Please, check out my digital art website
Michael
feedback. I get to use my friends 5D occasionally for the pieces.
Webbuilding skills are not my strong suit so please forgive... :-)
Thanks,
Michael
--
Pat
> I've been uploading new artwork atwww.PixelKat.com Always interested in
> feedback. I get to use my friends 5D occasionally for the pieces.
> Webbuilding skills are not my strong suit so please forgive... :-)
> Thanks,
> Michael
>
> --
Very nice.
ray
1) having to click to enter a site is obnoxious. Every additional click
looses potential viewers.
2) it does not validate to the w3c standards (see www.w3c.org - html
validator). This may limit access to recent palm top devices which will
probably not render properly.
tony cooper
>On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 00:27:50 +0000, Michael wrote:
>
>> I've been uploading new artwork at www.PixelKat.com Always
>> interested in feedback. I get to use my friends 5D occasionally for the
>> pieces. Webbuilding skills are not my strong suit so please forgive...
>> :-) Thanks,
>> Michael
>
>1) having to click to enter a site is obnoxious. Every additional click
>looses potential viewers.
Yet it didn't loose (sic) you.
>2) it does not validate to the w3c standards (see www.w3c.org - html
>validator). This may limit access to recent palm top devices which will
>probably not render properly.
You mean those little-bitty screens that wouldn't show the artwork to
any advantage? Probably a good thing for Michael.
--
Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida
ray
> On 24 Mar 2009 02:57:52 GMT, ray <r...@zianet.com> wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 00:27:50 +0000, Michael wrote:
>>
>>> I've been uploading new artwork at www.PixelKat.com Always
>>> interested in feedback. I get to use my friends 5D occasionally for
>>> the pieces. Webbuilding skills are not my strong suit so please
>>> forgive... :-) Thanks,
>>> Michael
>>
>>1) having to click to enter a site is obnoxious. Every additional click
>>looses potential viewers.
>
> Yet it didn't loose (sic) you.
Actually, it did - that's as far as I went.
>
>>2) it does not validate to the w3c standards (see www.w3c.org - html
>>validator). This may limit access to recent palm top devices which will
>>probably not render properly.
>
> You mean those little-bitty screens that wouldn't show the artwork to
> any advantage? Probably a good thing for Michael.
Not good if you'd like a presence with younger folks and travelers.
Marcin
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"tony cooper" <tony_co...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> On 24 Mar 2009 02:57:52 GMT, ray <r...@zianet.com> wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 00:27:50 +0000, Michael wrote:
>>
>>> I've been uploading new artwork at www.PixelKat.com Always
>>> interested in feedback. I get to use my friends 5D occasionally for the
>>> pieces. Webbuilding skills are not my strong suit so please forgive...
>>> :-) Thanks,
>>> Michael
>>
>>1) having to click to enter a site is obnoxious. Every additional click
>>looses potential viewers.
>
> Yet it didn't loose (sic) you.
>
How the freaking hell do you navigate around a site without clicking Ray?
And amazingly he managed to get the whole site tested, freaking amazing Ray,
truly wonderous.
Pat
> On Mon, 23 Mar 2009 23:24:50 -0400, tony cooper wrote:
> > On 24 Mar 2009 02:57:52 GMT, ray <r...@zianet.com> wrote:
>
> >>On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 00:27:50 +0000, Michael wrote:
>
> >>> interested in feedback. I get to use my friends 5D occasionally for
> >>> the pieces. Webbuilding skills are not my strong suit so please
> >>> forgive... :-) Thanks,
> >>> Michael
>
> >>1) having to click to enter a site is obnoxious. Every additional click
> >>looses potential viewers.
>
> > Yet it didn't loose (sic) you.
>
> Actually, it did - that's as far as I went.
>
>
>
> >>validator). This may limit access to recent palm top devices which will
> >>probably not render properly.
>
> > You mean those little-bitty screens that wouldn't show the artwork to
> > any advantage? Probably a good thing for Michael.
>
> Not good if you'd like a presence with younger folks and travelers.
Sorry, but this is a PHOTO newsgroup, not a web design one. So while
it is okay to make comments on the website design, you 're supposed to
actually take a look at the pictures. You have succeeded in not
seeing the forest through the trees.
Michael
sheesh dudes...what a stupid bunch of post.
thanks anyway.
"George" <geo...@tiscali.net> wrote in message
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ray
Geez - I guess I missed that when it said "check out my digital art
website" rather than "check out my photos".
ray
Obviously, you don't navigate around without clicking. But when you go to
the site you should enter the site rather than be presented with the
equivalent of 'click here to enter'.
John McWilliams
Where is this written as an absolute??
Michael-
Agreed that your thread generated more heat than light.
You have some nice work in there, but I am speaking only of the
retouching/fixing of other photog's mistakes or models that need
touching up. (Only 'cause I don't care for digital art; it may be superb.)
I have specific questions on specific photos, but perhaps this isn't the
time or place.
--
John McWilliams
Russell D.
> wow. obviously this is the dumbest group to get intelligent feedback from.
> sheesh dudes...what a stupid bunch of post.
> thanks anyway.
>
I like the photos--a lot. I hated the artwork--a lot. You need to have a
thicker skin to play in here.
HTH,
Russell
Troy Piggins
>
> I've been uploading new artwork at www.PixelKat.com Always interested in
> feedback. I get to use my friends 5D occasionally for the pieces.
> Webbuilding skills are not my strong suit so please forgive... :-)
Some /great/ touchups in there.
--
Troy Piggins
Michael
of farting about websites and rules and such...nothing concerning my
original post request. I was surprised to find so many stupid people on
this small corner of the internet...but I guess they have to be somewhere!
"Russell D." <r...@sfcn.org> wrote in message
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tony cooper
wrote:
>nice try Russell. if you read all the previous post, they were just a bunch
>of farting about websites and rules and such...nothing concerning my
>original post request. I was surprised to find so many stupid people on
>this small corner of the internet...but I guess they have to be somewhere!
While there certainly are stupid people in this newsgroup, your post
did not exactly lead the pack in intelligent posts.
What do you mean "check out my digital art website"? A request to
check something out can mean anything from "check for errors" to "go
look at". At least one person checked for errors. If you took your
car to a mechanic and said "check it out", you wouldn't expect a
critique of the car's upholstery fabric design.
I checked out your website, but in the sense of "go look at". I
looked at some of your digital art and found it to be unappealing to
me. That is not a criticism of your art. It's a comment on what is
appealing to me personally.
I was impressed by your digital enhancement of photographs. I looked
at them even though you instructed me to look at the digital art and
not the photo enhancement images. I assume that it was implied that I
could do this.
I have no idea how anyone could provide you with feedback about the
digital art. Do you expect people to say "Move that squelchy bit over
near the blurry bit to better balance the composition"? Asking for
feedback is asking for comment and constructive criticism.
OK, if that's what you want, my comment is "I'm sure you are proud of
it, and that some people will appreciate it, but I don't find it to be
something I'd hang on my wall". I have nothing to offer that is
constructive.
You run a risk when you ask for feedback on creative art or
photographs. If you are expecting nothing but plaudits and praise,
you will usually be disappointed. Russell is correct; you have to
have a thick skin when you open yourself up like this.
>
>"Russell D." <r...@sfcn.org> wrote in message
>news:72vr4aF...@mid.individual.net...
>> Michael wrote:
>>> wow. obviously this is the dumbest group to get intelligent feedback
>>> from. sheesh dudes...what a stupid bunch of post.
>>> thanks anyway.
>>>
>>
>> I like the photos--a lot. I hated the artwork--a lot. You need to have a
>> thicker skin to play in here.
>>
>>
>> HTH,
>>
>>
>> Russell
>
--
Michael
what is so difficult to figure out?? obviously I wasn't asking for feedback
on the actually build of the site. Where in my post did I say only praise
my work? I wasn't asking for that. If I couldn't take criticism I wouldn't
have posted in the first place.
...but thanks anyway, and your right...you had nothing to offer that was
constructive
"tony cooper" <tony_co...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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tony cooper
wrote:
>"Webbuilding skills are not my strong suit so please forgive... :-)"
>
>what is so difficult to figure out?? obviously I wasn't asking for feedback
>on the actually build of the site. Where in my post did I say only praise
>my work? I wasn't asking for that. If I couldn't take criticism I wouldn't
>have posted in the first place.
>
>...but thanks anyway, and your right...you had nothing to offer that was
>constructive
An expected response. No "ooohs" and "aaahs", so you get surly. You
say you don't expect praise, and can take criticism, but when you
don't get praise you denigrate the group for being stupid.
Exactly what kind of "intelligent feedback" did you expect or hope
for? How does one intelligently provide feedback on abstract artistic
creation?
Here's something in the same genre as your that I randomly grabbed off
the web:
http://www.ppmag.com/web-exclusives/images/200609bc_sva_faculty.jpg
Let's see you give some intelligent feedback on this image so we can
learn how someone is supposed to go about doing so. Give us a lesson
in how it should be done.
Pat
> On Thu, 26 Mar 2009 13:51:30 GMT, "Michael" <michae...@verizon.net>
> wrote:
>
> >"Webbuilding skills are not my strong suit so please forgive... :-)"
>
> >what is so difficult to figure out?? obviously I wasn't asking for feedback
> >on the actually build of the site. Where in my post did I say only praise
> >my work? I wasn't asking for that. If I couldn't take criticism I wouldn't
> >have posted in the first place.
>
> >...but thanks anyway, and your right...you had nothing to offer that was
> >constructive
>
> An expected response. No "ooohs" and "aaahs", so you get surly. You
> say you don't expect praise, and can take criticism, but when you
> don't get praise you denigrate the group for being stupid.
>
> Exactly what kind of "intelligent feedback" did you expect or hope
> for? How does one intelligently provide feedback on abstract artistic
> creation?
>
> Here's something in the same genre as your that I randomly grabbed off
> the web: http://www.ppmag.com/web-exclusives/images/200609bc_sva_faculty.jpg
>
> Let's see you give some intelligent feedback on this image so we can
> learn how someone is supposed to go about doing so. Give us a lesson
> in how it should be done.
>
>
>
>
>
> >news:lprms4ljdg03ii9vf...@4ax.com...
> >> On Thu, 26 Mar 2009 04:46:31 GMT, "Michael" <michae...@verizon.net>
Tony, you are trying to make absurd distinctions to justify your
position. "Check out" (or whatever he said) is an idiomatic
expression. You attempt to take it literally would be okay if English
was, say, your 3rd language. But if you are a native speaker, or even
at all fluent, you should know an idiom when you see one (as opposed
to an idiot, which you may or may not be).
Let's look at other examples that should bother you:
When you "order a pizza" do you get pissed off that it comes with a
box that you didn't order? Are you annoyed that a cheese pizza has
cheese but a pepperoni pizza also has cheese?
When you "fill up your car" are you really filling it up or do you
want the gas tank filled up?
When you "stand on line" are you standing on the line, or near the
line, or what if there isn't a line? Or are you standing "in" line?
When you "take a picture" are you really taking one, or did you really
sneak in 2 or 3 pictures when no one was looking?
Does "I use a camera to take pictures" also imply you use a lens or
must you state that separately?
When someone asks you to spell your last name, do you reply, "y-o-u-r-
l-a-s-t-n-a-m-e"? When someone say "can you spell your last name for
me" do you reply "yes".
If these questions leave you stumped, you need some serious help and
should go back to school and complete the 4th grade. If they didn't
leave you stumped, then you are just being a PITA and you should let
it go.
ray
> "Webbuilding skills are not my strong suit so please forgive... :-)"
>
> what is so difficult to figure out?? obviously I wasn't asking for
> feedback on the actually build of the site. Where in my post did I say
> only praise my work? I wasn't asking for that. If I couldn't take
> criticism I wouldn't have posted in the first place.
>
> ...but thanks anyway, and your right...you had nothing to offer that was
> constructive
>
>
> "tony cooper" <tony_co...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:lprms4ljdg03ii9vf...@4ax.com...
I would suggest that in the future you might consider being a little more
precise. "check out my digital art website", to me, means "check out the
web site". If you want folks to instead focus on the images, I might
suggest "check out the digital art on my website" or something similar
that indicates what you really want folks to look at.
tony cooper
<gro...@artisticphotography.us> wrote:
>On Mar 26, 12:11 pm, tony cooper <tony_cooper...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> On Thu, 26 Mar 2009 13:51:30 GMT, "Michael" <michae...@verizon.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >"Webbuilding skills are not my strong suit so please forgive... :-)"
>>
>> >what is so difficult to figure out?? obviously I wasn't asking for feedback
>> >on the actually build of the site. Where in my post did I say only praise
>> >my work? I wasn't asking for that. If I couldn't take criticism I wouldn't
>> >have posted in the first place.
>>
>> >...but thanks anyway, and your right...you had nothing to offer that was
>> >constructive
>>
>> An expected response. No "ooohs" and "aaahs", so you get surly. You
>> say you don't expect praise, and can take criticism, but when you
>> don't get praise you denigrate the group for being stupid.
>>
>> Exactly what kind of "intelligent feedback" did you expect or hope
>> for? How does one intelligently provide feedback on abstract artistic
>> creation?
>>
>> Here's something in the same genre as your that I randomly grabbed off
>> the web: http://www.ppmag.com/web-exclusives/images/200609bc_sva_faculty.jpg
>>
>> Let's see you give some intelligent feedback on this image so we can
>> learn how someone is supposed to go about doing so. Give us a lesson
>> in how it should be done.
>Tony, you are trying to make absurd distinctions to justify your
>position. "Check out" (or whatever he said) is an idiomatic
>expression.
"Check out" certainly is a idiomatic expression. What you've failed
to take into consideration is that it's an idiomatic expression with
two meanings. Both meanings are explained in my first post.
BTW, "whatever he said" is right up there in the Subject line. The
request is ambiguous.
> You attempt to take it literally would be okay if English
>was, say, your 3rd language.
Look up "literally". Michael meant for us to take his suggestion
literally: "in a strict sense" or word-for-word". He just didn't
specify which definition to take literally.
>But if you are a native speaker, or even
>at all fluent, you should know an idiom when you see one (as opposed
>to an idiot, which you may or may not be).
I think I manage all right in English.
>
>Let's look at other examples that should bother you:
Your examples are non sequiturs. They are not examples of phrases
with double meanings.
>When you "order a pizza" do you get pissed off that it comes with a
>box that you didn't order? Are you annoyed that a cheese pizza has
>cheese but a pepperoni pizza also has cheese?
>
>When you "fill up your car" are you really filling it up or do you
>want the gas tank filled up?
>
>When you "stand on line" are you standing on the line, or near the
>line, or what if there isn't a line? Or are you standing "in" line?
The distinction between "stand on line" and "stand in line" is
pondial. In American English, one stands in line. In UK English, one
stands on line.
>When you "take a picture" are you really taking one, or did you really
>sneak in 2 or 3 pictures when no one was looking?
>
>Does "I use a camera to take pictures" also imply you use a lens or
>must you state that separately?
>
>When someone asks you to spell your last name, do you reply, "y-o-u-r-
>l-a-s-t-n-a-m-e"? When someone say "can you spell your last name for
>me" do you reply "yes".
>
>If these questions leave you stumped, you need some serious help and
>should go back to school and complete the 4th grade. If they didn't
>leave you stumped, then you are just being a PITA and you should let
>it go.
Running validator on the web site seemed a bit silly to me. However,
Michael's response seemed even sillier. And snide.