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Stephen Drummonds

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May 12, 2009, 5:53:39 PM5/12/09
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I am wanting to try the Raw format on my camera. Can someone please tell
me what raw conversion program that I need to start with? Thanks for any
suggestions
Steve


Art2U

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May 12, 2009, 6:12:31 PM5/12/09
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Raw Therapee
http://www.rawtherapee.com/

Raw Therapee is a free RAW converter and digital photo processing software.

Main features :
* Selectable high performance demosaicing algorithms (EAHD and HPHD and
VNG-4).
* Using DCRaw 8.82/1.398 for decoding RAW images
* Image post processing in 16 bit / channel mode

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Eric Stevens

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May 12, 2009, 6:18:42 PM5/12/09
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On Tue, 12 May 2009 16:53:39 -0500, "Stephen Drummonds"
<step...@centurytel.net> wrote:

There is no such thing as a standard RAW. Each camera is different.

What is your camera.

Eric Stevens

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May 12, 2009, 6:21:57 PM5/12/09
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In article <XOGdnU35WZ1mcpTX...@centurytel.net>, Stephen
Drummonds <step...@centurytel.net> wrote:

start with the software that came with the camera.

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May 12, 2009, 8:54:58 PM5/12/09
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On May 12, 2:53 pm, "Stephen Drummonds" <stephe...@centurytel.net>
wrote:

The most faithful RAW converter will be that which comes from your
camera's manufacturer. Others will come close, but are usually
products of reverse-engineering of your camera's RAW format and will
invariably leave settings out of the mix. For example, I shoot Nikon,
so I use their free ViewNX. Adobe's Camera RAW (ACR) in combination
with Photoshop Elements 7 worked okay, but only brought in the White
Balance settings. Other settings, like the Picture mode/control in the
camera are ignored. True, you can always recover or set your own in
post-processing, but the closest interpreter to what your camera
actually captured still remains that which the manufacturer provides,
leaving a lot less room for guessing.

http://esfotoclix.com

ray

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May 12, 2009, 10:32:45 PM5/12/09
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I use ufraw. It's free and it's 'current'.

Neil Ellwood

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May 13, 2009, 7:24:00 AM5/13/09
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On Tue, 12 May 2009 16:53:39 -0500, Stephen Drummonds wrote:

DCraw - UFraw - RawStudio among others.

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Floyd L. Davidson

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May 13, 2009, 8:52:00 AM5/13/09
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Neil Ellwood <cral.el...@btopenworld.com> wrote:
>On Tue, 12 May 2009 16:53:39 -0500, Stephen Drummonds wrote:
>
>> I am wanting to try the Raw format on my camera. Can someone please
>> tell me what raw conversion program that I need to start with? Thanks
>> for any suggestions
>> Steve
>
>DCraw - UFraw - RawStudio among others.

DCraw is not really something a person new to processing
camera raw data might want try. It certainly has its
uses, but typically it is not typically used as a
general purpose raw converter.

UFraw and RawStudio both use the code from DCraw and add
a GUI interface, along with all the other necessary
fluff that is required for a production program (color
management, etc. etc.).

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Chris H

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May 13, 2009, 9:09:18 AM5/13/09
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In message <17593599-0fe1-4aec...@w31g2000prd.googlegroup
s.com>, eNo <grande...@gmail.com> writes

>On May 12, 2:53�pm, "Stephen Drummonds" <stephe...@centurytel.net>
>wrote:
>> �I am wanting to try the Raw format on my camera. �Can someone please tell
>> me what raw conversion program that I need to start with? � Thanks for any
>> suggestions
>> Steve
>
>The most faithful RAW converter will be that which comes from your
>camera's manufacturer. Others will come close, but are usually
>products of reverse-engineering of your camera's RAW format and will
>invariably leave settings out of the mix.

Not if it is a Nikon as their RAW software SDK is freely available.


1 Use the SW that came with the camera.

2 What is your Cameras and why do you want to shoot RAW?


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Alfred Molon

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May 13, 2009, 4:28:56 PM5/13/09
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In article <76upqcF1...@mid.individual.net>, ray says...

> I use ufraw. It's free and it's 'current'.

ufraw has a horrible user interface. The programmers should be jailed.
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Floyd L. Davidson

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May 13, 2009, 10:25:25 PM5/13/09
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Alfred Molon <alfred...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>In article <76upqcF1...@mid.individual.net>, ray says...
>
>> I use ufraw. It's free and it's 'current'.
>
>ufraw has a horrible user interface. The programmers should be jailed.

UFRaw has a fabulous user interface.

I don't like Udi's idea of icons, but otherwise it's great.

ray

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May 13, 2009, 11:06:59 PM5/13/09
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On Wed, 13 May 2009 22:28:56 +0200, Alfred Molon wrote:

> In article <76upqcF1...@mid.individual.net>, ray says...
>
>> I use ufraw. It's free and it's 'current'.
>
> ufraw has a horrible user interface. The programmers should be jailed.

So if you don't like it, don't use it. I simply stated that it is what I
use.

bugbear

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May 14, 2009, 8:40:32 AM5/14/09
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Do you have any pointers to "how to" guides.

I can use the controls, and they work "as described".

But I don't know enough to use them subtly "in combination"
to get the best results.

BugBear

Al Dykes

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May 14, 2009, 9:18:21 AM5/14/09
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In article <luGdnTho14bdjJHX...@brightview.co.uk>,


There are a bunch of books available for Adobe Camera Raw
(Photoshop). They should give you an idea of what can be done in anty
RAW converter. Look in a big mall bookstore, you don;t have to buy
one.


Basically;

You can "select" lighting, (shade, incadensent, direct sun, etc)
You can set the histogram range over a wider range. This means that you
have a wider effective dynamic range

On some you can clip

All of the above can be done over a wider range and with less "damage"
compared to what would happen if you tried it in jpg.

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eNo

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May 14, 2009, 11:53:15 PM5/14/09
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On May 13, 6:09 am, Chris H <ch...@phaedsys.org> wrote:
> In message <17593599-0fe1-4aec-9a6e-c86da5946...@w31g2000prd.googlegroup
> s.com>, eNo <grandepat...@gmail.com> writes

>
> >On May 12, 2:53 pm, "Stephen Drummonds" <stephe...@centurytel.net>
> >wrote:
> >>  I am wanting to try the Raw format on my camera.  Can someone please tell
> >> me what raw conversion program that I need to start with?   Thanks for any
> >> suggestions
> >> Steve
>
> >The most faithful RAW converter will be that which comes from your
> >camera's manufacturer. Others will come close, but are usually
> >products of reverse-engineering of your camera's RAW format and will
> >invariably leave settings out of the mix.
>
> Not if it is a Nikon as their RAW software SDK is freely available.

And yet, somehow Adobe Camera RAW doesn't bring in Nikon's picture
control. Maybe it's because regardless of the SDK being out there,
Nikon is the one with the most motivation to ensure its camera's
features are exploited.


>
> 1 Use the SW that came with the camera.

Exactomundo.

eNo
http://esfotoclix.com

Bob Larter

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May 18, 2009, 3:48:55 AM5/18/09
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Stephen Drummonds wrote:
> I am wanting to try the Raw format on my camera.

Which camera?

> Can someone please tell
> me what raw conversion program that I need to start with?

Until they got bought out by %$#@!#$@! Adobe, I would've recommended the
free version of RawShooter.
What sort of computer/OS are you running, & what's your budget like?

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May 18, 2009, 3:56:31 AM5/18/09
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Art2U wrote:
> On Tue, 12 May 2009 16:53:39 -0500, Stephen Drummonds wrote:
>
>> I am wanting to try the Raw format on my camera. Can someone please tell
>> me what raw conversion program that I need to start with? Thanks for any
>> suggestions
>> Steve
>
> Raw Therapee
> http://www.rawtherapee.com/
>
> Raw Therapee is a free RAW converter and digital photo processing software.
>
> Main features :
> * Selectable high performance demosaicing algorithms (EAHD and HPHD and
> VNG-4).
> * Using DCRaw 8.82/1.398 for decoding RAW images
> * Image post processing in 16 bit / channel mode

Damn, when I saw that it was multi-platform (Windows+Linux), I thought
it'd be open-source as well, but no such luck.

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