Going to Spain: I have a 50mm, what next?
Matthew Culbreth
I'll be going to Spain with my wife for two weeks in early May. I've got a
Canon Rebel 2000 with the 50mm 1.8 Mark II. I'm going to pick up one other
lens for the trip, and I've be interested in what you folks think would be a
wise choice.
I'm pretty sure a wide angle is the proper choice. Canon's 24mm or 28mm
seem good values to me, but the 20mm is also interesting. I don't take too
many portrait pictures, besides of my wife, so I don't think a shorter
telephoto would be the best choice. I really want to hold it to two lenses
over there.
Thank a bunch! I look forward to seeing everybody's opinions.
Matt
Bud Cook
28 isn't quite wide enough for the tight confines of European cities and the
20 too often produces results that aren't as natural looking as the 24.
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greg
Matthew Culbreth wrote:
> Hello People,
>
> I'll be going to Spain with my wife for two weeks in early May. I've got a
> Canon Rebel 2000 with the 50mm 1.8 Mark II.
24mm prime would be a good choice. Or could also recommend a zoom. I'm not sure
what Canon offers but Nikon makes a compact lightweight 28-70 f3.5-4.5 which is
an excellent travel lens. Also their 24-120 offers a good range. Canon probably
has something similiar.
Graham Stewart
It's a nice, sharp, well built lens and by far my favourite :)
G
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Husband and Wife
>24mm prime would be a good choice.
I concur. 24mm is a great choice, 28 not being quite wide enough, and so or less giving a bit too
much line distortion.
Be aware that your filters are going to cost a bundle and you will prolly want a lens hood, which
should be specifically for very wide angle lenses. Anything that isn't listed as such will be a
problem at wide aperatures with vignetting.
Dave
Bill Jameson
>
> Hello People,
>
> I'll be going to Spain with my wife for two weeks in early May. I've got a
> Canon Rebel 2000 with the 50mm 1.8 Mark II. I'm going to pick up one other
> lens for the trip, and I've be interested in what you folks think would be a
> wise choice.
My choice would be the EF 28-135 IS, if you could afford it, about the same
price as a gray market EF 24 f/2.8 AND the EF 28 f/2.8.
I like prime lenses, I've got your 50mm and the EF 85 f/1.8 and the next
lens I get will probably be the EF 24 f/2.8. But for traveling, I like
zooms and the 28-135 IS is a good one and the IS is useful.
My 2 cents,
Bill Jameson
Tony Polson
> Having lived in and photographed much of Europe, I'd recommend the 24. The
> 28 isn't quite wide enough for the tight confines of European cities and the
> 20 too often produces results that aren't as natural looking as the 24.
This is excellent advice. I live in Europe and have recently returned
from a week's assignment in Spain, and would make the same
recommendation if a fixed focal length lens is the only option.
If a zoom lens can be considered I concur with the recommendation of a
Tokina 19-35mm from Graham Stewart elsewhere in the thread.
[Remember to get the latest model, definitely not the previous Tokina
19-35mm which is a rebadged Cosina. The only certain thing about this
lens is the disappointment that will surely follow its purchase.]
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Tony Polson
Durant Imboden
little on the bulky and heavy side for someone who's used to a 50mm lens,
though. The 24mm might be a better second lens for someone who doesn't mind
changing lenses.
.
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Mark Morgan
like the Canon 28-105.
As a second lens (were I limited to two) I'd consider a 20mm. At 20mm, it
is SIGNIFICANTLY wider than your 28 (28-105), and you'll have a very good
quality, versatile lens in the zoom for nearly everything else.
Personally...I'd think you could fit that extra 50 1.8 into just about any
bag (as a third lens)...as it is tiny and extremely light. It would come in
handy for low light situations where the zoom would fall short.
-mm
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John Bateson
28-105 and a noticably longer. However, take your 50mm for indoor available
light in places where they do not allow flash.
John Bateson
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will need.
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Tony Polson
> Your going to Spain? Leave the 50mm home and get a 28mm. That's all you
> will need.
Yes, Spain is the only country in Europe where you don't need a lens
longer than 28mm. In fact it is illegal to use one.
On entry to Spain you will be asked by Spanish Customs officers to
declare the focal length of any 35mm format SLR lenses you are carrying.
If they include anything of more than 28mm focal length, they will be
impounded for the duration of your stay. You can collect them at the
airport on the way home. Remember always to depart from the same
airport where you arrived, otherwise your lenses will not be returned to
you.
Recently the rules have been relaxed to allow photographers to use wide
angle zoom lenses with a longest focal length of 35mm. However the
photographer has to sign an affidavit confirming that the focal lengths
greater than 28mm will not actually be used.
You will be fined if found using lenses from 28-50mm and incarcerated
for lenses from 51-300mm. Use of a lens longer than 300mm carries the
death penalty.
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Tony Polson
Mark Morgan
I forgot that all the interior rooms in Spain are no more than 5 feet
across, and there are no animals, or small features that you might want to
isolate in a photo.
There are no people worth shooting portraits of, and since people look
better with huge noses anyway, 28mm is the best for a portrait...were you to
be foolish enough to want to shoot one.
There are only crowds of people in Spain, too, so to pick out one or two
interesting characters to fill a frame with would be misleading and
inaccurate.
28mm really IS all you need...
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Godfrey DiGiorgi
Tix (APS) which has the equivalent of a 35mm lens in 35mm format. I
found it to be an excellent single-lens choice for most of my picture
taking.
With an interchangeable lens camera, if I already had a 50, I'd probably
want to add a 24mm lens and maybe a 90mm, in that order. I generally
prefer single focal length lenses due to their speed, I don't like using
flash much.
Pictures from Salamanca are viewable at:
< http://www.bayarea.net/~ramarren/photostuff/mctb/index.htm >
I have a lot more but haven't gotten around to putting them up yet.
Godfrey
mcsalty
> You will be fined if found using lenses from 28-50mm and incarcerated
> for lenses from 51-300mm. Use of a lens longer than 300mm carries the
> death penalty.
>
I had a friend once who went to Majorca with a 500mm mirror lens. His corpse
fed a small family for the rest of the year.
(no, mr. polson, he was not a zombie)
Steve
I've often thought about sending some of my least favourite people to Spain
with large telephoto lenses....
Steve
Vagabond
suggest you get a 70-210 or 80-200 zoom of good quality in addition to
a wide angle lens.
Vagabond
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David Chien
Another cheapie good deal would be the 19-35mm Vivitar.
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Lewis Lang
>From: Tony Polson tony....@btinternet.com
>Date: Wed, Apr 25, 2001 3:03 AM
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What next?
"Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!"
"Call me when you have no class"
:-)
Regards (28mm is a telephoto boy/everything over 8mm in a lens is just a
special effect/fisheye lenses with chips in them taste almost as good as Arthur
Treachers Fish and Chips),
Lewis
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>Date: Wed, Apr 25, 2001 10:50 PM
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Badda bing badda boom! :-)
Lewis Lang
>Date: Thu, Apr 26, 2001 1:45 AM
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>Really? I've never been to Spain, but I've been to Oklahoma.
Is Oklahoma "OK"? :-)
Lewis Lang
>Date: Wed, Apr 25, 2001 3:55 AM
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>Oh ya!
>I forgot that all the interior rooms in Spain are no more than 5 feet
>across, and there are no animals, or small features that you might want
>to
>isolate in a photo.
>
>There are no people worth shooting portraits of, and since people look
>better with huge noses anyway, 28mm is the best for a portrait...were you
>to
>be foolish enough to want to shoot one.
>
>There are only crowds of people in Spain, too, so to pick out one or two
>interesting characters to fill a frame with would be misleading and
>inaccurate.
>
>28mm really IS all you need...
GMT is set by an atomic clock. I hear Spain's national standard the 28mm lens
is set by depth of Annika's fabulous frontal lobes (sorry, Annika, couldn't
resist!) :-)
Lewis Lang
>Date: Thu, Apr 26, 2001 6:25 AM
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>I wonder if Cokin has an "El Greco" filter?
Yes, its right before the Titian polarizer, the Picasso prismatic filter, the
Hockney Pear Blossom Polaroid filter, and the Van Gogh paint by numbers filter
in their 2001 catalog. I hear Muench (David? :-) is coming out with a sunset
filter that's a real "scream" - it was so popular I think they made a film out
of it too... and a sequel "Scream 2" :-) There's also a Mary Ellen Mark filter
that gives your subject a penetrating stare, sad eyes, and instantly converts
any color film to Tri-X ;-). There's an Avedon filter in which all backgrounds
are instant converted to white and turns any soft focus lens into a high
resolution large format optic that can see inside pores. For portraiture of
"facially challenged" subjects they have a "BASS-O-MATIC Freddy Krueger
'Nightmare On Main Street" filter that slashes pounds from any face instantly
as it rearranges and "beautifies" the features of any face, there's also the
David Lynch filter which plays strange repetitive music and has ants and
decomposing animals on the filter that puts color (usually green) back into the
cheeks of any subject, a Stanley Kubrick filter that makes any set look like it
was shot at Pinewood Studios or EMI in England and gives the effect of a long
slow tracking shot, the Tunic filter that will cause your subjects instantly to
throw away their clothes and pile on top of each other in front of any state's
city or national landmark, the Annie Liebovitz filter that will give your
subjects the uncontrollable urge to remove their shirts, paint themselves or
wrestle in the mud with Tom Arnold, the Lewis Lang filter that will turn any
homey family re-union into a 100 element multi-ordinate surreal conceptual
still-life featuring the favorite 20th century dictator of your choice ;-),
then again, there's always the best-selling brown paper bag with a smiley face
filter which doesn't attach to the lens but is worn over the subject's head,
its also great because its both a lunch bag, a desert topping a breakfast
cereal, a stool sample and instant plastic surgery and an inflatable gall
bladder implant all in one amazing product! But wait, when you call now and buy
five BASS-O-MATIC Freddy Krueger filters you'll get a set of 12 Monica L*winsky
commemorative Ginzu knives and this Friday the 13th blue stained T-shirt that
says "my other camera's a fabulous EOS1v" on the front and "Live free or
shop!" on the back just for ordering. Order now while supplies last and last
and last...! Operators are waiting to take your money, er, call now!
Lewis Lang
>Date: Wed, Apr 25, 2001 11:10 PM
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28mm? "Don't stand so close to me..." :-)
Michael J Hoffman
I almost exclusively use the 28mm focal length for travel and street
photography.
I have a friend who bought a camera with a 50mm lens several years back.
He's never added another lens in over 16,000 photographs.
Michael H
"My psychiatrist sent me for an MRI because she thinks I have a magnetic
personality."
mcsalty
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Lewis Lang
>Date: Mon, Apr 30, 2001 11:43 PM
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>has someone been giving you coffee?
No, why are you a Starbucks? ;-).
Campbell, Scott [QUAL:C923:EXCH]
were the 24mm
and 35mm. In fact I was switching between them so often that I am planning
to bite the bullet
and get the 17-35 2.8AFS. I was shooting mainly buildings and these lenses
were needed to
get the entire building in the frame. A few times I wished for a 20mm and I
made good use
of the 35-105 and 90mm lenses.
The Royal Palace does not allow flash. My little tabletop tripod saved the
day. I would also
suggest a few rolls of ISO400 film for this as many rooms are very dark.
The sun sets at about 9PM so there is plenty of time in the day for
photography. Around dusk,
the tabletop tripod again is very useful as you can rest it on buildings or
even brace it against
your clavicles and sternum.
Cheers,
Scott Campbell
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