Olympus u4/3rds, an overpriced bust in the making?
RichA
having a viewfinder because the camera does not lack for space. To me
(especially given the poor resolution performance of the latest 12 meg
Olympus cameras) there is no reason to buy it over the G1 or GH1
Panasonic. Apart from the movie mode, I can't see this as being
anything other than a Sigma DP with interchangeable lenses. And the
crappy silver-coloured plastic kit lens just looks cheap. At least
the expensive Pentax "Limited" primes are METAL bodied.
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1022&message=32060474
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1022&message=32059861
Troll Killers
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Oh look everyone! It's the useless fucking troll again!
Is anyone surprirsed? LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!
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If you give a link, at least provide a useful one. This just runs to some
"leaked" info about a P&S. No info about anything.
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Alan Browne
> On Sun, 7 Jun 2009 03:23:36 -0700 (PDT), RichA<rande...@gmail.com>
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>> $1000 for the body, no viewfinder, of any kind.
Rich: the whole point of micro 4/3 was to get rid of the VF and mirror.
There is no room between the sensor and the lens for a mirror. Do
some research before you barf all over the place and embarrass yourself
(again).
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> $1000 for the body,
That sounds like too much for sure. The lenses will need to cost that
much each to match.
But... I really like the compact simple retro shape and tiny lens. I bet
it's a fake though, the bulky Lumix shown for comparison there is MUCH
bigger:
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Rich
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> On 07-06-09 07:03, Troll Killers wrote:
>
> > wrote:
>
> >> $1000 for the body, no viewfinder, of any kind.
>
> Rich: the whole point of micro 4/3 was to get rid of the VF and mirror.
> There is no room between the sensor and the lens for a mirror. Do
> some research before you barf all over the place and embarrass yourself
> (again).
That's what simple optical viewfinders or EVFs are for, brain trust.
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Quranic and Prophetic Miracle
Author: Abdul Daem Al-Kaheel
Translation: Nassim JamalEddin Dhaher
Revised by : Magdy Abd Al-Shafy
I hope you don’t mind receiving my letter. It is short but full
of information
When scientists started to probe the valleys of Earth and in order to
know its structure and constituents,
they found that tales and myths that dominated in the earlier
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has a nucleus, and its ****l is a very thin crust when compared to the
Earth’s size, and between these two layers, there is a third, known as
the mantle . this was the knowledge of the early scientists.
Development of Scientific Facts
The Three Layer -Theory did not last for so long due to recent
discoveries in Geology. Recent measurements and experiments showed
that the material comprising the nucleus of the Earth is under very
high pressure, three million times more than that on the surface of
the Earth.
Under such pressure, matter transforms into solid state, this in turn
makes Earth’s core very solid,This core is surrounded by a liquid
layer of very high temperature. This means that there are two layers
in Earth’s core and not one.Two layers; one solid in the center
surrounded by another liquid layer.
Thereafter measuring devices advanced and presented to scientists a
clear distinction among Earth’s inner layers. If we were to descend
under the earth’s crust we would find another layer of very hot
stones , which is the stone cover or wrap. After that come three other
distinct layers of varying density, pressure and temperature.
Therefore scientists found themselves classifying the layers of Earth
into seven layers, not more. The figure shows these layers with their
dimensions (some are out of scale) according to what scientists have
recently found using methods like earthquake measuring devices and the
study of Earth’s magnetic field, among other techniques. These studies
and discoveries are being taught to these scientists’ students in
universities.
Figure showing Earth’s seven layers, notice that the crust is very
thin followed by mantle of varying thickness, then came the core
comprised of a liquid and finally a seventh solid nucleus.
Scientists have found that the atom is also comprised of seven layers
or levels, and this proves the uniformity of creation, where Earth has
seven layers and atoms have seven layers as well. This creation
therefore is ruled by only one creator.
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and material. Therefore one cannot consider that Earth has only one
layer as people anciently thought. Here we find that the idea of the
Earth having layers is fairly recent and wasn’t presented or brought
forward at the time when the Quran was being revealed. Those
discoveries are what the Twenty First century -scientists tell us,
What then does the book of Allah tell us?
In the Company of the Noble Quran
The Holy Quran, God’s word , talks to us about the seven Heavens and
also seven layers of Earth in the Quranic verses:
God says in the Holy Quran in this regard what means “Who has created
the seven heavens one above another…” [Al-Mulk 3]
God says in the Holy Quran in this regard what means “It is Allah Who
has created seven heavens and of the earth the like thereof
(i.e. seven).” [Attalaq 12]
The first verse has specified two traits for the heavens which are:
their number which is seven, their organization, which is into
layers , one on the of top of the other and this is according to the
Quranic interpretation books and Arabic language dictionaries. As for
the second verse, it confirms that Earth is similar to the Heavens
from the part of the verse that says “…and of the earth the like
thereof”, where since the Heavens are layers, then Earth is comprised
of layers as well, and since the Heavens are seven, therefore Earth’s
layers are seven as well.
Here we need to pause and elaborate on Allah’s choice of words in the
word: “Tibaqa” – which means layers one on top of another, and this is
what scientists have recently discovered that Earth is comprised of
layers, this in turn leads us to conclude that Al-Qur`an defined
Earth’s shape, of layers, and it (Al-Quran) has also specified the
number of these layers, seven. Henceforth Al-Qur`an chose a very
specific word to describe Earth’s composition, so Al-Qur`an preceded
the Twenty First Century scientists in mentioning Earths facts
fourteen centuries ago. Isn’t this an overwhelming
?Quranic miracle
If we contemplate 0n the Noble Prophet’s (peace and blessings be upon
him) Hadeeth (sayings), we find one Hadeeth that confirms this fact of
Earth’s seven overlapping layers. Prophet Mohammad (peace and
blessings be upon him) says: “whomever oppressed someone a hand span’s
distance from the Earth, gets surrounded by seven overlapping
layers”[Bukhari 2321], the Hadeeth is telling us that Allah will
punish those who oppress in Earth by being encircled and surrounded by
seven Earthly layers. This definition for the word “Tawaqa” that was
used in the Hadeeth is as found in Arabic Language Dictionaries.
The question here is: Isn’t this a great prophetic miracle? doesn’t
this Hadeeth specify the number of Earth’s layers which are seven, and
also mentions their nature of being overlapped or surrounding each
other?From the word encircled used in the Hadeeth, we can deduce
circular shapes and in three dimensions we can deduce spherical
shapes.
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Prophet) preceded modern science to this scientific fact. In addition
Al-Qur’an gave us the precise naming for the structure of Earth using
the word “Tibaqa” or layers, and it has given us the accurate number
for these layers which is seven, while scientists spent long years and
changed their theories several times to come up with scientific
theories previously mentioned in The Quran and Sunnah. Glory be to
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Steven Wandy
wrote:
>That's what simple optical viewfinders or EVFs are for, brain trust.
But most OVF on small P&S cameras are pretty useless (and that's being
polite).
Pete D
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And most EVFs are bloody awful.
Alan Browne
> On Sun, 7 Jun 2009 15:32:03 -0700 (PDT), Rich<rande...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>> That's what simple optical viewfinders or EVFs are for, brain trust.
You are so obtuse as to nearly be a flatline.
Or is that your brain activity?
Do you understand Oly's strategy at all?
Rich
> "Steven Wandy" <swa...@si.rr.com> wrote in message
>
> news:0ntq251ercu81l9eh...@4ax.com...
>
> > wrote:
>
> >>That's what simple optical viewfinders or EVFs are for, brain trust.
>
> > But most OVF on small P&S cameras are pretty useless (and that's being
> > polite).
>
> And most EVFs are bloody awful.
Except the ones in the G1 and GH1 are BETTER than the cheap optical
viewfinders in the 4/3rds cameras, if focusing manually is your goal.
Rich
wrote:
> On 08-06-09 16:39, Steven Wandy wrote:
>
> > wrote:
>
> >> That's what simple optical viewfinders or EVFs are for, brain trust.
>
> You are so obtuse as to nearly be a flatline.
>
> Or is that your brain activity?
>
> Do you understand Oly's strategy at all?
>
Selling only to women, soccer moms who don't know a thing about
cameras or photography?