Severe vignetting and nature photography
mike II
sit on a park bench to relax and that is when the problem starts. This
old geezer sits next to me and starts with the stories. "Why, when I was
young, there were glass plates in those contraptions...", he says,
looking at my "new fangled doodad". He keeps ON and ON and ON. "I can
spell daguerreotype, ya know! I learnt it back in '29" he continues..
What can I do to stop this incessant vignetting? Pulling a camera bag
over his head may give him a heart attack and it's the only bench for
miles.
mike II
Joseph Meehan
has nothing to do with photography or you.
--
Joseph E. Meehan
26 + 6 = 1 It's Irish Math
"mike II" <ow...@look.ca> wrote in message news:3DCB2DEE...@look.ca...
Neuman - Ruether
wrote:
Appreciate the stories - he's giving you direct
access to a period soon gone... Ask questions - you
might learn something...;-)
David Ruether
rp...@cornell.edu
http://www.ferrario.com/ruether
Hey, check out www.visitithaca.com too...!
T. P.
>
>What can I do to stop this incessant vignetting? Pulling a camera bag
>over his head may give him a heart attack and it's the only bench for
>miles.
You've been going to the same place for too long.
Find another park.
General Tsao
it (preferably with a nice, long and fast L series telephoto attached).
Who says all-metal bodes are overkill?
mike II (ow...@look.ca) wrote:
: There is a local park where I frequently take pictures. After a while, I
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Vandit Kalia
<this space for rent>
Joseph Meehan
Enjoy the stories, also remember that some day that might be me there so let
him enjoying telling the stories.
--
Joseph E. Meehan
26 + 6 = 1 It's Irish Math
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Aaron Ng
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> Do you have an all-metal body? You may try clubbing him on the head with
> it (preferably with a nice, long and fast L series telephoto attached).
>
> Who says all-metal bodes are overkill?
>
Isn't "all-metal body" and "fast L" telephoto not meant to be in the same
sentence? Or are you referring to FD? ;-)
Aaron
Pudentane
You might try what my daddy used to tell me, "Keep your ears open and
your mouth shut; you might learn something."
For starters, you might actually learn what vignetting means.
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These are MY opinions. No one else is to blame.
Bruce Murphy
> mike II wrote:
> >
> > There is a local park where I frequently take pictures. After a while, I
> > sit on a park bench to relax and that is when the problem starts. This
> > old geezer sits next to me and starts with the stories. "Why, when I was
> > young, there were glass plates in those contraptions...", he says,
> > looking at my "new fangled doodad". He keeps ON and ON and ON. "I can
> > spell daguerreotype, ya know! I learnt it back in '29" he continues..
> >
> > What can I do to stop this incessant vignetting? Pulling a camera bag
> > over his head may give him a heart attack and it's the only bench for
> > miles.
>
> You might try what my daddy used to tell me, "Keep your ears open and
> your mouth shut; you might learn something."
>
> For starters, you might actually learn what vignetting means.
Of course, what you just fell into was a literary pit trap. He knows
exactly what it means, and he is using it correctly. Perhaps you should
check a decent (ie not american) dictionary)
B>
mike II
> check a decent (ie not american) dictionary
two peoples separated by a common language?
shaw II
T. P.
No, it's three, and counting.
NickC
American Heritage Dictionary:-
vi0gnette (v*n-yRt2) n.
1. A decorative design placed at the beginning or end of a book or
chapter of a book or along the border of a page.
2. An unbordered picture, often a portrait, that shades off into the
surrounding color at the edges.
3.a. A short, usually descriptive literary sketch. b. A short scene or
incident, as from a movie.
—vi0gnette tr.v. vi0gnet0ted, vi0gnet0ting, vi0gnettes.
1. To soften the edges of (a picture) in vignette style.
2. To describe in a brief way. [French, from Old French, diminutive of
vigne, vine (from the use of vine tendrils in decorative borders). See VINE.]
What's different in "Roo" language, Bruce?
Nick
General Tsao
: Isn't "all-metal body" and "fast L" telephoto not meant to be in the same
: sentence? Or are you referring to FD? ;-)
Trouble-maker! Just for that, the Camera Police are going to be clubbing
you next!
:)
Bruce Murphy
> American Heritage Dictionary:-
*snort*
> vi0gnette (v*n-yRt2) n.
> 1. A decorative design placed at the beginning or end of a book or
> chapter of a book or along the border of a page.
> 2. An unbordered picture, often a portrait, that shades off into the
> surrounding color at the edges.
> 3.a. A short, usually descriptive literary sketch. b. A short scene or
> incident, as from a movie.
>
> =97vi0gnette tr.v. vi0gnet0ted, vi0gnet0ting, vi0gnettes.
> 1. To soften the edges of (a picture) in vignette style.
> 2. To describe in a brief way. [French, from Old French, diminutive of
> vigne, vine (from the use of vine tendrils in decorative borders). See VI=
> NE.]
>
> What's different in "Roo" language, Bruce?
Why don't you check a full OED and find out?
B>
Skip Middleton
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1. an ornamental or decorative design, usu. of relatively small size, on a
blank space in a book or among printed mater, esp. at the beginning or end
of a chapter or other division; spec. any embellishment, illustration, or
picture unenclosed in a border, or having the edges shading off into the
surrounding paper; the head-piece or end-piece of a book or article. b. An
ornamental design, drawing, or picture in a manuscript or written document.
1830 2. photographic portrait, showing only the head or the head and
shoulders, with the edges of the print shading off into the background. 1862
or
Vignette, v, 1853
To make a vignette of; spec in Photogr. (lacking their italics) to produce
(a picture or portrait) in the style of a vignette by softening away or
shading the edges, leaving only the central portion.
Since I don't have the Complete OED to hand, and I strongly suspect you
don't either, it's a pretty weighty tome, these are taken from the Oxford
Universal Dictionary.
It must be pretty quiet in that closed mind of yours, Bruce.
And I even bottom posted it so you'd have no excuses.
--
Skip Middleton
www.shadowcatcherimagery.com
Aaron Ng
Hmm.... 1200mm FD..... ouch!
Aaron
Bruce Murphy
> Vignette (vinyet, vinet), sb. 1751
> 1. an ornamental or decorative design, usu. of relatively small size, on a
> blank space in a book or among printed mater, esp. at the beginning or end
> of a chapter or other division; spec. any embellishment, illustration, or
> picture unenclosed in a border, or having the edges shading off into the
> surrounding paper; the head-piece or end-piece of a book or article. b. An
> ornamental design, drawing, or picture in a manuscript or written document.
> 1830 2. photographic portrait, showing only the head or the head and
> shoulders, with the edges of the print shading off into the background. 1862
>
> or
>
> Vignette, v, 1853
> To make a vignette of; spec in Photogr. (lacking their italics) to produce
> (a picture or portrait) in the style of a vignette by softening away or
> shading the edges, leaving only the central portion.
>
> Since I don't have the Complete OED to hand, and I strongly suspect you
> don't either, it's a pretty weighty tome, these are taken from the Oxford
From the complete Oxford:
1. a. An ornamental or decorative design on a blank space in a
book or among printed matter, esp. at the beginning or end of a
chapter or other division, usually one of small size or occupying a
small proportion of the space; spec. any embellishment, illustration,
or picture uninclosed in a border, or having the edges shading off
into the surrounding paper; a head-piece or tail-piece. Cf. [5]VINET
2.
<snipped usages>
b. An ornamental design, drawing, or picture in a manuscript or
written document.
<snipped usages>
2. a. A photographic portrait, showing only the head or the head
and shoulders, with the edges of the print shading off into the
background
<snipped usages>
b. A brief verbal description of a person, place, etc.; a short
descriptive or evocative episode in a play, etc.
<guess what, snipped usages>
3. (See quot.) Obs. {em} 1
1790 BRUCE Trav. I. Introd. p. ix, Vignettes, or little ornamental
shrubs, which generally hang from and adorn the projections and edges
of the several members [of ruined architecture], are finely expressed.
4. attrib. in various senses, as vignette head, moulding, view,
etc.
2 b. was the important one.
B>
Doug Payne
> Since I don't have the Complete OED to hand, and I strongly suspect you
> don't either, it's a pretty weighty tome, these are taken from the Oxford
> Universal Dictionary.
> It must be pretty quiet in that closed mind of yours, Bruce.
> And I even bottom posted it so you'd have no excuses.
Before closing your own mind, see 2b.
vignette (vI'njet), (vI'net), sb.
1 a An ornamental or decorative design on a blank space in a book or
among printed matter, esp. at the beginning or end of a chapter or other
division, usually one of small size or occupying a small proportion of the
space; spec. any embellishment, illustration, or picture uninclosed in a
border, or having the edges shading off into the surrounding paper; a
head-piece or tail-piece.
Cf. VINET 2.
b An ornamental design, drawing, or picture in a manuscript or written
document.
2 a A photographic portrait, showing only the head or the head and
shoulders, with the edges of the print shading off into the background.
b A brief verbal description of a person, place, etc.; a short
descriptive or evocative episode in a play, etc.
3 (See quot.) Obs.[-1]
4 attrib. in various senses, as vignette head, moulding, view, etc.
vignette (vI'njet), (vI'net), v.
1 a trans. To make a vignette of; spec. in Photogr., to produce (a
picture or portrait) in the style of a vignette by softening away or
shading off the edges, leaving only the central portion.
b To take in or introduce as a vignette.
2 Optics. To modify so as to give rise to vignetting of an image.
Hence vi'gnetted ppl. a.
Skip Middleton
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Skip Middleton
there is a great difference in definitions between those of the American
dictionary and the Oxford. My mind is open on the subject, it is just that
Bruce has an obsession about denigrating anything American.
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NickC
The important one being 2b, as you noted, is about the same as what is
contained in the American Dictionary as 3.a. A short, usually
descriptive literary sketch. b. A short scene or incident, as from a
movie.
Nick
NickC
Doug Payne wrote:
>
> Skip Middleton wrote:
>
> > Since I don't have the Complete OED to hand, and I strongly suspect you
> > don't either, it's a pretty weighty tome, these are taken from the Oxford
> > Universal Dictionary.
> > It must be pretty quiet in that closed mind of yours, Bruce.
> > And I even bottom posted it so you'd have no excuses.
>
> Before closing your own mind, see 2b.
Speaking of closing ones mind, how different is 2b from the American
Heritage Dictionary. Ref: 3.a. A short, usually descriptive literary
sketch. b. A short scene or incident, as from a movie.
Perhaps the definition of English should include: A common language
often misunderstood by those who suffer from the need to be pedantic.
pe0dan0tic (pú-dan2t*k) adj.
Characterized by a narrow, often ostentatious concern for book
learning and formal rules: a pedantic attention to details.
—pe0dan2ti0cal0ly adv.
os0ten0ta0tious (Äs1tRn-tE2shús, -tún-) adj.
Characterized by or given to ostentation; pretentious. See Synonyms at
showy. —os1ten0ta2tious0ly adv.
pre0ten0tious (pr*-tRn2shús) adj.
1. Claiming or demanding a position of distinction or merit,
especially when unjustified.
2. Making or marked by an extravagant outward show; ostentatious. See
Synonyms at showy. —pre0ten2tious0ly adv. —pre0ten2tious0ness n.
Nick
Doug Payne
> Speaking of closing ones mind, how different is 2b from the American
> Heritage Dictionary.
No idea - why would I use an American dictionary? I'm not American.
Doug Payne
> You misunderstand me, Doug, I'm not disputing the definition, only that
> there is a great difference in definitions between those of the American
> dictionary and the Oxford.
You're right, I did misunderstand; sorry 'bout that.
Skip Middleton
that there _wasn't_ much difference between the American dictionary and the
Oxford. It was my inability to make the point, not your ability to get it
that was at fault.
-- Skip Middleton
www.shadowcatcherimagery.com
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Andrew Mc
Pudentane
>
>
> 2. a. A photographic portrait, showing only the head or the head
> and shoulders, with the edges of the print shading off into the
> background
>
> <snipped usages>
>
> b. A brief verbal description of a person, place, etc.; a short
> descriptive or evocative episode in a play, etc.
>
>
> 2 b. was the important one.
And how exactly does "a BRIEF verbal description of a person, place,
etc.; a SHORT decriptive or evocative episode in a play, etc." reconcile
with "He keeps ON and ON and ON."
:mike II wrote:
:>
:> There is a local park where I frequently take pictures. After a
:> while, I sit on a park bench to relax and that is when the problem
:> starts. This old geezer sits next to me and starts with the stories.
:> "Why, when I was young, there were glass plates in those
:> contraptions...", he says, looking at my "new fangled doodad". He
:> keeps ON and ON and ON. "I can spell daguerreotype, ya know! I
:> learnt it back in '29" he continues..
:>
Pudentane
Whereas, MikeII describes something that is anything BUT short or brief.
> He keeps ON and ON and ON.
--
Pudentane
>
> Skip Middleton wrote:
>
> > Since I don't have the Complete OED to hand, and I strongly suspect you
> > don't either, it's a pretty weighty tome, these are taken from the Oxford
> > Universal Dictionary.
> > It must be pretty quiet in that closed mind of yours, Bruce.
> > And I even bottom posted it so you'd have no excuses.
>
> Before closing your own mind, see 2b.
>
> vignette (vI'njet), (vI'net), sb.
> 2
> b A brief verbal description of a person, place, etc.; a short
> descriptive or evocative episode in a play, etc.
> He keeps ON and ON and ON.
and
> What can I do to stop this incessant vignetting?
Do you consider that "A brief verbal description"
Pudentane
>
> You misunderstand me, Doug, I'm not disputing the definition, only that
> there is a great difference in definitions between those of the American
> dictionary and the Oxford. My mind is open on the subject, it is just that
> Bruce has an obsession about denigrating anything American.
And I'm saying that the action described does not meet the definition.
> He keeps ON and ON and ON.
>
> What can I do to stop this incessant vignetting?
--
Bruce Murphy
> And how exactly does "a BRIEF verbal description of a person, place,
> etc.; a SHORT decriptive or evocative episode in a play, etc." reconcile
> with "He keeps ON and ON and ON."
If there are a continual series of very brief description. If you read
Mike's text, it should be clear that that is what was being described.
B>
NickC
I am yet an American is expected to use the OED.
Nick
Bruce Murphy
*stares carefully at line*
Only if they claim to use English, granted I have no reason to believe
this applies in your case.
B>
Tony Parkinson
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> There is a local park where I frequently take pictures. After a
while, I
> sit on a park bench to relax and that is when the problem starts.
This
> old geezer sits next to me and starts with the stories. "Why, when I
was
> young, there were glass plates in those contraptions...", he says,
can
> spell daguerreotype, ya know! I learnt it back in '29" he
continues..
>
bag
> over his head may give him a heart attack and it's the only bench
for
> miles.
>
Joseph Meehan
news:aqn5l...@drn.newsguy.com......
>
> Perhaps take your grandfather elsewhere.
>
Maybe accept him as a substitute grandfather. I wish I had known my
grandparents, I never had the opportunity.
--
Joseph E. Meehan
26 + 6 = 1 It's Irish Math
NickC
Oh well, in the universal order of things, what you believe or
disbelieve is really unimportant.
Nick
mike II
> Hey, say hello to William fox-Talbot for me will you ?
Dear God! That's HIM!
http://www.r-cube.co.uk/fox-talbot/history.html
I'll apologize for the vigorous shaking I gave him the last time. I'll
return the teeth too...
mike II
Paul Repacholi
> NickC <n-c...@attbi.com> writes:
>
> > Doug Payne wrote:
> > >
> > > NickC wrote:
> > >
> > > > Speaking of closing ones mind, how different is 2b from the American
> > > > Heritage Dictionary.
> > >
> > > No idea - why would I use an American dictionary? I'm not American.
> >
> > I am yet an American is expected to use the OED.
>
> *stares carefully at line*
STOP IT! You'll go blind! :)
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