G10 memory battery internal?
Frank H
I have had a look at the Canon G10, as a second and travel camera, but
I could not see any battery to hold the memory, like I have in my S3
IS. Does one have to send this camera to a dealer to replace this
battery? Would be a big step backwards in usability and user
friendlyness.
Perhaps I overlooked it, and it is hiding someplace?
Thanks to those that can shed some light on this for me.
Cheers,
Frank
Sheila
Are you just talking about the camera battery. If so, it is on the
bottom of the camera, there is a slot that you push to one side and the
battery is there with the card.
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Sheila
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Frank H
wrote:
>Are you just talking about the camera battery. If so, it is on the
>bottom of the camera, there is a slot that you push to one side and the
>battery is there with the card.
No, Sheila,
I am talking about the battery that holds the settings, as well as
time and date.
Cheers,
Frank
Sheila
I've never heard of that kind of battery. There is probably memory that
holds this information. I've never had that kind of battery in any of
my digital cameras and I have a few. I also have a G10.
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Sheila
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J. Clarke
Odds are that they are using a supercapacitor for this purpose instead
of a coin cell.
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Frank H
<jclarke...@cox.net> wrote:
>Odds are that they are using a supercapacitor for this purpose instead
>of a coin cell.
>
>--
Hi John,
Yes, you might be right. I had one of those in my Oly 5050.
My S3 IS has one of those larger flat 'button' cells, and when they
give up, after about three years or so, one just sticks in a new one.
But, not so with this capacitor.
I bet the G10 has either a capacitor or a small and seperate lythium
cell. So it would have to be serviced by a dealer, for I saw no easy
way into this camera.
Thanks,
Frank
Justin C
Could this data not be stored in non-volatile memory of the same type on
an SD card?
Justin.
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Justin C, by the sea.
Frank H
wrote:
Hi again Sheila,
And thanks also to those who responded as well.
I just downloaded the manual for the G10 from Canon.
On the very top of page 15, it states:
A rechargeable lithium battery is built into the camera to save such
settings as Date/Time. It seems to charge itself off of the primary
battery in about 4 hours.
If you do not have your primary battery in the camera while not in
use, this built in lithium battery will totally discharge within 3
weeks, and you would have to re-do your settings.
Now I still wonder how much Mr. Canon would charge to replace this
secondary battery when the time comes, and it will.
Cheers,
Frank
Allodoxaphobia
> On Sat, 31 Jan 2009 14:30:14 -0500, Sheila wrote:
>>Frank H wrote:
>>>
>>>> Are you just talking about the camera battery. If so, it is on the
>>>> bottom of the camera, there is a slot that you push to one side and the
>>>> battery is there with the card.
>>>
>>> No, Sheila,
>>> I am talking about the battery that holds the settings, as well as
>>> time and date.
>>
>>holds this information. I've never had that kind of battery in any of
>>my digital cameras and I have a few. I also have a G10.
>
>
> On the very top of page 15, it states:
> A rechargeable lithium battery is built into the camera to save such
> settings as Date/Time. It seems to charge itself off of the primary
> battery in about 4 hours.
> If you do not have your primary battery in the camera while not in
> use, this built in lithium battery will totally discharge within 3
> weeks, and you would have to re-do your settings.
>
> Now I still wonder how much Mr. Canon would charge to replace this
> secondary battery when the time comes, and it will.
About the price of a comparable, new camera, probably.
Ofnuts
> Could this data not be stored in non-volatile memory of the same type on
> an SD card?
The clock should be kept running.
--
Bertrand
Ofnuts
> Now I still wonder how much Mr. Canon would charge to replace this
> secondary battery when the time comes, and it will.
Given the planned longevity and obsolescence of the camera, that would
be the least of my worries.
--
Bertrand
Frank H
wrote:
>Given the planned longevity and obsolescence of the camera, that would
>be the least of my worries.
Yes Bertrand, you are probably right.
Although, I really liked the feel of that cam, and I have not heard
too many bad things about it, this battery kind of makes me shy away
from it. On the cheaper S3 IS and perhaps also on the S5 IS, I can
change that battery in under 25 seconds.
So, in other words, I am still looking for a good travel camera. One
that I can along on hikes, and to Europe in June this year.
Cheers,
Frank
Dave Cohen
on the Canon manual.
Dave Cohen
Prometheus
A capacitor should outlast the camera, but will only maintain clock and
settings for a short period whilst the main battery is replaced, a
Lytham cell could run the clock for ten or more years, which might well
outlast the camera of you use it a lot.
--
Ian G8ILZ
There are always two people in every picture: the photographer and the viewer.
~Ansel Adams
Justin C
Yes, of course. Wasn't thinking.
Sheila
Thank Frank for the information. I guess I will want to keep my battery
in my camera.
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Sheila
http://swdalton.com
Frank H
wrote:
>
>Thank Frank for the information. I guess I will want to keep my battery
>in my camera.
Hi Sheila,
Are you otherwise happy with this G10?
To me it seems quite well constructed, and with the secondary battery
not being as critical as it seemed at first, I should take another
look at it.
Thanks also to everyone that helped out.
Cheers,
Frank
Ofnuts
> On Sun, 01 Feb 2009 01:01:24 +0100, Ofnuts <o.f.n...@la.poste.net>
> wrote:
>
>> Given the planned longevity and obsolescence of the camera, that would
>> be the least of my worries.
>
> Yes Bertrand, you are probably right.
> Although, I really liked the feel of that cam, and I have not heard
> too many bad things about it, this battery kind of makes me shy away
> from it. On the cheaper S3 IS and perhaps also on the S5 IS, I can
> change that battery in under 25 seconds.
Well, I have owned a Olympus C300Z, a Panasonic FZ8, and currently a
Canon 450D (and I have read the user manual end-to-end for each) and
that's the first time I hear about changing the backup battery.
> So, in other words, I am still looking for a good travel camera. One
> that I can along on hikes, and to Europe in June this year.
The G10 :-)
--
Bertrand
Sheila
Sheila
I've only had mine since Christmas and I love it. I got this camera as
a walking around camera as my DSLR was just to big and bulky to always
take with me in the car. Plus it won't tempt would be thieves as my
other cameras would.
--
Sheila
http://swdalton.com
Daguerreotype type
wrote:
>....
>A capacitor should outlast the camera, but will only maintain clock and
>settings for a short period whilst the main battery is replaced, a
>Lytham cell could run the clock for ten or more years, which might well
>outlast the camera of you use it a lot.
Lithium-ion batteries last about five years. After that they're
basically shot.
Chris Malcolm
In which case I guess there must be something wrong with the seven
year old Li-ion battery I'm still using, which has about 2/3 of its
new capacity.
--
Chris Malcolm
Prometheus
type <nos...@no.invalid> writes
I was thinking of a primary, not a secondary cell, as found in many
watches.
whisky-dave
"Frank H" <gacksakura-...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 01 Feb 2009 01:01:24 +0100, Ofnuts <o.f.n...@la.poste.net>
> wrote:
>
>>Given the planned longevity and obsolescence of the camera, that would
>>be the least of my worries.
>
> Yes Bertrand, you are probably right.
> Although, I really liked the feel of that cam, and I have not heard
> too many bad things about it, this battery kind of makes me shy away
> from it. On the cheaper S3 IS and perhaps also on the S5 IS, I can
> change that battery in under 25 seconds.
any idea how long that battery is supposed to last ?
as I have a G10 and didn't/haven't worried about it.
Perhaps the expected lifetime of this battery in the G10 is 5 years or so
while
the sony is 2 years.
> So, in other words, I am still looking for a good travel camera. One
> that I can along on hikes, and to Europe in June this year.
I find it a little on the heavy and large size for what I assume a travel
camera should be,
but I do carry it most of the time, and for me one of the only reasons to
travel
is to take photos so for me a travel camera would be a DSLR with load's of
lenses and stuff to hike about with. In fact my photo stuff would probably
take up more space than clothes, but maybe that's because I'm male ;-)
Daguerreotype type
wrote:
Lucky you. YMMV. But 5 years is the quote I've gotten from those who
watch that industry.