jeffrey dach
I do hope you mean as a guest attending the wedding, and taking some
snapshots..
It is totally unsuited for Professional or even Semi Professional
Photographs.
It can hardly be described as the "best" for anything, never mind Weddings.
Roy G
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>> For wedding photography I have found the Fuji V10 . . .
> . . .
>
> I do hope you mean as a guest attending the wedding, and taking some
> snapshots..
>
> It is totally unsuited for Professional or even Semi Professional
> Photographs.
>
> It can hardly be described as the "best" for anything, never mind Weddings.
Whoever hired kinga has now added "keyboard" (jeffrey dach) to his
stable of overly obvious Fuji shills.
The low light capabilities of the Fuji V10 and the newer F30 are
essential for the non-pro work which involves working without flash and
getting spontaneous snapshots. I use the material for acrylic
paintings, and the edited photos can be presented on a CD before the
pro work and has a more of a spontaneous look and feel. The resulting
acrylic paintings are greatly appreciated as well. Will post them on a
web site some day.
I previously used a NIKON D70 with a sweet Nikon 28-105 lens (this
lens has had some rough treatment with a few bumps). Probably should
replace it with a good dedicated digital lens.
The advantage of the Fuji F30 has the proprietary CCD chip which can go
3200 ASA. I have also used the Nikon S3 which is on the shelf. The S3
does great outdoor daylight landscapes and indoor flash.
One thing noticeable comparing the S3 and the V10 has to do with the
artistic quality of the "noise" seen with digital review and
enlargement. The Nikon (S3 and D70) noise is more aesthetically
pleasing or artistic than the V10 noise. If you look at the pixels
blown up they sort of look like a pointillism or Seurat painting with
little green and red dots. The Nikon looks like a Seurat. The Fuji
looks artifical like made by a computer. Not really sure what this
means, but it could be one of many reasons why people are crazy about
their Nikons. No financial connection to NIKON or FUJI except when I
say goodbye to the green sent to B and H. ignore line(alpha beta daoch
dach drdach jeff dach jeffrey sigma delta)
Any suggestions ?
keyboard
And what a fool I was for using Hasselblads for 20+ years.
On 12/24/06 12:38 PM, in article 241220061038257147%r...@nospam.techline.com,
"Randall Ainsworth" <r...@nospam.techline.com> wrote:
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Thanks I'll try it. Why didnt I think of that?
keyboard
Everybody is entitled to their opinions, but I am baffled by the cult of the
F30 low light photos. I find I can't bear to look at any pictures I took with
my F30 in any ISO over 400. The pictures are clearly over-processed and the
noise reduction sands away any details and produces water color paintings. I
bought the F30 due to hearing everybody talk about it to take no-flash pictures
when I didn't want to carry the E-1 and lenses, and now I wish I had saved my
money. Using the F30 with flash produces ok pictures, but that's not what I
got it for.
--
Michael Meissner
email: mrm...@the-meissners.org
http://www.the-meissners.org
Roy G
> Because, (if your first posting is anything to go by), you are none too
> bright.
>
> Roy G
You beat him at being and ignorant jerk though :)
--
Would thou choose to meet a rat eating dragon, or
a dragon, eating rat? The answer of: I am somewhere
in the middle. "Me who is part taoist and part Christian".
Despite what the naysayers will tell people, the F30 *is* an impressive
little camera.
But that's pretty much exactly what it is. An impressive LITTLE camera.
Pretty amazing when people make claims that it's got a better sensor than a
decent prosumer camera, or takes better photos. Who knows, the sensor could
be better, but overall the camera is severely limited by the quality of the
lens (not uncommon with small cameras), and I have a feeling that same
sensor and processing with a better lens would start to show off some
serious issues.
But on the plus side, it's small, it sets up fast, focuses well, has great
battery life and it's fun to use. I've got an XT with 17-85 and 70-200F4 L
glass, and presently for point & shoot stuff an F10 and F30 (had to get the
F30 when the F10 had to go in for repair... smudges that showed up on
photos). Prior to the F10 & 30 my point-and-shoot units were a Fuji E510
(dreadful camera, but thought the 28mm equiv lens would be good for
Hawaii... not) and a bunch of Olympus (220, 340L, 450Z, 5050, D40). The 5050
had an uncanny ability to always "get the shot." Great camera, until my
daughter borrowed it for a trip to Disneyland and lost it. The D40 wasn't a
bad camera back in the day, and with a bit of work you could get nice photos
from it. The 450Z was probably the best small camera (that I used) back in
the day for reliably getting the shot. But I do admit that the F10 & F30s
are more capable than all but the 5050 (for point & shoot work).
But there's simply no comparison between the abilities of the XT and the F10
& F30. Dynamic range is vastly superior on the XT, and there's a lot more
than just pixel count that makes a difference when you go to a larger print.
Seems like some pixels "scale" better than others when you upsize them, and
that's where the XT really shines. On the F10 or F30, you go pixel peeping
and see more and more reasons why you don't want to push too far. On the XT,
you see more and more of the captured image, not processed pixels.
--Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReactionBicycles.com
"Michael Meissner" <mrm...@the-meissners.org> wrote in message
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Do you suppose a violin would get me to ISO6400?
Roy's not ignorant...
I was trying to figure out a nice way to say what Roy said, though, and
failed. So, unlike Roy, I kept my mouth shut, or more properly, my keyboard
untyped upon...
No I didn't.
I may be a little bit short tempered and be a bit sharp with morons, who
smart mouth people who do know what they are talking about, but I am not
ignorant.
Roy G
Gol, Randall. Do you enjoy playing straight man? :-)
> For wedding photography I have found the Fuji V10 excellent because of
> low light capability and ASA 1600 rating.
Shoot a lot of weddings, do ya?
Only the ones I am invited to. Lately its been quite a few, though.
A small camera makes it easier to store in a jacket pocket,
and haev available for the opportune moment.
The low light capability allows non-flash work which
makes the photographer invisible and mostly unnoticed.
ignore line (dash doch dach drdach jeff jeffrey)
keyboard
> Despite what the naysayers will tell people, the F30 *is* an impressive
> little camera.
>
> But that's pretty much exactly what it is. An impressive LITTLE camera.
> Pretty amazing when people make claims that it's got a better sensor than a
> decent prosumer camera, or takes better photos. Who knows, the sensor could
> be better, but overall the camera is severely limited by the quality of the
> lens (not uncommon with small cameras), and I have a feeling that same
> sensor and processing with a better lens would start to show off some
> serious issues.
Well a better lens is probably a bigger lens, which means it isn't a pocketable
camera.
My main complaint isn't the sensor or the lens, but more that the noise
reduction is so heavy handed. I realize the issues with the form factor limits
the quality of the picture, but the NR smearing the details makes it unusable
at high ISO's. I just don't get all of the people who rave about the high
ISO's on the camera. Do they actually look at the pictures on anything but the
camera's LCD screen?
I would rather have an option that supressed all NR in the camera, and let me
do it afterwards in post processing. I could also live with pixel binning
where you use multple real pixels to average out the noise to get you a smaller
megapixel image that is less noisy. However, I realize most people who buy it
aren't big post processors, and seem to buy into the myth that more megapixels
gives you better pictures.
Yes, it could be.
And, by some strange coincidence, is. :-)
But, IMO, "viola" beats "wallah".
--
Bill Funk
replace "g" with "a"
> keyboard
>
Pity you did not apply that same philosophy to thos NG.
Roy G
Damn spell check, it doesn't know when I mean something other than what I
type! ;-)
I have never seen a group so flame-happy...except for maybe one of the
fashion boards.