Canon PowerShot SX10 IS - any good?
Ken
So whilst they all look similar, according to Dpreview, I like the look of
this because of the movable LCD screen and the current drop in prices plus a
Canon cashback.
Anyone who has one? Are you happy with it before I press the BUY NOW button?
:-)
Thank you if you can help.
Ken
Grant
It's crap, I tried two and both returned, the second was worse than the
first. Now I'm using a s/h Nikon D70s -- and having a lot more fun than
using a crappy high end toy camera.
Grant.
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dwight
"Grant" <g_r_a...@bugsplatter.id.au> wrote in message
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Ah. That was helpful. And I enjoyed the technical detail.
Ken, I would suggest that you'd be better off combing through the discussion
forum at dpreview.com. As with any camera, the SX10 has issues for some, is
an absolute joy for others. Read the posts, look at the photos provided, and
make your decision. Does this camera have the features you need/want, or are
there other options that would suit you better?
As with olympic events, always throw out the high and low votes and average
out the rest.
dwight
Ken
"dwight" <dwi...@tfrogX.com> wrote in message
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Hi Dwight
When I posted I was waiting or this from a DSLR user who all seem very
intent on preaching DSLR!!!
Thanks for your help
Ken
Savageduck
So this was a TROLL?
>
> Thanks for your help
>
> Ken
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Clair Johnston
an upgrade for my wife. I settled on the SX10IS, because has many of
the features of a DSLR without the size, weight, and cost.
For general use, it does a outstanding job. My wife's pictures are
comparable to those I take with my D300. Where it starts failing is
when needing to use higher ISO's. At 400 the Canon has comparable noise
to the Nikon at 1600 or above.
The 20x Zoom with image stabilization is fantastic when considering the
price of the camera. My concern is that the focusing range changes as
you zoom. The focusing range is displayed in the viewfinder (or LCD)
but I prefer a lens with a consistent focusing range. My 18-200 focuses
to about 18" over the entire zoom range.
The movable screen is great for taking closeups of flowers.
It has a hot shoe for mounting a external flash, I have used my wireless
radio controlled external flash with no problems.
Bottom line, we are both happy with the Canon SX10IS. I am not happy
that my wife yells at me when I borrow it for a shot that it will do
better than the D300. Did I mention that is cost about 1/8 the cost of
the Nikon D300?
Clair
measekite
I have a Canon S5 and it is very good. The SX10 is a later version.
However, I would not make any decision until you look at the new Nikon
P90. On paper I think it is better so we need to wait for the reviews.
Ken
"Clair Johnston" <cbj...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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Clair thanks for the informative I was beginning to have doubts but NOT
really as the movable LCD is something I had an old Olympus and miss. So
this feature alone is worth extra points.
Ken
Ken
"measekite" <inkys...@oem.com> wrote in message
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It is availbale but approx £100 more so would be well over the top of the
budget I am working within.
Ken
Clair Johnston
>
> Clair thanks for the informative I was beginning to have doubts but NOT
> really as the movable LCD is something I had an old Olympus and miss. So
> this feature alone is worth extra points.
>
> Ken
Ken,
If you decide to get the camera, let us know your thoughts after a
reasonable period of use. Remember to read the manual to make full use
of the camera.
Clair
Xxxxx
are great, but I bought the SX10IS because:
1. The 20x optical zoom is extremelly useful and a lot lighter/smaller than
the XSi with the Tamron.
2. The SX10IS takes movies.
3. The movable LCD screen enables you to take candid pictures without the
subject being aware as well as at odd angles. This can be useful when you
don't want posed pictures or when there are very tall people standing in
front of you blocking what you want to photograph.
I use the smaller camera when I plan to be hiking for a long time and when
focusing speed is not crucial (the PowerShots cannot compete with DSLRs for
speed), or when I won't need manual focus. While the SX10IS can do manual
focus, I find it awkward and have never gotten satisfactory results from it.
For general photography, both cameras yield great pictures.
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nadie
"Ken" <no...@none.co.uk> wrote in message
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Ken
Since my first post I have now ordered one so!!!
I have used a bridge camera before so expect to get used to it fairly
quickly. I hope!!
Ken
Ken
I do like my viewfinder.
Ken
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SMS
Avoid it.
-Excessive noise reduction, even at relatively low ISO settings.
-No way to use filters (strange because the S5 supported them). Actually
Lensmate has made an adapter to get around this, see
"http://lensmateonline.com/newsite/SX10SX1.html"
-Poor focusing in low light.
Time to Kill
Someday, after you have actually bought and owned any camera, come back and
tell us what it's like from real life experiences instead of your usual
mindless posts of what you think might be. Be a good useless virtual-life
troll and go back to your other virtual-reality lives that you live out
elsewhere on the net. Your pretending to be a photographer isn't working,
we all see right through it. Maybe you should download manuals to your
web-tv on how to operate a Game-Boy and become an expert on that too. Go
fool the rest of the net with your basement-life imaginings.
For the OP: see this review on how this "lowly" P&S camera easily beats a
contemporary DSLR in resolution at 1/10th the cost and 1/10th the weight
when it is equipped with equivalent glass. Not to mention the $300 10 lb.
tripod you'd need to make the DSLR with the same lens-reach the least bit
functional.
http://www.cameralabs.com/reviews/Canon_PowerShot_SX10_IS/outdoor_results.shtml
DSLR = "Duped Simpleminded Loser Retards". There can be no other
interpretation of that when taking this century's technology into account.
Bob Larter
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> DSLR = "Duped Simpleminded Loser Retards". There can be no other
> interpretation of that when taking this century's technology into account.
Fuck off, troll.
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Savageduck
> DSLR = "Duped Simpleminded Loser Retards". There can be no other
> interpretation of that when taking this century's technology into account.
Aaaah! Our P&S troll strikes again.
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Regards,
Savageduck
Dan Birchall
> Anyone who has one? Are you happy with it before I press the BUY NOW
> button? :-)
I bought one in January to shoot the inauguration (from a quarter mile
away). While I didn't quite get results as good as I had hoped, that
was due to atmospheric distortion and not the camera itself. ;)
Biggest plus: huge amounts of zoom at a decent resolution.
Biggest minus: autofocus spends a LOT of time "hunting, and fails more
often than I'd like.
It's a good all-around camera when I don't want to carry an SLR and a
backpack full of lenses, but want more capability than a pocket camera
gives me. If I'm really after image quality, though, I use an SLR.
To contextualize my views, I also use a PowerShot A720IS (8mp, 35-210mm
equivalent) with underwater housing, a Digital Rebel XT (in the shop
getting a new shutter after 87,815 exposures), a Digital Rebel XS
(somewhere north of 3,000 exposures in its first 3 weeks) and various
lenses (18-55 IS, 28mm f/1.8, 50mm f/1.8, 85mm f/1.8, 70-300mm IS USM)
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Ken
"Dan Birchall" <nob...@imaginary-host.danbirchall.com> wrote in message
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Thanks Dan
I have thoroughly looked into what I want and think it will suit me and
since posting have played a lot with my sons Panny FZ18. I prefer the looks
of the Canon as it is a more solid hold for my hands, I like the movable
LCD which I enjoyed with an old Olympus, I like the viewfinder better and
don't ask me why I just feel I want a Canon. Must have been brainwashed on
this latter point!!
Seriously I took a lot of shots on the FZ18 but never felt truly happy with
them!
Ken
SMS
> It's a good all-around camera when I don't want to carry an SLR and a
> backpack full of lenses, but want more capability than a pocket camera
> gives me. If I'm really after image quality, though, I use an SLR.
Yes, I guess as a camera for when you don't want to carry the D-SLR, the
SX10IS is one of the better ZLRs out there.
It's just that once you get used to the D-SLR capabilities it's tough to
go back to a "bridge" camera. I'm happy with an SD800IS or A570IS (with
CHDK) for when I don't want to carry the D-SLR. I also still use my old
G2 because I love the tilt/swivel LCD on the older G series models, but
by the time I carry around the Lensmate adapter and the wide-angle
adapter, I may as well carry the D-SLR.
I no longer go to all-you-can-eat buffets before I prefer quality over
quantity, and I don't use lenses with a 20x range because they do
neither wide-angle nor telephoto all that well.
While I'm no fan of the Olympus 4:3 system, it's more of a competitor to
the ZLRs like the SX10IS than to larger sensor D-SLR systems. An E-420
with a 28-84 lens is only $30 more than an SX10IS, comparable in weight
(with the 28-84 lens). Plus it has the huge advantage of a Li-Ion
battery versus AA cells, which erases half of the $30 right off the top.
Alas, if you want the long telephoto range, you're spending another $360
for the Zuiko 70-300mm lens
SMS
> Seriously I took a lot of shots on the FZ18 but never felt truly happy
> with them!
Yes, if your point of reference is the FZ18, the SX10IS is a big step up.
Ken
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Thanks for that I was getting a complex reading some of the posters :-)
Ken
SMS
It's just that when your point of reference is a D-SLR, especially with
some decent wide-angle and telephoto lenses, the tiny-sensor SX10IS with
its 20x compromise-lens that isn't all that wide-angle, isn't too
exciting. Well I'd love a 560mm telephoto, I don't think I'd love that one!
If I didn't want to lug around a big SLR, I'd get a small SLR like one
of the Olympus 4xx models. It will win no awards against a Nikon or
Canon D-SLR, but it's a lot better than a ZLR. And since so few people
are buying 4:3 D-SLRs the prices are ridiculously low.
SneakyP
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Actually it was such trollery as above that made me change my mind about
a P&S camera because they're not known to handle the more extreme
conditions of low-light picture taking and fast handling re-takes of
pictures when they're needed.
It kinda sucks when your P&S equipment cant keep up with the real world
and their time line doesn't match your "Hold that Pose - RIGHT THERE"
commands. It kinda takes something out of the shoot when trying to re-
enact certain facial expressions.
Maybe the Point & Shoot troll can get a realistic view here and say, one
way doesn't catch the whole picture. In one respect they both have their
advantages and disadvantages.
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SneakyP
To reply: newsgroup only, what's posted in ng stays in ng.
Some choose to swim in the potty bowl of nan-ae rather than flush it
down :0)
SMS
> Actually it was such trollery as above that made me change my mind about
> a P&S camera because they're not known to handle the more extreme
> conditions of low-light picture taking and fast handling re-takes of
> pictures when they're needed.
>
> It kinda sucks when your P&S equipment cant keep up with the real world
> and their time line doesn't match your "Hold that Pose - RIGHT THERE"
> commands. It kinda takes something out of the shoot when trying to re-
> enact certain facial expressions.
That's a probably the biggest seller of D-SLRs to the P&S crowd,
especially to parents with small children.
There are some Casio models with at least a partial workaround to this
problem (inherent in contrast detection focusing cameras) with a high
burst rate (albeit at lower resolution than regular stills). They're
essentially taking an HD movie and extracting frames as stills.
Chris Malcolm
Isn't there a camera doing that which gives you the option of choosing
an image taken just before you pressed the shutter? I can imagine that
being very handy in fact action shots.
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Chris Malcolm
SMS
> Isn't there a camera doing that which gives you the option of choosing
> an image taken just before you pressed the shutter? I can imagine that
> being very handy in fact action shots.
Yes, that's the Casio. It's a clever use of the HD video recording
capability, but you don't get the full resolution of the sensor like you
do in a regular still shot.
I remember that Ricoh had phase-detection auto-focus in one of their
point and shoot models, but it added too much cost so it was dropped for
newer models. It did solve much of the AF delay inherent in most P&S models.
nospam
<c...@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> wrote:
> Isn't there a camera doing that which gives you the option of choosing
> an image taken just before you pressed the shutter? I can imagine that
> being very handy in fact action shots.
olympus had such a camera 10 years ago. a few others do now. it's
basically continually saving images to a circular buffer and when you
press the shutter, it writes the last few images to the memory card,
including the ones prior to the shutter being clicked.
Ken
My opinion posted to the Dpreview site.
It sure beats my sons Panasonic FZ18 by a very long margin.
Ken
Opinion
A few weeks on and so far so good. The best 'straight from the camera' shots
with any digital camera I have owned. The colours are so authentic and the
pictures are very sharp. Even my wife is very impressed and she is not
interested in photography. There is minimal need for post shot processing -
just a little sharpening in my case.
Problems
Only two aspects which nearly made me send the camera back after a few days.
It was only the superb shots that stopped me.
Firstly not being able to access the scenes options without using the
control wheel/dial.
Secondly, and really repeating myself, but my total disbelief that Canon
could have such a clumsy physical control as the control wheel/dial. I am
still not used to it as it is hit and miss - poor show on this Canon!
Miguel
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Ken, does the PowerShot SX10 IS posible the playback of the audio of the
videos?
Because I read a problem with this option.
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Ken
"Miguel" <responde...@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
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Hi Miguel
I am not sure I fully understand your question???
I never use my camnera for video clips but have just tried and it takes good
quality videos with sound?
Ask again and I will get back to you.
Ken
Ken
Stephen Henning
its closeup features work best NOT in macro mode. Macro mode works well
at short focal lengths, but with longer focal lengths, closeup work is
much better NOT in macro mode.
Closeup focus is the best in this class of cameras. I tried them all
and none even came close to this model.
Another peculiarity is that you can't use fill flash in Auto mode. You
need to switch to Program mode. That is a minor inconvenience. The
fill flash works well in this mode. I always use fill flash for flower
photography on sunny days in sunlight, but never on cloudy days or in
the shade.
I found that when I use this camera and go to Photoshop CS3, the Auto
Level in photoshop will correct almost perfectly for color temperature
and contrast. It boggled my mind. It was uncanny how accurate it was.
I am writing a book and used this camera to copy about 8,000 items for
use in the book. These items ranged from newspaper articles, and
photographs, to historic documents and artifacts. I have a copy stand
with side lighting using compact fluorescent bulbs, and the color
matching with this camera and the Auto Level control in photoshop was a
humungous time and effort saver.
My one problem with this camera is that sometimes I bump one of the 11
buttons and end up in a mode that I have no idea how to get out of. I
just shut it off and turn it back on.
On thing I find difficult with this camera is wild life photography from
a moving train. It is difficult to find and then zoom in on an animal
that is close to the train. Of course things that are further away are
easy to work with. One habit I have to stop, is touching the shutter
button when I am zeroing in on an object. Unfortunately, if the camera
is focusing on a nearby or distant object when I touch the shutter
button, the focus will be off. I need to remember not to touch the
shutter button until I have the object ready to focus on. When panning,
this can be difficult.
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Miguel
Hello Ken, thanks for your answer, after that you use the SX10 to video
clips, can you listen in the same camera the recorded audio?
Ken
"Miguel" <responde...@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
In a word Yes.
Ken
Miguel
Thank you, I am thinking to buy a new camera but I don't decide yet if It
could be the PowerShot SX10 or the PowerShot G10.
Ken
"Miguel" <responde...@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
I had the same thoughts but chose the SX10 because of the Canon Cashback &
the shop doing an extra discount coupon I got the SX10 for �244 net. The G10
would of been nearer �400 which was more than I really wanted to spend. If
money was no object and the G10 had a bit more zoom I would of bought the
G10 as it would be almost small enough to carry in my pocket.
I have no regrets about buying the SX10. I spent six months undecided what
to buy and the Canon Cashback was the deciding factor. The shots from the
camera are excellent needing minimal tweaking - straightening, cropping &
sharpening. I find myself for the first time using Picasa as it handles
these simple tweaks very well especially the straightening tool which is the
best I have used.
Watching the DSLR-TROLL-BOYS Cry - Boo-HOO!
If in doubt, check out this review which shows that this inexpensive P&S
camera clearly beats a costly DSLR in resolution and CA performance, the
DSLR having an even easier to manufacture and configure lens than what's on
the SX-10.
http://www.cameralabs.com/reviews/Canon_PowerShot_SX10_IS/outdoor_results.shtml
How fuckingly sad for any DSLR is that.
To match the same aperture and focal-length range of the SX-10 with
equivalent sharpness in images it would cost over $1,600 in extra lenses
and an extra 10 lbs. in hauling-around weight when buying that
con-man's-game DSLR body. I did the math, something that no DSLR-Fan-Boy
would bother to do because it proves them all 100% dead wrong. I can repost
that info if you want. That's not even counting the heavy 10+ lb. $300+
tripod and other accessories required to make the crippling DSLR + heavy,
crippling, slow-to swap lenses the least bit equivalently functional.
DSLRs, what a fuckingly huge joke! LOL!
Bob Larter
Tell someone who cares. (Hint: nobody here)
Watching the DSLR-TROLL-BOYS Cry - Boo-HOO!
wrote:
What? That's the best that you can do to refute the FACTS? You fuckingly
useless DSLR-Troll.
ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
John McWilliams
>
>
Riiiight.
Bob Larter
Eh?
Miguel
Ken, thank you