Interesting Site
Dave Cohen
http://tinyurl.com/6nnehk
I don't know how it's done (suggestions welcome), but I thought it was
quite impressive.
Dave Cohen
ray
Footnote indicates it's a 'flash'. I'd be more impressed if he just
brought the damned picture up instead of wasting my time and bandwidth
with the animation.
J�rgen Exner
Firefox with FlashBlocker activated shows only a black window with an
arrow, indicating that the page is using some Flash. Against better
judgement I activated the Flash. Despite DSL it took too long to load
for my patience, therefore a definite no-go for me.
Plain HTML with embedded pictures still works best!
jue
Savageduck
Yup! A Flash multi-stitch, mulit-axis 360 horizontal & 180 vertical panorama.
This is similar to the technique used for the multi-stitch shot at the
Obama inauguration.
http://www.davidbergman.net/blog/2009/01/22/how-i-made-a-1474-megapixel-photo-during-president-obamas-inaugural-address/
My
broadband was able to serve it up promptly, without the problems
reported by others.
I can appreciate all of the issues related to Flash, but it works well
in my environment.
--
Regards,
Savageduck
Ron Hunter
There are many legitimate uses for Flash animation, but some sites
really go overboard, using it for EVERYTHING, and wasting bandwidth, and
cpu cycles with overhead.
J. Clarke
Kind of hard to do a 4 pi steradian view with zoom by just "bringing up the
damned picture". While I'm no fan of Flash that's one example of
appropriate use IMO.
Ron Hunter
Not Given
"J�rgen Exner" <jurg...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:mgbnv4tpofor8ikq0...@4ax.com...
Pretty much impossible to do a 360 degree spherical VR pan image without
Flash or Java. Huge file, but outstanding image.
John McWilliams
Plays/displays just fine in Safari, Mac,. at least as far as navigation
goes. Does not zoom in or out, dunno if it's supposed to.
Here are the error messages that display at the bottom:
NFO: registered to: julian kalmar
ERROR: loading plugin "flashutilities/buttons/btn_closefs.jpg" failed
ERROR: loading plugin "flashutilities/buttons/btn_up.jpg" failed
ERROR: loading plugin "flashutilities/fs.png" failed
ERROR: loading plugin "flashutilities/buttons/btn_openfs.jpg" failed
ERROR: loading plugin "flashutilities/buttons/btn_down.jpg" failed
ERROR: loading plugin "flashutilities/buttons/btn_right.jpg" failed
ERROR: loading plugin "flashutilities/buttons/btn_minus.jpg" failed
ERROR: loading plugin "flashutilities/buttons/btn_left.jpg" failed
ERROR: loading plugin "flashutilities/plugins/options.swf" failed
With all those 'failures', I am surprised I could navigate.
Lovely work!
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John McWilliams
Ron Hunter
Tzortzakakis Dimitrios
? "Dave Cohen" <us...@example.net> ?????? ??? ??????
news:gtga3v$2ls$1...@news.motzarella.org...
means church). Loads fine on 1mbps DSL.
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Tzortzakakis Dimitrios
major in electrical engineering
mechanized infantry reservist
hordad AT otenet DOT gr
Me
Try windows - a far more stable operating system.
I only got a list of 2 errors :-)
http://i43.tinypic.com/dy5f2v.jpg
Savageduck
He made a funny!
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Regards,
Savageduck
Bob Larter
Wow. That's impressive as hell. Try zooming right up to the walls - it
loads up to full resolution. You can zoom right in to the book on one of
the chairs & read the title on it.
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. | ,. w , "Some people are alive only because
\|/ \|/ it is illegal to kill them." Perna condita delenda est
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Bob Larter
On this particular site, it'd be impossible to achieve the effect using
plain HTML.
Me
Wow - a Mac user who saw the smiley before launching in to "attack is
the best defense" mode.
Bob Larter
> Savageduck wrote:
>> I can appreciate all of the issues related to Flash, but it works well
>> in my environment.
>
> Plays/displays just fine in Safari, Mac,. at least as far as navigation
> goes. Does not zoom in or out, dunno if it's supposed to.
Yes, it is. On a PC, you can zoom with the scroll wheel as well as with
the buttons.
> Here are the error messages that display at the bottom:
>
> NFO: registered to: julian kalmar
> ERROR: loading plugin "flashutilities/buttons/btn_closefs.jpg" failed
> ERROR: loading plugin "flashutilities/buttons/btn_up.jpg" failed
> ERROR: loading plugin "flashutilities/fs.png" failed
> ERROR: loading plugin "flashutilities/buttons/btn_openfs.jpg" failed
> ERROR: loading plugin "flashutilities/buttons/btn_down.jpg" failed
> ERROR: loading plugin "flashutilities/buttons/btn_right.jpg" failed
> ERROR: loading plugin "flashutilities/buttons/btn_minus.jpg" failed
> ERROR: loading plugin "flashutilities/buttons/btn_left.jpg" failed
> ERROR: loading plugin "flashutilities/plugins/options.swf" failed
I take it that it didn't display all the navigation buttons?
> With all those 'failures', I am surprised I could navigate.
> Lovely work!
Sure is!
Bob Larter
> On Sat, 2 May 2009 10:05:36 -0400, in rec.photo.digital "Not Given"
> <no...@none.invalid> wrote:
>
>> Pretty much impossible to do a 360 degree spherical VR pan image without
>> Flash or Java. Huge file, but outstanding image.
>
> had this as an output option.
Of course that means that you have to have the Quicktime suite installed.
Savageduck
My
broadband
Some of the folks around here aren't playing the OS/Platform or
Canon/Nikon/Olympus/Pentax war game.
...and sometimes humor is detectable.
Now back to the issue at hand. When are you going to get a real computer?
--
Regards,
Savageduck
Me
I have Vista on one machine, XP on another really old machine (this
one). This is an old AMD Athlon with 3gb Ram and IDE drives running XP.
The other is a dual core pentium with 2gb ram and SATA drives running
Vista.
The (5 year) old machine runs faster doing most stuff than the new ( 1
year old) machine. That's what MS calls "progress". Go figure. Even
worse - it's an OEM install and I can't "downgrade" it to XP, and my XP
is OEM and I can't transfer it to the faster/slower machine.
I *hate* Vista. Almost every day there's been a new annoyance. Not big
issues on their own, and the OS itself seems quite stable, but combined
they add up to make it a complete pain in the arse.
David J Taylor
[]
> I don't know - but soon...
> I have Vista on one machine, XP on another really old machine (this
> one). This is an old AMD Athlon with 3gb Ram and IDE drives running
> XP. The other is a dual core pentium with 2gb ram and SATA drives
> running Vista.
> The (5 year) old machine runs faster doing most stuff than the new ( 1
> year old) machine. That's what MS calls "progress". Go figure. Even
> worse - it's an OEM install and I can't "downgrade" it to XP, and my
> XP is OEM and I can't transfer it to the faster/slower machine.
> I *hate* Vista. Almost every day there's been a new annoyance. Not
> big issues on their own, and the OS itself seems quite stable, but
> combined they add up to make it a complete pain in the arse.
I have a mixture of Vista and XP here, and I've actually come to quite
like Vista. Perhaps I've been luck, but it's been stable and a pleasure
to work with. That's on a 3GB system, and you do seem to have things the
wrong way round by giving the newer OS less memory.
Perhaps if performance is an issue for you, Windows 7 may be an
improvement. There's a free release candidate which lasts for one year
available for general download on Tuesday.
Cheers,
David
Paul Bartram
> "Me" <us...@domain.invalid> wrote
> ...XP on another really old machine (this
one). This is an old AMD Athlon with 3gb Ram and IDE drives running XP.
Oh now you're making me feel depressed. My Athlon 64 only has 512 Mb of RAM.
Seems to work though, but I am definitely *not* going to try Vista on it!
Paul
Savageduck
My
broadband
was
Well I have a collection of Macs (and buried somewhere is an Apple IIe
& a vintage 8088 steam driven device!)
My latest is a PowerBook Pro 2.93Ghz + 8 Gb. I am very happy with that.
I am planing to get a seperate monitor to use with the PB at my desk.
I used to have to use a Windows machine at work ( I have retired so
that problem is fixed) and have always been happy with my Mac-centric
home.
I have thought of getting emulation SW such as VMware or Parallels to
run Windows, or try a Bootcamp Windows partition, but I cannot think
why I would want to do that to my self.
--
Regards,
Savageduck
Eric Stevens
I have a similar setup, except that Vista is on a laptop and Xtra is
on a loaded-for-bear Acer.
The laptop is ideal fo downloading my camera on a trip but then its a
nightmare to get things ot of the laptop to the Acer by means of the
home network. "You don't have permission to do that" the laptop
screams. Sometimes I think the problem is in the Vista of the laptop.
Othertimes I think it is in the XP of the Acer. On a couple of
occasions I have found that Panda anti-virus has objected to the RAW
files of my Nikon D300 as containing a horrible worm. Its almost
enough to drive me back to good old quarter-plate days.
Eric Stevens
Neil Ellwood
Works with firefox in suse linux.
--
Neil
reverse ra and delete l
Linux user 335851
J. Clarke
Moving an OEM copy is not all that difficult you know, as long as it's a
system builder copy and not one keyed to a specific brand of machine. If it
doesn't activate, just call Microsoft, give the automated system the code it
wants, if it doesn't take it you'll get a human, tell them that you blew
your motherboard and replaced it, and they'll generally give you an
activation code.
Technically speaking they can refuse activation on a motherboard
replacement, but I've never had them actually do it.
FWIW, I picked up a quad core Gateway for 700 bucks the other day from Best
Buy. It came with Vista Home Premium that I need to upgrade to Ultimate at
some point. I put Sun's Virtual Box on it and installed Linux in the box
and it runs Linux faster in the box than I've ever had it run natively on
anything else.
John McWilliams
Works as should in Camino and FF, though I get error messages about
certain jpgs not loading.
Zoom by controls as well as two fingers on the MBP keyboard.
--
John McWilliams
John McWilliams
> Dave Cohen wrote:
>> Take a look at this:
>> http://tinyurl.com/6nnehk
>> I don't know how it's done (suggestions welcome), but I thought it was
>> quite impressive.
>> Dave Cohen
>
> Wow. That's impressive as hell. Try zooming right up to the walls - it
> loads up to full resolution. You can zoom right in to the book on one of
> the chairs & read the title on it.
Yeah, but you can't make the book open so as to read it.,,,
Crikey! I know CSI can do it....
--
john mcwilliams
Estne volumen in toga, an solum tibi libet me videre?
David Ruether
"Ron Hunter" <rphu...@charter.net> wrote in message news:eOSdneliKv3XzWHU...@giganews.com...
Yes, superb. Scalable, navigable, whatever you want to do in the image,
and it remains remarkably sharp everywhere. For a hint (maybe...) for
how it was produced, navigate dead center and straight down, then enlarge
the 360x360 degree fisheye view that you find there...;-)
--DR
David Ruether
"David Ruether" <d_ru...@thotmail.com> wrote in message news:gtn3ba$4q1$1...@ruby.cit.cornell.edu...
> Yes, superb. Scalable, navigable, whatever you want to do in the image,
> and it remains remarkably sharp everywhere. For a hint (maybe...) for
> how it was produced, navigate dead center and straight down, then enlarge
> the 360x360 degree fisheye view that you find there...;-)
> --DR
Well, OK, 360x180...? 8^)
BTW, it loads fast with a cable 'Net connection and it worked immediately
in I.E. for me (with navigation working well by just grabbing something in the
image with the mouse and moving it). Nifty!
--DR
Bob Larter
If you've got a scroll-wheel on your mouse, you can zoom with it too.
Dave Cohen
> Bob Larter wrote:
>> Dave Cohen wrote:
>>> Take a look at this:
>>> http://tinyurl.com/6nnehk
>>> I don't know how it's done (suggestions welcome), but I thought it
>>> was quite impressive.
>>> Dave Cohen
>>
>> Wow. That's impressive as hell. Try zooming right up to the walls - it
>> loads up to full resolution. You can zoom right in to the book on one
>> of the chairs & read the title on it.
>
> Yeah, but you can't make the book open so as to read it.,,,
> Crikey! I know CSI can do it....
>
open the book, but are able to edit it.
Dave Cohen
whisky-dave
"Bob Larter" <bobby...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:49ff302e$1...@dnews.tpgi.com.au...
> If you've got a scroll-wheel on your mouse, you can zoom with it too.
Works without a scroll wheel too.
PC running XP
Shift Zooms in
Ctrl Zooms out
whisky-dave
"Savageduck" <savageduck1{REMOVESPAM}@me.com> wrote in message
news:2009050302044010672-savageduck1REMOVESPAM@mecom...
> Well I have a collection of Macs (and buried somewhere is an Apple IIe & a
> vintage 8088 steam driven device!)
> My latest is a PowerBook Pro 2.93Ghz + 8 Gb. I am very happy with that. I
> am planing to get a seperate monitor to use with the PB at my desk.
Any idea which one as there's quite a range to go for. (non-Apple)
I'd really like to see the Apple 24" LED and compare that to a cheapo
standard of about 1/4 the price. I just wonder how much better it might be
compared to others.
> I used to have to use a Windows machine at work ( I have retired so that
> problem is fixed) and have always been happy with my Mac-centric home.
> I have thought of getting emulation SW such as VMware or Parallels to run
> Windows, or try a Bootcamp Windows partition, but I cannot think why I
> would want to do that to my self.
I plan on doing that to try out some of the large amount of games available
for the PC.
One advantage is that you can switch over to a PC to see how your pictures
look
via IE on a PC.
Savageduck
>
> "Savageduck" <savageduck1{REMOVESPAM}@me.com> wrote in message
> news:2009050302044010672-savageduck1REMOVESPAM@mecom...
>
>> Well I have a collection of Macs (and buried somewhere is an Apple IIe & a
>> vintage 8088 steam driven device!)
>> My latest is a PowerBook Pro 2.93Ghz + 8 Gb. I am very happy with that. I
>> am planing to get a seperate monitor to use with the PB at my desk.
BTW that is a MacBook Pro, my old PowerBook has been relegated to
"lifeboat" status (I do have some ideas for it, as it is still a great
functioning machine.)
>
> Any idea which one as there's quite a range to go for. (non-Apple)
I have been looking at the NEC NEC2490 which has reasonable reviews,
and the Samsung SyncMaster 245T.
>
> I'd really like to see the Apple 24" LED and compare that to a cheapo
> standard of about 1/4 the price. I just wonder how much better it might be
> compared to others.
I think the issue with the Apple 24" is going to be the glossy screen,
though they do look very pretty!
I have a hard time reconciling their cost with function for a photo
editing desk.
>
>
>> I used to have to use a Windows machine at work ( I have retired so that
>> problem is fixed) and have always been happy with my Mac-centric home.
>> I have thought of getting emulation SW such as VMware or Parallels to run
>> Windows, or try a Bootcamp Windows partition, but I cannot think why I
>> would want to do that to my self.
>
> I plan on doing that to try out some of the large amount of games available
> for the PC.
> One advantage is that you can switch over to a PC to see how your pictures
> look
> via IE on a PC.
All valid points, however I am not exactly a gamer, and not being in
anyway a "Pro" or "Ego" publisher, I could care less what I share looks
like on IE.
--
Regards,
Savageduck
Bob Larter
Well there you go. Thanks for the info.
Bob Larter
> On 2009-05-05 05:34:37 -0700, "whisky-dave"
> <whisk...@final.front.ear> said:
>
>>
>> "Savageduck" <savageduck1{REMOVESPAM}@me.com> wrote in message
>> news:2009050302044010672-savageduck1REMOVESPAM@mecom...
>>
>>> Well I have a collection of Macs (and buried somewhere is an Apple
>>> IIe & a
>>> vintage 8088 steam driven device!)
>>> My latest is a PowerBook Pro 2.93Ghz + 8 Gb. I am very happy with
>>> that. I
>>> am planing to get a seperate monitor to use with the PB at my desk.
>
> BTW that is a MacBook Pro, my old PowerBook has been relegated to
> "lifeboat" status (I do have some ideas for it, as it is still a great
> functioning machine.)
>>
>> Any idea which one as there's quite a range to go for. (non-Apple)
>
> I have been looking at the NEC NEC2490 which has reasonable reviews, and
> the Samsung SyncMaster 245T.
>>
>> I'd really like to see the Apple 24" LED and compare that to a cheapo
>> standard of about 1/4 the price. I just wonder how much better it
>> might be
>> compared to others.
>
> I think the issue with the Apple 24" is going to be the glossy screen,
> though they do look very pretty!
'Glossy' screens suck big time. If you can't/won't close all your
curtains/blinds & turn off the lights while you're editing photos, the
reflections will drive you nuts.