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Wyatt80

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Mar 4, 2003, 2:43:14 PM3/4/03
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Hi , i would like to learn proper lighting technique for group portraits. I
need info on how to use multiple flashes on umbrellas and proper lighting ,
posing etc..
Google search was too much info , any specific book or procedures would be
greatly appreciated.
I will be shooting D100 and using a 28DX flash. Should i buy 2 umbrellas and
2 flashes and a couple Nikon su-4 wireless remotes , OR buy lights on
umbrellas?
TIA- Rick

Bob Fowler

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Mar 4, 2003, 2:48:51 PM3/4/03
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"Wyatt80" <wya...@aol.com> wrote in message
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Start here:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0817435506/ref=pd_sim_books_1/
102-6071534-7928938?v=glance&s=books


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Tom

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Mar 4, 2003, 3:45:38 PM3/4/03
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"Bob Fowler" <sax...@superlink.net> wrote in message
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> "Wyatt80" <wya...@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:20030304144314...@mb-fk.aol.com...
> > Hi , i would like to learn proper lighting technique for group
portraits.
> I
> > need info on how to use multiple flashes on umbrellas and proper
lighting
> ,
> > posing etc..
> > Google search was too much info , any specific book or procedures would
be
> > greatly appreciated.
> > I will be shooting D100 and using a 28DX flash. Should i buy 2
umbrellas
> and
> > 2 flashes and a couple Nikon su-4 wireless remotes , OR buy lights on
> > umbrellas?
> > TIA- Rick
>
> Start here:
>
>
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0817435506/ref=pd_sim_books_1/
> 102-6071534-7928938?v=glance&s=books
>
>
> --
> Bob Fowler
> sax...@superlink.net


Er, Bob... you need to start HERE: http://makeashorterlink.com/index.php

Tom

Drew Saunders

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Mar 4, 2003, 4:02:20 PM3/4/03
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In article <20030304144314...@mb-fk.aol.com>,
wya...@aol.com (Wyatt80) wrote:

> Google search was too much info , any specific book or procedures would be
> greatly appreciated.

<http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bh4.sph/FrameWork.class?FNC=CatalogActivator
__Acatalog_html___CatID=1075___SID=F3F3F4C9A90>

or, go to <http://www.bhphotovideo.com/> and, under the departments list
on the left, choose "books and tutorials." There are several "lighting"
options, each with many books listed, each with a description. Haven't
used any though. When B&H sent out their lighting sourcebook, it had
several quotes from the Amphoto book "50 Portrait Lighting Techniques
for Pictures That Sell (Revised Edition)" which all seemed pretty good.

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Drew W. Saunders

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Tony Spadaro

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Mar 4, 2003, 7:48:20 PM3/4/03
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There are dozens of books on portrait techniques, which would be the most
efficient way to decide how you want to light and shoot them.

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KandCPhotography

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Mar 4, 2003, 11:02:08 PM3/4/03
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I once did a shoot with 2 SB-28s bounced on umbrelas, one attached to an SU-4
and the other to the SC-17 which was attatched to the camera. The number of
people on the pictures ranged from 13 to 3, I set both flashes on TTL and just
hoped for the best. I couldn't believe most of them came out perfectly
exposed. I tried different apertures just to make sure, ranging from f4 to f8.
By the way I used the 24mm and the 50mm. That was my first paying job and
sadly one of my better ones!
Hope that helps.
CC.

Wyatt80

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Mar 5, 2003, 2:00:56 AM3/5/03
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> I was leaning towards using the 17-35 and a 28dx and a sb 26 .
I have to check out the books reccomended by the rest of contributors , thanks
again.
Rick
>
>
>


Bob Fowler

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Mar 5, 2003, 9:59:42 AM3/5/03
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"Tom" <seaska...@removethis.yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> Er, Bob... you need to start HERE: http://makeashorterlink.com/index.php
>
> Tom

Oops! Thanks for the link!

Bob

Bob Kirkpatrick

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Mar 5, 2003, 1:00:45 PM3/5/03
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wya...@aol.com (Wyatt80) wrote in message news:<20030304144314...@mb-fk.aol.com>...

Serious lighting is a continuum from a simple flash to large setups
involving eight or more lights and various modifiers. Start at the
beginning and work your way up as you perceive a need.

Although you can read a lot about this, most books just tell you what
a particular pro does. Your requirements may differ.

1. Start with one light.

2. Small light sources yield sharp, dark, shadows.

3. What people like for themselves, as opposed to what
artists/photographers like is straight on lighting from a broad source
(umbrella / softbox) placed directly above the camera. Firing the
SB28DX backwards into a medium sized umbrella under TTL control should
work just fine. Use Portra 400NC if you need extra range. There are
inexpensive brackets to mount a flash and umbrella to a small light
stand. You'll want an SC-17 to remote your TTL connection to the
umbrella mounted SB28DX. Put your F100 on a tripod and keep the face
of the SB28DX behind the front edge of the lens.

4. Before you get a second light, get a good flash / ambient meter
like a Sekonic L-358. Manual control is the only way you'll know what
you are doing with multiple light setups and the only way to be able
to repeat your results.

5. Before you start messing with hair lights, off axis key lights,
fill lights, grazing lights, or accent lights, work on lighting the
background. Once you can predictably light a background which is far
enough from the subject to eliminate shadows and get the exposure
balance correct to get good separation between the subject and the
background, the rest will be pretty easy to add.

6. If you can see the bright face of a flash unit from where the front
of your lens is, you will get ghosts and flare. Use a deep lens hood
or better yet a flag (light blocking panel) to shade the camera from
the light unit.

Wyatt80

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Mar 6, 2003, 1:42:18 AM3/6/03
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WOW , thanks for all the info. I was only going to use the D100 , but i think
the F5 with Portra will be a good idea.
Alternating the two cameras and a seperate flash on a umbrella will be my
starting point. A flash meter is something i had not considered.

This portrait is going to be for a friend so it will be a learning experience ,
not a profit job. Eventually i want to end up with a 16x20 either digital or
film.
Thanks again !

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