I need reasons to not buy a 20D
PBody
stunts. This is a pretty hard subject since the bike might be a couple
hundred yards away one second then a couple feet in fron of you the next.
Anyway I would guess 50% of the pictures with the 8800 where blurry and the
zoom was to slow to keep up with the action. Recycle time for taking
pictures was also very horrible. A friend of mine had a 20D he let me shoot
a little bit. That camera was a pleasure to shoot with. The manual zoom was
fast enough to zoom ou tas teh bike was coming towards me and then back in
as it went away. It seemed every picture was in focus and I never noticed
the recycle time being slow so that I had to wait on the camera. I really
don't have the money right now to buy this camera so I need reasons not to
get it. Is there a newer camera coming out that will be as fast and in the
same price range? I have a bunch of 1 gig compact flash cards I can borrow
from work however they are only single speed cards. How much faster am I
going to be able to shoot with faster cards?
Dave R knows who
"PBody" <fieroaut...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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If price is a big concern you might want to look for a used DSLR. Maybe a
used Rebel. Locally there are advertisements today for $450-$600, with the
kit lens. Like this one
http://www.craigslist.org/eby/for/101789168.html
Måns Rullgård
The Canon 350D (Digital Rebel XT in the US, something else in Japan)
is half the price of a 20D, and almost as fast. It does 3 fps, the
20D does 5 fps. Picture quality is more or less the same.
As for card speeds, the 350D will write at something close to 10MB/s.
The slow/cheap cards are not as fast as the camera, and the fastest
cards are faster than the camera needs. That said, card speeds only
become important if you shoot bursts of more than 10 pictures or so
without pausing.
--
Måns Rullgård
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Charles Schuler
The Rebel XT (or 350D) is a very close competitor.
Z
the extra cost with the 20D -
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Rich
The inability to read lens info unless the contacts are super clean?
No spot metering?
No sensor cleaning?
Other than that, it's a nice camera.
Dirty Harry
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I think it's closer to 5 megs a sec, but still good.
Frank ess
Z wrote:
> I looked at both - and ended up taking the rebel xt home - couldn't
> justify the extra cost with the 20D -
>
Reasons not to buy the 20D? As opposed to what?
Sorry, I can't help you. 20D seems to me to be the best compromise
among capability, physical presence, and cost.
I have a RebXT also, and wish I'd saved up for another month to get a
second 20D. Not that there is a big difference in output, but the 20D
seems to me to make it all easier.
--
Frank ess
Alex
a joy to use...and speed is so much more noticeable that my non-SLR digital
In terms of CF cards, this is the best comparison of cards using a 350D and
gives a useful view of the write speed capability if them. I assume the 20D
would manage marginally greater write speeds if it can do 5 rather than 3
burst.
http://www.robgalbraith.com/bins/multi_page.asp?cid=6007-7699
Alex
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Alex
just noticed there is also a link to a similar test for the 20D on another
page.
Alex
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The 20D's only real flaw is the lack of spot metering. So if you need
spot metering, then don't get it.
Don't base your buying decision on the 1x CF cards you have. You'll want
at least 50x cards. A 2GB 50x card is $100.
Alex
350D?
Alex
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Forget about the 8800 and get a D50 w/ the 2 lens setup for $950+/-
The D50 is an incredible performer for the price!
I love my 5700 and still use it as a backup.
Mark˛
Maybe Skip will sell you one of his...
-He just upgraded two 20Ds with 5Ds...
Mark˛
Good GRAVY!
Who's looking at the *camera* in that set of...well...pictures??
:)
Captain Blammo
>
> Good GRAVY!
> Who's looking at the *camera* in that set of...well...pictures??
> :)
We'll never know now; the post's been deleted :-(
CB
Dave R knows who
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Still there as far as I can tell
Dave R knows who
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Mark˛
Never fear...
My browser was still open, so here's a re-post (this was one of four
pictures...the other three being various shots of the 300D):
http://www.pbase.com/markuson/image/50370779/original
What camera again??
:)
Skip M
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Skip Middleton
http://www.shadowcatcherimagery.com
Skip M
from shooting the Bride and Groom during the ceremony to hauling ass up to
the top of a steeple to shoot the couple's recessional through an "iron
arch" (sword arch) made up of Civil War recreationists. Leaving the 20D up
on the tripod in the steeple with the 100-400, so I don't have to fumble
with mounting a camera on the lens, or mounting a lens/camera combo on the
'pod.
BH
Bubba burger!
Cracks me up everytime I see it.
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Mark˛
Noooo... Ya think?
:)
Mark˛
> http://www.pbase.com/markuson/image/37393891
>
> Bubba burger!
>
> Cracks me up everytime I see it.
I forgot that photo was still up.
:)
I do love my dogs...
-Bubba and Beans (his sister)
Mark˛
Ya, I wouldn't sell them either...
Too handy to have around, and you'd get too little for them anyway.
I'll be keeping my 10D when I eventually move to FF. If money wasn't tight,
I'd be fiddling with one as we speak. :(
Mark˛
> On Thu, 06 Oct 2005 21:20:13 GMT
> "PBody" <fieroaut...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Reasons to NOT get a KIA 20D ;-)
>
> Pesky sensor filter dust.
>
> Cost of camera + 70-200mm f2.8L IS lens + monopod + Novoflex
> Clasicball + all other related equipment and cases might not turn you
> into superman and will set you back about $5k. And that's BEFORE you
> catch the lensitis virus and discover the 6 lenses you have still do
> not cover all your desired needs.
>
> On the other hand, I have a photograph of a motorcycle, 60 feet in the
> air, over the cement streets of Long Beach CA, UPSIDE DOWN, rider
> casually sitting on the seat, without a net, that could not have been
> captured with a lesser system. My regret on reviewing that evening's
> photos was that I didn't have a 1Ds MarkII...
>
> Then on the down side, you will be building a kick-rear computer
> system to run CS2 properly (and in my case, also handle Logic Pro
> loaded with goodies).
All too true...
Yipe!
--Sooooo true indeed.
Chris Brown
Rich <no...@none.com> wrote:
>The inability to read lens info unless the contacts are super clean?
Have you really had a problem with this? I think it happened to me *once*
from 4 Canon DSLRs, and was rectified by wiping the contacts with my sleeve.
ASAAR
> As for card speeds, the 350D will write at something close to 10MB/s.
> The slow/cheap cards are not as fast as the camera, and the fastest
> cards are faster than the camera needs. That said, card speeds only
> become important if you shoot bursts of more than 10 pictures or so
> without pausing.
If one never shoot bursts, the OP's cards are still far too slow if
they really are 1x speed (which I doubt - does any company make 1GB
cards that are only 1x?). If used to take 2.7mb JPG files, 1x
(150kb/sec) would result in delays of about 18 seconds to sequence
from one picture to the next on the LCD, and a 10 shot burst would
take 3 minutes to write to the card.
BJ in Texas
|| I have a Nikon 8800 and was shooting pictures of
|| motorcycles doing stunts. This is a pretty hard subject since
|| the bike might be a couple hundred yards away one second then
|| a couple feet in fron of you the next. Anyway I would guess
|| 50% of the pictures with the 8800 where blurry and the zoom
|| was to slow to keep up with the action. Recycle time for
|| taking pictures was also very horrible. A friend of mine had
|| a 20D he let me shoot a little bit. That camera was a
|| pleasure to shoot with. The manual zoom was fast enough to
|| zoom ou tas teh bike was coming towards me and then back in
|| as it went away. It seemed every picture was in focus and I
|| never noticed the recycle time being slow so that I had to
|| wait on the camera. I really don't have the money right now
|| to buy this camera so I need reasons not to get it. Is there
|| a newer camera coming out that will be as fast and in the
|| same price range? I have a bunch of 1 gig compact flash cards
|| I can borrow from work however they are only single speed
|| cards. How much faster am I going to be able to shoot with
|| faster cards?
5D?
--
"Nobody can make you feel inferior without your permission." --
Eleanor Roosevelt
Skip M
> Skip M wrote:
>> "Mark˛" <mjmorgan(lowest even number here)@cox..net> wrote in message
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>>>
>>> Maybe Skip will sell you one of his...
>>> -He just upgraded two 20Ds with 5Ds...
>>>
>> nah, keeping them as backup, and special use cameras. Saturday, I
>> have go from shooting the Bride and Groom during the ceremony to
>> hauling ass up to the top of a steeple to shoot the couple's
>> recessional through an "iron arch" (sword arch) made up of Civil War
>> recreationists. Leaving the 20D up on the tripod in the steeple with
>> the 100-400, so I don't have to fumble with mounting a camera on the
>> lens, or mounting a lens/camera combo on the 'pod.
>
> Ya, I wouldn't sell them either...
> Too handy to have around, and you'd get too little for them anyway.
> I'll be keeping my 10D when I eventually move to FF. If money wasn't
> tight, I'd be fiddling with one as we speak. :(
>
The 5D seems to be all I asked for. I'll know more after this weekend, two
weddings and two engagement shoots in four days...
Dave R knows who
"Mark˛" <mjmorgan(lowest even number here)@cox..net> wrote in message
She had to pay for those so she sold her camera
Mark˛
Same here, but I never even had to clean the contacts.
This has nothing to do with the 20D in particular.