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Feb 3, 2009, 6:52:15 AM2/3/09
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Good morning again, Stephen.

Say, in all of the political crap we've engaged in I've lost track
of what you said your current digital camera was. Maybe you never
did and we just started talking in the Palestinian attack thread,
can't really remember.

I've got a Canon Rebel XSi which I really love. I previously used a
Rebel XT but decided to upgrade to the XSi even though it was only
an incremental change because it has a much larger LCD on the back,
finally adopted a noise reduction feature, and I could learn to
quickly use it because the ergonomics are almost identical.

My primary photographic interest is cars. I particularly enjoy the
major Mopar outdoor shows in my area, as well as the annual
Woodward Avenue Dream Cruise. And, we've got two great museums near
me for cars, the Walter P. Chrysler Museum and the Henry Ford
Museum.

If you're at all familiar with what is properly called The Henry
Ford, it is comprised of a really large museum with cars, trains,
steam engines, farm implements, guns, furniture, electrical
devices, airplanes, and a wide variety of general exhibits. I enjoy
all that stuff.

I've summarized my work background in the past but in case you
missed it, I worked my entire 33 year career at Chrysler, beginning
in 1969 as an entry level engineer, branching out into CAD and
utility programming, then later when I went over to the Dark Side
of management, I was responsible for all CAD and PC support for
Chrysler Engineering. I retired in 2002 which gives me plenty of
time to explore not only my photographic interests but the time to
watch lots of cable news and Google to stay on top of current
events and the political climate.

I've lived in SE Michigan all my life, currently in a NNW suburb of
Detroit. If you feel comfortable with it, I'd like to at least know
what region of our great country you hail from so I can have a
greater appreciation of your background and how you may have
developed your views.

Just one bit of politics in what I intended to be a fully ON-topic
post for a change: I describe myself as right of center but I DO
take ideas and platform planks from the left of center as well. As
I've said, all meaningful valuable social legislation has pretty
much occurred during Democratic eras while building up the
military, altering tax policy for the better, and adhering to
traditional family values usually occurs only during Republican
times. If I had my druthers, I'd like to be able to select items
from each party's platforms, I think we'd be a better country if we
could more directly influence our elected officials true agendas.
For example, my bent toward such things as pro-life runs in
conflict with conservative/Republican ideas on the believed right
of gun ownership. Likewise, good ideas like stem cell reseach paid
for by the government is somehow opposed by the Republicans.

Enough of that, let's get back to photography and see what
interesting things we can learn from each other about that.

And, have a great Tuesday!

--
HP, aka Jerry

"The government that governs least, governs best" - Thomas
Jefferson
"Government is NOT the solution to our problems, it IS our
problem!" - Ronald Reagan

Stephen Bishop

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Feb 4, 2009, 6:33:13 AM2/4/09
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On Tue, 03 Feb 2009 05:52:15 -0600, "HEMI-Powered" <no...@none.sn>
wrote:

>Good morning again, Stephen.
>
>Say, in all of the political crap we've engaged in I've lost track
>of what you said your current digital camera was. Maybe you never
>did and we just started talking in the Palestinian attack thread,
>can't really remember.

Yes, it is very refreshing to actually talk about photography instead
of constantly trying to swat down the insults of the loons at the
extreme ends of the political spectrum.

>I've got a Canon Rebel XSi which I really love. I previously used a
>Rebel XT but decided to upgrade to the XSi even though it was only
>an incremental change because it has a much larger LCD on the back,
>finally adopted a noise reduction feature, and I could learn to
>quickly use it because the ergonomics are almost identical.

I use Nikon gear, having switched over from Canon when the D200 was
introduced. I recently got a D300, but haven't had much opportunity
to use it. Prior to digital I used Canon 35mm cameras along with a
Pentax 6x7. I still have all of that, but don't shoot film any more.

However, I am in the process of scanning my archive of film, mostly
b&w negatives. It's interesting going into that time machine!

>My primary photographic interest is cars. I particularly enjoy the
>major Mopar outdoor shows in my area, as well as the annual
>Woodward Avenue Dream Cruise. And, we've got two great museums near
>me for cars, the Walter P. Chrysler Museum and the Henry Ford
>Museum.

I mostly do landscape / nature / outdoor kind of stuff. I also like
to do airshows and other aviation-related pictures.


>
>If you're at all familiar with what is properly called The Henry
>Ford, it is comprised of a really large museum with cars, trains,
>steam engines, farm implements, guns, furniture, electrical
>devices, airplanes, and a wide variety of general exhibits. I enjoy
>all that stuff.
>
>I've summarized my work background in the past but in case you
>missed it, I worked my entire 33 year career at Chrysler, beginning
>in 1969 as an entry level engineer, branching out into CAD and
>utility programming, then later when I went over to the Dark Side
>of management, I was responsible for all CAD and PC support for
>Chrysler Engineering. I retired in 2002 which gives me plenty of
>time to explore not only my photographic interests but the time to
>watch lots of cable news and Google to stay on top of current
>events and the political climate.


I'm looking forward to retirement myself, but that won't be for
another decade unless the economy forces me otherwise.

I've been to the Chrysler corporate headquarters, the palace as I call
it... and several other Chrysler plants in the course of my work.
(I'm in the steel industry.) I was at KPT in Kokomo in December...
that place is almost a ghost town now.


>I've lived in SE Michigan all my life, currently in a NNW suburb of
>Detroit. If you feel comfortable with it, I'd like to at least know
>what region of our great country you hail from so I can have a
>greater appreciation of your background and how you may have
>developed your views.

Ohio here, so we're almost neighbors.

>Just one bit of politics in what I intended to be a fully ON-topic
>post for a change: I describe myself as right of center but I DO
>take ideas and platform planks from the left of center as well. As
>I've said, all meaningful valuable social legislation has pretty
>much occurred during Democratic eras while building up the
>military, altering tax policy for the better, and adhering to
>traditional family values usually occurs only during Republican
>times. If I had my druthers, I'd like to be able to select items
>from each party's platforms, I think we'd be a better country if we
>could more directly influence our elected officials true agendas.
>For example, my bent toward such things as pro-life runs in
>conflict with conservative/Republican ideas on the believed right
>of gun ownership. Likewise, good ideas like stem cell reseach paid
>for by the government is somehow opposed by the Republicans.

There is nothing wrong with a healthy mix of political opinions. We
might disagree a bit on stem cells, especially since some of the more
promising research is coming from adult stem cells, making it less
necessary to deal with the ethical dilemma of destroying one human
life in order to make life better for another one.

>
>Enough of that, let's get back to photography and see what
>interesting things we can learn from each other about that.
>
>And, have a great Tuesday!

Thank you!

HEMI-Powered

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Feb 4, 2009, 10:56:45 AM2/4/09
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Stephen Bishop added these comments in the current discussion du
jour ...

>>Say, in all of the political crap we've engaged in I've lost
>>track of what you said your current digital camera was. Maybe
>>you never did and we just started talking in the Palestinian
>>attack thread, can't really remember.
>
> Yes, it is very refreshing to actually talk about photography
> instead of constantly trying to swat down the insults of the
> loons at the extreme ends of the political spectrum.
>

I haven't bugged you about it because you said it amuses you to
debate with these twits. Personally, I find it best not to try to
reason with fools but each of us must do what they think best.
About the only time I tend to get involved in these codswallop
debates with obvious mordant misanthropes is to correct major
falsehoods masquerading as truth. I think this is why you've been
swatting down all the obvious bilge aimed at both the Israelis and
you personally.

>
>>I've got a Canon Rebel XSi which I really love. I previously
>>used a Rebel XT but decided to upgrade to the XSi even though it
>>was only an incremental change because it has a much larger LCD
>>on the back, finally adopted a noise reduction feature, and I
>>could learn to quickly use it because the ergonomics are almost
>>identical.
>
> I use Nikon gear, having switched over from Canon when the D200
> was introduced. I recently got a D300, but haven't had much
> opportunity to use it. Prior to digital I used Canon 35mm
> cameras along with a Pentax 6x7. I still have all of that, but
> don't shoot film any more.

I went through a couple of not-so-great EVF cameras before making
the jump to a DSLR a few years ago. At the time, I had the Nikon
D70s and Canon Rebel XT on my short-list. Both seemed to get about
the same quality reviews and people were evenly divided as to which
was the better camera. What swayed me was someone on this NG who
said that at the end of the day, prospective buyers should just go
to a store and handle each camera they're considering. That did it
for me. I particularly liked the smaller physical size and lighter
weight of the Rebel as it helps me through some strength problems
resulting from health issues.

In my film days, I used a Nikon Photomic FTN with a number of
outstanding Nikkor lenses, so I was naturally biased in favor of
them and I'm sure that had I chosen the D70s, I'd likely have been
equally satisfied except maybe for hauling around it's greater
heft.

> However, I am in the process of scanning my archive of film,
> mostly b&w negatives. It's interesting going into that time
> machine!
>

Yeah, BIG problem in this area for me, also! I've got at least
5,000 35mm slides in Kodak Carousel trays sitting in my basement
literally gathering dust. Most are Kodachome, some are pushed
Ektachrome. I took thousands of pictures of scenery, castles, and
the like while I was in Europe in the Army circa 1971, including a
leave to London and Paris. A few years back, I came close to buying
a Nikon Coolscan 5000 to start to work on digitizing what I believe
will be about 1,000 "good" slides out of the big bunch downstairs.
I still haven't gotten around to that because of continuing health
problems. Nothing that will kill me, just makes me miserable much
of the time.

I'm VERY interested in how you plan to approach the problem of
scanning your neg and slide collection, as to what scanner you now
have or plant to buy. Thanks in advance, Stephen.


>
>>My primary photographic interest is cars. I particularly enjoy
>>the major Mopar outdoor shows in my area, as well as the annual
>>Woodward Avenue Dream Cruise. And, we've got two great museums
>>near me for cars, the Walter P. Chrysler Museum and the Henry
>>Ford Museum.
>
> I mostly do landscape / nature / outdoor kind of stuff. I also
> like to do airshows and other aviation-related pictures.
>

I did airshows, airports, and the like in my film days, lots of
architecture, etc. both here and in Europe. Also been to the
Smithsonian a couple of times, GREAT place for pictures!


>>
> I'm looking forward to retirement myself, but that won't be for
> another decade unless the economy forces me otherwise.

Back in 2001, Chrysler was undergoing one of it's bigger
restructurings. At that time, I was a senior manager and through
the process, got bounced from job to job getting "downsized" myself
from a high of over 80 people in my department to only 7. So, it
didn't surprise me that I was demoted a grade. Nothing I did or
failed to do, this happened to a LOT of people back then and I
imagine even more these days. So, I asked for a special Special
Retirement package as I was just a year too young at the time for
the packages granted to people during our restructuring. I was
granted a special package and left in early 2002. Maybe if my
health had been better and I hadn't gotten sidelined in my career I
might have stayed on, but I don't for a minute regret the decision
to retire.

I truly hope that our economy will improve so that you can make
your own decision a little easier.

> I've been to the Chrysler corporate headquarters, the palace as
> I call it... and several other Chrysler plants in the course of
> my work. (I'm in the steel industry.) I was at KPT in Kokomo
> in December... that place is almost a ghost town now.

Really?! I was on the 15th Floor a couple of times to visit,
they're pretty strict about security up there after 9/11. I started
as an entry leven engineer in the old Highland Park HQ in April,
1969 the day after graduating engineering school from Oakland
University. I moved to Auburn Hills in early 1992 in the 2nd big
wave moving into the new Technology Center, which opened several
years before the HQ Tower was built.

In my pure engineering days, I did several new car pilot launch
assignments and two plant new car launches. Great way to make money
on overtime, but pretty rugged work. I imagine that if you've been
in the steel biz for a long time, you've also seen your share of
tough plants.


>
>>I've lived in SE Michigan all my life, currently in a NNW suburb
>>of Detroit. If you feel comfortable with it, I'd like to at
>>least know what region of our great country you hail from so I
>>can have a greater appreciation of your background and how you
>>may have developed your views.
>
> Ohio here, so we're almost neighbors.
>

I have a Cyber friend in Cincinnati and another in Dayton. And, I
learned of an Iwo Jima vet alive and well in Dayton. We're good
friends now although we'll likely never meet. If you're interested
in any of my pictures scanned from my father's WWII album, let me
know. I can post them to alt.binaries.pictures.military. Of course,
if you want to post pictures of your military days, I'd be very
interested to see them.


>
>>Just one bit of politics in what I intended to be a fully
>>ON-topic post for a change: I describe myself as right of center
>>but I DO take ideas and platform planks from the left of center
>>as well. As I've said, all meaningful valuable social
>>legislation has pretty much occurred during Democratic eras
>>while building up the military, altering tax policy for the
>>better, and adhering to traditional family values usually occurs
>>only during Republican times. If I had my druthers, I'd like to
>>be able to select items from each party's platforms, I think
>>we'd be a better country if we could more directly influence our
>>elected officials true agendas.

> There is nothing wrong with a healthy mix of political opinions.


> We might disagree a bit on stem cells, especially since some of
> the more promising research is coming from adult stem cells,
> making it less necessary to deal with the ethical dilemma of
> destroying one human life in order to make life better for
> another one.

It wasn't my intent to push any of your hot buttons with stem cell
research, I just picked a couple of obvious examples where I tend
to look to both the Left and the Right in choosing issues I
support. At one time, I was a strong pro-choice person but have
slowly drifted to a strong pro-life advocate as I've aged.
Natually, I do NOT advocate or even condone human cloning from stem
cells OR the use of DNA for sinister purposes like discriminating
in jobs or insurance. I want to see SOMETHING happen with ANY
promising stem cell research to take on such obvious life-
threatening diseases such as cancer and heart failure plus the
ravages of living longer such as Alzheimer's.

If we get off on more OT stuff, we may incur the ire of those in
this NG so if you ever get interested in perhaps going off-line and
E-mailing to discuss the issues that ring our bells, I'd be happy
to give you my addy in munged form.

Again, any more insights on your scanning of negs and slides would
be appreciated as some day, I'll get off my ass and buy a decent
scanner.

Have a great day!

tray aldler

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Feb 4, 2009, 11:16:26 AM2/4/09
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Get a room. Better yet, go visit so you can play kissy-face and butt-fuck
each other in person.

You know you want it Hemi, the biggest over-compensating closet-case on
usenet. One a desperate fag stalker, the other a desperate closet-case.
What a match.

HEMI-Powered

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tray aldler added these comments in the current discussion du jour
...

> Get a room. Better yet, go visit so you can play kissy-face and


> butt-fuck each other in person.
>
> You know you want it Hemi, the biggest over-compensating
> closet-case on usenet. One a desperate fag stalker, the other a
> desperate closet-case. What a match.
>

Well, I see another closes asshole has been flushed out. You have no
idea how LITTLE I regard your opinion here, so with all sincerity,
Please take a big jump into Lake Fuck Off!

Douglas Johnson

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Feb 4, 2009, 1:14:38 PM2/4/09
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"HEMI-Powered" <no...@none.sn> wrote:

>>
>Yeah, BIG problem in this area for me, also! I've got at least
>5,000 35mm slides in Kodak Carousel trays sitting in my basement
>literally gathering dust. Most are Kodachome, some are pushed

>Ektachrome. [...]A few years back, I came close to buying

>a Nikon Coolscan 5000 to start to work on digitizing what I believe
>will be about 1,000 "good" slides out of the big bunch downstairs.

About a year and a half ago, I bought a Coolscan 5000 and feeder off of eBay,
scanned in about 6000 slides of my dad's and mine, then sold it on eBay for
about what I paid.

It was about a 6 week project. I am very pleased with the results, but the
feeder is essential. It takes 2-3 minutes per slide, depending on what options
you select in the software. The feeder lets you go about doing other things,
just checking on it every hour or so.

-- Doug

Stephen Bishop

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Feb 4, 2009, 8:33:16 PM2/4/09
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I guess there is a never-ending parade of the ignorant everywhere one
goes. The problem with usenet is that anyone with a computer and a
basement to lurk in feels like a big person and can say such garbage
to complete strangers; and think they are actually being clever in the
process.

Get a room, indeed.


>
>
>
>

Stephen Bishop

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Feb 4, 2009, 8:48:06 PM2/4/09
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On Wed, 04 Feb 2009 09:56:45 -0600, "HEMI-Powered" <no...@none.sn>
wrote:


>


>Again, any more insights on your scanning of negs and slides would
>be appreciated as some day, I'll get off my ass and buy a decent
>scanner.
>
>Have a great day!


I have an Epson Perfection V700 Photo scanner. It's a flatbed that
also does film, and it does an excellent job with slides and
negatives. It will scan 24 35mm negatives or slides at once at high
resolution and separate them into individual jpegs.

Send your email address to me at smb...@gmail.com and we can compare
notes. (That's just a spam trapping address for me, I'll respond
from my real account.)

HEMI-Powered

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Stephen Bishop added these comments in the current discussion du
jour ...

>>Get a room. Better yet, go visit so you can play kissy-face and


>>butt-fuck each other in person.
>>

> I guess there is a never-ending parade of the ignorant
> everywhere one goes. The problem with usenet is that anyone
> with a computer and a basement to lurk in feels like a big
> person and can say such garbage to complete strangers; and think
> they are actually being clever in the process.
>
> Get a room, indeed.
>

I always wonder what kind of OCD so fascinates people to even bother
to look at threads that start off "Pinging so-and-so", maybe just
curiousity. But, once replies between the two people start, what
possible interest - not to mention business - does anyone else even
have, other than to play the cantankerous dumbledore?

HEMI-Powered

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Stephen Bishop added these comments in the current discussion du
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>>Again, any more insights on your scanning of negs and slides


>>would be appreciated as some day, I'll get off my ass and buy a
>>decent scanner.
>>

> I have an Epson Perfection V700 Photo scanner. It's a flatbed
> that also does film, and it does an excellent job with slides
> and negatives. It will scan 24 35mm negatives or slides at
> once at high resolution and separate them into individual jpegs.
>

OK, will try an E-mail. Thanks.

As to your choice of scanner, let me make a side comment on my own
situation here. Many years ago I bought a MicroTek ScanMaker 4
legal size flat-bed scanner mainly for scanning car photos in
books, calendars and magazines. I like the larger size because
calendar photos and some book photos are too large to scan in one
piece with a letter size scanner. My ScanMaker DOES have a slide
and neg tray that supports all the usual sizes. So far, so good.

But, the scans are just awful! Besides being really bad for
brightness/contrast, what makes them virtually useless is that they
are just a LITTLE out-of-focus which leads me to believe that the
slide tray that fits on the other side of the moving scan light
source, is likely a few thousandths of an inch out of place. No way
to fix that. So, I gave up with this unit.

I'll Google for your scanner, but perhaps you could give me a brief
description on a couple of points here, please:

I assume you bought this as a moderate price general scanner for
printed material as well as a fast and convenient way of doing
multiple negs and slides. What DPI(s) does it support and what do
you usually use? How do you perceive the overall quality to be vs.
a dedicate scanner like a Nikon Coolscan or similar? And, does it
support Digital Ice for reducing noise from dust on the slides?

Thanks and have a great day!

Stephen Bishop

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On Thu, 05 Feb 2009 05:10:53 -0600, "HEMI-Powered" <no...@none.sn>
wrote:

>Stephen Bishop added these comments in the current discussion du
>jour ...
>
>>>Again, any more insights on your scanning of negs and slides
>>>would be appreciated as some day, I'll get off my ass and buy a
>>>decent scanner.
>>>
>> I have an Epson Perfection V700 Photo scanner. It's a flatbed
>> that also does film, and it does an excellent job with slides
>> and negatives. It will scan 24 35mm negatives or slides at
>> once at high resolution and separate them into individual jpegs.
>>
>OK, will try an E-mail. Thanks.
>
>As to your choice of scanner, let me make a side comment on my own
>situation here. Many years ago I bought a MicroTek ScanMaker 4
>legal size flat-bed scanner mainly for scanning car photos in
>books, calendars and magazines. I like the larger size because
>calendar photos and some book photos are too large to scan in one
>piece with a letter size scanner. My ScanMaker DOES have a slide
>and neg tray that supports all the usual sizes. So far, so good.

Several years back I bought a MicroTek film scanner. It was good for
its day, similar to the Nikon Coolscan units at the time. But it was
rather slow and didn't have very good dynamic range compared to
current designs.

>
>But, the scans are just awful! Besides being really bad for
>brightness/contrast, what makes them virtually useless is that they
>are just a LITTLE out-of-focus which leads me to believe that the
>slide tray that fits on the other side of the moving scan light
>source, is likely a few thousandths of an inch out of place. No way
>to fix that. So, I gave up with this unit.

The Epson I have now seems very sharp. It will do photos and
documents, of course, and it comes with film holders for 35mm, medium
format and sheet film as well as for mounted slides.

I've found that regardless of what brand or model you use, most scans
of photographs require a lot of unsharp masking to restore the
original sharpness of the picture.

>
>I'll Google for your scanner, but perhaps you could give me a brief
>description on a couple of points here, please:
>
>I assume you bought this as a moderate price general scanner for
>printed material as well as a fast and convenient way of doing
>multiple negs and slides. What DPI(s) does it support and what do
>you usually use? How do you perceive the overall quality to be vs.
>a dedicate scanner like a Nikon Coolscan or similar? And, does it
>support Digital Ice for reducing noise from dust on the slides?


I've never used the Nikon scanner, but this one does create some very
nice output. It has very good dynamic range (measured as "D-Max"). I
find I have to play with the levels control in the scanner software to
keep from blowing out highlights, as the default settings seem to
favor shadow detail. The max optical resolution is 6400 dpi, but I
generally keep it at 3200 dpi to keep file sizes reasonable. Yes,
the Epson software does include Digital ICE, but I rarely use it
because it slows things down a lot. For some technical reason, it
doesn't work with black and white film, anyway.

My experience with it so far has been limited to negatives. I'll be
digging into my color slides soon enough, but I haven't done enough of
them on this scanner to judge how good it is for that purpose.

HEMI-Powered

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Stephen Bishop added these comments in the current discussion du
jour ...

>>> I have an Epson Perfection V700 Photo scanner. It's a


>>> flatbed that also does film, and it does an excellent job with
>>> slides and negatives. It will scan 24 35mm negatives or
>>> slides at once at high resolution and separate them into
>>> individual jpegs.
>>>

> Several years back I bought a MicroTek film scanner. It was
> good for its day, similar to the Nikon Coolscan units at the
> time. But it was rather slow and didn't have very good dynamic
> range compared to current designs.

I've never had the opportunity to see any of these dedicated
scanners at work. A local camera store near me says that the
Coolscan is quite good although the slide feeder tends to jam. I
wasn't aware that MicroTek had a neg/slide scanner but I didn't
really look at their web site.

At the time I was first interested, maybe 4 years ago, I asked for
advice in this NG and the consensus back then was go with the
Nikon. It still seems to be well-regarded but is still pretty
pricey.

I did have a $250 dedicated scanner but besides being Gawd Awful
slow, it frequently refused to scan at all. Plus, it was a real
bear setting it's parameters to get a reasonable starting point for
a series of scans.

I recognize that some user input will always be necessary. Film is
no different than printed material scanning in that there are a LOT
of things that affect results. I also toyed with letting Ritz
Camera do the scans for me at 75 cents/each. They still have that
service. I may eventually try them to get a feel for what their
service is capable of.

Of course, a BIG problem in all of this is just culling the "good"
slides from the thousands of slides of lesser quality/interest.
About the only way I can think of to reasonably do that is to set
up my projector in my office, preview them, select the ones I want,
and do the scan either myself or through a service bureau.
Natually, some pains must be taken to label the slides so they can
go back into the right place in the original tray.

>>
> The Epson I have now seems very sharp. It will do photos and
> documents, of course, and it comes with film holders for 35mm,
> medium format and sheet film as well as for mounted slides.
>
> I've found that regardless of what brand or model you use, most
> scans of photographs require a lot of unsharp masking to restore
> the original sharpness of the picture.

Thanks for the evaluation. I imagine you're correct about
sharpening since no matter how many optical DPI one uses, there is
only so much that can be extracted digitally. Then again, we used
to view our slides via someone's projector whose lens was not too
hot, but the bright image made the slides seem to pop off the wall
or screen.

>>
>>I assume you bought this as a moderate price general scanner for
>>printed material as well as a fast and convenient way of doing
>>multiple negs and slides. What DPI(s) does it support and what
>>do you usually use? How do you perceive the overall quality to
>>be vs. a dedicate scanner like a Nikon Coolscan or similar? And,
>>does it support Digital Ice for reducing noise from dust on the
>>slides?
>
> I've never used the Nikon scanner, but this one does create some
> very nice output. It has very good dynamic range (measured as
> "D-Max"). I find I have to play with the levels control in the
> scanner software to keep from blowing out highlights, as the
> default settings seem to favor shadow detail. The max optical
> resolution is 6400 dpi, but I generally keep it at 3200 dpi to
> keep file sizes reasonable. Yes, the Epson software does
> include Digital ICE, but I rarely use it because it slows things
> down a lot. For some technical reason, it doesn't work with
> black and white film, anyway.

6400 DPI seems like WAY overkill for the level of quality I know my
old slides and negs are. That would create gigantic digital images
to try to work with. I'd more likely use around 2500 or whatever is
closest to that. If yours is 3200, I'd probably try that and might
even go down even further depending on the slide quality.

To put my own opinion of DPI into some perspective, I can comment
that I've scanned well over 500 family snapshots, which were of the
drug store variety. Trying to produce an image larger than about
1280 x 960, sometimes only 1024 x 768, is futile since the image
information just isn't in those old snap shot prints plus the film
grain starts to show up as digital noise.

Yes, I have heard that Digital ICE slows things down considerably,
which makes sense. I've also heard that it generally cannot be used
on Kodachrome slides, something to do with the emulsion type. I
know that Ritz' equipment doesn't have it and I know that all my
slides are VERY dusty, so ...



> My experience with it so far has been limited to negatives.
> I'll be digging into my color slides soon enough, but I haven't
> done enough of them on this scanner to judge how good it is for
> that purpose.
>

That's OK. There're special problems with negs because of the color
of the film mask but if your scanner has the proper film type
calibration it should be fine.

BTW, Stephen, did you get the E-mail I sent you early yesterday
morning? I assume it went through OK because I didn't get a deliver
y failure.

Thanks for the insights on film scanning.

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