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anir...@gmail.com

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May 29, 2009, 5:12:22 PM5/29/09
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In the old film cameras era, I recall that when you purchase an SLR
camera, it usually comes with a soft or a hard (leather) case. The
case is attached to the camera via a screw to the tripod mount at the
bottom of the camera. I wonder why they do not have any more of this
type of camera case? Since it is attached like a "skin" to the
camera, I usually did not need to buy a camera soft pouch case. The
case will protect the camera outer shell from dust, and perhaps little
bumps; although it will not likely help to reduce impact if the camera
falls. On a second thought, I also wonder if the new padded camera
cases that you can get at the camera stores nowadays can protect the
camera if it falls either. Anyone has some thought about this?
Thanks for the info/discussion.

Trev

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May 29, 2009, 5:26:13 PM5/29/09
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CCC started years ago with padded cases for hikers. I think many may have
had a knock and suvived. as fot the Ever ready cas. Once you have cut out
the openings for the rear scree the menu controlls and lots of other buttons
There is nothing left of the case.
But there are some special armour cases that protect and allow the playing
with buttons

http://www.warehouseexpress.com/product/default.aspx?sku=1028254


Bert Hyman

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May 29, 2009, 6:58:29 PM5/29/09
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anir...@gmail.com wrote:

> In the old film cameras era, I recall that when you purchase an SLR
> camera, it usually comes with a soft or a hard (leather) case. The
> case is attached to the camera via a screw to the tripod mount at the
> bottom of the camera. I wonder why they do not have any more of this
> type of camera case?

Because they don't come at no cost.

But, I've never used any that ever came with any camera I've owned.

--
Bert Hyman St. Paul, MN be...@iphouse.com

Savageduck

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May 29, 2009, 7:02:57 PM5/29/09
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Yes, however the idea became a pain when reloading, and upon discovery
that the leather was actually a paper composite with a leather print.
I give you a K1000 case approximately 35 years on.
http://homepage.mac.com/lco/filechute/K1000-case-W.jpg

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Regards,
Savageduck

Jeff R.

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May 29, 2009, 7:04:56 PM5/29/09
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> anir...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> In the old film cameras era, I recall that when you purchase an SLR
>> camera, it usually comes with a soft or a hard (leather) case. The
>> case is attached to the camera via a screw to the tripod mount at the
>> bottom of the camera. I wonder why they do not have any more of this
>> type of camera case?


Largely because all of the dSLR's "real estate" is occupied with controls,
wheels, buttons and a huge LCD screen. You would not be able to operate the
camera whilst the case was attached, unless it resembled a few thin strips
of leather.

So... a camera thong?

--
Jeff R


Peter Irwin

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May 29, 2009, 7:41:55 PM5/29/09
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In rec.photo.digital Savageduck <savageduck1{REMOVESPAM}@me.com> wrote:
>
> Yes, however the idea became a pain when reloading, and upon discovery
> that the leather was actually a paper composite with a leather print.
> I give you a K1000 case approximately 35 years on.
> http://homepage.mac.com/lco/filechute/K1000-case-W.jpg

The Spotmatic case was real leather (or at least it seems to be)
and very hard wearing. I cary my pentax in it all the time.
I usually remove the camera from its case before taking pictures,
but it does protect the camera against knocks.
I had to cut down the case a bit to so that my pre-spotmatic could
be wound with the case in place since the spotmatic is a mm or two
taller than my old camera. The case is certainly not a paper composite.
I expect that a used spotmatic case would fit your k1000.

Peter.
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Savageduck

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May 29, 2009, 8:13:39 PM5/29/09
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Yup, I had a Spotmatic before the K1000, then I guess the philosophy at
Pentax was, the K1000 wasn't meant to be a top of the line camera, and
only top of the line cameras got real leather.

Hard to believe just how durable the old K1000 has proven to be. (case
not withstanding!)
--
Regards,
Savageduck

Miles

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May 30, 2009, 12:02:39 AM5/30/09
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My nice old Canon case which is still in perfect shape after 40 years
(has it really been that long?). So doesn't anyone make a nice
leather case for digital cameras that mounts on the bottom through a
screw hole in the tripod mount where one can open the clasp button and
the top portion drops down, just leaving the bottom attached, and you
start adjusting the camera and taking pics, just as with the old Canon
case?
Miles

nospam

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May 30, 2009, 3:26:59 AM5/30/09
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In article <Cd2Ul.27681$c45....@nlpi065.nbdc.sbc.com>, Miles
<mile...@REMOVEMEpacbell.net> wrote:

> My nice old Canon case which is still in perfect shape after 40 years
> (has it really been that long?). So doesn't anyone make a nice
> leather case for digital cameras that mounts on the bottom through a
> screw hole in the tripod mount where one can open the clasp button and
> the top portion drops down, just leaving the bottom attached, and you
> start adjusting the camera and taking pics, just as with the old Canon
> case?

the problem is that a dslr has an lcd screen and numerous buttons on
the back, and any case would likely block that, making it difficult to
use the camera.

Allodoxaphobia

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May 30, 2009, 10:55:08 AM5/30/09
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Mr. Strat

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May 31, 2009, 6:50:40 PM5/31/09
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<c8540cc5-8b4f-4e9a...@s21g2000vbb.googlegroups.com>,
<anir...@gmail.com> wrote:

The correct term is NeverReady Case.

Michael

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May 31, 2009, 7:19:30 PM5/31/09
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When I got my first SLR (Nikon F) in 1969 it was assumed that only rank
amateurs used the "never ready" case. Anyone who knew what they were
doing, or wanted to appear that way at any rate, just put a neck strap
on the camera and skipped the case. Have assumptions changed?
--
Michael

George Kerby

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May 31, 2009, 8:07:42 PM5/31/09
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On 5/31/09 6:19 PM, in article 2009053119193016807-adunc79617@mypacksnet,
"Michael" <adunc...@mypacks.net> wrote:

The 'manly' thing is not to have any case. The black body with the scarring
of the paint to the brass metal surface showed that you were truly the
testosterone troubadour of the photog group. ARRUGH!

C J Campbell

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May 31, 2009, 8:39:47 PM5/31/09
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On 2009-05-29 14:12:22 -0700, anir...@gmail.com said:

They were unpopular, mainly because they took too much time to unfasten
and get the camera ready. The only thing they did was protect the
camera from minor scratches. People complain because it takes two or
three seconds for their digital cameras to power up. They would have a
fit if it took ten times that long to unfasten a case, too. Many a pro
does not even know where his lens caps are.

But if you want one, most manufacturers still make them for their
consumer cameras. You just have to order it. If you have a pro type
camera, forget getting one from the manufacturer. You will have to go
to some third party supplier.

Much more popular are belt pouches and holster systems, which offer
better protection and faster accessibility.

--
Waddling Eagle
World Famous Flight Instructor

Their Inexperienced Ignorance Never Ends...

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May 31, 2009, 10:27:15 PM5/31/09
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On Sun, 31 May 2009 17:39:47 -0700, C J Campbell
<christophercam...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>On 2009-05-29 14:12:22 -0700, anir...@gmail.com said:
>
>> In the old film cameras era, I recall that when you purchase an SLR
>> camera, it usually comes with a soft or a hard (leather) case. The
>> case is attached to the camera via a screw to the tripod mount at the
>> bottom of the camera. I wonder why they do not have any more of this
>> type of camera case? Since it is attached like a "skin" to the
>> camera, I usually did not need to buy a camera soft pouch case. The
>> case will protect the camera outer shell from dust, and perhaps little
>> bumps; although it will not likely help to reduce impact if the camera
>> falls. On a second thought, I also wonder if the new padded camera
>> cases that you can get at the camera stores nowadays can protect the
>> camera if it falls either. Anyone has some thought about this?
>> Thanks for the info/discussion.
>
>They were unpopular, mainly because they took too much time to unfasten
>and get the camera ready. The only thing they did was protect the
>camera from minor scratches. People complain because it takes two or
>three seconds for their digital cameras to power up. They would have a
>fit if it took ten times that long to unfasten a case, too. Many a pro
>does not even know where his lens caps are.
>

Yet they pride themselves on a camera design that takes many moments of
lost photos to change to a new focal-length lens to capture the subject
properly. Ooops! It flew away! Ooops! The shot victim is already collapsed
and already loaded in the closed & fleeing ambulance! Ooops! That crashing
plane already landed out of sight behind the buildings! Ooops! The moment
is lost forever! Ooops! ... <insert scenario of your choice that has
caused multitudes of lost photos due to DSLR lens-change design>. Enjoy
your fast burst modes while you miss those thousands of award-winning
photos because you were ineptly busy changing lenses on your pride & joy,
highly-antiquated, DSLR.

LOL!

Dudley Hanks

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May 31, 2009, 11:30:41 PM5/31/09
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"Mr. Strat" <r...@nospam.techline.com> wrote in message
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If you shot any kind of volume, they just slowed you down.

Even today, I don't put my camera in a case, my wife does. She's always
telling me the camera is protected in the case. And, she's trying to teach
our daughter to keep her camera protected. So far, our daughter seems to be
more like her old man, keeping the camera out and handy.

Still, had I had my cam in a bag at the zoo, my lens would be in better
shape today... :)

Take Care,
Dudley


Dudley Hanks

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May 31, 2009, 11:39:21 PM5/31/09
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"Dudley Hanks" <dha...@blind-apertures.ca> wrote in message
news:BXHUl.28909$Db2.15775@edtnps83...

BTW, if anybody has a few extra bucks and would like to help out with lens
repair / replacement, don't forget you can paypal your support to:

dha...@blind-apertures.ca

All support very much appreciated.

Take Care,
Dudley


Miles

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Jun 1, 2009, 12:32:02 AM6/1/09
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I'm usually a Canon S70 and believe such a case would work fine with a
cutout in the lower front for the lens and similar on the back to
access the full LCD & a couple of buttons. Only some Chinese
ingenuity is needed for a proper design! Perhaps the same with a dslr.
Perhaps it could have a couple of covers areas that open & close such
as I have for my mobile phone N95-8gb.

Another thing I do to protect the camera or mobile phone is that I
have a button hold sewn into all my shirt pockets which accommodates a
shoestring sized cord to the instrument and it cannot be dropped more
than a few inches (also if wanted, these cords frequently are joined
with a snap catch which allows instant movement farther away such as
to show someone a pic or allow someone else to take a pic. Of course,
the instrument has a separate wrist strap for use in such occasions.

Michael J Davis

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Jun 1, 2009, 5:43:11 AM6/1/09
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C J Campbell <christophercam...@hotmail.com> was inspired to
say

>On 2009-05-29 14:12:22 -0700, anir...@gmail.com said:
>
>> In the old film cameras era, I recall that when you purchase an SLR
>> camera, it usually comes with a soft or a hard (leather) case. The
>> case is attached to the camera via a screw to the tripod mount at the
>> bottom of the camera. I wonder why they do not have any more of this
>> type of camera case? Since it is attached like a "skin" to the
>> camera, I usually did not need to buy a camera soft pouch case. The
>> case will protect the camera outer shell from dust, and perhaps little
>> bumps; although it will not likely help to reduce impact if the camera
>> falls. On a second thought, I also wonder if the new padded camera
>> cases that you can get at the camera stores nowadays can protect the
>> camera if it falls either. Anyone has some thought about this?
>> Thanks for the info/discussion.
>
>They were unpopular, mainly because they took too much time to unfasten
>and get the camera ready. The only thing they did was protect the
>camera from minor scratches. People complain because it takes two or
>three seconds for their digital cameras to power up. They would have a
>fit if it took ten times that long to unfasten a case, too. Many a pro
>does not even know where his lens caps are.

The real problem was that the flap that went over the top would bob up
in front of the camera lens!!

However, I'm not too proud to admit that I used my Leica M3 for years in
one - but the Leica case had the advantage that the cover could be
completely removed, and the camera was protected in the little cradle
that held the body. Then I got a Benser bag (the first equipment case -
AFAIK - that opened away from the body to give rapid access to the
contents); nice, but heavy!


>
>But if you want one, most manufacturers still make them for their
>consumer cameras. You just have to order it. If you have a pro type
>camera, forget getting one from the manufacturer. You will have to go
>to some third party supplier.
>
>Much more popular are belt pouches and holster systems, which offer
>better protection and faster accessibility.

But too easy to sit on, with the consequences of damage to vital parts!

Mike
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Bob Larter

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Jun 1, 2009, 8:37:30 AM6/1/09
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anir...@gmail.com wrote:
> In the old film cameras era, I recall that when you purchase an SLR
> camera, it usually comes with a soft or a hard (leather) case. The
> case is attached to the camera via a screw to the tripod mount at the
> bottom of the camera. I wonder why they do not have any more of this
> type of camera case?

Probably because they do bugger-all to protect the camera or lens from
being dropped, & they're no good if you change lenses.


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Bob Larter

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<http://www.ikelite.com/web_two/can_5dmkii.html>

Jesus fucking Christ! Would you look at that thing? It kind of reminds
me of H.G. Wells time machine.

Bob Larter

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Their Inexperienced Ignorance Never Ends... wrote:
> On Sun, 31 May 2009 17:39:47 -0700, C J Campbell
> <christophercam...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2009-05-29 14:12:22 -0700, anir...@gmail.com said:
>>
>>> In the old film cameras era, I recall that when you purchase an SLR
>>> camera, it usually comes with a soft or a hard (leather) case. The
>>> case is attached to the camera via a screw to the tripod mount at the
>>> bottom of the camera. I wonder why they do not have any more of this
>>> type of camera case? Since it is attached like a "skin" to the
>>> camera, I usually did not need to buy a camera soft pouch case. The
>>> case will protect the camera outer shell from dust, and perhaps little
>>> bumps; although it will not likely help to reduce impact if the camera
>>> falls. On a second thought, I also wonder if the new padded camera
>>> cases that you can get at the camera stores nowadays can protect the
>>> camera if it falls either. Anyone has some thought about this?
>>> Thanks for the info/discussion.
>> They were unpopular, mainly because they took too much time to unfasten
>> and get the camera ready. The only thing they did was protect the
>> camera from minor scratches. People complain because it takes two or
>> three seconds for their digital cameras to power up. They would have a
>> fit if it took ten times that long to unfasten a case, too. Many a pro
>> does not even know where his lens caps are.
>>
>
> Yet they pride them[*SLAP!*]

Eh? Did you say something?

PS: I'm still looking forward to seeing some of your (no doubt) amazing
P&S shots. ;^)

Michael

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Jun 2, 2009, 12:19:42 AM6/2/09
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Actually, lugging around the Nikon F required some testosterone. Even
with the plain pentaprism it was (is) a formidable beast and a valuable
weapon in the field when swung at the end of its camera strap.
--
Michael

GregS

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Jun 2, 2009, 1:43:33 PM6/2/09
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If your using the camera, you don't want the case.

There would be the case of perhaps climbing where you don't want
the camera getting bumped around. Then you have to undo the case while
your hanging from a cliff.

greg

Peter Irwin

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Jun 2, 2009, 2:32:41 PM6/2/09
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In rec.photo.digital GregS <zekf...@zekfrivolous.com> wrote:
>
> If your using the camera, you don't want the case.
>
> There would be the case of perhaps climbing where you don't want
> the camera getting bumped around. Then you have to undo the case while
> your hanging from a cliff.
>
I carry a camera almost all the time. I don't use it all the time,
I just like to have one with me. The case is pretty effective at
protecting the camera from minor bumps. I agree that I would
normally remove the case entirely before using the camera.

Peter.
--
pir...@shell.ktb.net


C J Campbell

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Jun 2, 2009, 3:18:13 PM6/2/09
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On 2009-06-01 02:43:11 -0700, Michael J Davis <mjdu...@trustsof.co.uk> said:

> C J Campbell <christophercam...@hotmail.com> was inspired to say
>>

>> But if you want one, most manufacturers still make them for their
>> consumer cameras. You just have to order it. If you have a pro type
>> camera, forget getting one from the manufacturer. You will have to go
>> to some third party supplier.
>>
>> Much more popular are belt pouches and holster systems, which offer
>> better protection and faster accessibility.
>
> But too easy to sit on, with the consequences of damage to vital parts!
>
> Mike

<Snork>

Which is why I use a Blackrapid R strap if carrying just one body. This
strap can also be screwed into the tripod mount of a long lens, making
it much more comfortable to carry.

http://www.blackrapid.com/

If carrying two, I use a CameraSlingers Duel Deluxe strap, though I may
get the Blackrapid RS DR-1 double strap when it comes out. The
Blackrapid straps are much higher quality.

http://www.cameraslingers.net/

I have run into two problems with these straps:

1) The strap mount must be entirely removed if the camera is to be used
on a monopod or tripod.

2) When removing the CameraSlingers strap from your shoulders, it is
very easy to slam a camera with a long lens into the ground. Best to
unclip the cameras from the strap first. I can see this being a problem
with the Blackrapid double strap, too.

There is a third problem with dual straps -- they look like a manzierre
or some fool thing. And it looks like you are wearing it backwards, on
the outside of your clothes. As if we do not have problems with people
thinking we are all pervs anyway.

And the straps do scratch furniture.

Chris Malcolm

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Jun 2, 2009, 7:05:39 PM6/2/09
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In rec.photo.digital GregS <zekf...@zekfrivolous.com> wrote:

If you're scrambling you should be able to stand hands free most of
the time. If it's the kind of climbing where most of the time you'd
fall off if at least one hand wasn't being used to hold you on then
you ought to be using rope protection. And if you're using rope
protection you should be able to get a camera out of a bag without too
much difficulty. Rock climbing photographers who track heroic climbers
up very difficult rock faces will change lenses while hanging (on
rope) from a cliff.

If you carry an uncased camera up difficult climbs or even scrambles
you do run quite a serious risk of it swinging round into a damaging
impact with rock, or you slipping and crushing it into the rock.

--
Chris Malcolm

whisky-dave

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Jun 4, 2009, 8:57:51 AM6/4/09
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"Michael J Davis" <mjdu...@trustsof.co.uk> wrote in message
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>C J Campbell <christophercam...@hotmail.com> was inspired to
>say
>>On 2009-05-29 14:12:22 -0700, anir...@gmail.com said:
>>
>>> In the old film cameras era, I recall that when you purchase an SLR
>>> camera, it usually comes with a soft or a hard (leather) case. The
>>> case is attached to the camera via a screw to the tripod mount at the
>>> bottom of the camera. I wonder why they do not have any more of this
>>> type of camera case? Since it is attached like a "skin" to the
>>> camera, I usually did not need to buy a camera soft pouch case. The
>>> case will protect the camera outer shell from dust, and perhaps little
>>> bumps; although it will not likely help to reduce impact if the camera
>>> falls. On a second thought, I also wonder if the new padded camera
>>> cases that you can get at the camera stores nowadays can protect the
>>> camera if it falls either. Anyone has some thought about this?
>>> Thanks for the info/discussion.
>>
>>They were unpopular, mainly because they took too much time to unfasten
>>and get the camera ready.

I though it was cost, but I did have a cheap one and found it useful.
I used to carry a few camera around and it certainly stopped them damaging
each other from rubbing and knocking against each other.

> The only thing they did was protect the
>>camera from minor scratches. People complain because it takes two or three
>>seconds for their digital cameras to power up. They would have a fit if it
>>took ten times that long to unfasten a case, too. Many a pro does not even
>>know where his lens caps are.
>
> The real problem was that the flap that went over the top would bob up in
> front of the camera lens!!

Mine would I do that if I tried to take a shot with that part of teh case
still atached.
Mine had a key&hook and I uswed to remove that secion of the case
just before removing the lens cap.
But that was on my old Praktica L which didn't even have a battery.
I wound the film on by hand too ;-0


>
> However, I'm not too proud to admit that I used my Leica M3 for years in
> one - but the Leica case had the advantage that the cover could be
> completely removed, and the camera was protected in the little cradle that
> held the body.

Sounds very much like my cheap case.


>>
>>But if you want one, most manufacturers still make them for their consumer
>>cameras. You just have to order it. If you have a pro type camera, forget
>>getting one from the manufacturer. You will have to go to some third party
>>supplier.
>>
>>Much more popular are belt pouches and holster systems, which offer better
>>protection and faster accessibility.
>
> But too easy to sit on, with the consequences of damage to vital parts!

isn't that part of the fun ;-)


Don B

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Jun 7, 2009, 7:09:32 AM6/7/09
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I still have a Nikkormat ftn in the drawer that cane with that type case.


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