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Alex Sirota

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Jan 5, 2004, 6:10:51 PM1/5/04
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Hi,
I've been searching the newsgroups for recommendations of a good
pro/advanced photography magazine and saw that
the "Professional Photographer" magazine is often recommended.
After searching the web, I discovered two different "Professional
Photographer" magazines, one in the US:
http://www.ppmag.com and one in the UK
http://www.professionalphotographer.co.uk.
Can someone comment on these magazines and recommend one of them?
Any other suggestions/opinions would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Alex

Bob Salomon

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Jan 5, 2004, 6:29:15 PM1/5/04
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In article <3ff9ef13$1...@news.bezeqint.net>,
"Alex Sirota" <ale...@hotmail.com> wrote:

The US magazine is published by The Professional Photographers
Association. It is free with your membership to the PPA organization. It
is heavily weighted towards wedding and portrait photographers. The PPA
organization is located in Atlanta, GA.

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stan

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Jan 5, 2004, 7:21:10 PM1/5/04
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Alex Sirota wrote:

As pointed out Professional Photographer is the magazine of the
Professional Photographers of America. It is pretty much devoted to the
business of people photography. It does come as part of membership, but
you used to be able to buy it without the membership. Try www.ppa.com.
I have only looked at the UK Professional Photographer on several
occasions. It isn't a common item in most places in the states. What
type of photography are you interested in? Maybe neither meet your
needs.
Stan
Visual Arts Photography

Tony Spadaro

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Jan 5, 2004, 8:03:19 PM1/5/04
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What branch of the photography profession are you in. The US mag you
mention is about school, portrait and wedding photography. If this is not
your field it ain't your magazine either and I believe you only get it (and
can't get rid of it) by joining the association that puts it out.
If you do advertising, especially clothing, PDN would be a more relevant
magazine and there may be other mags out there. For photojournalism I would
start with Rob Galbraith's website and see what they recommend, etc.

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Alex Sirota

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Jan 6, 2004, 2:46:17 AM1/6/04
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"stan" <vis...@mc.net> wrote in message news:3FF9FF76...@mc.net...

>
> As pointed out Professional Photographer is the magazine of the
> Professional Photographers of America. It is pretty much devoted to the
> business of people photography. It does come as part of membership, but
> you used to be able to buy it without the membership. Try www.ppa.com.
> I have only looked at the UK Professional Photographer on several
> occasions. It isn't a common item in most places in the states. What
> type of photography are you interested in? Maybe neither meet your
> needs.
> Stan
> Visual Arts Photography
>

Stan,
Thanks for your comments.
I'm interested mostly in nature photography and photojournalism. So, I think
that the US magazine is out for me.
I need a magazine which discusses advanced techniques, photography as art,
workflow, serious equipment etc.
Is the UK mag more like it?
Thanks,
Alex


T P

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Jan 6, 2004, 7:20:40 AM1/6/04
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You didn't state your location, however the UK mag is excellent for
appraisals of UK and European market trends and opportunities. It is
focused away from photo gear and photo technique and firmly towards
the business of earning a living from photography. It is certainly
*not* the magazine for an advanced amateur.

The best UK magazine for that market is the "British Journal of
Photography", whose articles are short on appeal to a working
photographer who needs to pay the mortgage but long on appeal to those
amateur wannabes who think that their ownership of "pro gear" makes
them more than the rank amateurs they really are.

Neither of these magazines would be particularly relevant to anyone
living in the USA. The gear might be the same, but the market
conditions differ so markedly that advice given for one territory
would be unlikely to translate to the other.


Dallas

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Jan 6, 2004, 11:30:19 AM1/6/04
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T P said:

> The best UK magazine for that market is the "British Journal of
> Photography", whose articles are short on appeal to a working photographer
> who needs to pay the mortgage but long on appeal to those amateur wannabes
> who think that their ownership of "pro gear" makes them more than the rank
> amateurs they really are.

Define "amateur".
Define "pro gear".

Some "rank amateurs" I know using the most fundamental equipment have
produced photographs that are infinitely better than anything you have
ever produced, or are likely to produce in the remainder of your miserable
life.

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Jeremy

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Jan 6, 2004, 1:45:45 PM1/6/04
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> T P said:
>
> > The best UK magazine for that market is the "British Journal of
> > Photography", whose articles are short on appeal to a working
photographer
> > who needs to pay the mortgage but long on appeal to those amateur
wannabes
> > who think that their ownership of "pro gear" makes them more than the
rank
> > amateurs they really are.

Oh, so THAT's where he gets his information!

Too bad he possesses no equipment of his own--then he'd be out "shooting 50
rolls a day," rather than stalking people all over the internet.

Given his heavy travel schedule, as outlined on other NGs, one wonders how
he has the time to photograph?


Gordon Moat

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Jan 6, 2004, 2:58:51 PM1/6/04
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Alex Sirota wrote:

> "stan" <vis...@mc.net> wrote in message news:3FF9FF76...@mc.net...
> >
> > As pointed out Professional Photographer is the magazine of the
> > Professional Photographers of America. It is pretty much devoted to the
> > business of people photography. It does come as part of membership, but
> > you used to be able to buy it without the membership. Try www.ppa.com.
> > I have only looked at the UK Professional Photographer on several
> > occasions. It isn't a common item in most places in the states. What
> > type of photography are you interested in? Maybe neither meet your
> > needs.
> > Stan
> > Visual Arts Photography
> >
>
> Stan,
> Thanks for your comments.
> I'm interested mostly in nature photography and photojournalism. So, I think
> that the US magazine is out for me.

At least that one. There are two widely circulated professional photography
magazines in the US, which are PDN (Photo District News) and Picture Magazine.
Both are more oriented towards the working photographer. There is little about
gear in either, but many features and interviews with working photographers.
PDN often has lighting set-ups explained in detail. The imagery in both is
often of high quality, and some issues are oriented towards photojournalism.

Nature Photography is better covered in Outdoor Photography magazine. That is
more of a gear magazine, and explains many techniques. There are less
professional work issues discussed than in PDN or Picture.

>
> I need a magazine which discusses advanced techniques, photography as art,
> workflow, serious equipment etc.
> Is the UK mag more like it?

The one you mentioned is available in the US, and I have a few issues. It is
much more gear oriented. Another one that impressed me was Practical
Photographer, especially since they cover some medium format gear.

>
> Thanks,
> Alex

Ciao!

Gordon Moat
Alliance Graphique Studio
<http://www.allgstudio.com>


Alex Sirota

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Jan 6, 2004, 4:28:26 PM1/6/04
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> The one you mentioned is available in the US, and I have a few issues. It
is
> much more gear oriented. Another one that impressed me was Practical
> Photographer, especially since they cover some medium format gear.

I didn't manage to locate the Practical Photographer magazine on the Web (I
used to subscribe to Practical Photography though).
Do you know the Web address (or some other contact point) of this magazine?


stan

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Jan 6, 2004, 7:37:36 PM1/6/04
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Alex Sirota wrote:

Alex, I don't think either of these magazines will fill the bill for you. As
mentioned Outdoor Photographer is a great magazine for Nature shooters. Photo
District News (PDN) is a magazine out of New York that is for working pros. The
information is geared towards making money, workflow, trends and a lot more. It
is a very well done magazine and worth the price of admission if you do
photography for a living ($88 US for UK subscription) I'm still not convinced
that for the nature photographer PDN is useful, but pick up a copy and see. Or
check it out at www.pdnonline.com. It does have some wonderful photography. The
Professional Photographer magazine from the PPA will not be a bit useful for
nature shooters. Good Luck
Stan
Visual Arts Photography

Gordon Moat

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Jan 6, 2004, 10:32:23 PM1/6/04
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Alex Sirota wrote:

I think that <http://www.practicalphotography.co.uk> should put you at the
right place.

Bandicoot

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Jan 6, 2004, 10:24:07 PM1/6/04
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> The
> Professional Photographer magazine from the PPA will not be a bit useful >
for nature shooters. Good Luck

"The Photographer" is the equivalent magazine from the BIPP - it has more
'gear' articles than most similar 'association' magazines, though they are
few and light relative to most of the news-stand type mag.s. I like it, and
there are some superb images. Much less concentration on weddings and
portraits than similar mag.s too.

Peter


Tony Parkinson

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Jan 7, 2004, 6:03:33 AM1/7/04
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"Gordon Moat" <mo...@attglobal.net> wrote in message
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> Alex Sirota wrote:
>
> > > The one you mentioned is available in the US, and I have a few issues.
It
> > is
> > > much more gear oriented. Another one that impressed me was Practical
> > > Photographer, especially since they cover some medium format gear.
> >
> > I didn't manage to locate the Practical Photographer magazine on the Web
(I
> > used to subscribe to Practical Photography though).
> > Do you know the Web address (or some other contact point) of this
magazine?
>
> I think that <http://www.practicalphotography.co.uk> should put you at the
> right place.
>
That will probably put him at the right place for things like user
demographics, brand values, advertising rates and such like, but for content
related stuff he may do better at http://www.ephotozine.com/pp/

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Gordon Moat

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Jan 7, 2004, 1:47:08 PM1/7/04
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Tony Parkinson wrote:

Ahh . . . much better. I did not know about that link to the magazine.

Tony Parkinson

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Jan 7, 2004, 2:46:44 PM1/7/04
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"Gordon Moat" <mo...@attglobal.net> wrote ...

> Tony Parkinson wrote:
> > That will probably put him at the right place for things like user
> > demographics, brand values, advertising rates and such like, but for
content
> > related stuff he may do better at http://www.ephotozine.com/pp/
>
> Ahh . . . much better. I did not know about that link to the magazine.
>
Given the way PP has gone downhill over the last few years, one could almost
say "Lucky You !"

8^)

Gordon Moat

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Jan 8, 2004, 6:45:25 PM1/8/04
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Tony Parkinson wrote:

> "Gordon Moat" <mo...@attglobal.net> wrote ...
> > Tony Parkinson wrote:
> > > That will probably put him at the right place for things like user
> > > demographics, brand values, advertising rates and such like, but for
> content
> > > related stuff he may do better at http://www.ephotozine.com/pp/
> >
> > Ahh . . . much better. I did not know about that link to the magazine.
> >
> Given the way PP has gone downhill over the last few years, one could almost
> say "Lucky You !"
>
> 8^)

Sad, but true. However, amongst the gear labs, the only semi-regular one I pick
up is Réponses Photo, which is not in English. One thing that got me interested
in Practical Photographer, was the interesting images. It is also nice that
they at least gloss over medium format gear, and some accessories, including
showing what some accessories will do.

However, like all gear mags, at the end of the day, it is too much of a sales
brochure. I still think the OP of this thread might find some useful things in
there, like the filters issue, the B/W issues, flash shooting ideas, and some
other basic technical information. Once firmly rooted in those aspects, then it
would be time to move on to non-gear oriented magazines.

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