ISP ending Usenet service: which free/cheap ones are best?
AKT
> Please note that on or around July 15, 2009, AT&T will no longer be
> offering access to the Usenet netnews service.
Does anybody know which free / cheap services are best?
John Navas
<090620090938243222%a...@null.void>:
Tera News <http://www.teranews.com/>
One-time setup fee of $4, no monthly charge:
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Panasonic DMC-FZ28 (and several others)
ray
John McWilliams
Yes.
Savageduck
I am using Panic.com http://www.panic.com/unison/access.php for $9.95/month.
I see you are a Mac/Thoth user. I also paid for Panic's client Unison,
which I find very Mac-centric and intuitive to use, but that would be
your decision. Their Usenet access can be used with whichever client
you want.
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Regards,
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Keith Nuttle
I received the same thing to day. In response I have removed all yahoo
sites form my computer, including the ATT/yahoo home page.
While this may sound petty, if everyone who was a newsgroup user stopped
using yahoo, which is possible, it would reduce yahoo hits and
consequently the amount they can charge for advertisements.
I just set up with aioe.org, I don't know how it will workout.
John Navas
<keith_...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in <h0lvk6$3ve$1...@aioe.org>:
>AKT wrote:
>> My ISP (ATT) just sent this:
>>
>>> Please note that on or around July 15, 2009, AT&T will no longer be
>>> offering access to the Usenet netnews service.
>>
>> Does anybody know which free / cheap services are best?
>
>I received the same thing to day. In response I have removed all yahoo
>sites form my computer, including the ATT/yahoo home page.
>
>While this may sound petty,
To me it sounds silly.
>if everyone who was a newsgroup user stopped
>using yahoo, which is possible, it would reduce yahoo hits and
>consequently the amount they can charge for advertisements.
Probably not enough to notice -- only a tiny minority still use Usenet.
Regardless, what's the point? Spite?
Usenet is dying. Get over it.
whosbest54
whosbest54
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Nobody
"AKT" <a...@null.void> wrote in message
news:090620090938243222%a...@null.void...
both are free, ok most of the time
William Black
>
> "AKT" <a...@null.void> wrote in message
> news:090620090938243222%a...@null.void...
>> My ISP (ATT) just sent this:
>>
>>> Please note that on or around July 15, 2009, AT&T will no longer be
>>> offering access to the Usenet netnews service.
>>
>> Does anybody know which free / cheap services are best?
>
> news.motzarella.org
Seconded.
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Jim Menning
"Nobody" <nob...@cares.invalid> wrote in message
news:h0m9b1$ek6$1...@freespeech.eternal-september.org...
I've tried both of them and also free.teranews.com and textnews.new.cambrium.nl .
But the one I found to be consistently the best was news.albasani.net . They seem to
have lots less downtime and greater retention than most. I also kept the teranews
just for the binaries groups, which albasani doesn't carry.
Rich
And naturally, you ISP will raise their rates on cue, despite this
service cut-back.
John Navas
wrote in
<bd94e6b5-af20-46ed...@j12g2000vbl.googlegroups.com>:
The "service cut-back" affects only a tiny minority of subscribers.
Don Lancaster
news.individual.net works well for us.
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SMS
> AKT wrote:
>> My ISP (ATT) just sent this:
>>
>>> Please note that on or around July 15, 2009, AT&T will no longer be
>>> offering access to the Usenet netnews service.
>>
>> Does anybody know which free / cheap services are best?
>
> news.individual.net works well for us.
OMG, can you autograph my copy of the TTL Cookbook?!
Rich
> On Tue, 9 Jun 2009 13:26:07 -0700 (PDT), Rich <rander3...@gmail.com>
> wrote in
> <bd94e6b5-af20-46ed-b9ad-7e2957467...@j12g2000vbl.googlegroups.com>:
>
> >On Jun 9, 10:38 am, AKT <a...@null.void> wrote:
> >> My ISP (ATT) just sent this:
>
> >> > Please note that on or around July 15, 2009, AT&T will no longer be
> >> > offering access to the Usenet netnews service.
>
> >> Does anybody know which free / cheap services are best?
>
> >And naturally, you ISP will raise their rates on cue, despite this
> >service cut-back.
>
> The "service cut-back" affects only a tiny minority of subscribers.
Which is why they get away with it. It won't affect the Facebook and
Twitter morons.
James E. Morrow
> AKT wrote:
> > My ISP (ATT) just sent this:
> >
> >> Please note that on or around July 15, 2009, AT&T will no longer be
> >> offering access to the Usenet netnews service.
> >
> > Does anybody know which free / cheap services are best?
>
> news.individual.net works well for us.
>
>
the web sites of the various providers.
Options for free or low cost news servers.
Individual.net
Registration required. Price 10 Eros a year. No binaries. No sex
groups. No nonsense. This is a very dependable server for text. Spam
filtering is superior to most other servers I've used.
newsgate. xprivat.org
http://www.x-privat.org/international.php
Registration required. This server in now free. Text and some (few)
binaries. This server is faster than
individual.net but may lack some groups. Its binary completion should
not be depended upon.
Sunsite.dk
Free text only, registration required. This server now only carries
the comp groups.
News.aioe
No registration required. Free server. Text only. Limit of 25 posts
per day.
Motzarella.org
http://motzarella.org/
A free server, registration required.
"Apart from de.* (including de.alt.dateien.*) news.motzarella.org
carries the Big 8, alt.* (approx. 8000 groups) and several regional
hierarchies (more than 200).
For tests, information and support for users of news.motzarella.org the
local hierarchy motzarella.* is open to unregistered users, too.
Retention is currently 1 year for de.*, 40 days for alt.* and 30 days
for the Big 8 and other hierarchies."
***********************************************************************
**********************
Albasani.net
Like Motarella, Albasani.net is free and requires registration. Easy
email registration.
=3FDo you have binary groups?
We have de.alt.dateien.misc and de.alt.dateien.weibsbilder, but none of
the big binary hierarchies.=3F See also
http://albasani.net/technical/cleanfeed.html.en#Binaries_Allowed
Some limits on cross posting across domains.
***********************************************************************
*************************
Astraweb.com
Paid server with block plans.
http://www.news.astraweb.com/downloadplans.html
We are offering $25 for 110GB! Other plans available.
--
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Email to: jamese...@email.com
tony cooper
<jamese...@email.com> wrote:
>http://news.individual.net/
>
>Registration required. Price 10 Eros a year. No binaries. No sex
>groups. No nonsense. This is a very dependable server for text. Spam
>filtering is superior to most other servers I've used.
I've been using news.individual.net ("the German server")for years.
It was free until a couple of years ago. I found it complicated to
pay for the first time because they had to be paid in Euros (10 Euro =
US $14.07), but I paid through credit card with ClickandBuy and still
renew through them. I think they take PayPal now.
--
Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida
ASAAR
>>> Does anybody know which free / cheap services are best?
>>
>> news.individual.net works well for us.
>
> OMG, can you autograph my copy of the TTL Cookbook?!
What, you don't have the RTL Cookbook? Watta noob! :)
John Navas
wrote in
<5164947e-f382-4ba8...@e20g2000vbc.googlegroups.com>:
Like it or not, money talks, and they are the market.
Paul Bartram
"John Navas" <spamf...@navasgroup.com> wrote
> Tera News <http://www.teranews.com/>
> One-time setup fee of $4, no monthly charge:
Teranews has been a bit flaky recently. I can't get into my free account,
despite the member's area saying my account is still valid. They have
another server at public.teranews which says it does not need authorization,
but I can't connect to that either. Have you had any luck with them in the
last few weeks, John?
Paul
John Navas
NEAR lizzy.com.au> wrote in
<4a2f3c48$0$59092$c30e...@pit-reader.telstra.net>:
I don't use Tera News (as you can see from my headers) -- I posted it as
an example of a very low cost service. I can't connect to
public.teranews.com either, and reports suggest it's been having
problems for at least the past few weeks.
Bob Larter
Ask in alt.free.news-servers, they should be able to recommend several.
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Nicko
Funny you should say that. ATT did so already, in April, at least to my
account. Bastards.
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Matt Clara
news:090620090938243222%a...@null.void...
Comcast did the same thing months ago now. CHeck out these guys:
http://usenet-news.net/
They allow you to buy bandwidth by the block, so I paid $10 about 6 months
ago. For that sum I received 30GB of data transfer. I do freqent some
binary groups, like alt.binaries.3d.poser, but even with those images I'm
downloading, in that 6 months I've used less than 1 GB of data. At this
rate, 30GB is going to last 15 years. Best $10 I've spent in some time.
Their retention is good, though not all posts show up--in some instances I'm
not seeing the first post in a thread, but can see all of the responses to
that post and chime in if I'd like--good enough for me!
John Martin
Albasani is free
--
John
Matt Clara
news:slrnh2vgl7.3h...@dogstar.talktalk.net...
Yes, and I have a contract with my provider, along with tech support if
needed, and [insert name of any free usenet provider] users do not.
Don Lancaster
OMG is not currently reachable.
Besides, that would be forgery.
John Turco
>
> My ISP (ATT) just sent this:
>
> > Please note that on or around July 15, 2009, AT&T will no longer be
> > offering access to the Usenet netnews service.
>
> Does anybody know which free / cheap services are best?
Hello, AKT:
I've been using Motzarella (news.motzarella.org), since April of 2008.
It's free (and quite capable), but, requires registration.
Motzarella - User registration
<http://news.motzarella.org/RegisterNewsAccount.php?language=en>
Good luck!
Cordially,
John Turco <jt...@concentric.net>
John Turco
Hello, Keith:
I tried Aioe.org <http://www.aioe.org>, for about a year. It was pretty
good, and yet, it had its quirks...such as, a daily posting limit (which
is 25 articles, according to another author, in this thread).
Then, in April, 2008, I discovered Motzarella (news.motzarella.org); I've
had very few problems, with it.
Motzarella - User registration
<http://news.motzarella.org/RegisterNewsAccount.php?language=en>
Good luck!
Cordially,
John Turco <jt...@concentric.net>
PS: Motzarella was suggested to me, by the late "Blinky the Shark." He
was a regular (and prolific) Usenet contributor, who died on January 31,
2009, at the age of 61.
Very tragic, indeed.
James E. Morrow
@earthlink.net says...
Click and Buy works for me but Citibank false alerts claiming that the
charge is fraudulent. This happens every April Fools Day.
Miles
I was wondering why Blinky has been so quiet. Gee, what a pity as he
was a great contributor to several newsgroups and offered very
friendly and helpful assistance.
Miles
Dan Szymborski
jamese...@email.com says...
I love using Paypal, simply because of the ease of generating
one-time use credit card numbers.
I was on Time Warner and they discontinued usenet. I tried
doing it through Google Groups, but I don't care for reading
usenet in a web format, so I use the free text newsgroup
service at motzarella.org.
--
Dan Szymborski
d...@baseballprimer.com
SMS
> OMG is not currently reachable.
Maybe not by you. I have a direct line.
Atheist Chaplain
news:pPmYl.13072$im1....@nlpi061.nbdc.sbc.com...
> Don Lancaster wrote:
>
>> OMG is not currently reachable.
>
> Maybe not by you. I have a direct line.
time to get your medication levels checked again ;-)
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John Navas
On Thu, 11 Jun 2009 23:45:21 -0700, SMS <scharf...@geemail.com>
wrote in <pPmYl.13072$im1....@nlpi061.nbdc.sbc.com>:
>Don Lancaster wrote:
>
>> OMG is not currently reachable.
>
>Maybe not by you. I have a direct line.
Why am I not surprised. LOL
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"Usenet is like a herd of performing elephants with diarrhea - massive,
difficult to redirect, awe inspiring, entertaining, and a source of mind
boggling amounts of excrement when you least expect it." -Gene Spafford
John Turco
>
> * John Turco wrote, On 6/10/2009 22:28:
<heavily edited for brevity>
> > PS: Motzarella was suggested to me, by the late "Blinky the Shark." He
> > was a regular (and prolific) Usenet contributor, who died on January 31,
> > 2009, at the age of 61.
> >
> > Very tragic, indeed
>
> I was wondering why Blinky has been so quiet. Gee, what a pity as he
> was a great contributor to several newsgroups and offered very
> friendly and helpful assistance.
> Miles
Hello, Miles:
Yes, shortly after returning to news:rec.photo.digital, about a month ago,
I was shocked to learn of his death. (I'd quit checking this newsgroup,
sometime in January, 2009.)
Blinky the Shark's real name was Lee Rizor (1947-2009), incidentally.
Cordially,
John Turco <jt...@concentric.net>
Miles
Guess I (we) could try to send an email to his old address if it can
be found and perhaps his family will read out condolences and compliments.
Miles
Blast of Reality
Do you honestly think that your existence matters to anyone? Soon as you
stop posting on usenet you cease to exist to anyone who reads this nonsense
and it only proves that you have zero importance.
Get a grip.
Watch for the next time that some prolific troll stops posting. See how
often anyone asks, "Hey? What happened to troll-ASSAR? Rich? etc.?" Nobody
ever does. Because their existence really don't matter to anyone. If they
died and some obscure relative (they have no real friends) posted of their
death, it wouldn't effect usenet for more than one post, if lucky.
Catching onto the reality of usenet yet? I figured not.
SMS
> My ISP (ATT) just sent this:
>
>> Please note that on or around July 15, 2009, AT&T will no longer be
>> offering access to the Usenet netnews service.
>
> Does anybody know which free / cheap services are best?
Depending on where you are, you might look for a provider that isn't
discontinuing Usenet, rather than looking for free Usenet service.
But check out "https://news.individual.net/".
Paul Furman
I've been fine with the free motzarella.org service for about a week.
Funny though, when I tried reading this thread last night, I had reached
the daily limit:
http://www.eternal-september.org/
"The number of connections per day and per user has been limited to 1200."
Which is fine really... if I reach that limit I should go out & play in
the sun for a while <g>.
--
Paul Furman
www.edgehill.net
www.baynatives.com
all google groups messages filtered due to spam
Miles
> SMS wrote:
>> AKT wrote:
>>> My ISP (ATT) just sent this:
>>>
>>>> Please note that on or around July 15, 2009, AT&T will no longer be
>>>> offering access to the Usenet netnews service.
>>> Does anybody know which free / cheap services are best?
>> Depending on where you are, you might look for a provider that isn't
>> discontinuing Usenet, rather than looking for free Usenet service.
>>
>> But check out "https://news.individual.net/".
>
> I've been fine with the free motzarella.org service for about a week.
> Funny though, when I tried reading this thread last night, I had reached
> the daily limit:
> http://www.eternal-september.org/
> "The number of connections per day and per user has been limited to 1200."
> Which is fine really... if I reach that limit I should go out & play in
> the sun for a while <g>.
>
Perhaps you are downloading the msgs in their entirety, not simply the
headers?
Lumpy
> Perhaps you are downloading the msgs in their entirety, not simply the
> headers?
From six different, cross-posted newsgroups!
Pay the fuckin' 13 bucks per year for individual.net
from the Univ of Berlin.
Lumpy
In Your Ears for 40 Something Years
www.LumpyMusic.com
Paul Furman
Just headers and I actually read a fairly small percentage. There are 4
photo groups I frequent (11 others I rarely visit but header counts
load) and I use a lot of filters to mark as read as well as marking
cross-posted threads ignored so a whole lot of headers... I kind of
doubt I actually viewed 1,200 messages yesterday though I guess it's
possible... I flip through them pretty quickly with hot keys in thunderbird.
--
John Navas
<lu...@digitalcartography.com> wrote in
<7asd5lF...@mid.individual.net>:
>Miles wrote:
>
>> Perhaps you are downloading the msgs in their entirety, not simply the
>> headers?
>
>From six different, cross-posted newsgroups!
>
>Pay the fuckin' 13 bucks per year for individual.net
>from the Univ of Berlin.
Usenet-News
Current prices for Lifetime Block download accounts
Block size Cost/block
2 GB $ 2.00 1.00 USD/GB
5 GB $ 3.00 0.60 USD/GB
10 GB $ 5.00 0.50 USD/GB
20 GB $ 8.00 0.40 USD/GB
30 GB $ 10.00 0.33 USD/GB
50 GB $ 15.00 0.30 USD/GB
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Best regards,
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Miles
> Miles wrote:
>> * Paul Furman wrote, On 6/29/2009 10:09:
>>> SMS wrote:
>>>> AKT wrote:
>>>>> My ISP (ATT) just sent this:
>>>>>
>>> I've been fine with the free motzarella.org service for about a week.
>>> Funny though, when I tried reading this thread last night, I had
>>> reached the daily limit:
>>> http://www.eternal-september.org/
>>> "The number of connections per day and per user has been limited to
>>> 1200."
>>> Which is fine really... if I reach that limit I should go out & play
>>> in the sun for a while <g>.
>>>
>> Perhaps you are downloading the msgs in their entirety, not simply the
>> headers?
>
> Just headers and I actually read a fairly small percentage. There are 4
> photo groups I frequent (11 others I rarely visit but header counts
> load) and I use a lot of filters to mark as read as well as marking
> cross-posted threads ignored so a whole lot of headers... I kind of
> doubt I actually viewed 1,200 messages yesterday though I guess it's
> possible... I flip through them pretty quickly with hot keys in thunderbird.
>
Interesting, yesterday I registered with motzarella and opened 14
groups with 20,341 msgs. Opened perhaps 100 of those headers to
ascertain importance and mark in red (Thunderbird coloring). Also had
to change all from sort by ascending to descending, but don't believe
that would be seen on their computers.
Paul Furman
Good point. I must have actually opened 1,200 messages yesterday because
when I first set it up I had to download a zillion messages to get up to
date.
Ron Hunter
some news servers don't charge for downloading headers. Giganews
doesn't, and they have 12GB/month for $12.99US. Very reliable, fast,
and great retention. I have no stake on any kind in Giganews, but I am
happy with their value.
SMS
> You don't have to download ANY messages, just the message headers, and
> some news servers don't charge for downloading headers. Giganews
> doesn't, and they have 12GB/month for $12.99US. Very reliable, fast,
> and great retention. I have no stake on any kind in Giganews, but I am
> happy with their value.
If you need the binaries, then paying such a high monthly cost might
make sense.
If you just want the text, then news.individual.net, at 10 EUR/year
(about $14/year) is a much better deal.
dr-...@wi.rr.com
Somewhere between zone 5 and 6 tucked along the shore of Lake Michigan
on the council grounds of the Fox, Mascouten, Potawatomi, and Winnebago
John Turco
>
> * John Turco wrote, On 6/14/2009 00:51:
> > Miles wrote:
> >> * John Turco wrote, On 6/10/2009 22:28:
> >
> > <heavily edited for brevity>
> >
> >>> PS: Motzarella was suggested to me, by the late "Blinky the Shark." He
> >>> was a regular (and prolific) Usenet contributor, who died on January 31,
> >>> 2009, at the age of 61.
> >>>
> >>> Very tragic, indeed
> >> I was wondering why Blinky has been so quiet. Gee, what a pity as he
> >> was a great contributor to several newsgroups and offered very
> >> friendly and helpful assistance.
> >> Miles
> >
> >
> > I was shocked to learn of his death. (I'd quit checking this newsgroup,
> > sometime in January, 2009.)
> >
> > Blinky the Shark's real name was Lee Rizor (1947-2009), incidentally.
>
>
> be found and perhaps his family will read out condolences and compliments.
> Miles
Hello, Miles:
In order to avoid spam, Blinky didn't use a valid e-mail address. He
did, however, operate a number of Web sites, all of which are still
running.
Here are the main ones:
The Usenet Improvement Project
<http://improve-usenet.org>
Blinky? Dogfish?
<http://blinkynet.net>
The Worldwide Squirrel Shooters Association
<http://thewssa.org>
By the way, the above pages all contain this message:
"A Note About the Author
"On February 1st, 2009, Blinky the Shark passed away from an apparent
heart attack. As a result, there will be no further updates directly
to this site, although those who have chosen to mirror it may at some
point decide to continue the quest."
Cordially,
John Turco <jt...@concentric.net>
--
Paintings pain and pun
<http://laughatthepain.blogspot.com>
John Turco
Hello, Miles:
Personally, I only follow four newsgroups, regularly, and always
download all of their messages, for off-line reading. I've never
had any real encounters, with "quotas" of the type that Paul
Furman has alluded to, above.
As for Motzarella (my normal news server), it seemed to be down,
earlier in the week. After a couple of frustrating days, I went
to "eternal September" <http://www.eternal-september.org>, for
further information.
Among other things, this is what I learned:
"2009-07-01 04:54:04 Motzarella servers shut down
As of today, Motzarella.org servers have been replaced by
eternal-september.org servers."
----
"2009-06-30 20:52:37 feeder.motzarella.org has been terminated
All peers who haven't switched to feeder.eternal-september.org
yet, please do so anytime now."
Hence, on Friday (June 3, 2009), in my news reader (Netscape
Communicator 4.8), I removed "news:motzarella.org" and replaced
it with "news:eternal-september.org."
It took quite a bit of trial-and-error work, before I was able
to configure everything and subscribe to my four favorite
groups. I was almost ready to give up, fearing that my aged
Communicator 4.8 (introduced during 2003), from a now-defunct
company, had finally run out of luck.
Fortunately, I persevered, as usual.
Miles
Thank you! I'd forgotten about the 5 improve-usenet.org sites which I
temporarily bookmarked to play with over a year ago, so I'd better do
it now before they disappear!!
Miles
Miles
Fortunately, although I started with motzarella, that same day after
reading the notice on their website deleted motzarella and started
with eternal-september. And it's been working like a charm ever
since! Great that you managed to restore all -- surprised they didn't
devise an easy method to simply change the news server without need of
resubscribing to each newsgroup. (perhaps they did & both of us missed
it.)
Miles
ASAAR
> Fortunately, although I started with motzarella, that same day after
> reading the notice on their website deleted motzarella and started
> with eternal-september. And it's been working like a charm ever
> since! Great that you managed to restore all -- surprised they didn't
> devise an easy method to simply change the news server without need of
> resubscribing to each newsgroup. (perhaps they did & both of us missed
> it.)
There's no easy method for the user. An easy method would have
the new news server query the old news server to try to synchronize
their different article numbers (I don't recall the actual term for
this) and then try to communicate these numbers to your newsreader
to update the article numbers that they use internally to only get
"new" articles. It shouldn't require resubscribing (I've changed
news servers before without resubscribing). That's one way to reset
the server's newsgroup message numbers so that you won't
inadvertently miss any new messages, but it'll have you
redownloading *many* messages you've already seen using the old
server. Whether you resubscribe or not, the problem is that without
correcting the newsreader's message number pointers, you may never
see new articles from some newsgroups, and see too may old
(previously seen) articles for other newsgroups. My newsreader lets
me sample any of the available articles (by message number or by
date), and reset the newsreader's pointer so as to resume
downloading the appropriate "new" replies from where the previous
news server stopped. I'm happy that I've only had to do this twice
over the years, and not recently. Many other newsreaders should
have similar capabilities, but I'm not familiar with them.
Paul Furman
I run thunderbird through newsproxy for added filtering ability so it
was simple to switch the server from sbcglobal to eternal september but
it made a horrible mess from the old bad message IDs. That's cleaning up
gradually over the last couple weeks. I could have probably started
fresh but would have lost custom filters in thunderbird which have to be
created for each group.
--
Paul Furman
www.edgehill.net
www.baynatives.com
all google groups messages filtered due to spam
John Turco
>
> * John Turco wrote, On 7/5/2009 23:48:
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> > Hence, on Friday (June 3, 2009), in my news reader (Netscape
> > Communicator 4.8), I removed "news:motzarella.org" and replaced
> > it with "news:eternal-september.org."
> >
> > It took quite a bit of trial-and-error work, before I was able
> > to configure everything and subscribe to my four favorite
> > groups. I was almost ready to give up, fearing that my aged
> > Communicator 4.8 (introduced during 2003), from a now-defunct
> > company, had finally run out of luck.
> >
> > Fortunately, I persevered, as usual.
>
>
> Fortunately, although I started with motzarella, that same day after
> reading the notice on their website deleted motzarella and started
> with eternal-september. And it's been working like a charm ever
> since! Great that you managed to restore all -- surprised they didn't
> devise an easy method to simply change the news server without need of
> resubscribing to each newsgroup. (perhaps they did & both of us missed
> it.)
> Miles
Hello, Miles:
There was a further hang-up, for me. I had 16 raw replies, that had been
residing in Communicator's "Unsent Messages" folder, for several days.
Eventually, after I'd gotten around to writing my responses and sending
the messages, they wouldn't post!
The problem? Originally, I'd used the "Reply" button (off-line), during
the time that Motzarella was still active (i.e., in news:motzarella.org).
Thus, Communicator futilely tried to send my articles >there<, instead of,
to eternal-september.
The solution? In news:eternal-september.org, I made off-line "replies"
to the same posts. Then, I copied and pasted each of those entire messages
(that I'd already composed); finally, I dispatched them, on July 6, 2009.
It was a bit of a drag, but...I didn't need to retype any of my lines,
at least.
--
Cordially,
John Turco <jt...@concentric.net>
Paintings Pain and Pun <http://laughatthepain.blogspot.com>
John Turco
>
> On Mon, 06 Jul 2009 12:12:31 -0700, Miles wrote:
>
> > Fortunately, although I started with motzarella, that same day after
> > reading the notice on their website deleted motzarella and started
> > with eternal-september. And it's been working like a charm ever
> > since! Great that you managed to restore all -- surprised they didn't
> > devise an easy method to simply change the news server without need of
> > resubscribing to each newsgroup. (perhaps they did & both of us missed
> > it.)
>
> There's no easy method for the user. An easy method would have
> the new news server query the old news server to try to synchronize
> their different article numbers (I don't recall the actual term for
> this) and then try to communicate these numbers to your newsreader
> to update the article numbers that they use internally to only get
> "new" articles. It shouldn't require resubscribing (I've changed
> news servers before without resubscribing).
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Hello, ASAAR:
Luckily, though, the transition from Motzarella to eternal September,
didn't require people to change their "UserID's" or passwords.
Kalman Rubinson
wrote:
>My ISP (ATT) just sent this:
>
>> Please note that on or around July 15, 2009, AT&T will no longer be
>> offering access to the Usenet netnews service.
>
>Does anybody know which free / cheap services are best?
I have been using News.individual.DE for years now. Cost is
10Euro/year.
Kal