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john

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Feb 24, 2009, 11:10:35 AM2/24/09
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I have an EOS 20D and have always wanted a full frame DSLR.
I'm somewhat disappointed in the 5D mark II's new battery, LP-E6.

According to canon
(http://www.usa.canon.com/dlc/controller?act=GetArticleAct&articleID=2046):

"Each LP-E6 battery pack has a microchip with a unique, 8-character serial
number. You don't see this number on the outside of the battery, but it's
embedded in the battery's information source. When the battery pack is
installed in the camera, you can register it using a menu command. This adds
it to an in-camera list of LP-E6 battery packs, with serial number memorized
and displayed."

This seems to imply it would be harder if not impossible for 3rd party
battery makers to make a compatible battery. The supposed added benefits of
this new battery doesn't sound all that exciting to me. I already have a
"collection" of BP511 (compatible with EOS 10D, 20D, 30D, 40D, 50D, ...).
I'm all for innovation, but why can't the camera be designed to accept both
types of battery?

Let's call a spade a spade. This battery's main purpose is to lock out 3rd
party batteries.

How come FTC doesn't step in and force the company to make their system more
open like they did to a certain computer operating system? Or stop them from
unfairly bundling their own brand of battery with the camera body?

John McWilliams

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Feb 24, 2009, 11:29:39 AM2/24/09
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Apples n oranges.

You could get a 5D as it takes the same batteries as your current
battery of batteries.

--
John McWilliams

Pete D

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Feb 24, 2009, 2:17:09 PM2/24/09
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"john" <nos...@nospam.com> wrote in message
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Lets call a spade a spade, next you will be wanting all lens mounts to be
the same and all flash mounts to be compatible, it will not happen.


Matt Ion

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Feb 25, 2009, 12:42:09 AM2/25/09
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There's nothing there that says the camera won't work with
non-serialized batteries, only that they're not interchangeable with the
BP-511s. I see the battery grip still supports AA batteries - it
doesn't get much more third-party than that.

Time to remove the tinfoil from your head...

David J Taylor

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Feb 25, 2009, 2:06:02 AM2/25/09
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Pete D wrote:
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> Lets call a spade a spade, next you will be wanting all lens mounts
> to be the same and all flash mounts to be compatible, it will not
> happen.

.. but the four-thirds system is a step in that direction, isn't it?

Oh, but what about micro-four-thirds?

David

DD-Diver

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Feb 25, 2009, 3:33:42 AM2/25/09
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"Pete D" <n...@email.com> schreef in bericht
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>

>>>SNIP<<<

> Lets call a spade a spade, next you will be wanting all lens mounts to be
> the same and all flash mounts to be compatible, it will not happen.

Re: lens mounts: remember M-42 and K-bajonet? Things became a mess when
electronics came around, and everybody re-invented the wheel! Well... their
own version of it...


Pete D

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Feb 25, 2009, 4:10:31 AM2/25/09
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"David J Taylor" <david-...@blueyonder.neither-this-bit.nor-this.co.uk>
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Yeah, what about it, a mad mans dream I think.


Pete D

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Feb 25, 2009, 4:12:20 AM2/25/09
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"DD-Diver" <p1n0c...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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A $2,500 camera and some people want to quible about spending $50 for a top
quality battery, pretty stupid in my view.


bowzer

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Feb 25, 2009, 7:52:30 AM2/25/09
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"john" <nos...@nospam.com> wrote in message
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Because the FTC would only intervene if there were some law broken, or a
restraint of trade. By selling proprietary batteries, Canon has broken no
law, nor have they caused any restraint of trade. If you want, buy the
SX-series cameras that use AAs. Sony has been using "smart" batteries for
years, so why not Canon and others?

macivor

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Feb 26, 2009, 10:51:19 PM2/26/09
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third party batteries might still work, they just won't show up in the
menu as to their charging status????

also they are close to $150 at Henry's I was told by someone who was
ordering one.??

David J Taylor

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Feb 27, 2009, 2:45:53 AM2/27/09
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Sounds like someone is making a tidy profit on Canon (compatible)
batteries!

Those for a Nikon D40/D60 are about US $10:

http://www.7dayshop.com/catalog/product_info.php?manufacturers_id=&products_id=102083

Something else to consider when choosing your camera.

David

Jim

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Feb 27, 2009, 6:47:54 PM2/27/09
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In article
<d610c170-7521-4353...@z1g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>,
macivor <rmac...@gmail.com> wrote:

Bought one at Henry's today for $120.

--
Jim

Robert Coe

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Feb 28, 2009, 4:35:04 PM2/28/09
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On Fri, 27 Feb 2009 18:47:54 -0500, Jim <no...@here.com> wrote:
: In article

Of course they're expensive. It costs a lot to incorporate the mechanism that
makes them incompatible with third-party batteries. You have to pay extra for
the privilege of paying extra.

To the earlier poster who was indignant that the FTC hadn't objected to this
ploy: You're joking, right? Don't you know what gang of thugs has been in
charge of the U.S. federal government for the past eight years?

Bob

George Kerby

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Mar 1, 2009, 10:28:11 AM3/1/09
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On 2/28/09 3:35 PM, in article 5uajq49fd7be8o75r...@4ax.com,
"Robert Coe" <b...@1776.COM> wrote:

>
> To the earlier poster who was indignant that the FTC hadn't objected to this
> ploy: You're joking, right? Don't you know what gang of thugs has been in
> charge of the U.S. federal government for the past eight years?
>

And will continue to be for the next four?

"CHANGE" <<<< NOT!!!!
BULLSHIT = YES

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