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Will Dockery

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Feb 6, 2009, 6:45:24 PM2/6/09
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I've posted a new gallery of some of my recent abstract paintings, which
some of you may have an interest in checking out, for whichever reasons you
prefer.

These paintings are made with a variety of materials from oil, watercolor
and pastel paints, to housepaint, solvents and melted plastics:

http://www.fototime.com/inv/E917106F136751F

Comments and critique, as with all my work in all forms, is most welcome.

--
"Twilight Girl" and other song-poems by Will Dockery:
http://www.myspace.com/willdockery


msifg

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"Will Dockery" <will-dock...@knology.net> wrote in message
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cool!

my dad just sent me a bunch of abstract art.

it's some of my favorite kind of art.

my dad paints on a regular basis.

thanks for sharing.

(sharks beware:
i've got a new pair of teeth.)

Orsen Wells w/Citizen Cain

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"Will Dockery" <will-dock...@knology.net> wrote in message
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> I've posted a new gallery of some of my recent abstract paintings, which


mean about as much as a pre-schooler's glitter and glue art.


> some of you may have an interest in checking out,

No.

> for whichever reasons you
> prefer.
>
> These paintings are made with a variety of materials from oil, watercolor
> and pastel paints, to housepaint, solvents and melted plastics:


So basically, you accidentally melted something with one of your cigarettes,
and decided to put the can of Raid under your sink to something other than
its intended purpose. In the meantime, you probably vomited and after
scraping away the top layer, in your delusional and stupid mental state
decided to call the rest "art."


You're about as much as an artist as a cat walking across a piano is a
musician.

>
> http://www.fototime.com/inv/E917106F136751F
>
> Comments and critique, as with all my work in all forms, is most welcome.
>

It sucks, your work is worthless and would be better off being used to
psychologically torture 9/11 conspirators.

> --
> "I Might Be a Girl" and other song-poems by Will Dockery:
> http://www.myspace.com/willdockery
>
>


Will Dockery

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Feb 7, 2009, 4:08:40 AM2/7/09
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"msifg" <gim...@cox.net> wrote:

> "Will Dockery" wrote:
>
> I've posted a new gallery of some of my recent abstract paintings, which
> > some of you may have an interest in checking out, for whichever reasons
> > you prefer.
> >
> > These paintings are made with a variety of materials from oil,
watercolor
> > and pastel paints, to housepaint, solvents and melted plastics:
> >
> > http://www.fototime.com/inv/E917106F136751F
> >
> > Comments and critique, as with all my work in all forms, are most
welcome.

>
> cool!
>
> my dad just sent me a bunch of abstract art.
>
> it's some of my favorite kind of art.
>
> my dad paints on a regular basis.

Are any of your father's works online anywhere? I'd like to check those out,
since abstract is by far my favorite form.

I hope to somedays get some of Sulzbach's work scanned and online, but he's
such a hermit-type, living out in the wouds of Alabama, it'll be some trick
getting that done.

> thanks for sharing.
>
> (sharks beware:
> i've got a new pair of teeth.)

This unsent post I just found in my "Drafts" section, from last year, of
another old-time artist friend of mine, you might enjoy, as well:

Here are galleries of Barfield, my teacher, who has been highly influenced
by Aborigine art and culture...

The art of Dan Barfield:

http://www.danbarfield.com/index.php

About Dan Barfield posted 2008-01-28 11:22:00 by Dan
I have often been asked by critics and students for the influences that have
shaped my "philosophy of art." I rattle off a few well known names and a few
well known "schools" of art which seems to satisfy them.The truth is....I
don't have a philosophy of art. My paintings grow out of my philosophy of
life and from the experiences of the life that I live and have lived since
childhood.

I grew up along the east coast between Savannah, Georgia and Jacksonville,
Florida, when that coast was still wild and undeveloped. School was a prison
for me, a thing to be endured only long enough to escape into the birdsong
silence and deep shadows of the woods and river swamps, or the sun washed
marshes and sea islands of the coast.
Then, as all teen-agers must, there came a time when I rebelled against this
life. I left this life behind and went to art school and college. I embraced
any road, any thought, any philosophy that took me away from that "old life"
which seemed somehow dull and meaningless. I learned all of the names and
catch phrases of the intellectual artist, embraced all of the currently
popular "schools," and lived the life of "artist as rock-and roll star." And
I did it well, getting my undergraduate degree in art from Columbus State,
and my Master of Fine Art from Savannah College of art and Design, showing
in Europe and America,wearing the laurels of success, never allowing myself
to admit that I was lying to myself and living someone else's life.

Then a major event in my life took place in which I lost everything. I was
living in my car with no home, eating at the Saint Francis mission in St.
Augustine, Florida, and being forced to rethink my life........In retrospect
it is the best thing that could have happened to me. I returned to the
beauty and basic truths of my childhood. I again embraced the beaauty of the
earth and the joy of being alive and free. This is where these paintings are
born.

GALLERY ONE posted 2008-01-28 10:29:41 by Dan
This is my personal favorite series. I have attempted to reach deep into the
human psyche here and create paintings that will be recognized across all
cultures and times. To this end I have worked flat with no attempt to make
them appear as anything except flat paintings on flat surfaces. There is no
attempt at perspective or depth; often there is no foreground, middleground,
or background. The colors are vivid and bright, the flora and fauna would
never be recognized by science, the fruits and flowers would never be found
in a florist or grocer....I hope that they are universal symbols of that
which they represent.

The observer will notice at once the power and importance of the sun symbol.
Actually the sun was usually the first thing painted and the rest of the
painting grew up around it. Those who have lived in the tropics will
understand this, as the sun is the ruler of the day and of all life.

The ruler of all life ....It has been suggested that the sun is a "god"
symbol in these paintings, and I am comfortable with that. (Note that I have
said a 'god symbol,' not a god....a symbol only.) The sun is the source of
all life as all energy comes from the sun...we are of the sun, we eat the
sun when we eat vegetables, or the meat that feeds on the vegetation.

Others have found a "Christian" image in the three "Ancestral Figures" that
stand guard with spears and huge erections over this fecund paradise.(I have
to admit that these figures are stolen from Australian rock paintings and
modified to suit my needs.)

I think I have said enough about these paintings now. I have a tendency to
get long winded and I would not want to color your perceptions. And after
all, art does not take place in the paint or on the wall; art does not take
place in the mind of the artists;...art takes place in the interaction
between the viewer and the painting. Art is a different experience for each
of us, modified or enhanced by our own unique experiences.

The Dream:
http://www.danbarfield.com/gallery1.php

GALLERY TWO posted 2008-01-28 10:04:00 by Dan
What can one say about these paintings? These are scenes that I have
stumbled across from the Low Country of South Carolina to the provinces of
the Philippines. Shrimp boats of the South Carolina and Georgia coast, a
lighthouse somewhere on the Golden Isles of Georgia; a mother and daughter
in Costa Rica, two young Filipino girls with the family's carabao...other
images of other times and places....

Oil on canvas; simple, but I enjoy the discipline needed to render a sceene
that exists on the outside of my mind....simple beauty of a simple life.

I hope that you, the viewer, enjoy them, that you are sensitive to the
beauty of them, and that they bring you happiness.

The Reality:
http://www.danbarfield.com/gallery2.php

--
"Wobble":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVIF2-qWIUc

Henry Conley: guitar
Riley Yielding: trumpet
Sir Charles: saxophone
Sam Phillips: bass
Brad Strickland: drums
Will Dockery: words

"Wobble" was written by Will Dockery & Henry Conley

"Last Dream Today":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSpYx8sSFP0

Brian Mallard - guitar
Dan Davidson - bass
Josh Railey - drums
Riley Yeilding - trumpet
Sir Charles - saxophone
Will Dockery - vocals

"Last Dream Today" was written by Will Dockery and Brian Mallard

msifg

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"Will Dockery" <will-dock...@knology.net> wrote in message
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my dad is very old and has never been interested
in sharing his art but with close friends and family.

we try to get him to go online like some of his
art friends. however, he really doesn't feel
like his work merits that kind of exposure.

i think it does. however, i'm far from an expert.

that dan barfeild stuff is abstract.
however, my dads stuff is more like yours.
the barfield stuff is pretty and phantasmagorical
in an otherworldly kind of way. it kept taking
me to the astral plane. that's some of my
favorite stuff. people who paint like
that usually don't get much exposure.
that's what makes it "art."

i'm not big on discussing paints and techniques
but i love sharing ideas like you just did.
my dad just offloaded a few paintings on to
me as gifts. at some point, i'll scan them
onto a webpage dedicated to him. i really
don't know what's going to happen to all of
his stuff when he goes. he's got hundreds
laying around the house.

Dale Houstman

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Feb 7, 2009, 7:24:20 AM2/7/09
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Will Dockery wrote:
> I've posted a new gallery of some of my recent abstract paintings, which
> some of you may have an interest in checking out, for whichever reasons you
> prefer.
>
> These paintings are made with a variety of materials from oil, watercolor
> and pastel paints, to housepaint, solvents and melted plastics:
>
> http://www.fototime.com/inv/E917106F136751F
>
> Comments and critique, as with all my work in all forms, is most welcome.
>
They are all pretty much the same apart from being different colors. I
suppose you think they're akin to Pollack's work, but Pollack is one of
those figures (like "e.e. cummings" in poetry) who - although marvelous
in their own right - have served as "bad examples" and invitations to
laziness for an entire generation of artists. With "cummings" it is the
notion that if one just puts in enough punctuation, splits up words,
spells words oddly, etc. then poetry is inevitable. The Beats obviously
serve a similar function for you and many other mediocre-to-terrible
performance "artists". Here - in your "paintings" - you seem to think if
you dribble enough colored crap on a canvas, it must - by some universal
law of cosmic kindness - create a work which is the perfect expression
of some inner passion you pretend to feel. But they are just charmless
masses of direction-less non-intent. The contrast with Pollack's works
is instructive: despite his being called a "dribbler" his works reveal
intent, there is strength, energy, and a "rush toward an answer" to his
lines: he is truly finding the "expression" in "abstract expressionism".
Yours are an (unintentional and unfunny) parody of his accomplishments,
more a critique of what those who disliked his work thought his work was
than an understanding of his vision.

Yes Jackson also used housepaint, which has led to a set of preservation
problems: you needn't worry that this will happen in your case - not one
of these "paintings" needs to survive past next week.

dmh

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Will Dockery

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"Dale Houstman" <dm...@skypoint.com> wrote:
> Will Dockery wrote:
>
> I've posted a new gallery of some of my recent abstract paintings, which
> > some of you may have an interest in checking out, for whichever reasons
you
> > prefer.
> >
> > These paintings are made with a variety of materials from oil,
watercolor
> > and pastel paints, to housepaint, solvents and melted plastics:
> >
> > http://www.fototime.com/inv/E917106F136751F
> >
> > Comments and critique, as with all my work in all forms, is most
welcome.
> >
> They are all pretty much the same apart from being different colors. I

The photos were not taken by Martin Scorsese, but just a pal with a camera,
so first off they're not as crisp a veiw as you'd get if you were standing
in the shed with me, but that tossed off comment is typical of your lazy
commentary. I have to say if, say, you think that these two close-ups of a
section of two of the paintings:

http://tinyurl.com/green-planet

compared with

http://tinyurl.com/cqzktb

And still shrug and claim they're "pretty much the same", then you either
need a new pair of glasses, or you're indulging in your typical, and
tiresomely whining negativity game.

Why not try to get past your jealousy and open your eyes for once?

> suppose you think they're akin to Pollack's work, but Pollack is one of

Well, I love what I've seen of Pollack's art, yeah, although I've only seen
photographs of it. The person who probably influenced me more, since I did
spend several days looking at his paintings up close back in 1991 or so, was
Richard Pousette-Dart, when his paintings came to Shadowville on tour:

http://www.mannysilvermangallery.com/artists/richard_pousette-dart-biography-chronology.html

I saw these paintings, and I "got" them.

Unlike you, I looked long and hard at them, and began trying to "get"
something of my own.

I've met your type before, and /or course/ you were never in this place...
you shrugged your shoulders, took a glance and walked away, angry about how
"anyone can splash some pain on a canvas, so why should I bother?', since
you already did in your mind. I've also seen your type sitting by the bar,
or skulking behind the pool table, while a performer's onstage... "I can
play better than that..." or "Anyone can write that poetry crap, just string
some words together, and shuffle them in a deck of index cards...",
different faces, same old whine.

Which you've perfected to an art form of its own.

> those figures (like "e.e. cummings" in poetry) who - although marvelous
> in their own right - have served as "bad examples" and invitations to
> laziness for an entire generation of artists.

Or with your example, an invitation to a lazy shrug of the shoulders and an
"it's just paint splattered on a canvas".

Of course, you're as much an example of that "generation of artists",
yourself... it just boils down to the fact that you can't "tolerate" anyone
who excells at "your game", and thus your eternal cycle of agressively
attempting to tear down everything, every "abstract" poet or artist that
crosses your path... am I right? Deep down, you know I am.

With "cummings" it is the
> notion that if one just puts in enough punctuation, splits up words,

Or your added touch of shuffling them in a deck of index cards... heh.

> spells words oddly, etc. then poetry is inevitable.

Or, as with your poetry, the idea that (from the "bad example" of William
Burroughs) sentences chopped up and shuffled in a deck of index cards will
inevitably turn into a poem...

> The Beats obviously serve a similar function for you

While you've based your entire poetry "career" on the methods of William
Burroughs... project much?

> Here - in your "paintings" - you seem to think if

Key word: "seem to think".

You "seem" to be projecting your own lack of originality and "vision" on
me... for about the umpteenth time.

> you dribble enough colored crap on a canvas,

One of my methods is to use only "found" materials, which really does make
(in my opinion) a work which is the perfect expression of some "inner
passion", and better yet (as with the best poetry) a document of that
feeling, or whatever... but I know how you hate all that "mystic" "feelings"
stuff...

You glance at a poem and give a non-specific "plagiarism" libel, and
appatrently you have the same narrow-minded veiw of art... and I've never
seen you comment once on another poet besides yourself positively, which
smacks of a form of competitive jealousy, which is pretty unoriginal in
itself.

> But they are just charmless
> masses of direction-less non-intent.

Since I doubt you've even looked at them for more than 30 seconds, I'll just
shrug and give a "thanks for looking and commenting" back at you.

The contrast with Pollack's works
> is instructive: despite his being called a "dribbler" his works reveal
> intent, there is strength, energy, and a "rush toward an answer" to his
> lines: he is truly finding the "expression" in "abstract expressionism".

Plus his paintings have the name "Jackson Pollack" on them, right?

You're just a broken record of bitter negativity, perhaps because of your
own failures, I suppose?

> Yours are an (unintentional and unfunny) parody of his accomplishments,
> more a critique of what those who disliked his work thought his work was
> than an understanding of his vision.

Suddenly you pretend to have and/or "understand" a "vision"... heh.

> Yes Jackson also used housepaint, which has led to a set of preservation
> problems

A can of Clearcoat works wonders, pal... get over your bitterness at those
of us who can, and try to get "something" of your own done, perhaps? Thanks
for having a look and commenting, though... maybe someday you'll have
something useful to say rather than just project your own lack of
originality and "vision" on the rest of us who do work to those goals of
getting the vision down as art?

George Dance

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Feb 7, 2009, 10:48:35 AM2/7/09
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On Feb 6, 6:45 pm, "Will Dockery" <will-dockery-gr...@knology.net>
wrote:

> I've posted a new gallery of some of my recent abstract paintings, which
> some of you may have an interest in checking out, for whichever reasons you
> prefer.
>
> These paintings are made with a variety of materials from oil, watercolor
> and pastel paints, to housepaint, solvents and melted plastics:
>
> http://www.fototime.com/inv/E917106F136751F
>
> Comments and critique, as with all my work in all forms, is most welcome.
>


Reminds me of some of this guy's stuff:
http://www.skypoint.com/members/dmh7/GhostPosters/Borborygmae/


In a couple of cases, (Ozone Stigmata being one I remember), I liked
your detail shot better than the full picture. For that reason I think
I'd appreciate the originals better if I could enlarge them and see
more detail. Not that I didn't like any of them. "Planet Fall" had a
composition I liked; I wouldn't be ashamed to have it on a wall of my
living room.

Unfortunately, this whole way of creating art reminds me of tossing
off -- just throwing something down and hopin the result is art. I see
too much of that in attempts to write poetry, on usenet and elsewyere,
and I don't like it here any better here than there. Occasionally a
good piece does result; but that's always too dependent on accident or
mere coincidence for my liking.

Dale Houstman

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Feb 7, 2009, 10:52:24 AM2/7/09
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Savageduck wrote:

>
> Pollock is much maligned.
> Most of those who ridicule his work have not experienced it, only
> imagine that they are capable of similar work without his artistry and
> intellect (alcohol not withstanding) they never attain his result. He
> was unique.

As we have seen with Mockery's "paintings" even those who profess to
like Pollock's work malign it with their misunderstanding of it. Will
appears to think the art is in the dribble.

dmh

msifg

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well, now-
what have we here?
houstman bringing it down to b's cat level
of altering the posters name.

(a tell tale sign that someone just got owned.)

George Dance

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Feb 7, 2009, 11:01:06 AM2/7/09
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On Feb 7, 9:05 am, Savageduck <savaged...@savage.net> wrote:
> Pollock is much maligned.
> Most of those who ridicule his work have not experienced it, only
> imagine that they are capable of similar work without his artistry and
> intellect (alcohol not withstanding) they never attain his result. He
> was unique.


Well, one major difference was that Pollock, unlike so many of his
imitators, was not just an "artist" but a painter; so he knew and was
able to use traditional rules or tools of composition in his work. Too
many wannabe "artists" never take the time to learn to be painters,
just as too many wannabe poets never take the time to learn to be
writers.


>
> Here is Pollock #2 at the Munson Williams Procter Arts Institute Utica
> NY,http://snipr.com/7or04-wiksca
> MWPhttp://www.mwpai.org/museum/collections/modernandcontemporary/
>
> --
> Regards,
> Savageduck

George Kerby

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On 2/6/09 5:45 PM, in article 6fc28$498ccd9c$4b4c71e9$11...@KNOLOGY.NET,
"Will Dockery" <will-dock...@knology.net> wrote:

> I've posted a new gallery of some of my recent abstract paintings, which
> some of you may have an interest in checking out, for whichever reasons you
> prefer.
>
> These paintings are made with a variety of materials from oil, watercolor
> and pastel paints, to housepaint, solvents and melted plastics:
>

But what about that thirty pounds of stomach fat? Did you not include that
as material?

George Dance

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Feb 7, 2009, 11:09:27 AM2/7/09
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On Feb 7, 10:57 am, "msifg" <gime...@cox.net> wrote:
> "Dale Houstman" <d...@skypoint.com> wrote in message


Nahh, "Savageduck" appears to be a real nym. I checked his profile;
he's been posting under that nym for years.

msifg

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"George Dance" <george...@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
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*it's definitely not for everybody.

look-
the most complex work of art that requires
years of schooling to master is always
open to intense scrutiny as well, esp in the art
world.

i think it goes by feel more than technique.

and, i think that's how it goes with writing as well.

the most important thing is to have fun in life.

the cynics disagree. usually, they're off somehere
whining about being better than others and not
actually doing anything worth while themselves.

none of us are going to make any kind of dent
in THAT world. but, for eachother and around
here?- we make plenty of differences in peoples
lives.

to me, that's all that matters in the long run.

rules or no rules.

msifg

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"George Dance" <george...@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
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*yeah-
well, i ducked that reply.

check out the "mockery."

see, i've got some luck.

George Dance

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On Feb 7, 11:16 am, "msifg" <gime...@cox.net> wrote:
> "George Dance" <georgedanc...@yahoo.ca> wrote in message


Got it. I missed that on the first read.

Maybe Dale wants a new name for himself. I'll work on that. So far the
best I have is "Pale Hammesimitation", but that's a bit lengthy. I'll
try some recursions. 8)

Will Dockery

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Feb 7, 2009, 11:21:56 AM2/7/09
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"George Dance" wrote:
>"Will Dockery" wrote:

(Google ain't quoting right this morning, or something, so my replies are
with an *)

> I've posted a new gallery of some of my recent abstract paintings, which
> some of you may have an interest in checking out, for whichever reasons
you prefer.
>
> These paintings are made with a variety of materials from oil, watercolor
> and pastel paints, to housepaint, solvents and melted plastics:
>
> http://www.fototime.com/inv/E917106F136751F
>
> Comments and critique, as with all my work in all forms, is most welcome.
>

*Heh... who would have figured?

>In a couple of cases, (Ozone Stigmata being one I remember), I liked
your detail shot better than the full picture. For that reason I think I'd
appreciate the originals better if I could enlarge >them and see more
detail.

*Yes, as I noted to another person a few minutes ago:

"...The photos were not taken by Martin Scorsese, but just a pal with a


camera, so first off they're not as crisp a veiw as you'd get if you were
standing in the shed with me, but that tossed off comment is typical of your
lazy commentary. I have to say if, say, you think that these two close-ups
of a section of two of the paintings:

http://tinyurl.com/green-planet

compared with

http://tinyurl.com/cqzktb

And still shrug and claim they're 'pretty much the same', then you either
need a new pair of glasses, or you're indulging in your typical, and

tiresomely whining negativity game..."

Oh course, this person (who no doubt fancies himself a better paint dribber)
probably never made it past the opening thumbnail, if his usual standard of
critique is the way he approached these paintings.

But, yes, properly scanned or better photographed, I'm sure they'd have more
of their intended impact, thanks for taking the time to give them a try.

>Not that I didn't like any of them. "Planet Fall" had a
composition I liked; I wouldn't be ashamed to have it on a wall of my living
room.
>
>Unfortunately, this whole way of creating art reminds me of tossing
off -- just throwing something down and hopin the result is >art.

*I've thrown away and given away many paintings that I think failed...
sometimes to my regret. When I moved out of a house back in 1989, I left all
the paintings I'd done up to that point there, because they just didn't
"move" me anymore, or at least not enough to "move" them... damned heavy
pieces... I feel this batch works better, so far...

>I see
too much of that in attempts to write poetry, on usenet and elsewyere,
>and I don't like it here any better here than there.

*You might like my comix better... maybe...

>Occasionally a
good piece does result; but that's always too dependent on accident or
>mere coincidence for my liking.

*Yes, I'm guilty of about 20 years of poetry that could be judged in that
way, just over the last decade or so knuckling down to working in more
"universal language" and trying the more traditional forms... I credit the
collaborations with musicians who insist on knowing what the hell's going on
at the time with working more and more in that direction,

For example, HC /hates/ things like the title "Ozone Stigmata" and so forth,
he tried to insist we call it "Handbasket From Hell" for weeks, "You gotta
have the listener be able to find it on the jukebox!", but the words "Ozone
Stigmata" are jam-packed with multiple meanings, and I have to stand my
ground in certain cases like these... I can only pander to the masses so
far... heh.

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wrote:

> I've posted a new gallery of some of my recent abstract paintings, which
> some of you may have an interest in checking out, for whichever reasons you
> prefer.
>
> These paintings are made with a variety of materials from oil, watercolor
> and pastel paints, to housepaint, solvents and melted plastics:
>
> http://www.fototime.com/inv/E917106F136751F
>
> Comments and critique, as with all my work in all forms, is most welcome.

Not it isn't! Ah Twitch, if only you had a single honest bone in your
body.

What's that 17th slide called? 'Friday Night's Upchuck Chunky - Dried
and Framed'?

-blue

>
> --
> "Twilight Girl" and other song-poems by Will Dockery:http://www.myspace.com/willdockery

Wow, still calling your stuff on myspace song-poems, huh? What a
dreamer, Bill, what a dreamer.


Rob Evans

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Or a tell-tale sign that you can't follow a thread (even if you move your
lips).

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Will Dockery

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<snip for brevity>

> > http://www.danbarfield.com/index.php
> >
> > The Dream:
> > http://www.danbarfield.com/gallery1.php
> >
> > The Reality:
> > http://www.danbarfield.com/gallery2.php


>
> my dad is very old and has never been interested
> in sharing his art but with close friends and family.
>
> we try to get him to go online like some of his
> art friends. however, he really doesn't feel
> like his work merits that kind of exposure.
>
> i think it does. however, i'm far from an expert.

Hope you can convince him to put some out for the world, though.

> that dan barfeild stuff is abstract.
> however, my dads stuff is more like yours.
> the barfield stuff is pretty and phantasmagorical
> in an otherworldly kind of way. it kept taking
> me to the astral plane. that's some of my
> favorite stuff. people who paint like
> that usually don't get much exposure.
> that's what makes it "art."
>
> i'm not big on discussing paints and techniques
> but i love sharing ideas like you just did.
> my dad just offloaded a few paintings on to
> me as gifts. at some point, i'll scan them
> onto a webpage dedicated to him. i really
> don't know what's going to happen to all of
> his stuff when he goes. he's got hundreds
> laying around the house.

Barfield's art almost got me arrested a few years ago, a nosy peeping tom
thought I had "dead bodies" stashed in the backroom:

----
Columbus Ledger-Enquirer (GA)
July 13, 1997
Section: LOCAL
Edition: FIRST
Page: B1

HOW GROSS THY ART
Tim Chitwood

Apparently it was all just a big misunderstanding.

The misunderstanding led to a 911 call about a decomposing body in an old
house M***** S*****'s husband R****** owns at 2113 **th St. in Columbus.
That led to the discovery that it wasn't a body after all, but artwork made
of barbed wire and blowtorched Barbie dolls. But it sure looked like a body
to police. And it looked like a body to paramedics. And it definitely looked
like a body to Danny W****.

Danny is a real estate agent who with M***** went to look at the house July
2. He wanted to buy it and fix it up. It needs fixing up. The roof leaks in
places and some of the floor's rotting. The S**** now live on F**** Drive
and use the **th Street house for storage. M*****'s son Will Dockery lets
friends -- artists, poets and madmen, Will says -- store their work there.

Among those artists is Dan Barfield, who has a concept piece called
"Vietnam,'' part of which the veteran made of melted Barbie dolls. ("He
hates Barbies,'' says his wife Judy.) It now lies on the floor among other
stuff stored in the dark, northwest bedroom of the ##th Street house. To
someone who didn't know what it was, it might look like a rib cage and
sternum atop decayed matter.

That's what it looked like to Danny W**** when he walked into that musty
room, first staring up at the rafters. Then he looked down. Then he froze.
Then he ran.

He wasn't sure what he saw. Maybe a body. Maybe it was sealed with wax,
which trapped the odor. Maybe this was a bizarre ritual. Maybe he didn't
want to know.

M***** followed Danny as he dashed outside, where he tried to make a call on
his cell phone. She told him not to. According to her, she told him he'd
just seen some artwork. According to Danny, she never said that; she just
said they didn't need the police coming there.

This did not sound reassuring. Danny had to make that call. Now don't call
the police, M***** said again. She says she also told Danny her son Will had
a bad temper, and he wouldn't like Danny calling the police.

She says Danny replied that the police wouldn't do anything to her; she
wasn't involved. That's true, she said (she wasn't involved in storing the
art), but the police needn't be bothered.

M***** claims Danny then offered her $13,000 for the house, then said it
needed so much work the most he could give her was $10,000.

Danny maintains all M***** did was tell him no one should call the police.

The next day, someone called the police.

About 10:30 a.m., police and paramedics rushed to the house, unboarded a
door to get in and examined what they, too, thought was a decaying body,
oddly odorless. Then they poked it and figured out it wasn't. It was such a
weird story, the Ledger-Enquirer ran it on the front page July 4.

That's how M****** learned police had broken into the house. She was
perturbed. She blamed Danny.

Danny won't say he called police, but admits he told someone what he thought
he saw. Stan Swiney of the 911 center says the call reportedly came from a
Billy Hanson. (No Billy Hanson listed in the Columbus telephone directory
was involved; I called.)

The 911 report said someone saw the alleged corpse through a window. That's
difficult: The room's dark; the window's dirty; the art's hard to see.

The artist, Dan Barfield, says it's funny Danny W**** would be frightened,
because the real estate agent stopped by a few months ago when Dan was
moving art into the house, and this piece was out on the lawn at the time.
The artist claims the agent told him a decayed body was found in the house
once.

Danny says that's outrageous: He has never met Dan Barfield. "I would
remember that,'' he says.

Danny says he just wanted to buy the house to help clean up the
neighborhood, where he owns other property. ``As far as I'm concerned now,
they couldn't give it to me,'' he says.

Perhaps it will remain the house of scary art, where once people thought
they saw a dead body.

But didn't.
----

Barfield took off to live in Texas a year or so ago and I haven't heard a
word from him since... hope the old cuss is doing okay out there.

Orsen Wells w/Citizen Cain

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we can only hope the artist does not do so as well


Will Dockery

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"Savageduck" wrote:
> Will Dockery wrote:
>
>> I've posted a new gallery of some of my recent abstract paintings, which
> >> some of you may have an interest in checking out, for whichever reasons
you prefer.
> >>
> >> These paintings are made with a variety of materials from oil,
watercolor
> >> and pastel paints, to housepaint, solvents and melted plastics:
> >>
> >> http://www.fototime.com/inv/E917106F136751F
> >>
> >> Comments and critique, as with all my work in all forms, is most
welcome.
>
> Pollock is much maligned.
> Most of those who ridicule his work have not experienced it, only
> imagine that they are capable of similar work without his artistry and
> intellect

No, it isn't as easy as so many of those people would think, and certainly
isn't just a matter of "splashing paint on a board", as folks like to
assume.

(alcohol not withstanding) they never attain his result. He
> was unique.

He inspired quite a few greats that seem to be often overlooked, such as the
previously mentioned Richard Dousette-Dart, who was actually a more direct
influence on my paintings, having studied his works up close.

http://www.artnet.com/artist/13705/richard-pousette-dart.html

Pousette-Dart's work was here on exhibition for a few months back in 1991
(1990 - 1992 Retrospektives in Indianapolis, Detroit, Columbus Georgia,
Washington), and one of my favorite things to do at the time was to smoke a
good joint and wander among his paintings.

> Here is Pollock #2 at the Munson Williams Procter Arts Institute Utica
> NY, http://snipr.com/7or04-wiksca
> MWP http://www.mwpai.org/museum/collections/modernandcontemporary/

Great stuff, yes... a shame so many people just don't "get it".

> Regards,
> Savageduck

Thanks, and great name, btw... heh.

Charles

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"Will Dockery" <will-dock...@knology.net> wrote in message
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> I've posted a new gallery of some of my recent abstract paintings, which
> some of you may have an interest in checking out, for whichever reasons
> you
> prefer.
>
> These paintings are made with a variety of materials from oil, watercolor
> and pastel paints, to housepaint, solvents and melted plastics:
>
> http://www.fototime.com/inv/E917106F136751F
>
> Comments and critique, as with all my work in all forms, is most welcome.

I especially like "Black and Blue Night."

Thanks for sharing.


msifg

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*hoseman works for me.

heh

msifg

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that's one hell of a story, Will.

thanks for sharing.

msifg

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neither can you.

i already called "muckery" as a "save."

i screwed up the word prima donna in the other
thread, dickweed.

you need to clear your nasal passages, old fart.

the snot is starting to leak out onto the
bloody page.

Orsen Wells w/Citizen Cain

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>
> "Will Dockery" <will-dock...@knology.net> wrote in message

>> I grew up along the east coast between Savannah, Georgia and

>> Jacksonville,
>> Florida, when that coast was still wild and undeveloped. School was a
>> prison
>> for me, a thing to be endured only long enough to escape into the
>> birdsong
>> silence and deep shadows of the woods and river swamps, or the sun washed
>> marshes and sea islands of the coast.


Well, that PARTLY explains why he's so fucking stupid. He dropped out of
school. I'm sure there's some natural talent of stupidity there, though. No
one can be as dumb, ignorant and closed-minded as Dockery without having
some natural abilities to do the same.


Orsen Wells w/Citizen Cain

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"Will Dockery" <will-dock...@knology.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Savageduck" wrote:
>> Will Dockery wrote:
>>
>>> I've posted a new gallery of some of my recent abstract paintings, which
>> >> some of you may have an interest in checking out, for whichever
>> >> reasons
> you prefer.
>> >>
>> >> These paintings are made with a variety of materials from oil,
> watercolor
>> >> and pastel paints, to housepaint, solvents and melted plastics:
>> >>
>> >> http://www.fototime.com/inv/E917106F136751F
>> >>
>> >> Comments and critique, as with all my work in all forms, is most
> welcome.
>>
>> Pollock is much maligned.
>> Most of those who ridicule his work have not experienced it, only
>> imagine that they are capable of similar work without his artistry and
>> intellect
>
> No, it isn't as easy as so many of those people would think, and certainly
> isn't just a matter of "splashing paint on a board", as folks like to
> assume.


Though Duckery tends to just shit on a post card and mail it to the
Smithsonian.

Orsen Wells w/Citizen Cain

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> *I've thrown away and given away many paintings that I think failed...

Which would be all of them.

> sometimes to my regret.

Is it psychologically possible for a narcissist to have regrets?

> When I moved out of a house back in 1989,


"moved out" = he came back to find the locks changed and all his shit on the
ground

>I left all
> the paintings I'd done up to that point there, because they just didn't
> "move" me anymore, or at least not enough to "move" them...

translation: The drugs wore off and he sobered up.


>damned heavy
> pieces... I feel this batch works better, so far...
>
>>I see
> too much of that in attempts to write poetry, on usenet and elsewyere,
>>and I don't like it here any better here than there.
>
> *You might like my comix better... maybe...
>
>>Occasionally a
> good piece does result; but that's always too dependent on accident or
>>mere coincidence for my liking.
>
> *Yes, I'm guilty of about 20 years of poetry that could be judged


as total shit and a waste of your entire life. Great job, Duckery. You're
going to die poor and pathetic. Your remains will be cremated and buried in
Potter's Field.


Orsen Wells w/Citizen Cain

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"Will Dockery" <will-dock...@knology.net> wrote in message
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>
> Barfield's art almost got me arrested a few years ago, a nosy peeping tom
> thought I had "dead bodies" stashed in the backroom:
>
> ----
> Columbus Ledger-Enquirer (GA)
> July 13, 1997
> Section: LOCAL
> Edition: FIRST
> Page: B1
>
> HOW GROSS THY ART
> Tim Chitwood
>
> Apparently it was all just a big misunderstanding.
>
> The misunderstanding led to a 911 call about a decomposing body in an old
> house M***** S*****'s husband R****** owns at 2113 **th St. in Columbus.
> That led to the discovery that it wasn't a body after all, but artwork
> made
> of barbed wire and blowtorched Barbie dolls. But it sure looked like a
> body
> to police. And it looked like a body to paramedics. And it definitely
> looked
> like a body to Danny W****.


What the fuck? Duckery messing around with barbed wire and Barbie dolls?
This is a side of Duckery that, while not unexpected, is still creepy and
twisted.

FarStar

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Feb 7, 2009, 4:13:24 PM2/7/09
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It's a little chaotic Will, that teases the eye, but too fine for me to
tease any dream time. contrasting pallet
but it's all background, like your road picture
give it some subject(s) in contrasting ideology, and you'll be on your way

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Subjugate the rhyme and rawk with the rhythm
Only got one line to balk all the schizm

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FarStar

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> as total shit and a waste of your

boy your a rose aren't you

FarStar

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msifg wrote:

> whining about being better than others and not
> actually doing anything worth while themselves.

True, that.

FarStar

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Dale Houstman fanged:

> problems: you needn't worry that this will happen in your case - not one
> of these "paintings" needs to survive past next week.

You should have used links, you look like an idiot not having supported a
single claim in your entire diatribe

FarStar

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>we can only hope the artist does not do so as well

your just a bitchy peach, aren't ya

FarStar

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Savageduck wrote:

<mercy snip>


>
> Pollock is much maligned.
> Most of those who ridicule his work have not experienced it, only
> imagine that they are capable of similar work without his artistry and

> intellect (alcohol not withstanding) they never attain his result. He
> was unique.
>

> Here is Pollock #2 at the Munson Williams Procter Arts Institute Utica
> NY, http://snipr.com/7or04-wiksca
> MWP http://www.mwpai.org/museum/collections/modernandcontemporary/
>

That's not a painting, that's a haiku in bastard form
having only three syllables such as: as
'em
icK!

--

FarStar

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Dale Houstman fanged:

> appears to think the art is in the quip.

(It's in the size Will,
a big fucking wall
and the dynamic of the large with the fine
in a subtext of asemicity)

FarStar

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"Orsen Wells w/Citizen Cain" fanged in his unlife:

> Though Duckery tends to just shit on a post card and mail it to the
> Smithsonian.

They asked to see if his shit was really inspired, and he merely replied,
"see for your self"
You must have asked too, you're own fault. Sour grapes and all that.

FarStar

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Orsen Wells w/Citizen Cain fanged:
>
> So basically, you accidentally melted something with one of your
> cigarettes, and decided to put the can of Raid under your sink to
> something other than its intended purpose. In the meantime, you probably
> vomited and after scraping away the top layer, in your delusional and
> stupid mental state decided to call the rest "art."

Your an idiot "dorksen", if history has proven one thing
critics have only made life harder for poor artists before they die and
become famous, never improved the art with their own work or dialog...
like the fuzz on a radio chattering to the greatest song
it still pisses on the melody. save it for the commercial break
or get with the constructive criticism seeing as how you know so much

"we know"

FarStar

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<mercy snip>

logic, ever hear of it? That's a quote of a quote, idiot

About Dan Barfield  posted 2008-01-28 11:22:00 by Dan
<snip>


I grew up along the east coast between Savannah, Georgia and Jacksonville,
Florida, when that coast was still wild and undeveloped. School was a prison
for me, a thing to be endured only long enough to escape into the birdsong
silence and deep shadows of the woods and river swamps, or the sun washed
marshes and sea islands of the coast.

--

FarStar

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<mercy snip>

what the hell, I really should call the vampire hunters
this outbreak is getting worse

Rob Evans

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As a "save"? Of course you did. AND you had your fingers crossed.

And things will be better when you get to big school.


>
> i screwed up the word prima donna in the other
> thread, dickweed.
>

I think screwing up words could be your particular forte. A promising
Duckling indeed.

Rob

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Will Dockery

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On Feb 7, 6:08 pm, "Charles" wrote:

> "Will Dockery" wrote:
>
> > I've posted a new gallery of some of my recent abstract paintings, which some of you may have an interest in checking out, for whichever reasons you prefer.
>
> > These paintings are made with a variety of materials from oil, watercolor
> > and pastel paints, to housepaint, solvents and melted plastics:
>
> >http://www.fototime.com/inv/E917106F136751F
>
> > Comments and critique, as with all my work in all forms, is most welcome.
>
> I especially like "Black and Blue Night."
>
> Thanks for sharing.

"Black and Blue Night":

http://www.fototime.com/{496A5179-1A5C-46AB-AE9A-B29043A793A4}/picture.JPG

Thanks for having a look, and commenting, Charles. I hope to get a
clearler, sharper shot of this one (and the others) online sometime
soon, as almost two-thirds of this fairly big one is obscured in the
shot. It was freezing, running late, and my friend just took a few
quick shots before we took off for a warm cafe. "BaBN" night was made
with all sorts of plastic toys held on a stick and melted onto the
board... melted plastic is a fairly dangerous medium to work with, to
say the least! If the lava-like heat doesn't get you (which it always
does at some point, human skin seems to have an almost magnetic effect
on it) then the fumes will.

Fascinating experiments, though.

--
"Twilight Girl" and other poetry & music from Will Dockery:
http://www.myspace.com/willdockery

Orsen Wells w/Citizen Cain

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> Orsen Wells w/Citizen Cain fanged:
>>
>> So basically, you accidentally melted something with one of your
>> cigarettes, and decided to put the can of Raid under your sink to
>> something other than its intended purpose. In the meantime, you probably
>> vomited and after scraping away the top layer, in your delusional and
>> stupid mental state decided to call the rest "art."
>
> Your an idiot "dorksen",


Does this mean we aren't going to go see "Marly & Me" like we planned? *kri*


>if history has proven one thing
> critics have only made life harder for poor artists before they die and
> become famous, never improved the art with their own work or dialog...


Duckery will eventually die, yes, and that's a comforting thought
(especially since it'll probably be through an overdose of drugs and
alcohol), but as for him being famous??? Not ever. Though sheer stupidity
COULD technically be called a "Dockery."

> like the fuzz on a radio chattering to the greatest song
> it still pisses on the melody. save it for the commercial break
> or get with the constructive criticism seeing as how you know so much
>
> "we know"


IF YOU LOVE DOCKERY SO MUCH WHY DON'T YOU MARRY HIM


Will Dockery

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"Dale Houstman" wrote:
> Savageduck wrote:
>
> > Pollock is much maligned.
> > Most of those who ridicule his work have not experienced it, only
> > imagine that they are capable of similar work without his artistry and
> > intellect (alcohol not withstanding) they never attain his result. He
> > was unique.
>
> As we have seen with Dockery's paintings:

http://www.fototime.com/inv/E917106F136751F

Thanks for the comments, and for having a look.

--
"Twilight Girl" and other poetry-music from Will Dockery:
http://www.myspace.com/willdockery

FarStar

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>
> IF YOU LOVE DOCKERY SO MUCH WHY DON'T YOU MARRY HIM

SHUCKS, I like women like you...

Will Dockery

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"msifg" wrote:
> "Will Dockery" wrote:

> > "msifg" wrote:
> >>"Will Dockery" wrote:
>
> >> >> I've posted a new gallery of some of my recent abstract paintings,
which
> >> >> > some of you may have an interest in checking out, for whichever
> > reasons you prefer.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > These paintings are made with a variety of materials from oil,
watercolor
> >> >> > and pastel paints, to housepaint, solvents and melted plastics:
>>
>> http://www.fototime.com/inv/E917106F136751F
>>
> >> >> > Comments and critique, as with all my work in all forms, are most
welcome.
> >> >>
> >> >> cool!

<snipped for brevity>

> that's one hell of a story, Will.
>
> thanks for sharing.

That was a great time period where the area was just bursting with great
artists and poets, which looked like it would expand... poetry readings were
"in" around here for a while, 1995-1999 or so, there was even a city-wide
"best of" in music, arts, poetry, the Perky Awards which I took in 1998:

http://www.fototime.com/{030189BB-B6FD-45B8-ACDF-8F90760C28FB}/picture.JPG

As the Bush era unfolded, coincidentally much of that kind of ground down,
people drifted apart, and I began working more and more with rock and blues
music, and deal in that crowd more now. There's still poetry readings here,
but the venue lack "spark" for me, in a quiet-zone, no smoking, at the
public library... gone for now are the poetry nights in the smoky bars,
although every now and then a poet will drift through and read at the open
mic. Poetry is absorbed into the music, which is actually where it began
back around the dawn of time, anyhow.

Speaking of the music... I'm running late for the Sunday show, the archives
of which I hope to be arranging to archive online soon... so more on this
interesting historical stuff later, including a Hammes Retrospective.

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In article <6fc28$498ccd9c$4b4c71e9$11...@KNOLOGY.NET>, Will Dockery says...

>
>I've posted a new gallery of some of my recent abstract paintings, which
>some of you may have an interest in checking out, for whichever reasons you
>prefer.
>
>These paintings are made with a variety of materials from oil, watercolor
>and pastel paints, to housepaint, solvents and melted plastics:
>
>http://www.fototime.com/inv/E917106F136751F
>
>Comments and critique, as with all my work in all forms, is most welcome.

this is most interesting. i spent several summers, whenst in college, working
for a professional house painter. of course he used these huge sail-sheet drop
clothes to protect the floors and furniture from dripping and spilling paint.

his sail-sheet drop clothes had more artistic worth than these things you posted
here.

as for your drawings? what a criminal waste of bandwidth. only a delusional fool
would have posted those embarrassments. the sadness that is you is sometimes
really hard to watch.


most sincerely,

GodBuilt


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"I am a false prophet and God is a superstition.." "Again!"

There Will Be Blood

Will Dockery

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"msifg" <gime...@cox.net> wrote:
>"Will Dockery" wrote:
>
> >> I've posted a new gallery of some of my recent abstract paintings,
> > which
> >> some of you may have an interest in checking out, for whichever reasons you prefer.
>
> >> These paintings are made with a variety of materials from oil,
> > watercolor
> >> and pastel paints, to housepaint, solvents and melted plastics:
>
> >> http://www.fototime.com/inv/E917106F136751F

<snip for brevity>

> that's one hell of a story, Will.
>
> thanks for sharing.

I just discovered last night that the story was picked up and used for
one of those joke book paperbacks a few years ago... I never knew,
since I never read those:

http://tinyurl.com/barfield

and

http://tinyurl.com/barfield2

What's the Number for 911?: America's Wackiest 911 Calls
By Leland Gregory
Published by Andrews McMeel Publishing, 2000
ISBN 0740700324, 9780740700323

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In article <2ip670....@news.alt.net>, Meat Plow says...
>
>On Fri, 6 Feb 2009 18:45:24 -0500, "Will Dockery"
><will-dock...@knology.net>wrote:

>
>>I've posted a new gallery of some of my recent abstract paintings, which
>>some of you may have an interest in checking out, for whichever reasons you
>>prefer.
>>
>>These paintings are made with a variety of materials from oil, watercolor
>>and pastel paints, to housepaint, solvents and melted plastics:
>>
>>http://www.fototime.com/inv/E917106F136751F
>>
>>Comments and critique, as with all my work in all forms, is most welcome.
>
>Looks like you put the canvas on the floor and dumped paint on it.

don't be absurd, MP, you're completely off here.

dockery put a canvas on the floor because he can't afford a rug (or much else),
got drunk, and when he passed out he fell into a shelf that had paint cans on
it.

when he woke up 12 hours later, he noticed the paint cans had fallen on the
canvas.

two weeks later, when he finally decided to clean up, THAT'S when he noticed
that he could pass the mess up as something he created.

and in a way he did.

you give him too much credit!!! :D

Orsen Wells w/Citizen Cain

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> Orsen Wells w/Citizen Cain fanged:
>
>> as total shit and a waste of your
>
> boy your a rose aren't you


says the Venus Guy Trap. Go play somewhere else, you poor, pathetic,
post-directing NEWBIE.


Orsen Wells w/Citizen Cain

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"Will Dockery" <will.d...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Feb 7, 6:08 pm, "Charles" wrote:
> "Will Dockery" wrote:
>
> > I've posted a new gallery of some of my recent abstract paintings, which
> > some of you may have an interest in checking out, for whichever reasons
> > you prefer.
>
> > These paintings are made with a variety of materials from oil,
> > watercolor
> > and pastel paints, to housepaint, solvents and melted plastics:
>
> >http://www.fototime.com/inv/E917106F136751F
>
> > Comments and critique, as with all my work in all forms, is most
> > welcome.
>
> I especially like "Black and Blue Night."
>
> Thanks for sharing.

"Black and Blue Night":

http://www.fototime.com/{496A5179-1A5C-46AB-AE9A-B29043A793A4}/picture.JPG

Thanks for having a look, and commenting, Charles. I hope to get a
clearler, sharper shot of this one (and the others) online sometime
soon, as almost two-thirds of this fairly big one is obscured in the
shot.

#So it's HIS fault you're a horrible photographer?


It was freezing, running late, and my friend just took a few
quick shots before we took off for a warm cafe.

#Wow. Lazy in all things. So typically Dockery.


"BaBN" night was made
with all sorts of plastic toys held on a stick and melted onto the
board...

#A fucking ten year old could do the same thing and call it "art."


melted plastic is a fairly dangerous medium to work with, to
say the least! If the lava-like heat doesn't get you (which it always
does at some point, human skin seems to have an almost magnetic effect
on it) then the fumes will.


#Oh yes I am sure you are an expert on "the fumes."

Fascinating experiments, though.


#You're a dumbshit.


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http://www.myspace.com/willdockery


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"Will Dockery" <will-dock...@knology.net> wrote in message
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= snip pointless crap =


>
> That was a great time period where the area was just bursting with great
> artists and poets, which looked like it would expand... poetry readings
> were
> "in" around here for a while, 1995-1999 or so, there was even a city-wide
> "best of" in music, arts, poetry, the Perky Awards which I took in 1998:
>
> http://www.fototime.com/{030189BB-B6FD-45B8-ACDF-8F90760C28FB}/picture.JPG


Did the Perky Awards honor slovenlyness and narcisstic behavior? Or maybe
I'm thinking of the Golden Globes.

>
> As the Bush era unfolded, coincidentally much of that kind of ground down,
> people drifted apart, and I began working more and more with rock and
> blues
> music, and deal in that crowd more now.


So Dockery blames Bush for his current state of mental health. The sad part
is, that could actually work.


Orsen Wells w/Citizen Cain

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"Meat Plow" <me...@petitmorte.net> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 6 Feb 2009 18:45:24 -0500, "Will Dockery"
> <will-dock...@knology.net>wrote:

>
>>I've posted a new gallery of some of my recent abstract paintings, which
>>some of you may have an interest in checking out, for whichever reasons
>>you
>>prefer.
>>
>>These paintings are made with a variety of materials from oil, watercolor
>>and pastel paints, to housepaint, solvents and melted plastics:
>>
>>http://www.fototime.com/inv/E917106F136751F
>>
>>Comments and critique, as with all my work in all forms, is most welcome.
>
> Looks like you put the canvas on the floor and dumped paint on it.


that ain't all paint


FarStar

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>

> "Will Dockery" <will.d...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:8c23cd33-a963-4e16...@u13g2000yqg.googlegroups.com...
> On Feb 7, 6:08 pm, "Charles" wrote:


so what, you're an aborted baby orc with a pitchfork through your fish-head
supper, yum


-------------------------------------------------------------------
Subjugate the rhyme and rawk with the rhythm
Only got one line to balk all the schizm

with god and laugh, bring all to shocking rose
with rod and staff we walk a rocky road

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FarStar

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Waaa, I think you really hurt my feelings, go write something and show how
all your hard work has made you a really great poet.
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-------------------------------------------------------------------
Subjugate the rhyme and rawk with the rhythm
Only got one line to balk all the schizm

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> Orsen Wells w/Citizen Cain wrote:
>
>>
>> "FarStar" <ecowb...@gmailREMOVEME.com> wrote in message
>> news:p_GdnQdPOr9yOBPU...@giganews.com...
>>> Orsen Wells w/Citizen Cain fanged:
>>>
>>>> as total shit and a waste of your
>>>
>>> boy your a rose aren't you
>>
>>
>> says the Venus Guy Trap. Go play somewhere else, you poor, pathetic,
>> post-directing NEWBIE.
>
>
> Waaa, I think you really hurt my feelings, go write something and show how
> all your hard work has made you a really great poet.


follow-up directing newbie homo sez what?


Go suck Will off some more, you pathetic twit. I hear he enjoys it.


Orsen Wells w/Citizen Cain

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> Orsen Wells w/Citizen Cain fanged:
>
>>
>> "Will Dockery" <will.d...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:8c23cd33-a963-4e16...@u13g2000yqg.googlegroups.com...
>> On Feb 7, 6:08 pm, "Charles" wrote:
>
>
> so what, you're an aborted baby orc with a pitchfork through your
> fish-head
> supper, yum
>


You are truly a sad piece of shit.


Orsen Wells w/Citizen Cain

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> Orsen Wells w/Citizen Cain fanged:
>
>>
>> "Will Dockery" <will.d...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:df0435a9-a0dd-439d...@j39g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...
>> On Feb 7, 4:13 pm, FarStar wrote:
>>
>
> dorcus, get off my channel


This isn't a channel you fuckin' moron, it's a NEWSGROUP.


FarStar

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>my dick would feel good up your ass

your imagination gets the better of you penis

FarStar

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>I'm going to try to belittle some because it gets my dick harder

big-shooter, whoo

FarStar

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>I'm going to belittle you to and see if you suck my dick

can't suck an imagination
--

Orsen Wells w/Citizen Cain

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> Orsen Wells w/Citizen Cain fanged:
>
>>I'm going to try to belittle some because it gets my dick harder
>
> big-shooter, whoo
> --


I see Duckery has taught you the stupider points of post-editing.
Congratulations on achieving such a monumental waypoint of stupidity.


Orsen Wells w/Citizen Cain

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> Orsen Wells w/Citizen Cain fanged:
>
>>I'm going to belittle you to and see if you suck my dick
>
> can't suck an imagination

Geez, and here I thought there wasn't anyone lower than Duckery on the
post-editing scale.


Orsen Wells w/Citizen Cain

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"FarStar" <ecowb...@gmailREMOVEME.com> wrote in message
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> Orsen Wells w/Citizen Cain fanged:
>
>>my dick would feel good up your ass
>
> your imagination gets the better of you penis
>


Dude, if you're gay, you don't have to post-edit to try to prove it. I'm
sure Dockery will join you at a gloryhole somewhere.


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"msifg" wrote:
> "George Dance" wrote:
>
> Maybe Dale wants a new name for himself. I'll work on that. So far the
> best I have is "Pale Hammesimitation", but that's a bit lengthy. I'll
> try some recursions. 8)
>
> > see, i've got some luck.
>
> *hoseman works for me.
>
> heh

Whatever happened to "Drayton August Malvershon"?

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Vocals: Will Dockery. Music: The Shadowville Allstars. Based on
"Greybeard Cavalier" by Will Dockery, 0x0000 and Brian Fowler.
Video by Doug Cole

On The Highways and Bi-Ways God Built

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In article <2irna9....@news.alt.net>, Meat Plow says...
>
>On 10 Feb 2009 10:28:37 -0800, On The Highways and Bi-Ways God Built
><GodBui...@Yahoo.com>wrote:

>
>>In article <2ip670....@news.alt.net>, Meat Plow says...
>>>
>>>On Fri, 6 Feb 2009 18:45:24 -0500, "Will Dockery"
>>><will-dock...@knology.net>wrote:
>>>
>>>>I've posted a new gallery of some of my recent abstract paintings, which
>>>>some of you may have an interest in checking out, for whichever reasons you
>>>>prefer.
>>>>
>>>>These paintings are made with a variety of materials from oil, watercolor
>>>>and pastel paints, to housepaint, solvents and melted plastics:
>>>>
>>>>http://www.fototime.com/inv/E917106F136751F
>>>>
>>>>Comments and critique, as with all my work in all forms, is most welcome.
>>>
>>>Looks like you put the canvas on the floor and dumped paint on it.
>>
>>don't be absurd, MP, you're completely off here.
>>
>>dockery put a canvas on the floor because he can't afford a rug (or much else),
>>got drunk, and when he passed out he fell into a shelf that had paint cans on
>>it.
>>
>>when he woke up 12 hours later, he noticed the paint cans had fallen on the
>>canvas.
>>
>>two weeks later, when he finally decided to clean up, THAT'S when he noticed
>>that he could pass the mess up as something he created.
>>
>>and in a way he did.
>>
>>you give him too much credit!!! :D
>>
>>most sincerely,
>>
>>GodBuilt
>
>Yes I give Will too much credit but you know what? Besides all his
>idiosyncrasies and his peculiar and absurd behavior, I happen to like
>Will.

hey, i don't hate the crackerking. i feel sorry for him. i think he's a sad
creature and he's led a pretty wasted life. i think he pathetically believes all
his activities actually make him someone important when he's more than likely
the source of derision, embarrassment and ridicule among most people in his
life. i think he illegally takes government assistance while at the same time
collects a wage he doesn't pay taxes on, using resources other, more needy
people could be using, but i don't hate him.

you can't really hate his crackerness, you can only feel sorry for him.

Will Dockery

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Meat Plow says...

>"Will Dockery" wrote:
>
> >>I've posted a new gallery of some of my recent abstract paintings, which
> >>some of you may have an interest in checking out, for whichever reasons you prefer.
>
> >>These paintings are made with a variety of materials from oil, watercolor
> >>and pastel paints, to housepaint, solvents and melted plastics:
>
> >>http://www.fototime.com/inv/E917106F136751F
>
> >>Comments and critique, as with all my work in all forms, is most welcome.
>
> >Looks like you put the canvas on the floor and dumped paint on it.

The style's called "Action Painting":

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Action_painting

"...Action painting, sometimes called "gestural abstraction", is a
style of painting in which paint is spontaneously dribbled, splashed
or smeared onto the canvas, rather than being carefully applied.[1]
The resulting work often emphasizes the physical act of painting
itself as an essential aspect of the finished work or concern of its
artist...'

This part's good:

"...According to Harold Rosenberg the canvas was 'an arena in which to
act' [...] it was the physicality of the paintings' clotted and oil-
caked surfaces that was the key to understanding them as documents of
the artists' existential struggle [...] Rosenberg's critique shifted
the emphasis from the object to the struggle itself, with the finished
painting being only the physical manifestation, a kind of residue, of
the actual work of art, which was in the act or process of the
painting's creation [...] Over the next two decades, Rosenberg's
redefinition of art as an act rather than an object, as a process
rather than a product, was influential, and laid the foundation for a
number of major art movements, from Happenings and Fluxus to
Conceptual, Performance art, Installation art and Earth Art..."

Anyway, thanks for having a look and commenting.

Orsen Wells w/Citizen Cain

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"Meat Plow" <me...@petitmorte.net> wrote in message
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> On 10 Feb 2009 10:28:37 -0800, On The Highways and Bi-Ways God Built
> <GodBui...@Yahoo.com>wrote:
>
> Yes I give Will too much credit but you know what? Besides all his
> idiosyncrasies and his peculiar and absurd behavior, I happen to like
> Will.


And when you sober up?

Orsen Wells w/Citizen Cain

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"On The Highways and Bi-Ways God Built" <GodBui...@Yahoo.com> wrote in
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Exactly, I mean it's one thing to figure that out after time has passed you
by and realize you could redeem your life and still have a shot at what you
want to do, hell adults in their 70s and 80s have gone back to college. But
Dockery is so cluelessly self-absorbed and arrogant that in no way will he
ever be able to fully realize how much he's lost -- and with his current
drug-included state of mind, it's a good bet he never will.


>i think he pathetically believes all
> his activities actually make him someone important

He has compared himself to many famous figures in the past, from Mozart to
Snoopy.


> when he's more than likely
> the source of derision, embarrassment and ridicule among most people in
> his
> life.

Dockery is the type of person people hang around with only because they're
too polite and feel too sorry for him to tell him to go fuck himself.


> i think he illegally takes government assistance while at the same time
> collects a wage he doesn't pay taxes on, using resources other, more needy
> people could be using, but i don't hate him.

I wouldn't doubt if Duckery has dodged a tax time or two in his life. Or at
least a bath.

Orsen Wells w/Citizen Cain

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"Will Dockery" <will.d...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Meat Plow says...
>>"Will Dockery" wrote:
>>
>> >>I've posted a new gallery of some of my recent abstract paintings,
>> >>which
>> >>some of you may have an interest in checking out, for whichever reasons
>> >>you prefer.
>>
>> >>These paintings are made with a variety of materials from oil,
>> >>watercolor
>> >>and pastel paints, to housepaint, solvents and melted plastics:
>>
>> >>http://www.fototime.com/inv/E917106F136751F
>>
>> >>Comments and critique, as with all my work in all forms, is most
>> >>welcome.
>>
>> >Looks like you put the canvas on the floor and dumped paint on it.
>
> The style's called "Action Painting":


Looks more like "Lazy Drunken Crap" to me.


Will Dockery

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On The Highways and Bi-Ways God Built wrote:

>"Will Dockery" wrote:
>
>>I've posted a new gallery of some of my recent abstract paintings, which
>>some of you may have an interest in checking out, for whichever reasons you prefer.
>
>>These paintings are made with a variety of materials from oil, watercolor
>>and pastel paints, to housepaint, solvents and melted plastics:
>
>>http://www.fototime.com/inv/E917106F136751F
>
>>Comments and critique, as with all my work in all forms, is most welcome.
>
> dockery put a canvas on the floor because he can't afford a rug (or much else),
> got drunk,

Actually, it was the combined fumes of all the paints, solvents and
melted plastics, but close enough.

and when he passed out he fell into a shelf that had paint cans on
it.
> when he woke up 12 hours later, he noticed the paint cans had fallen on the canvas.
> two weeks later, when he finally decided to clean up, THAT'S when he noticed
> that he could pass the mess up as something he created. and in a way he did.

Amazingly, that's exactly how it happened!

A "charming" collection of work, as Dale Houseman would proclaim, if
he had created it.

Orsen Wells w/Citizen Cain

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"Will Dockery" <will.d...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On The Highways and Bi-Ways God Built wrote:
>>"Will Dockery" wrote:
>>
>>>I've posted a new gallery of some of my recent abstract paintings, which
>>>some of you may have an interest in checking out, for whichever reasons
>>>you prefer.
>>
>>>These paintings are made with a variety of materials from oil, watercolor
>>>and pastel paints, to housepaint, solvents and melted plastics:
>>
>>>http://www.fototime.com/inv/E917106F136751F
>>
>>>Comments and critique, as with all my work in all forms, is most welcome.
>>
>> dockery put a canvas on the floor because he can't afford a rug (or much
>> else),
>> got drunk,
>
> Actually, it was the combined fumes of all the paints, solvents and
> melted plastics, but close enough.

So you admit you were either stupid enough to not allow for fresh air or you
were simply wanting to get high. Either way it makes you a dumbshit.

>
> and when he passed out he fell into a shelf that had paint cans on
> it.
>> when he woke up 12 hours later, he noticed the paint cans had fallen on
>> the canvas.
>> two weeks later, when he finally decided to clean up, THAT'S when he
>> noticed
>> that he could pass the mess up as something he created. and in a way he
>> did.
>
> Amazingly, that's exactly how it happened!
>


Sadly, that is no surprise.


Will Dockery

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On Feb 11, 12:27 pm, Meat Plow wrote:
>On The Highways and Bi-Ways God Built wrote:
> >Meat Plow says...

> >>"Will Dockery" wrote:
>
> >>>I've posted a new gallery of some of my recent abstract paintings, which some of you may have an interest in checking out, for whichever reasons you prefer.
>
>>>>These paintings are made with a variety of materials from oil, watercolor
>>>>and pastel paints, to housepaint, solvents and melted plastics:
>
>>>>http://www.fototime.com/inv/E917106F136751F
>
>>>>Comments and critique, as with all my work in all forms, is most welcome.
>
>>>Looks like you put the canvas on the floor and dumped paint on it.
>
> >dockery put a canvas on the floor because he can't afford a rug (or much else),
> >got drunk, and when he passed out he fell into a shelf that had paint cans on it.
>
> >when he woke up 12 hours later, he noticed the paint cans had fallen on the canvas.
>
> >two weeks later, when he finally decided to clean up, THAT'S when he noticed
> >that he could pass the mess up as something he created.
>
> >and in a way he did.
>
> Yes I give Will too much credit but you know what? Besides all his
> idiosyncrasies and his peculiar and absurd behavior, I happen to like
> Will.

Well, anyone who sticks their neck out by doing abstract art probably
knows full well that comments like the usual ones are sure to
follow... but I've always loved that kind of art and sure take
pleasure in creating them, so all that's worth it.

Dale Houstman

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Orsen Wells w/Citizen Cain wrote:
The funny thing? He thinks his "paintings" possess a "style"...

dmh

Orsen Wells w/Citizen Cain

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"Will Dockery" <will.d...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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You enjoy creating pieces of shit? You must eat a lot of fiber.


Orsen Wells w/Citizen Cain

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Well if crap is a style...


Will Dockery

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Dale Houstman wrote:
>"Will Dockery" wrote:
>
>>> I've posted a new gallery of some of my recent abstract paintings, which
>>> some of you may have an interest in checking out, for whichever reasons you prefer.
>>> These paintings are made with a variety of materials from oil,
>>> watercolor
>>> and pastel paints, to housepaint, solvents and melted plastics:
>
>>>http://www.fototime.com/inv/E917106F136751F
>
>>> Comments and critique, as with all my work in all forms, is most
>>> welcome.
>
>> Looks like you put the canvas on the floor and dumped paint on it.
>> The style's called "Action Painting":
>
> The funny thing? He thinks his "paintings" possess a "style"...

Even funnier is your self-critique yesterday where you confess you
find your "Today Was Pot Holder Day" poem "charming"... that pretty
much reveals all we need to know about your jealous complaints.

--
Abstract paintings of Will Dockery:
http://www.fototime.com/inv/E917106F136751F

Orsen Wells w/Citizen Cain

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"Will Dockery" <will.d...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Dale Houstman wrote:
>>"Will Dockery" wrote:
>>
>>>> I've posted a new gallery of some of my recent abstract paintings,
>>>> which
>>>> some of you may have an interest in checking out, for whichever reasons
>>>> you prefer.
>>>> These paintings are made with a variety of materials from oil,
>>>> watercolor
>>>> and pastel paints, to housepaint, solvents and melted plastics:
>>
>>>>http://www.fototime.com/inv/E917106F136751F
>>
>>>> Comments and critique, as with all my work in all forms, is most
>>>> welcome.
>>
>>> Looks like you put the canvas on the floor and dumped paint on it.
>>> The style's called "Action Painting":
>>
>> The funny thing? He thinks his "paintings" possess a "style"...
>
> Even funnier is


...the fact that you continue to do the stupid shit you do even after it's
been pointed out to you what a hopeless half-wit you are?


robertal...@gmail.com

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On Feb 6, 11:07 pm, "Orsen Wells w/Citizen Cain"
<noem...@here.invalidd> wrote:
> "WillDockery" <will-dockery-gr...@knology.net> wrote in message
>
> news:6fc28$498ccd9c$4b4c71e9$11...@KNOLOGY.NET...

>
> > I've posted a new gallery of some of my recent abstract paintings, which
>
> mean about as much as a pre-schooler's glitter and glue art.

>
> > some of you may have an interest in checking out,
>
> No.

>
> > for whichever reasons you
> > prefer.
>
> > These paintings are made with a variety of materials from oil, watercolor
> > and pastel paints, to housepaint, solvents and melted plastics:
>
> So basically, you accidentally melted something with one of your cigarettes,
> and decided to put the can of Raid under your sink to something other than
> its intended purpose. In the meantime, you probably vomited and after
> scraping away the top layer, in your delusional and stupid mental state
> decided to call the rest "art."
>
> You're about as much as an artist as a cat walking across a piano is a
> musician.

>
>
>
> >http://www.fototime.com/inv/E917106F136751F
>
> > Comments and critique, as with all my work in all forms, is most welcome.
>
> It sucks, your work is worthless and would be better off being used to
> psychologically torture 9/11 conspirators.
>
>
>
> > --
> > "I Might Be a Girl" and other song-poems by WillDockery:
> >http://www.myspace.com/willdockery- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

As I posted earlier, I am looking for some fine abstract art of: weeds
growing through cracks in the ashpalt, empty sheet music with rocks on
it, photos of computers with various junk around it, glass jars in
windows, pictures of ugly pool tables, pictures of empty rooms,
pictures of motels marked Red Carpet Inn, self portraits of people who
want to appear like Saint Paul, pictures of empty lots with sheds on
them. Can anyone help me find fine abstract art such as this, or
point me to an artist who may have creative pieces such as this? I
especially like photos. Thanks to anyone in the art world who could
help.

Will Dockery

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robertalberth...@gmail.com wrote:

>"WillDockery" wrote:
>
> > > These paintings are made with a variety of materials from oil, watercolor
> > > and pastel paints, to housepaint, solvents and melted plastics:
>
> > >http://www.fototime.com/inv/E917106F136751F
>
> > > Comments and critique, as with all my work in all forms, is most welcome.
>
> > > "Twilight Girl" and other song-poems by Will Dockery:
> > >http://www.myspace.com/willdockery
>

> As I posted earlier, I am looking for some fine abstract art of: weeds
> growing through cracks in the ashpalt, empty sheet music with rocks on
> it, photos of computers with various junk around it, glass jars in
> windows, pictures of ugly pool  tables, pictures of empty rooms,
> pictures of motels marked Red Carpet Inn, self portraits of people who
> want to appear like Saint Paul, pictures of empty lots with sheds on
> them.  Can anyone help me find fine abstract art such as this, or
> point me to an artist who may have creative pieces such as this?  I
> especially like photos.  Thanks to anyone in the art world who could
> help.

I think I might know just the artist for you... I'll look for the
link.

0x0000

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On Feb 7, 7:24 am, Dale Houstman <d...@skypoint.com> wrote:

> Will Dockery wrote:
> > I've posted a new gallery of some of my recent abstract paintings, which
> > some of you may have an interest in checking out, for whichever reasons you
> > prefer.
>

> > These paintings are made with a variety of materials from oil, watercolor
> > and pastel paints, to housepaint, solvents and melted plastics:
>
> >http://www.fototime.com/inv/E917106F136751F
>
> > Comments and critique, as with all my work in all forms, is most welcome.
>
> They are all pretty much the same apart from being different colors. I
> suppose you think they're akin to Pollack's work, but Pollack is one of
> those figures (like "e.e. cummings" in poetry) who - although marvelous
> in their own right - have served as "bad examples" and invitations to
> laziness for an entire generation of artists. With "cummings" it is the
> notion that if one just puts in enough punctuation, splits up words,
> spells words oddly, etc. then poetry is inevitable. The Beats obviously
> serve a similar function for you and many other mediocre-to-terrible
> performance "artists". Here - in your "paintings" - you seem to think if
> you dribble enough colored crap on a canvas, it must - by some universal
> law of cosmic kindness - create a work which is the perfect expression
> of some inner passion you pretend to feel. But they are just charmless
> masses of direction-less non-intent. The contrast with Pollack's works
> is instructive: despite his being called a "dribbler" his works reveal
> intent, there is strength, energy, and a "rush toward an answer" to his
> lines: he is truly finding the "expression" in "abstract expressionism".
> Yours are an (unintentional and unfunny) parody of his accomplishments,
> more a critique of what those who disliked his work thought his work was
> than an understanding of his vision.

Amazing. You fell for Pollack hook, line, and sinker. Sounds like
you're not really qualified in the area of criticism of Art, DMH. At
least, you've failed to establish any creds for yourself with /that/
paragraph of "suck-up-to-the-faggy-new-york-art-crowd-at-the-expense-
of-local-folk-artists" drivel. Thanks for playing. Hope you do
better next time...

>
> Yes Jackson also used housepaint, which has led to a set of preservation
> problems: you needn't worry that this will happen in your case - not one
> of these "paintings" needs to survive past next week.
>
> dmh

0x0000

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Feb 15, 2009, 7:26:57 PM2/15/09
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On Feb 7, 11:01 am, George Dance <georgedanc...@yahoo.ca> wrote:
> On Feb 7, 9:05 am, Savageduck <savaged...@savage.net> wrote:
> > > Yes Jackson also used housepaint, which has led to a set of
> > > preservation problems: you needn't worry that this will happen in your
> > > case - not one of these "paintings" needs to survive past next week.
>
> > > dmh
>
> > Pollock is much maligned.
> > Most of those who ridicule his work have not experienced it, only
> > imagine that they are capable of similar work without his artistry and
> > intellect (alcohol not withstanding) they never attain his result. He
> > was unique.
>
> Well, one major difference was that Pollock, unlike so many of his
> imitators, was not just an "artist" but a painter; so he knew and was
> able to use traditional rules or tools of composition in his work. Too
> many wannabe "artists" never take the time to learn to be painters,
> just as too many wannabe poets never take the time to learn to be
> writers.

By the same token, however, many - I would say most - of those who
train in disciplines like writing and painting and music never manage
to reach a point where their efforts can properly be called "Art".
The phenomenon of "hack" writing is fairly well-known and well-
understood. The hack artists get away with a bit more because fewer
people are willing to assert their own ability to label Art as "crap"
or "not crap". This is mostly due to the brainwashing we receive in
school, and throughout society.

Hack musicians tend to be the worst offenders simply because anyone
who can do anything that sounds even remotely "musical" (i.e. make a
sound on an instrument") /and/ who is not embarrassed to perform in
front of people can plausibly pass as a "musician" and will draw an
audience (a crowd) if they are in some way more interesting than
whatever it is the victim (audience) was doing before the hack began
performing. A good example of this is the so-called "country/rock
bar band" that is so pervasive through-out this region (the Bible
Belt, USA). Typically these guys can imitate quite well - sometimes
almost flawlessly - those people who actually make the music to begin
with, but they usually do not have the ability to actually transcend
the copying of someone else's work to make music as Art, independent
of the commerce that has come to control who gets to hear what, these
days...

Anyway. You really should not, imo, discourage people from trying to
engage in the Arts - regardless of their level of "training". That's
what's killing the Arts - no ordinary mortal person these days
believes they are "good enough". Of course, they may not be, but as a
critic, you should be far more concerned with what any given wannabe
is gonna do /next/ than with picking apart what you believe to be
problems with what they've already done. Unless, of course, you're
one of those people who believe that Art can come from places like
American Idol, in which case I have no real interest in reading or
hearing anything you may have to say on the subject....

>
>
>
> > Here is Pollock #2 at the Munson Williams Procter Arts Institute Utica
> > NY,http://snipr.com/7or04-wiksca
> > MWPhttp://www.mwpai.org/museum/collections/modernandcontemporary/
>
> > --
> > Regards,
> > Savageduck

0x0000

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On Feb 10, 1:22 pm, Meat Plow <m...@petitmorte.net> wrote:
> On Fri, 6 Feb 2009 18:45:24 -0500, "Will Dockery"
> <will-dockery-gr...@knology.net>wrote:

>
> >I've posted a new gallery of some of my recent abstract paintings, which
> >some of you may have an interest in checking out, for whichever reasons you
> >prefer.
>
> >These paintings are made with a variety of materials from oil, watercolor
> >and pastel paints, to housepaint, solvents and melted plastics:
>
> >http://www.fototime.com/inv/E917106F136751F
>
> >Comments and critique, as with all my work in all forms, is most welcome.
>
> Looks like you put the canvas on the floor and dumped paint on it.

Where'd you see a canvas? Oh, you assumed... nevermind.

You might want to get into the media info a bit more, though, Will -
Apparently some of these bozos never saw the "... on board" part at
the art school they went to - musta been up east somewhere folk can
afford luxuries like canvas and oils. ... Of course, one of the
things I learned while not taking Art class in High School is that
many famous works by painters are not on canvas at all. some of them
are even done using *oh-horrors-mrs-thruston-lovey-howell* "FOUND
MATERIALS"! Of course, you're probably wasting your time with this
crowd, they still haven't figured out that Art is not something that's
taught in a class - only Technique. And they seem further incapable
of distinguishing Technique from Art. .... *phaw*

0x0000

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On Feb 10, 1:28 pm, On The Highways and Bi-Ways God Built
<GodBuilt1...@Yahoo.com> wrote:
> In article <2ip670.5i3.1...@news.alt.net>, Meat Plow says...

>
>
>
>
>
> >On Fri, 6 Feb 2009 18:45:24 -0500, "Will Dockery"
> ><will-dockery-gr...@knology.net>wrote:
>
> >>I've posted a new gallery of some of my recent abstract paintings, which
> >>some of you may have an interest in checking out, for whichever reasons you
> >>prefer.
>
> >>These paintings are made with a variety of materials from oil, watercolor
> >>and pastel paints, to housepaint, solvents and melted plastics:
>
> >>http://www.fototime.com/inv/E917106F136751F
>
> >>Comments and critique, as with all my work in all forms, is most welcome.
>
> >Looks like you put the canvas on the floor and dumped paint on it.
>
> don't be absurd, MP, you're completely off here.
>
> dockery put a canvas on the floor because he can't afford a rug (or much else),
> got drunk, and when he passed out he fell into a shelf that had paint cans on
> it.
>
> when he woke up 12 hours later, he noticed the paint cans had fallen on the
> canvas.
>
> two weeks later, when he finally decided to clean up, THAT'S when he noticed
> that he could pass the mess up as something he created.
>
> and in a way he did.
>
> you give him too much credit!!! :D
>
> most sincerely,
>
> GodBuilt

Not so, GB - I have personal knowledge of the creation of those
works.

What you're describing more resembles the creation of that
$3,000,000,000 tarpaulin that Jackson Pollock's agent got hung over
the concourse in Hartsfield International - you could even see the
rectangular cuts where he had cut out several of his other "works".
Yeah, Pollock was a painter - a /house/ painter. He just found a way
to recycle the tarps he was using as drop cloths. Doh.

I sell you a lunch box for $200, it's Art. De facto. Even if the
lunch box isn't, the sale is.

Orsen Wells w/Citizen Cain

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"0x0000" <pdw...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Doesn't Will leave a bad taste in your mouth? Or do you use mouthwash after
you two are done?


Dale Houstman

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0x0000 wrote:

>
> Amazing. You fell for Pollack hook, line, and sinker. Sounds like
> you're not really qualified in the area of criticism of Art, DMH. At
> least, you've failed to establish any creds for yourself with /that/
> paragraph of "suck-up-to-the-faggy-new-york-art-crowd-at-the-expense-
> of-local-folk-artists" drivel. Thanks for playing. Hope you do
> better next time...
>


I guess all those years of being top student at an Art School, studying
the history and the practice of art, plus having spent only my entire
lifetime creating art of various sorts just didn't pay off.

By the way, genius - your writing lacks impact, as it fails to logically
address its target's flaws, and ends by being merely a snarky rant
rather than an intelligent riposte. I suggest you return to high school
writing classes, and try to gain a little expertise in simple communication.

dmh

Will Dockery

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On Feb 15, 7:10 pm, 0x0000 wrote:

Most likely he won't, since Dale's too busy being charmed by his own
30 year old navel gazings to do much of anything else, these days.

--
Shadowville Speedway CD info:
http://www.wikinfo.org/index.php/Shadowville_Speedway

msifg

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"Dale Houstman" <dm...@skypoint.com> wrote in message
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"top student."

and look at you now:
top asshole.

i guess being at the top of something is
pretty important for you.

congratulations on the whole "top" thing.

let me top it off by mentioning that you're
now a top dipshit nobody who's opinion means
about as much as a pimples opinion on a dogs
ass.

how's that for a "top?"

Will Dockery

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On Feb 16, 6:52 am, Dale Houstman wrote:
> 0x0000 wrote:
>
> > Amazing.  You fell for Pollack hook, line, and sinker.  Sounds like
> > you're not really qualified in the area of criticism of Art, DMH.  At
> > least, you've failed to establish any creds for yourself with /that/
> > paragraph of "suck-up-to-the-faggy-new-york-art-crowd-at-the-expense-
> > of-local-folk-artists" drivel.  Thanks for playing.  Hope you do
> > better next time...
>
> I guess all those years of being top student at an Art School, studying
> the history and the practice of art, plus having spent only my entire
> lifetime creating art of various sorts just didn't pay off.

Honestly, it just doesn't seem to have "paid off" for you, really...
no matter how "charmed" you are by your own navel gazing.

After all, what are you, exactly, besides just another Usenet whiner?

Orsen Wells w/Citizen Cain

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"Will Dockery" <will.d...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Better a navel than a mirror like a narcisstic dickhead like you


Will Dockery

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"On The Highways and Bi-Ways God Built" wrote:
>Will Dockery says...

>
> >I've posted a new gallery of some of my recent abstract paintings, which
> >some of you may have an interest in checking out, for whichever reasons
you prefer.
> >
> >These paintings are made with a variety of materials from oil, watercolor
> >and pastel paints, to housepaint, solvents and melted plastics:
>>
>> http://www.fototime.com/inv/E917106F136751F
>>
>>Comments and critique, as with all my work in all forms, are most welcome.
>
> this is most interesting.

And even more interesting to create, sometimes. In fact, the /creation/ of
Action Paintings is considered to be a form of "performance art".

--
"Ozone Stigmata", by Will Dockery & Henry Conley, guest mandolinist, Brian
Fowler:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxfl_7KvFcc


Orsen Wells w/Citizen Cain

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"Will Dockery" <will.d...@knology.net> wrote in message
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>
> "On The Highways and Bi-Ways God Built" wrote:
>>Will Dockery says...
>>
>> >I've posted a new gallery of some of my recent abstract paintings, which
>> >some of you may have an interest in checking out, for whichever reasons
> you prefer.
>> >
>> >These paintings are made with a variety of materials from oil,
>> >watercolor
>> >and pastel paints, to housepaint, solvents and melted plastics:
>>>
>>> http://www.fototime.com/inv/E917106F136751F
>>>
>>>Comments and critique, as with all my work in all forms, are most
>>>welcome.
>>
>> this is most interesting.
>
> And even more interesting to create, sometimes. In fact, the /creation/ of
> Action Paintings is considered to be a form of "performance art".
>

BWAH HA HA HA HA HA HAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA


OH MAN

just...OH MAN


WHAT THE FUCK

HAHAHAHHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA


Will Dockery

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On Feb 16, 7:15 am, "msifg" wrote:

> "Dale Houstman" wrote:
> > 0x0000 wrote:
>
> >> Amazing.  You fell for Pollack hook, line, and sinker.  Sounds like
> >> you're not really qualified in the area of criticism of Art, DMH.  At
> >> least, you've failed to establish any creds for yourself with /that/
> >> paragraph of "suck-up-to-the-faggy-new-york-art-crowd-at-the-expense-
> >> of-local-folk-artists" drivel.  Thanks for playing.  Hope you do
> >> better next time...
>
> > I guess all those years of being top student at an Art School, studying
> > the history and the practice of art, plus having spent only my entire
> > lifetime creating art of various sorts just didn't pay off.
> >
> > dmh
>
> "top student."
>
> and look at you now:
> top asshole.
>
> i guess being at the top of something is
> pretty important for you.
>
> congratulations on the whole "top" thing.
>
> let me top it off by mentioning that you're
> now a top dipshit nobody who's opinion means
> about as much as a pimples opinion on a dogs
> ass.
>
> how's that for a "top?"

Oh, Dale Houstman finds himself "charmed" at whatever position he
finds himself... heh.

--
"Ozone Stigmata", by Will Dockery & Henry Conley, guest mandolin by
Brian Fowler:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxfl_7KvFcc

Will Dockery

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Mar 2, 2009, 10:59:55 PM3/2/09
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Here's a few abstract paintings made by our friend George Sulzbach,
some really interesting stuff that I'm hoping to help him get online
and sell prints of soon:

http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=92593&id=620409362&l=37aa2

Sulzbach is also the illustrator of the upcoming "Shadowville
Speedway" cd album.

0x0000 <pdwi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Feb 7, 11:01 am, George Dance <georgedanc...@yahoo.ca> wrote:
> > > > Will Dockery wrote:
> > > >> I've posted a new gallery of some of my recent abstract paintings, which
> > > >> some of you may have an interest in checking out, for whichever reasons you
> > > >> prefer.
> >
> > > >> These paintings are made with a variety of materials from oil, watercolor
> > > >> and pastel paints, to housepaint, solvents and melted plastics:
> >
> > > >>http://www.fototime.com/inv/E917106F136751F
>

--
"Shadowville Speedway" and other song-poems:
http://www.myspace.com/willdockery

msifg

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"Will Dockery" <will.d...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Here's a few abstract paintings made by our friend George Sulzbach,
some really interesting stuff that I'm hoping to help him get online
and sell prints of soon:

http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=92593&id=620409362&l=37aa2

Sulzbach is also the illustrator of the upcoming "Shadowville
Speedway" cd album.


*hey,
that's really cool stuff, Will.

i'm not top student in an art school,
but i know what i like. hehe

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