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Kurt Sloane

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May 20, 2009, 6:22:51 AM5/20/09
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Ah, Cardiff, City of Culture:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/maciejdakowicz/3055945632/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/maciejdakowicz/2880091916/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/maciejdakowicz/2065913541/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/maciejdakowicz/86142813/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/maciejdakowicz/290702374/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/maciejdakowicz/762244345/

Although the media across the world have picked up on these photos, the
crazy thing is that this is quite a "normal" sight in most major towns and
cities in the UK on a Friday and Saturday night.

David J Taylor

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May 20, 2009, 6:43:54 AM5/20/09
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Kurt Sloane wrote:
> Ah, Cardiff, City of Culture:

It's where Dr. Who and Torchwood are made, so it /must/ be! <G>

David

Roger Blackwell

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May 20, 2009, 7:26:15 AM5/20/09
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"Kurt Sloane" <m...@privacy.net> wrote in message
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Well at least people don't get shot as they lay there which would happen in
some parts of the world. Life in the UK has its problems and its alienated
youth but I would still rather live here than in a country that bans
alcohol.

Roger


Chris H

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May 20, 2009, 7:32:01 AM5/20/09
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In message <4a13e8d1$1...@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com>, Roger Blackwell
<r.blac...@nospamhomecall.co.uk> writes

The US got it back I think but still bans alcohol for under 21 in most
places I thought. Though you are more likely to be shot in US cities
than UK ones at the moment but it is getting touch and go these days.


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PDM

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May 20, 2009, 7:48:44 AM5/20/09
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> Though you are more likely to be shot in US cities
> than UK ones at the moment but it is getting touch and go these days.
>
But, not if you are under 18 and black I'm afraid.
PDM


Caesar Romano

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May 20, 2009, 8:04:44 AM5/20/09
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On Wed, 20 May 2009 11:22:51 +0100, "Kurt Sloane" <m...@privacy.net>
wrote Re Ah, Cardiff, City of Culture:

Wow! No wonder the Muslims are kicking our ass.

Chris H

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May 20, 2009, 7:58:20 AM5/20/09
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In message <4a13e...@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com>, PDM <pdcm99@[dele
tethisbit].invalid> writes

Perhaps there should be a law to say that under 18 black people should
not drink and carry illegal guns?

Chris H

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May 20, 2009, 9:09:19 AM5/20/09
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In message <0es715hd0r2suoqnk...@4ax.com>, Caesar Romano
<Sp...@uce.gov> writes

Who is "our"?

Savageduck

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May 20, 2009, 9:20:28 AM5/20/09
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OK!
This being Wales, the question comes to mind regarding recent UK street
photography, sensitive souls and the Law;
"Why don't all the UK police departments get their training on
photography rights, in Cardiff?"

There haven't been any headlines regarding the arrest and prosecution
of photographers in that City.
That makes it appear to be an island of common sense and photographic
freedom in the UK, given all the other silly stories.

The other local recreational activities just beg to be recorded for
posterity and cultural history. I assume this was the aftermath of the
district Eistedford?
--
Regards,
Savageduck

Caesar Romano

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May 20, 2009, 1:22:42 PM5/20/09
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On Wed, 20 May 2009 14:09:19 +0100, Chris H <ch...@phaedsys.org> wrote
Re Re: Ah, Cardiff, City of Culture:

>In message <0es715hd0r2suoqnk...@4ax.com>, Caesar Romano
><Sp...@uce.gov> writes
>>On Wed, 20 May 2009 11:22:51 +0100, "Kurt Sloane" <m...@privacy.net>
>>wrote Re Ah, Cardiff, City of Culture:
>>
>>>Ah, Cardiff, City of Culture:
>>>http://www.flickr.com/photos/maciejdakowicz/3055945632/
>>>http://www.flickr.com/photos/maciejdakowicz/2880091916/
>>>http://www.flickr.com/photos/maciejdakowicz/2065913541/
>>>http://www.flickr.com/photos/maciejdakowicz/86142813/
>>>http://www.flickr.com/photos/maciejdakowicz/290702374/
>>>http://www.flickr.com/photos/maciejdakowicz/762244345/
>>>
>>>Although the media across the world have picked up on these photos, the
>>>crazy thing is that this is quite a "normal" sight in most major towns and
>>>cities in the UK on a Friday and Saturday night.
>>
>>Wow! No wonder the Muslims are kicking our ass.
>
>Who is "our"?

The "West".

Grimly Curmudgeon

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May 20, 2009, 5:18:25 PM5/20/09
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We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember Savageduck
<savageduck1{REMOVESPAM}@me.com> saying something like:

>I assume this was the aftermath of the
>district Eistedford?

The sheep got away... boyo.

Chris H

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May 20, 2009, 6:51:51 PM5/20/09
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In message <k2f815ppe4rrp07fn...@4ax.com>, Caesar Romano

<Sp...@uce.gov> writes
>On Wed, 20 May 2009 14:09:19 +0100, Chris H <ch...@phaedsys.org> wrote
>Re Re: Ah, Cardiff, City of Culture:
>
>>In message <0es715hd0r2suoqnk...@4ax.com>, Caesar Romano
>><Sp...@uce.gov> writes
>>>On Wed, 20 May 2009 11:22:51 +0100, "Kurt Sloane" <m...@privacy.net>
>>>wrote Re Ah, Cardiff, City of Culture:
>>>
>>>>Ah, Cardiff, City of Culture:
>>>>http://www.flickr.com/photos/maciejdakowicz/3055945632/
>>>>http://www.flickr.com/photos/maciejdakowicz/2880091916/
>>>>http://www.flickr.com/photos/maciejdakowicz/2065913541/
>>>>http://www.flickr.com/photos/maciejdakowicz/86142813/
>>>>http://www.flickr.com/photos/maciejdakowicz/290702374/
>>>>http://www.flickr.com/photos/maciejdakowicz/762244345/
>>>>
>>>>Although the media across the world have picked up on these photos, the
>>>>crazy thing is that this is quite a "normal" sight in most major towns and
>>>>cities in the UK on a Friday and Saturday night.
>>>
>>>Wow! No wonder the Muslims are kicking our ass.
>>
>>Who is "our"?
>
>The "West".

Who specifically are you calling "the west"

France is not having a problem.
Germany is not having a problem
Not Canada or Mexico
Spain seems to be at peace with Islam.

Paul Bartram

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May 21, 2009, 1:46:27 AM5/21/09
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That title, for whatever reason, immediately made me think of the classic
Peter Sellers sketch "Bal-ham, Gateway to the South". Has the same ring to
it!

Paul


PDM

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May 21, 2009, 4:56:13 AM5/21/09
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"Chris H" <ch...@phaedsys.org> wrote in message
news:5QvIiuL$DAFK...@phaedsys.demon.co.uk...

> In message <0es715hd0r2suoqnk...@4ax.com>, Caesar Romano
> <Sp...@uce.gov> writes
>>On Wed, 20 May 2009 11:22:51 +0100, "Kurt Sloane" <m...@privacy.net>
>>wrote Re Ah, Cardiff, City of Culture:
>>
>>>Ah, Cardiff, City of Culture:
>>>http://www.flickr.com/photos/maciejdakowicz/3055945632/
>>>http://www.flickr.com/photos/maciejdakowicz/2880091916/
>>>http://www.flickr.com/photos/maciejdakowicz/2065913541/
>>>http://www.flickr.com/photos/maciejdakowicz/86142813/
>>>http://www.flickr.com/photos/maciejdakowicz/290702374/
>>>http://www.flickr.com/photos/maciejdakowicz/762244345/
>>>
>>>Although the media across the world have picked up on these photos, the
>>>crazy thing is that this is quite a "normal" sight in most major towns
>>>and
>>>cities in the UK on a Friday and Saturday night.
>>
>>Wow! No wonder the Muslims are kicking our ass.
>
Muslims are not kicking our ass. It's only a relatively few extremists. Most
Muslims are peace loving people who just want to get on with their lives
just like the rest of us. And I'm not a Muslim just in case you ask.
PDM


Chris H

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May 21, 2009, 5:34:11 AM5/21/09
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In message <4a151...@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com>, PDM <pdcm99@[dele
tethisbit].invalid> writes
>

When I asked "whose ass" he said "the west" by which he appears to mean
one of the three countries in N. American and one country out of about
40 in Europe. Hardly "the west"

whisky-dave

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May 21, 2009, 8:25:24 AM5/21/09
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"PDM" <pdcm99[deletethisbit]@tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message
news:4a13e...@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com...

True but that could be a legacy thing afterall black people especially
youths
have almost be given to go ahead to do what they want, they know the police
will avoid them whenever possible due to the fear of being called racist.
Of course the police were and might still be racist to some extent .

>
>


whisky-dave

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May 21, 2009, 8:35:31 AM5/21/09
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"Chris H" <ch...@phaedsys.org> wrote in message
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> In message <k2f815ppe4rrp07fn...@4ax.com>, Caesar Romano
> <Sp...@uce.gov> writes
>>On Wed, 20 May 2009 14:09:19 +0100, Chris H <ch...@phaedsys.org> wrote
>>Re Re: Ah, Cardiff, City of Culture:
>>
>>>In message <0es715hd0r2suoqnk...@4ax.com>, Caesar Romano
>>><Sp...@uce.gov> writes
>>>>On Wed, 20 May 2009 11:22:51 +0100, "Kurt Sloane" <m...@privacy.net>
>>>>wrote Re Ah, Cardiff, City of Culture:
>>>>
>>>>>Ah, Cardiff, City of Culture:
>>>>>http://www.flickr.com/photos/maciejdakowicz/3055945632/
>>>>>http://www.flickr.com/photos/maciejdakowicz/2880091916/
>>>>>http://www.flickr.com/photos/maciejdakowicz/2065913541/
>>>>>http://www.flickr.com/photos/maciejdakowicz/86142813/
>>>>>http://www.flickr.com/photos/maciejdakowicz/290702374/
>>>>>http://www.flickr.com/photos/maciejdakowicz/762244345/
>>>>>
>>>>>Although the media across the world have picked up on these photos, the
>>>>>crazy thing is that this is quite a "normal" sight in most major towns
>>>>>and
>>>>>cities in the UK on a Friday and Saturday night.
>>>>
>>>>Wow! No wonder the Muslims are kicking our ass.
>>>
>>>Who is "our"?
>>
>>The "West".
>
> Who specifically are you calling "the west"
>
> France is not having a problem.

I thought it was having problems with Algerians and 'Muslims'
in fact weren't they thinking of banning the 'Muslim outfits'

Not sure of the others below but the USA seems to have
problems with Mexicans otherwise they wouldn't need boarder controls.

whisky-dave

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May 21, 2009, 8:46:11 AM5/21/09
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"Savageduck" <savageduck1{REMOVESPAM}@me.com> wrote in message
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> There haven't been any headlines regarding the arrest and prosecution of
> photographers in that City.
> That makes it appear to be an island of common sense and photographic
> freedom in the UK, given all the other silly stories.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/weird-world/2008/12/01/the-world-s-worst-father-christmases-thirteen-truly-bad-santas-115875-20938472/


John McWilliams

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May 21, 2009, 9:16:20 AM5/21/09
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whisky-dave wrote:
> "Chris H" <ch...@phaedsys.org> wrote in message
> news:jbB+AREH...@phaedsys.demon.co.uk...

>> Who specifically are you calling "the west"


>>
>> France is not having a problem.
>
> I thought it was having problems with Algerians and 'Muslims'
> in fact weren't they thinking of banning the 'Muslim outfits'
>
> Not sure of the others below but the USA seems to have
> problems with Mexicans otherwise they wouldn't need boarder controls.

The problems with boarders in general is they tend to stay a lot more
than a few nights or months. Then they want gov't handouts.

Border controls are in place for every civilized nation I can think of,
and some that aren't so civil.

--
john mcwilliams

Chris H

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May 21, 2009, 9:29:06 AM5/21/09
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In message <gv3hul$kas$1@qmul>, whisky-dave <whisky-
da...@final.front.ear> writes

And Christian crosses France is secular with a vengeance.

France had had problems with North Africans ever since it invaded N
Africa centuries ago Let that be a lesson to countries that invade other
countries.

>Not sure of the others below but the USA seems to have
>problems with Mexicans otherwise they wouldn't need boarder controls.

Mexican are not Muslims but generally Roman Catholic Christians

Savageduck

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May 21, 2009, 9:53:14 AM5/21/09
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Who
>
would have thought the Santa Union would have had the funding for an
office Xmas party???
The Mythbusters strike again!

The seasonal bane of the Western World get their just deserts!!
Just imagine the reindeer dropping clean up in the parking lot/garage!!
:-)


--
Regards,
Savageduck

MB

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May 22, 2009, 5:42:05 AM5/22/09
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"Roger Blackwell" <r.blac...@nospamhomecall.co.uk> wrote in message
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What struck me about the pictures was that you regularly read of litter
wardens or Police Canteen Support Officers fining people for dropping a
crisp or a crumb, it can even be that they think someone dropped something
without any actual evidence. They usually seem to target people like young
mothers who are not likely to react violently. I wondered why they are not
out preventing real examples of littering as can be seen in these pictures.


Pete Stavrakoglou

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"Chris H" <ch...@phaedsys.org> wrote in message
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> In message <4a13e8d1$1...@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com>, Roger Blackwell
> <r.blac...@nospamhomecall.co.uk> writes
>>
>>"Kurt Sloane" <m...@privacy.net> wrote in message
>>news:vPKdnWgfCb3VR47X...@pipex.net...
>>> Ah, Cardiff, City of Culture:
>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/maciejdakowicz/3055945632/
>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/maciejdakowicz/2880091916/
>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/maciejdakowicz/2065913541/
>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/maciejdakowicz/86142813/
>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/maciejdakowicz/290702374/
>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/maciejdakowicz/762244345/
>>>
>>> Although the media across the world have picked up on these photos, the
>>> crazy thing is that this is quite a "normal" sight in most major towns
>>> and
>>> cities in the UK on a Friday and Saturday night.
>>
>>Well at least people don't get shot as they lay there which would happen
>>in
>>some parts of the world. Life in the UK has its problems and its
>>alienated
>>youth but I would still rather live here than in a country that bans
>>alcohol.
>
> The US got it back I think but still bans alcohol for under 21 in most
> places I thought. Though you are more likely to be shot in US cities
> than UK ones at the moment but it is getting touch and go these days.

You're also more likely to be able to shoot back in the USA.


Allen

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Jul 15, 2009, 4:50:59 PM7/15/09
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Chris H wrote:
> In message <4a13e8d1$1...@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com>, Roger Blackwell
> <r.blac...@nospamhomecall.co.uk> writes
>> "Kurt Sloane" <m...@privacy.net> wrote in message
>> news:vPKdnWgfCb3VR47X...@pipex.net...
>>> Ah, Cardiff, City of Culture:
>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/maciejdakowicz/3055945632/
>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/maciejdakowicz/2880091916/
>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/maciejdakowicz/2065913541/
>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/maciejdakowicz/86142813/
>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/maciejdakowicz/290702374/
>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/maciejdakowicz/762244345/
>>>
>>> Although the media across the world have picked up on these photos, the
>>> crazy thing is that this is quite a "normal" sight in most major towns and
>>> cities in the UK on a Friday and Saturday night.
>> Well at least people don't get shot as they lay there which would happen in
>> some parts of the world. Life in the UK has its problems and its alienated
>> youth but I would still rather live here than in a country that bans
>> alcohol.
>
> The US got it back I think but still bans alcohol for under 21 in most
> places I thought. Though you are more likely to be shot in US cities
> than UK ones at the moment but it is getting touch and go these days.
>
>
Drinking age varies by state. Most use 18, as that is also the minimum
age for voting. Some, including Texas, lowered it to 18 and then raised
it back to 21, mainly because of pressure from school organizations.
Seems that older students in the public schools might have a beer or two
at lunch--horrors!

Unfortunately, you are right about the odds of being shot are too high here.
Allen

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