So who wants 2.8um pixels on the next Nikon?
RichA
fingerprints and look awful.
http://nikonrumors.com/2009/02/06/nikon-d400-specs-24mp-touchscreen.aspx
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"RichA" <rande...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Rampant rumours about the D400. I don't like touchscreens, they show
> fingerprints and look awful.
>
> http://nikonrumors.com/2009/02/06/nikon-d400-specs-24mp-touchscreen.aspx
That would presume that a 35 mp fullframe sensor was available. Oh wait the
rumour claims it's fullframe...
eNo
> "RichA" <rander3...@gmail.com> wrote in message
It's be hard to imagine it being full frame. More than likely it will
stay as APS-C. Nikon already have the D700 (D3 derivative) which is
full frame and only a few months old.
Robert Coe
: Rampant rumours about the D400. I don't like touchscreens, they show
: fingerprints and look awful.
That's good enough for me, Rich. I won't buy one.
Bob (self-confessed Canon owner)
dave cohen
Maybe not for Cameras, but for small devices such as GPS that's the only
practical choice pending full voice recognition. While I too don't like
the idea of touch screens (like wives that put their dirty paws on nice
new flat monitors), in practice I haven't had any problems with GPS that
a gentle wipe with a clean cloth won't cure. In the case of cameras, I
would have to see, if it saves a lot of menu selection then perhaps.
Dave Cohen
Dudley Hanks
"dave cohen" <us...@example.net> wrote in message
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The problem with touch screens is they exclude a number of population
segments: read low vision and mobility impaired.
If manufacturers go this route, I hope they provide some alternate access to
settings as well.
Take Care,
Dudley
Alan Browne
> "dave cohen" <us...@example.net> wrote in message
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>> Robert Coe wrote:
>>> On Fri, 6 Feb 2009 12:32:45 -0800 (PST), RichA <rande...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> : Rampant rumours about the D400. I don't like touchscreens, they show
>>> : fingerprints and look awful.
>>>
>>> That's good enough for me, Rich. I won't buy one.
>>>
>>> Bob (self-confessed Canon owner)
>> Maybe not for Cameras, but for small devices such as GPS that's the only
>> practical choice pending full voice recognition. While I too don't like
>> the idea of touch screens (like wives that put their dirty paws on nice
>> new flat monitors), in practice I haven't had any problems with GPS that a
>> gentle wipe with a clean cloth won't cure. In the case of cameras, I would
>> have to see, if it saves a lot of menu selection then perhaps.
>> Dave Cohen
>
> The problem with touch screens is they exclude a number of population
> segments: read low vision and mobility impaired.
While I confess I'm confused by your recent adventures, practicing
photographers are less likely to have vision impairment and not many are
mobility impaired compared many other hobby pursuits.
> If manufacturers go this route, I hope they provide some alternate access to
> settings as well.
You'd possibly be disappointed. There are a few buttons on the front of
my television, blu-ray player and DVR, but there is absolutely no way to
access and control all functions that way.
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"Alan Browne" <alan....@Freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote in message
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Yeah, that's becoming more and more of a challenge for the blind community.
Ipods are all but off limits, as are PDAs. Eventually, a
disability-specific alternative hits the market, but they tend to be about
10 times more expensive and usually inferior.
Oh, well, as long as I don't have to search through a menu to click the
shutter, I'll find a way to make it work.
Take Care,
Dudley
Dudley Hanks
"Savageduck" <savag...@savage.net> wrote in message
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> On 2009-02-15 19:07:34 -0800, "Dudley Hanks"
>
>>
>> "dave cohen" <us...@example.net> wrote in message
>> news:gnak6t$5sb$1...@news.motzarella.org...
>>> Robert Coe wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 6 Feb 2009 12:32:45 -0800 (PST), RichA <rande...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> : Rampant rumours about the D400. I don't like touchscreens, they show
>>>> : fingerprints and look awful.
>>>>
>>>> That's good enough for me, Rich. I won't buy one.
>>>>
>>>> Bob (self-confessed Canon owner)
>>>
>>> Maybe not for Cameras, but for small devices such as GPS that's the only
>>> practical choice pending full voice recognition. While I too don't like
>>> the idea of touch screens (like wives that put their dirty paws on nice
>>> new flat monitors), in practice I haven't had any problems with GPS that
>>> a
>>> gentle wipe with a clean cloth won't cure. In the case of cameras, I
>>> would
>>> have to see, if it saves a lot of menu selection then perhaps.
>>> Dave Cohen
>>
>> The problem with touch screens is they exclude a number of population
>> segments: read low vision and mobility impaired.
>
> and smudge issues do not seem to make a touch screen a realistic option
> for a DSLR.
>>
>> If manufacturers go this route, I hope they provide some alternate access
>> to
>> settings as well.
>>
>> Take Care,
>> Dudley
>
> the back of camera buttons moved to a remote control with a few exta
> functions added. (here is where you add your desired custom fantasy
> option) :-)
> --
> Regards,
> Savageduck
>
If a remote would give access to all settings, that could work. It would be
really useful when the cam is mounted on a tripod and I need to change
settings because of varying conditions.
Canon, Nikon, Sony, are you listening?
Take Care,
Dudley
Mike
Example of looking awful please?
Have you looked at iPod Touch etc recently? Minimal Fingerprint
residue and they look fabulous.
N
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>
> If a remote would give access to all settings, that could work. It would
> be really useful when the cam is mounted on a tripod and I need to change
> settings because of varying conditions.
>
> Canon, Nikon, Sony, are you listening?
>
> Take Care,
> Dudley
>
>
Nikon's MC-36 does lots of things and costs way too much.
Bruce
I agree. I have an iPhone 3G (iPod Touch with a cell phone added!) and
expected the very high gloss surface to show every fingermark, but it
doesn't, except in oblique light.
Looking straight at the display, it looks pretty wonderful.
Mike
Rich's poor understanding of modern technology strikes again. He's
probably thinking about touchscreen ATMs which are indeed Very very
poor compared with consumer items like the iPod.
Paul Furman
> On 2009-02-15 19:07:34 -0800, "Dudley Hanks"
> <photos....@dudley-hanks.com> said:
>
>>
>> news:gnak6t$5sb$1...@news.motzarella.org...
>>> Robert Coe wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 6 Feb 2009 12:32:45 -0800 (PST), RichA <rande...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> : Rampant rumours about the D400. I don't like touchscreens, they show
>>>> : fingerprints and look awful.
>>>>
>>>> That's good enough for me, Rich. I won't buy one.
>>>>
>>>> Bob (self-confessed Canon owner)
>>>
>>> Maybe not for Cameras, but for small devices such as GPS that's the only
>>> practical choice pending full voice recognition. While I too don't like
>>> the idea of touch screens (like wives that put their dirty paws on nice
>>> new flat monitors), in practice I haven't had any problems with GPS
>>> that a
>>> gentle wipe with a clean cloth won't cure. In the case of cameras, I
>>> would
>>> have to see, if it saves a lot of menu selection then perhaps.
>>> Dave Cohen
>>
>> The problem with touch screens is they exclude a number of population
>> segments: read low vision and mobility impaired.
>
> and smudge issues do not seem to make a touch screen a realistic option
> for a DSLR.
>>
>> access to
>> settings as well.
Talking menus would do it.
> Now in the satirical spirit of NR, perhaps a 4 inch HD display, with
> all the back of camera buttons moved to a remote control with a few
> exta functions added. (here is where you add your desired custom fantasy
> option) :-)
I'd like a 6-inch HD display for remote operation <g>.
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And no matter what they say, bright sunlight wipes the
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Alan Browne
Direct light on the screen is usually readable. It's when there is
bright light on a bright surface nearby that it's unreadable. For
example when you're wearing a white shirt with the sun in front of you.
You see an image of the shirt in the screen, and of course this makes
the screen near unreadable.
While we might not like the idea of a touch screen camera, there may be
cost benefits in manufacturing that will help keep the body prices down
while increasing reliability.