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street shooter

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Nov 3, 2003, 11:52:01 AM11/3/03
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These are my opinions on the photographs from this week's shoot-in.
Please accept them with a very large grain of salt. Here goes:


Gary Ashton-Coulton

Very moody. I like the high key lighting. You've captured just
enough of the scene to place the subject's in an environmental
context, and also composed so that the two figures are the dominant
subject matter. In my opinion, this week's best image.


Bret Douglas

Love the macro! The composition is simple and straightforward, and
the exposure is right on the money. Nice work.


Jim Kramer

I like the conceptual take on the theme. I'd have liked it better if
you could have shot the scene with strong directional light
illuminating one side more than the other. The directional light
around sunrise or sunset would also have been softer and more pleasing
overall. Still, an interesting idea behind the image.


Carbuff

Is that a new 20 next to an old 20? Whatever the case, interesting
photograph.


Steve Kramer

Good use of fill-flash to balance the foreground with the strongly
backlighted background. I'm not a big fan of wildlife photography,
but your technique is beyond reproach.


Joseph Kewfi

I think your image fits the theme. I don't like the composition. The
background is too strongly split. The facial expression appears
contrived to the point that it needs the caption "Say Cheese". A
fleeting moment when the bay was not aware that you were photographing
would have been more desirable. The highlight on the boy's face is
too strong.


Richard Cockburn

First, welcome aboard! A good representation of the theme. I'd have
preferred a more balanced composition vis-a-vis camera-to-subject
distance for both fighters; that would also have eliminated the strong
flash on the boxer on the left. For this type of composition equal
space behind each of the fighters would have been better.


Vic Mason

This is an interesting image. I like the pano composition, and I
usually HATE pano. I think the flag is a bit of a confusing element
in this composition. It would have been better with more flag or none
at all.


Parv

For me, this image does not fit the theme. The players are not
face-to-face, and neither is the photographer face-to-face with the
players. This is an obvious telephoto shot which is completely in
opposition to the intent of the assignment. The overlapping position
of the players in combination with the telephoto compression makes for
a displeasing composition in general.


Bowser

You've photographed the theme well. The background is cluttered and
the lighting is too harsh. Definitely face-to-face. You're from
Boston?


Michael Stevens

This is one of my favorite images for this assignment. The foreground
blur works well. I wish the girl's face had been turned slightly more
toward the camera, or even just her eyes making contact with the lens
would have been dynamic. Nice job!


Dallas Dahms

Very good image. I like the "Kilroy" pose. The split (almost 50/50
light and dark) background bothers me a bit. I'm wondering if the
photo would have been better if the boy had been posititoned slight
more to the viewer's right, so as to center both subjects. I'm not
sure if that would be better, just wondering. A very good photograph!


Charlie Dilks

Hey, neighbor! Very interesting image. I generally do not like
critter shots, but then you don't see many done with a wide angle.
This photograph is unique, interesting and appropriate for the theme.
Dynamic!


Glenn Travis

I like the subject matter, and the image fits the theme well. A
composition with McCurry to one side of the image and either of the
portraits of Sharbat over his shoulder would have been very bold. So,
did you cull any advice from the master?


Alan Browne

It certainly is face-to-face. I think the composition is way too
busy, and the flash is too strong on the foreground subject.


Nick James

I like the conceptual approach. Is the lower, right corner torn or
just very underexposed? I have seen the top of the mountain, and it
is good.


Simon Stanmore

This is another of my favorites from this assignment. The focus is
right on (difficult to do if this is a self portrait). The lighting
is dramatic, and the theme is captured well. Very, very nice!


Michael Hoffman

Upon closer inspection, I don't care for the doughnut box in the
background, and I think the plate hits the bottom of the frame
awkwardly. The bright light coming through the storm door is also a
little distracting. I think the theme of the assignment is evidenced
nicely.

Dallas

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Nov 3, 2003, 2:46:04 PM11/3/03
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street shooter said:

> Dallas Dahms
>
> Very good image. I like the "Kilroy" pose. The split (almost 50/50
> light and dark) background bothers me a bit. I'm wondering if the
> photo would have been better if the boy had been posititoned slight
> more to the viewer's right, so as to center both subjects. I'm not
> sure if that would be better, just wondering. A very good photograph!

Thanks very much for the kind words, street.

When I took this I was more concerned about getting the manual focus right
than I was the composition. It's amazing how lazy auto-focus can make you.

Long live film!

Long live the Canon A1!

Michael Stevens

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Nov 3, 2003, 4:59:14 PM11/3/03
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On 3 Nov 2003 08:52:01 -0800, michael....@att.net (street
shooter) wrote:

>Michael Stevens
>http://www.pbase.com/image/22883941


>This is one of my favorite images for this assignment. The foreground
>blur works well. I wish the girl's face had been turned slightly more
>toward the camera, or even just her eyes making contact with the lens
>would have been dynamic. Nice job!

Thanks! This is actually my first test on a real person, the dog is
too scared of the 48" softboxes, of my new Alien Bee strobes and I'm
more than pleased with their performance.

I took some with a more forward face to it but the more my niece
turned towards me the less effect you got from the shallow DOF and the
blurred flute & fingers. I admit that I probably could have pulled it
off by I tend to go to the extreme and I really liked the extreme blur
of the foreground.

Mike


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Nick James

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Nov 3, 2003, 5:53:14 PM11/3/03
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street shooter wrote:
> These are my opinions on the photographs from this week's shoot-in.
> Please accept them with a very large grain of salt.

just a little seasoning :)

> Gary Ashton-Coulton


>
> In my opinion, this week's best image.

agreed


>
> Nick James
>
> I like the conceptual approach. Is the lower, right corner torn or
> just very underexposed? I have seen the top of the mountain, and it
> is good.
>

Thanks.
Just an underexposed part of another mountain I'm afraid. I've tried
cropping a little to remove the dark area but the image seemed to lose
something (no pun intended, well...)
I thought I'd modified the back point to remove the distracting noise
but evidently not. It's just not an image I'm overly happy with - that
said, I've taken far worse too :)

Nick

--
Various travel photos at my personal webspace http://www.nickjames.org

Bowsér

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Nov 3, 2003, 7:13:29 PM11/3/03
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Agree with the critique! It's just a backyard snapshot, and the only thing I
had that fit the theme. No, that's not me.

Yes, I live in a small town about 25 miles north of Boston. The guy in the
picture did some work on the Big Dig, which, thankfully, is winding down.
Couple of more decades and it'll be over. ;-)

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Steve Kramer

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Nov 3, 2003, 8:17:02 PM11/3/03
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street shooter wrote:
>
> These are my opinions on the photographs from this week's shoot-in.
> Please accept them with a very large grain of salt. Here goes:
>
> Gary Ashton-Coulton
>
> Very moody. I like the high key lighting. You've captured just
> enough of the scene to place the subject's in an environmental
> context, and also composed so that the two figures are the dominant
> subject matter. In my opinion, this week's best image.
>
> Bret Douglas
>
> Love the macro! The composition is simple and straightforward, and
> the exposure is right on the money. Nice work.
>
> Jim Kramer
>
> I like the conceptual take on the theme. I'd have liked it better if
> you could have shot the scene with strong directional light
> illuminating one side more than the other. The directional light
> around sunrise or sunset would also have been softer and more pleasing
> overall. Still, an interesting idea behind the image.
>
> Carbuff
>
> Is that a new 20 next to an old 20? Whatever the case, interesting
> photograph.
>
> Steve Kramer
>
> Good use of fill-flash to balance the foreground with the strongly
> backlighted background. I'm not a big fan of wildlife photography,
> but your technique is beyond reproach.

Thanks!
For those interested, this shot was made with an 80-400mm VR on a D100
so actually 120-600 set at 450mm, handheld at a distance of about 75
meters from the subject. The lighting was achieved with a Flash
Extender. (Best $29.95 I've ever spent for wildlife photography.) If
anyone wants to suggest that digital images and VR lens aren't sharp
enough, just enlarge this shot and look at the hairs inside the momma
monkey's nose...

Steve Kramer
Chiang Mai, Thailand
http://www.photoenvisions.com


--
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but in seeing with new eyes." - Marcel Proust

Al Denelsbeck

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Nov 3, 2003, 8:31:29 PM11/3/03
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Steve Kramer <st...@seatraveler.com> wrote in
news:3FA6FE0E...@seatraveler.com:

>
> Thanks!
> For those interested, this shot was made with an 80-400mm VR on a D100
> so actually 120-600 set at 450mm, handheld at a distance of about 75
> meters from the subject. The lighting was achieved with a Flash
> Extender. (Best $29.95 I've ever spent for wildlife photography.) If
> anyone wants to suggest that digital images and VR lens aren't sharp
> enough, just enlarge this shot and look at the hairs inside the momma
> monkey's nose...


You got to this before I had a chance to comment on it,
unfortunately. I was pretty sure it had to be a long lens from that
perfectly centered catchlight, an excellent effect. But the light was still
quite bright, so I figured an extender was used.

I know nobody believes me, but what the hell... ;-)


- Al.

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Online photo gallery at www.wading-in.net

Annika1980

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Nov 3, 2003, 9:07:23 PM11/3/03
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>street shooter wrote:
>>

>> Gary Ashton-Coulton
>>
>> Very moody. I like the high key lighting. You've captured just
>> enough of the scene to place the subject's in an environmental
>> context, and also composed so that the two figures are the dominant
>> subject matter. In my opinion, this week's best image.
>>
>> Bret Douglas
>>
>> Love the macro! The composition is simple and straightforward, and
>> the exposure is right on the money. Nice work.

Thanks. Garry's was my favorite as well (besides mine of course!). To me, his
pic had a WWII look to it ..... kinda 40's if you will.

One wonders how his camera does on color?

jimkramer

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Nov 3, 2003, 9:52:26 PM11/3/03
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"street shooter" <michael....@att.net> wrote in message
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> These are my opinions on the photographs from this week's shoot-in.
> Please accept them with a very large grain of salt. Here goes:
>
> Jim Kramer
>
> I like the conceptual take on the theme. I'd have liked it better if
> you could have shot the scene with strong directional light
> illuminating one side more than the other. The directional light
> around sunrise or sunset would also have been softer and more pleasing
> overall. Still, an interesting idea behind the image.
>
I knew what I wanted to take shortly after the mandate; it was just getting
to it before it was dark that was the problem. I played around with a bunch
of exposures and angles, but the North-South line of site was obstructed by
trees and town. Rather then accentuate the lighting I was too concerned
with the clock faces being clear and readable. Other shots at
http://si.jlkramer.net/si_face2face.htm
Thanks for your comments.
Jim


Simon Stanmore

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Nov 4, 2003, 1:32:42 PM11/4/03
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"street shooter" <michael....@att.net> wrote in message
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>
> Simon Stanmore
>
> This is another of my favorites from this assignment. The focus is
> right on (difficult to do if this is a self portrait). The lighting
> is dramatic, and the theme is captured well. Very, very nice!


Thanks for the positive critique - always great to know when another photog'
enjoys your pic's. The self portrait idea feaked me out a bit - I'm 32 and
stay up very late, but even so! This is actually another photographer who's
actually looking a lot better then this when I'm not training my lights and
lens on him. It was Halloween when I took this and I finally got 'round to
processing it on Sunday I had thoughts of LOTR's Gollum going on in my head
too (had just watched it). The lighting has been 'dramatised' a little in PS
too to bolster the creepy effect but it's basically what was captured. It
was much too late as usual and I screwed up the masking badly ... thankfully
Bret has now put up a corrected version

Simon


Alan Browne

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Nov 4, 2003, 1:34:38 PM11/4/03
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I only read reviews by shoot-in participants.
Which name did you use for your shot?

street shooter

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Nov 4, 2003, 5:28:33 PM11/4/03
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Alan Browne <alan....@OBVIOUSvideotron.ca> wrote in message news:<UiSpb.59298$of7.1...@wagner.videotron.net>...

> I only read reviews by shoot-in participants.
> Which name did you use for your shot?

Michael Hoffman. Does my e-mail address not appear on my critique posts?

Michael

Alan Browne

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Nov 4, 2003, 8:05:06 PM11/4/03
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street shooter wrote:


Apologies, I didn't look at the header in the e-mail.

Alan.

Dallas

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Nov 5, 2003, 11:00:34 AM11/5/03
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Annika1980 said:

I thought it looked a lot like a futuristic interlude with Hermoine and
Harry Potter.

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