Cartier-Bresson did all his portraits with a 50mm lens
ArtKramr
Arthur Kramer
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Kinon O'Cann
at a kid's soccer game with that setup. ;-)
Wait! He only used a 50 because he used Leica, and that's all he could
afford! Yeah, that's the ticket.
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Photobob
In any case... distortion or not... they are all amazing.
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Leicaddict
think that's hard to shoot, take a look sometimes at HCB's ballet and dance
photos. Shot, available light, with a Leica RF and 50mm.
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JIM
Poor guy, bet he wanted to get out more.........
Jim
Kinon O'Cann
Get it?
You would be interested in a kid's soccer, baseball, or whatever game if you
had a kid in the game. And my F100 with the 80-200 AF zoom beats the hell
out of an M6 in that situation. Or maybe you've spotted a small enclave of
Leica photographers at sporting events that I've missed?
BTW, was the ballet shot posed, a performance, a practice, or some other
predictable situation? I've never doubted the quality of his work, but he's
different from us, and was into photography for different reasons.
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McEowen
Actually, I don't believe this is true . . .
Martin Francis
date back.
I don't want to be like him, either.
--
"So I gave myself to God,
There was a pregnant pause
Before He said "Okay"
Now I spend my days
Turning tables round in Marks & Spencer
They don't seem to mind"
- Belle and Sebastian
Leicaddict
thought I saw a glimmer of intelligence. You're right, I was mistaken.
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RDKirk
artk...@aol.com says...
But he wasn't trying to do headshots with them.
--
RDKirk
"It's always socially unacceptable to be right too soon." -- RAH
Alan Browne
Cheers,
Alan
ArtKramr
Yes he was and published a 200 page book of his portraits, all magnificent.
DM
> That is all Bresson used for his portraits. A 50mm lens.
Poor chap. If he wanted more lenses he'd probably have had
to sell his house (if he owned one). Going by the quality
of his images, he might as well have used a cheaper range-
finder.
Bruce Murphy
> Yeah, that's what interests me, a stupid kids soccer game. YAWN! If you
> think that's hard to shoot, take a look sometimes at HCB's ballet and dance
> photos. Shot, available light, with a Leica RF and 50mm.
I think a fundamental difference is that there clearly isn't an
enormous uncrossable field surrounding your typical dancers.
Of course, when all you have is a Leica with a crap 50mm lens, I guess
everything looks like a nail, or a Bresson picture, or merely crazily
tilted, or something.
B>
Leicaddict
between blowing your nose and wiping your ass?
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Leicaddict
intellect doing the judging is so mundane?
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Ivan
with no soul, no emotion. HCB is too good for them. Let's leave him out of
this, let's not dirty his name.
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Bruce Murphy
> Seriously, when you grab some toilet paper, can you tell the difference
> between blowing your nose and wiping your ass?
How relevant, what a wonderful contribution to photographic knowledge,
how insightful.
Do we get some more of your photos as well?
B>
Lewis Lang
>From: artk...@aol.com (ArtKramr)
>Date: Sat, Mar 16, 2002 3:24 PM
>Message-id: <20020316102443...@mb-fx.aol.com>
>
>That is all Bresson used for his portraits. A 50mm lens.
>
>
>Arthur Kramer
Sorry Art, he mainly used the 50mm but also had a 35mm and a 90mm he carried
along too. I specifically remember a shot from the early '70's of a couple in
love making out? in a graveyard that was supposed to have been made w/ the 90mm
(the Leica version of the "Holy Trinity... of lenses").
Regards,
Lewis
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ArtKramr
>>
>>
>>Arthur Kramer
>
>Sorry Art, he mainly used the 50mm but also had a 35mm and a 90mm he carried
>along too. I specifically remember a shot from the early '70's of a couple in
>love making out? in a graveyard that was supposed to have been made w/ the
>90mm
>(the Leica version of the "Holy Trinity... of lenses").
>
>Regards,
>
>Lewis
>
>I've set (anti-spam) controls to allow in only people on my list. If you want
>to be on my list contact me through the newsgroup. I regret the
>inconvenience.
>Thanks.
>
>Check out my photos at "LEWISVISION":
>
>http://members.aol.com/Lewisvisn/home.htm
>
That's not what he told me.
Kinon O'Cann
as ignorant as anyone here. Or maybe just another phony who claims to be a
knowledgable fan of the arts, but simply quotes from the headlines.
Drop dead, asshole.
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Kinon O'Cann
and resorts to insults in every response, even when you include an emoticon
to indicate attempted humor. What's his problem?
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John Stafford
> Yeah, that's what interests me, a stupid kids soccer game. YAWN!
Imagine Cartier-Bresson saying "Yea, that's what interests me, stupid
family picnic pictures, or some lady walking across a bridge. It's all
everyday crap!" Or Robert Frank saying "Oh, sure, another stupid,
everyday American (fill in the blank") ...or to be inclusive, any
photogapher who has done historically and esthetically interesting
picture.
Yer stuck in a box, Leicaddict. Maybe the one your camera came in.
Woodard R. Springstube
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> On 17 Mar 2002 12:19:50 GMT, artk...@aol.com (ArtKramr)
> wrote:
>
>>That's not what he told me.
>>
>>
> Gee Art
>
> Is there anybody you haven't met???
>
>
>
> *******************************************************
> *******************************************************
>
> X-No-Archive:yes
>
>
> Colyn Goodson
>
>
> col...@swbell.net
>
>
> Leica Camera/Lens Information
>
> http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Veranda/9472
>
Given that Art used to be a columnist for Modern Photography
(I still remember reading his column, "The View From
Kramer," while I was in college), I have no doubt that he did
meet HCB.
Woodard
Gordon Moat
he used a 50 mm mostly, and a 35 mm a few times (though not for
portraits). I could find no other reference that he ever used more than
two lenses, nor an SLR.
I do believe that all of his pre-WWII images are just 50 mm though. He
also sketched quite a bit, though that is not photography (obviously).
He also did not crop, preferring to compose in the entire frame. I find
his to be a very interesting way of seeing, and another valuable
technique to explore. I heard that he on a television interview, and he
stated that everywhere he went he saw like a camera; even when he did
not have one, he still envisioned the world like a camera. That is being
focused.
Ciao!
Gordon Moat
Alliance Graphique Studio
<http://www.allgstudio.com>
ArtKramr wrote:
> That is all Bresson used for his portraits. A 50mm lens.
>
> Arthur Kramer
ArtKramr
>
>>That's not what he told me.
>>
>>
>Gee Art
>
>Is there anybody you haven't met???
>
>
>
>*******************************************************
>*******************************************************
>
>X-No-Archive:yes
>
>
>Colyn Goodson
>
>
>col...@swbell.net
>
>
>Leica Camera/Lens Information
>
>http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Veranda/9472
>
Not many. That is the advantage of being very old. (grin)
ArtKramr
>(I still remember reading his column, "The View From
>Kramer," while I was in college), I have no doubt that he did
>meet HCB.
>
>Woodard
Many times. (grin)
ShadCat11
Arthur Kramer
Art, what did he tell you? If it was in re what focal length lens(es) he
preferred, was it applied to general photography or to portraiture in
particular? I have seen photographs of his definitely taken with WA and tele
lenses, although very few and not portraits, and I saw a photo of him squinting
through a Leica universal finder atop his III F. Although the lens attached
was a 50 mm, a multiple frame accessory finder implies other lenses in the kit,
I believe.
When I was starting out in photography, HCB was a great inspiration to me and a
true member of the Pantheon. I would be keenly interested in what you might
remember of your meetings with him.
Allen Zak
Alan Browne
1) He posts good to really good photos.
2) People say so, and add constructive comments which he takes a slurs against
him.
3) He goes bananas in spades.
On other subjects if you say something that is off base (to him), you are
instant cannon fodder.
Cheers,
Alan
Kinon O'Cann wrote:
--
Lert's live longer.
Be A Lert.
Alan Browne
Yes, you will get the opportunity to see his lovely photos. They are quite
good. And you can make constructive comments. And he will hate you and
revile you for them.
We really are not up to Leicaddicts level. We can only hope to reach it one
day.
Cheers,
Alan
Bruce Murphy wrote:
--
Mike Elek
environment. So his photos went beyond the standard "head shot."
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> That is all Bresson used for his portraits. A 50mm lens.
>
>
> Arthur Kramer
Leicaddict
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Leicaddict
Blues?" Now if you're a real Robert Frank fan, then you've certainly seen
this series, right? Or are you just pulling names out of a hat?
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Leicaddict
whatever, and try to see it the same way HCB might, instead of trying to
hide behind this phony, "Oh, I'm so innocent," demeanor. The other thing is,
why should I do your homework, you lazy sod? If you want the answers to
those questions, do your own homework. Their are several Internet sites that
have HCB photos and information. Plus a number of his monograms are back in
print. But maybe all you're good for is shooting off your fat lip.
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John Stafford
> Poor chap. If he wanted more lenses he'd probably have had
> to sell his house (if he owned one). Going by the quality
> of his images, he might as well have used a cheaper range-
> finder.
I'm not sure there was an adequate cheaper rangefinder then. But the
spirit of your comment has some merit. CB was not a technician in
_any_ sense of the word, and he made no bones about it. I think it is
safe to say that he'd have no interest in Liecaddict's penchant for
the camera. CB might opt for an autofocus point and shoot.
John Stafford
> That's not what he told me.
Subtle, and to the point. "Being There" is everything, and living
long enough to help the rest of us is a treasure for us, Art. Thanks.
Back to this "interesting subject" issue. I was shooting a hometown
version of the Soap Box Derby in a southern Chicago neighborhood for a
newspaper assignment once, I think it was 1971, maybe 72. I was
struggling to get the images which would make a full page spread (Yes,
we did those things once upon a time). The effort in that regard
requires a specific approach and I was working very hard at it, but in
the back of my young mind was "What a stupid, ordinary assignment." Of
course, I was wrong.
There was an older gentleman there making pictures in a more casual
manner, but taking a lot of pictures so I thought "Maybe he isn't just
some participants grandfather." When I stood back for a break the
man spoke to me. It was Alfred Eisenstadt. He said "Eisie" (pardon if
I did not spell that properly.)
There are no ordinary moments, only ordinary perceptions of them. Time
is the essence of photography. May you all live long enough to
appreciate it.
ArtKramr
>spirit of your comment has some merit. CB was not a technician in
>_any_ sense of the word, and he made no bones about it. I think it is
>safe to say that he'd have no interest in Liecaddict's penchant for
>the camera. CB might opt for an autofocus point and shoot.
>
Bresson was a visual addict, not a camera addict.
nigel
> environment. So his photos went beyond the standard "head shot."
I use a Simrad IS2000 coupled to an 84mm Carl Gustaf for "head
shots", That certainly mixes the subject with the environment! much
better than a ropey old licker
Photobob
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> Yeah, that's what interests me, a stupid kids soccer game. YAWN! If you
> think that's hard to shoot, take a look sometimes at HCB's ballet and
dance
> photos. Shot, available light, with a Leica RF and 50mm.
>
>
> "Kinon O'Cann" <fu...@bout.it> wrote in message
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> > Yeah, but he was an artist. I'd like to see what kind of pix he could
take
> > at a kid's soccer game with that setup. ;-)
> >
> > Wait! He only used a 50 because he used Leica, and that's all he could
> > afford! Yeah, that's the ticket.
> >
> > "ArtKramr" <artk...@aol.com> wrote in message
> > news:20020316102443...@mb-fx.aol.com...
> > > That is all Bresson used for his portraits. A 50mm lens.
> > >
> > >
Photobob
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> If you're that ignorant, and illiterate , why bother? For a minute there,
I
> thought I saw a glimmer of intelligence. You're right, I was mistaken.
>
> "Kinon O'Cann" <fu...@bout.it> wrote in message
Photobob
Photobob
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> Whatever you do, don't think! As always, you're behind the eight-ball.
>
> "Photobob" <bob_remove_to_...@attbi.com> wrote in message
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> > I thought he used a 35mm for the famous Picasso portrait and others?
> >
> > In any case... distortion or not... they are all amazing.
Photobob
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> Is it little wonder that HCB is judged so harshly by this group, when the
> intellect doing the judging is so mundane?
Kinon O'Cann
useless posts. This guy needs therapy.
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Kinon O'Cann
shot your dog. I'm interested in action shots on the field, not artistic
portraits. I cannot now, nor will I ever see like HCB, so what's your point,
you insulting moron? And, since you can't answer my simple question, and
hide behind the "I won't do your homework" bullshit, it's obvious that
you're just another bullshit artist who knows nothing, shoots from the hip,
and hopes people back down under the barrage of insults. From what I can
see, you know nothing except spewing hate in this group. And when it comes
to shooting off a fat lip, I'd be very glad to shoot of yours at my earliest
convenience.
In the future, please go fuck yourself. I don't have time for an asshole
like you. Welcome to my killfile.
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Kinon O'Cann
Mad Magazine? Or maybe your talents can be put to use for some pedophile
publication? Or is that too high brow for you?
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wiped my ass.
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Lewis Lang
>From: artk...@aol.com (ArtKramr)
>Date: Sun, Mar 17, 2002 12:19 PM
>Message-id: <20020317071950...@mb-fw.aol.com>
>
>>>That is all Bresson used for his portraits. A 50mm lens.
>>>
>>>
>>>Arthur Kramer
>>
>>along too. I specifically remember a shot from the early '70's of a couple
>in
>>love making out? in a graveyard that was supposed to have been made w/
>the
>>90mm
>>(the Leica version of the "Holy Trinity... of lenses").
>>
>>Regards,
>>
>>Lewis
>>
>>I've set (anti-spam) controls to allow in only people on my list. If you
>want
>>to be on my list contact me through the newsgroup. I regret the
>>inconvenience.
>>Thanks.
>>
>>Check out my photos at "LEWISVISION":
>>
>>http://members.aol.com/Lewisvisn/home.htm
>>
>
>
I guess it comes down to how you define the term "portrait" but these links
show that he did use other lenses for his photography:
<A
HREF="http://www.greenspun.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id=0069O0"
>Cartier-Bresson's Favorite Lens?</A>
<A HREF="http://www.photo.net/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=000t2Q">Henri
Cartier Bresson's technique, books and pr…</A>
Perhaps he used the 90mm/85mm and the 35mm usually for landscapes?
Lewis Lang
>Date: Mon, Mar 18, 2002 2:10 PM
>Message-id: <ef8b745.02031...@posting.google.com>
My plan is to outlive all my critics (that other wise sage, George Burns said
this). From the looks of things I have alot of outliving to do, LOL ;-) :-)
Lewis Lang
Gordon:
This is mostly true, however, at times, I believe it was the image of the man
leap frogging over the puddle shot, there was slight cropping (I forget whether
it was a building on the left and/or some processing defect that was the
motivation for cropping this one. Sorry, don't remember exactly where I read
this (probably either a book or a magazine article).
Lewis Lang
>Date: Mon, Mar 18, 2002 4:24 AM
>Message-id: <RZdl8.38778$1g.33...@bin3.nnrp.aus1.giganews.com>
>
>Cry me a river, baby
...and I'll paddle down it on my boat of tears? ;-) :-)
Gordon Moat
Henri Cartier-Bresson. In that issue was a photo of the original negative, next to
a print of that image. It is actually untitled, but often some publishers will
attribute a name to it.
As I remember it, the left side was slightly cropped to make it fit better to the
printing paper. The magazine may have further cropped it a bit to accommodate
their format.
The thing I found most interesting about that image was the painted dancer on the
wall. This created a nice rhythm in the image, and may be what prompted him to
take the shot.
<http://www.photology.com/bresson/Images/Foto28.jpg> small
<http://www.afterimage.com/bressonbehind.htm> slightly larger
Interesting how many shots of his are vertical. Perhaps relating to his painting
skills . . . .
Ciao!
Gordon Moat
Alliance Graphique Studio
<http://www.allgstudio.com>
Gordon Moat
example of rhythm.
<http://www.porto.art.br/bresson/euro/tumbs/41_tn.html>
Ciao!
Gordon Moat
Photobob
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> Seriously, when you grab some toilet paper, can you tell the difference
> between blowing your nose and wiping your ass?
>
> "Bruce Murphy" <pack...@rattus.net> wrote in message
> news:m24rjg9...@fuscipes.rattus.net...
> > "Leicaddict" <leica...@hotmail.com> writes:
> >
> > > Yeah, that's what interests me, a stupid kids soccer game. YAWN! If
you
> > > think that's hard to shoot, take a look sometimes at HCB's ballet and
> dance
> > > photos. Shot, available light, with a Leica RF and 50mm.
> >
> > I think a fundamental difference is that there clearly isn't an
> > enormous uncrossable field surrounding your typical dancers.
> >
> > Of course, when all you have is a Leica with a crap 50mm lens, I guess
> > everything looks like a nail, or a Bresson picture, or merely crazily
> > tilted, or something.
> >
> > B>
> >
>
>
DM
Not that I despise HCB's pictures or anything - some of his images
are superb, but if he was shooting today, I supposed he'd be at
home with something like the Ricoh GR-1V or a Rollei AFM35. His
Leicas gave him the ability to prefocus, and trip the shutter the
instant he pressed the button. No delay, etc. Both the Ricoh and the
Rollei do that - plus, auto exposure (aperture priority). The Ricoh
is pretty much silent.
bachch...@my-deja.com
Andrew
On 18 Mar 2002 06:00:06 -0800, jo...@stafford.net (John Stafford)
wrote:
>ihat...@hotmail.com (DM) wrote in message news:<c199b129.02031...@posting.google.com>...
>safe to say that he'd have no interest in Liecaddict's penchant for
Urban Fredriksson
ArtKramr <artk...@aol.com> wrote:
>>>That is all Bresson used for his portraits. A 50mm lens.
>>Sorry Art, he mainly used the 50mm but also had a 35mm and a 90mm he carried
>>along too. I specifically remember a shot from the early '70's of a couple in
>>love making out? in a graveyard that was supposed to have been made w/ the
>>90mm
>>(the Leica version of the "Holy Trinity... of lenses").
>That's not what he told me.
I think the key word here may be "portraits". Paraphrased,
what I recall him saying in an interview was
approximately: "Published photos: 50 mm whenever possible,
but sometimes indoors 35 mm is needed. 90 mm, yes; for
landscapes." I'm not sure that "sometimes indoors" and the
above description qualifies as "portraits", do they?
(And by the way, he's been photographed carrying a M5 with
a 21 (or 24?) mm lens -- but that doesn't mean anything
we've seen published was done with that combination. I've
never seen any of his paintings either.)
--
Urban Fredriksson http://www.canit.se/%7Egriffon/
A weapon is a device for making your enemy change his mind.
Lewis Lang
>"Published photos: 50 mm whenever possible,
>but sometimes indoors 35 mm is needed. 90 mm, yes; for
>landscapes." I'm not sure that "sometimes indoors" and the
>above description qualifies as "portraits", do they?
That all depends on what kind of photographs he took "sometimes indoors" and if
they were people photographs, whether you or more importantly he would consider
those people shots "portraits" (which usually gives associations of posing as
opposed to the candid style that he usually does/did) - it all depends on how
you/he/I define the word "portraits" :-)
In the end, it doesn't matter, either the photo is a good one or not whichever
lens was used. And who is to say that he didn't use the 35mm for people shots
if not portraits, he certainly used the 90mm for candids as evidenced by that
early 1970's shot of a loving couple making out in a Parisian cemetary. If HCB
carried three lenses he most likely used the other two (besides the 50mm) when
the situation required it, no matter what the subject matter. I don't see him
as an anal character about specific lens use, the 50mm just suited his vision
mostly, so he probably used it most of the time.
Webmarketing
angle. But Art will quickly explain that I really appreciate environmental
portraiture and would only make a head shot if requested (and paid) to do so
by the subject. I find formal portraiture pretty boring. Click on
http://63.151.138.197/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=8;t=000003 to
see some of the work of my favorite environmental portraitist. I think he's
Art's favorite as well. Good shooting.
Fred
Photo Forums
http://www.photoforums.net
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> That is all Bresson used for his portraits. A 50mm lens.
>
>
Paul Chefurka
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>My favorite lens for doing portraiture with a 35mm camera is the 35mm wide
>angle. But Art will quickly explain that I really appreciate environmental
>portraiture and would only make a head shot if requested (and paid) to do so
>by the subject. I find formal portraiture pretty boring. Click on
>http://63.151.138.197/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=8;t=000003 to
>see some of the work of my favorite environmental portraitist. I think he's
>Art's favorite as well. Good shooting.
Absolutely! He's one of my longtime favourites, too. Portraiture just
doesn't come any better than that as far as I'm concerned.
Paul
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> With you at the head of the pack, I might add. Who's publishing your work?
> Mad Magazine?
Bwahahahahaha!!! :):) ROTFLMAO!
Dilbertdroid2
photographer because he's a great photographer. But of course, if you think
buying a (fill in name of your favorite photographic penis substitute here)
will make you a great photographer, have at it. You can become like msxmaniac,
moving from one system to another, while never mastering any.
Lewis Lang
>Date: Mon, Apr 1, 2002 7:23 PM
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Only a 50mm lens will make you HCB (and some French D.N.A. covered with Grey
Poupon), not a 49mm and definitely not a 51mm lens! To be HCB you must change
your name, your D.N.A., use a time machine to go to all his favorite spots just
as he's about to take the picture and/but not before buying a 50mm f/1.5 Zeiss
Sonnar (sic? ;-)) and a Leica rangefinder (which must have identical serial
numbers to HCB's), load up w/ the same type film (Tri-x), pre-set all your
settings to focus at four meters (use red nail polish on your lens) and your
shutterspeed to 1/125 sec. at whatever aperture the lighting requires and
demand that reality bend to your every whim and need because you are very
French (and therefore very important and therefore very much an artiste') and
no small French fry since you are famous, and really, reality should know
better than to mess with you (very famous very French very Leicaesque
photographer who makes very excellent decisive moment street photographs on a
very excellent Leica rangefinder w/ his very excellent Zeiss Sonnar lens (take
that Leitz/Leica!)) and if reality doesn't bend like a pretzle to your every
whim and need because of your very verynesss you will have a temper tantrum
and/or have Mr. T (or is that Mrs. C. from "Happy Days"?) very berry bitch slap
reality upside its collapsing wave form function w/ a phone receiver that was
used in the 1-800-CALLCOLLECT tv commercials and that should teach it a very
real and very bery painful lesson indeed - very shouldn't it?!
"HCB clone" stands for "Holy Cow (that's a) Boring cliche'd street
photograph/er knockoff!"
John Stafford
> In fact he does, but it's still a Leica - the Minilux.
>
> Andrew
Thanks for that, Andrew. It is heartening to know.
John
Kelso Lundeen
> Yeah, but he was an artist. I'd like to see what kind of pix he could take
> at a kid's soccer game with that setup. ;-)
Maybe, I'm missing something, but do we really need any more photos of
"soccer games?"
Just take a video camera and be done with it.
Kelso Lundeen
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