt
since volume 1 issue 1. Of course, that ain't long :)
Mike
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Mike Lipphardt
Popular Photography in terms of their equipment evaluations.
Mike
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Vagabond
<tony....@btinternet.com> wrote:
>I think the best reviews are found in other
>European magazines, notably those published in France and Germany.
Actually one does not need to learn German to "read" the tests in
Color Foto. Things are neatly organised in charts and tables and it
does not take a language genius to guess what "kontrast", "brillianz"
"scharfe" or "vignetterung" means. They also give points from 0-100
and declare winners. The product names are the same as in the rest of
the world (apart from those instances where the USA insist on their
own local names, but that confusion is the same in UK-US comparisons).
Vagabond
Tony Polson
I agree. I have no difficulty understanding test reports in German
magazines despite not speaking the language. My French is good enough
to read a French newspaper or news magazine several times a month; I
also have several French friends and we usually converse in French. But
most British people do not read any language other than English, and
most those that do would still strongly prefer to buy an English
language magazine.
It's not a question of not being able to understand. It's a question of
not being able to buy the magazines concerned. It isn't generally
possible to buy German and French photo magazines outside the major
cities of the UK, but that would change overnight if they were published
in English and therefore sold in much larger numbers.
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Mike Lipphardt
This allows us to export right-wing US culture all over the world and
gradually mind control entire nations (*joking* for the humor impaired).
Surely European magazines can do the same. I for one would LOVE to see an
english version of CD'I.
We do get the French _Photo_, but in French. Nice pics, but the text is not
acessible for those of us unfortunate enough to not understand it.
Mike
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Graham Sheppard
'Just a little hint if you ever go to France. Ouef means egg. Chapeau means hat.
It's like, those French have a different word for *everything*'
:-)
Graham
Mike Lipphardt wrote:
> <snip>
>
> We do get the French _Photo_, but in French. Nice pics, but the text is not
> acessible for those of us unfortunate enough to not understand it.
>
> Mike
>
<snip>
Mxsmanic
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> We do get the French _Photo_, but in French.
> Nice pics, but the text is not acessible for
> those of us unfortunate enough to not understand
> it.
That particular magazine has often struck me as a sort of very soft-core
pornography, as it seems to emphasize nude women and not a great deal
else.
It is true that just about every issue of _Chasseur d'Image_ features a
woman on the cover, but at least the rest of the magazine has substance.
A great many magazines feature women on the covers (no matter what the
subject of the magazine), so that alone is not necessarily unusual.
Michael J Hoffman
something to do with my photograph having been chosen as the grand prize
winner in the monthly contest in the July 2001 issue.
Michael H
"My psychiatrist sent me for an MRI because she thinks I have a magnetic
personality."
Mcshayqer
three reasons;
1. Used equipment ads. By best purchase so far (Tamron 90mm macro) was made via
the back pages of AP.
2. The portfolios. My favourites were "Tory Story" (AP May 12th 2001) and
"Subtitles for Life" (AP April 7th 2001).
3. Free film.
I do read some equipment reviews, but not generally for purchase.... i think
giving 87% to a Tokina 24-200 superzoom is going a little far. But I guess you
can't produce a weekly magazine on winning smiles....
Pat Chaney
>As Steve Martin once said:
>
>'Just a little hint if you ever go to France. Ouef means egg. Chapeau means hat.
>It's like, those French have a different word for *everything*'
They do understand English if you shout loud enough though :)
Pat
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of every word. "No Smoko Byo Gaso Tanko".
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Synapse Man
It's been years since I bought any photo magazines. After 2-3 years, I
found most of the articles and FAQs to be the same, so I haven't
bothered to pick up another camera mag since. But in retrospect, yes, I
do think Brit mags favour Sigma products.
But still...they are colourful. :)
Mike Lipphardt
supposed to be darn good. So I think their enthusiasm is justified.
Mike
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Robert Monaghan
in magazines, if you don't pay much per issue, you are probably paying
mostly for ads and a very few, mostly intro level articles and subjective
reviews (mostly positive and glowing...). If you don't get many ads, you
pay more per issue, but you may get more info...
after some reflection, and seeing how repetitive magazines usually were,
I've focused on adding books on photography and art (over 1,000 so far),
more meat, less fluff, more depth etc. Just added Nash's book on Ansel
Adams and Minolta's book on filters today for tonight's reading list ;-)
see mf/books.html for more ideas...
HTH bobm
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magazines - and there actually ARE a whole lot of books to read. When I got
my first SLR in 1966, I worked my way through the books on photography at my
local library branch - then I went downtown and got the ones the small
branch didn't have. I don't think it hurt my shooting.
The other nice thing about libraries is the ready availability of books
OF photographs along with the How2 books. Ther eis nothing like having Andre
Kertesz, Man Ray, David Plowden, Dorothea Lange, Cartier-Bresson, Berenice
Abbott, Margaret Bourke-White, Ansel Adams, Diane Arbus, Robert
Mapplethorpe, Elliot Porter, and thousands of others show you the way.
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Synapse Man
there, and considering the price, they certainly represent good bang for
your buck. But the thing that worries me is their build quality. Even
with careful maintenance and moderate use, I've had to send my camera
and lenses to repair twice in 5 years. And now in its 6th year, the lens
gears have worn off. That's too much a break-down rate for a 6 year old
system.
ThomasH
>
> On Thu, 07 Jun 2001 12:05:16 +0100, Tony Polson
> <tony....@btinternet.com> wrote:
> >I think the best reviews are found in other
> >European magazines, notably those published in France and Germany.
>
> Actually one does not need to learn German to "read" the tests in
> Color Foto. Things are neatly organised in charts and tables and it
> does not take a language genius to guess what "kontrast", "brillianz"
> "scharfe" or "vignetterung" means. They also give points from 0-100
But exactly this point system is what made me once to stop the
subscription of Color Foto. It appeared to me very arbitrary. 17 points,
23 points, give me a break. They even have had a note on the side of
the editorial page that you can request detailed test results via mail
from them. Their reasoning about not publishing these precise curves
and values was... that the most readers would not be able to understand.
Well, it is not up to them to decide who understands and who not. I will
see the results and make my own decision.
Since 2000 they started to publish nice looking 3D diagrams for lens
tests at least, what makes the tests comparable in their appearance
to the Popular Photographer.
Other than that, there is no doubt that Color Foto is a publication
of splendid virtues: Beautiful print, good paper, articles about
negative and positive (slide) photography (important in the US, a
slide desert or rather a Kodakia Republic of Carousel Mags,) dark
room processing and Art Photography. As far I saw the reactions of
my friends here in California, a slight envy was obvious in respect
in the free dealing with act photography. In the US the strange
correlation "sex _and_ violence" is prevailing.
> and declare winners. The product names are the same as in the rest of
> the world (apart from those instances where the USA insist on their
> own local names, but that confusion is the same in UK-US comparisons).
>
> Vagabond
I was always wondering why the product names are different in the US,
Japan and in Europe. But since they are also different in Japan I do
not think that the USA insist on having different names. I suspect
that this is made so by the Japanese companies to maintain a visible
separation of products for different markets with possibly differing
price structure.
Thomas.
Ron Todd
making a piece of defective merchandise?
Sounds like the the usual complaining about getting egg in your beer AND
the foam was dripping down the side of the glass.
Ron Todd
Sigma price point, a X year lens. If you want an X+Y years of life
lens, you will have to buy something else. I am sure many of the
"occasional" use photographers find the Sigma a perfect fit.
Tony Spadaro
read an article where Pop did say the N70 Nikon had an interface problem. It
was a review of the N80. Up till the N80 came out the N70 was jes'peachy. I
once bought a Slik U212D tripod based on a "prefect" review in Pop or
similar. It was pure crap. I still have it around to remind me of being
stupid enough to buy something based on the hype in hose magazines.
I can remember reading very good reviews of cameras like Topcon, and
Miranda. The market did shove them aside, but not for any lack of hype in
Modern, Pop, and Petersen. I once saw a review of a Miranda model I had
recently used - not a word said about innacurate light meter, sticky film
advance, dim viewfinder, etc. Oddly enough, those points never seem to get
mentioned when they review the latest Cosina SLRs either. Why is that?
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Tony Polson
> I once bought a Slik U212D tripod based on a "prefect" review in Pop or
> similar. It was pure crap. I still have it around to remind me of being
> stupid enough to buy something based on the hype in hose magazines.
Slik rocks! Just like Velbon ...
;-)
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russbutner
But, If you can settle for oats that have already been through the horse,well
that comes a little bit cheaper." RUSS
Randy Howard
tspa...@ncmaps.rr.com says...
> I once bought a Slik U212D tripod based on a "prefect" review in
> Pop or similar. It was pure crap.
I had a Slik tripod for about 2 weeks one time. I went off on a
trip to the Grand Tetons and managed to depart for the airport
without a tripod. I wound up buying one of these crappy things
in a camera shop (being generous) in Jackson Hole as it was
the "best" that they had. When I got back from my trip I gave
it to someone that I knew would never actually buy a decent
tripod anyway, so what the heck...
> I still have it around to remind me of being stupid enough to buy
> something based on the hype in hose magazines.
"Hose magazines". Interesting. Implying that those that read
them are destined to be hosed? :-)
Tony Polson
> And Velbon is Keppler's NEW main squeeze apparently.
I should have said "Herbert K Velbon rocks!"
In fact anything with the name Velbon rocks.
"Just when you needed a steady support, it rocked."
:-(
Here in the UK they've dropped the Velbon brand name from Sherpa
tripods; now they're just called "Sherpa". They've cut the price,
and the dealers are still having problems selling the darn things.
That must be because Sherpa rocks, also.
;-)
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magazines was intended.
I got the Slik as my ancient one had leg locks that were really dead. I
realized the minute I unpacked it that this was not going to be a good
tripod but I had to have it immediately. I really should have sent it back,
but I felt guilty about returning something that didn't still look new. Dumb
mistake.
I took the plastic head off and it was okay for indoor work - ie where the
flash is faster than the wobble, but when I started taking it outside and
carrying it about, the legs started really loosening up.
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Randy Howard
tspa...@ncmaps.rr.com says...
> Much as I would like to say "yes" on "hose" it was a simple typo. Those
> magazines was intended.
I figured as much, but it struck me funny.
mcsalty
The locks on my Manfrotto are really alive. they talk to me, you know.....
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and buy the books..... and starts the problems
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