Photoshop CS3 vs. Camera Raw
Netman
I want to buy earlier version of Photoshop and I cannot find answer on the
following question:
Will the newest Camera Raw plugin (5.6) run on Photoshop CS3?
Thank you in advance for help
netman
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> I want to buy earlier version of Photoshop and I cannot find answer on the
> following question:
>
> Will the newest Camera Raw plugin (5.6) run on Photoshop CS3?
it will not. cs3 uses camera raw 4.x.
did you not notice the cs4 requirement for camera raw 5.6 on adobe's
web site?
Netman
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Thank you for answer.
No, can you paste a link to these requirements?
John McWilliams
workable solution for you. It uses the equivalent of the latest ACR
plugin- it's built in in the case of LR.
If you care to outline what you want to do, several suggestions maybe
forthcoming.
--
john mcwilliams
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> >> Will the newest Camera Raw plugin (5.6) run on Photoshop CS3?
> >
> > it will not. cs3 uses camera raw 4.x.
> >
> > did you not notice the cs4 requirement for camera raw 5.6 on adobe's
> > web site?
>
> Thank you for answer.
>
> No, can you paste a link to these requirements?
<http://www.adobe.com/products/photoshop/cameraraw.html>
This powerful plug-in has been frequently updated to support more
cameras and include more features, and is available as part of Adobe
Photoshop CS4.
<http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/detail.jsp?ftpID=4621>
<http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/detail.jsp?ftpID=4622>
The Camera Raw 5.6 plug-in is not compatible with versions of Photoshop
earlier than Photoshop CS4.
SYSTEM REQUIREMENTS
See the system requirements for Adobe Creative Suite 4 software or
Photoshop CS4
Tim Conway
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The latest camera raw plugin will only work on PCS4. There is a work around
that is pretty easy. As outlined in this website:
http://www.barrypearson.co.uk/articles/dng/ps_cs.htm
you can use the latest DNG converter with an older camera raw compatible
with your version of Photoshop.
Search on Adobe's website for the correct versions of camera raw for each
version of photoshop.
Rock
Or you could get Photoline from www.pl32.net for far less than you'd pay
for any upgrade and plugins from Adobe. Photoline supports RAW file formats
that even Adobe doesn't support today. Plus you'll have an editor that does
more and does it better than Photoshop has ever been able to do. Adobe has
yet to even learn of the benefits of Lanczos resampling algorithms for all
rotations and resizings. You're still stuck with rudimentary bicubic in
Photoshop, leaving you with photo detail resolutions of one-half of what
you paid all that money for in camera gear to obtain in the first place.
What fools.
John McWilliams
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>
> Or you could get Photoline from www.pl32.net for far less than you'd pay
> for any upgrade and plugins from Adobe. Photoline supports RAW file formats
> that even Adobe doesn't support today.
wrong.
> Plus you'll have an editor that does
> more and does it better than Photoshop has ever been able to do. Adobe has
> yet to even learn of the benefits of Lanczos resampling algorithms for all
> rotations and resizings. You're still stuck with rudimentary bicubic in
> Photoshop, leaving you with photo detail resolutions of one-half of what
> you paid all that money for in camera gear to obtain in the first place.
> What fools.
nonsense.
ray
You might look at ufraw to do the conversion prior to importing to ps.
ufraw will also do basic changes to exposure, etc.
nospam
wrote:
> > I want to buy earlier version of Photoshop and I cannot find answer on
> > the following question:
> >
> > Will the newest Camera Raw plugin (5.6) run on Photoshop CS3?
>
> You might look at ufraw to do the conversion prior to importing to ps.
> ufraw will also do basic changes to exposure, etc.
camera raw does a *lot* more than 'basic changes' and he wants to use
photoshop, not something else. plus, it can be converted to dng for
free with adobe's dng converter, and processed in any recent version of
photoshop, as well as other apps.
ray
OK - so I'm not stopping him from using photoshop. And chances are pretty
good that ufraw will do most if not all of the changes he needs to make -
working from the raw data.
nospam
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> OK - so I'm not stopping him from using photoshop.
you're suggesting a completely incompatible solution.
> And chances are pretty
> good that ufraw will do most if not all of the changes he needs to make -
> working from the raw data.
maybe yes, maybe no. the point is that he wants to use camera raw and
photoshop.
ray
> In article <7pn0om...@mid.individual.net>, ray <r...@zianet.com>
> wrote:
>
>> OK - so I'm not stopping him from using photoshop.
>
> you're suggesting a completely incompatible solution.
Guess I'm rather dense - you'll have to explain to me how that solution
is any more incompatible than yours.
>
>> And chances are pretty
>> good that ufraw will do most if not all of the changes he needs to make
>> - working from the raw data.
>
> maybe yes, maybe no. the point is that he wants to use camera raw and
> photoshop.
And I guess the point is that he can't. So it's only going to take a free
download for the OP to decide if what I propose will work for him/her. I
don't see that ufraw and photoshop is any more or less 'incompatible'
than dng converter and photoshop.
Have a nice day.
nospam
wrote:
> >> OK - so I'm not stopping him from using photoshop.
> >
> > you're suggesting a completely incompatible solution.
>
> Guess I'm rather dense - you'll have to explain to me how that solution
> is any more incompatible than yours.
camera raw is a photoshop plugin. ufraw is not. camera raw is invoked
automatically when opening an image in photoshop. it 'just works.'
to use ufraw, it's a multi-step process that loses a substantial amount
of functionality.
> >> And chances are pretty
> >> good that ufraw will do most if not all of the changes he needs to make
> >> - working from the raw data.
> >
> > maybe yes, maybe no. the point is that he wants to use camera raw and
> > photoshop.
>
> And I guess the point is that he can't.
of course he can.
> So it's only going to take a free
> download for the OP to decide if what I propose will work for him/her.
camera raw is free. he only needs to download the appropriate version,
or use the (also free) dng converter if he wants to use a later version
of camera raw than what is supported by the version of photoshop he
wants to use. or, he can get a later version of photoshop.
> I don't see that ufraw and photoshop is any more or less 'incompatible'
> than dng converter and photoshop.
then you are unaware of what they can do, and it's quite a bit more
than ufraw/gimp/etc.
> Have a nice day.
thanks, you too.
ray
> In article <7pn2fs...@mid.individual.net>, ray <r...@zianet.com>
> wrote:
>
>> >> OK - so I'm not stopping him from using photoshop.
>> >
>> > you're suggesting a completely incompatible solution.
>>
>> Guess I'm rather dense - you'll have to explain to me how that solution
>> is any more incompatible than yours.
>
> camera raw is a photoshop plugin. ufraw is not. camera raw is invoked
> automatically when opening an image in photoshop. it 'just works.'
>
> to use ufraw, it's a multi-step process that loses a substantial amount
> of functionality.
I see - but to use dng converter is not.
>
>> >> And chances are pretty
>> >> good that ufraw will do most if not all of the changes he needs to
>> >> make - working from the raw data.
>> >
>> > maybe yes, maybe no. the point is that he wants to use camera raw and
>> > photoshop.
>>
>> And I guess the point is that he can't.
>
> of course he can.
>
>> So it's only going to take a free
>> download for the OP to decide if what I propose will work for him/her.
>
> camera raw is free. he only needs to download the appropriate version,
> or use the (also free) dng converter if he wants to use a later version
> of camera raw than what is supported by the version of photoshop he
> wants to use. or, he can get a later version of photoshop.
That seems to be the crux of the matter doesn't it? Either break the flow
or spend money.
nospam
wrote:
> >> Guess I'm rather dense - you'll have to explain to me how that solution
> >> is any more incompatible than yours.
> >
> > camera raw is a photoshop plugin. ufraw is not. camera raw is invoked
> > automatically when opening an image in photoshop. it 'just works.'
> >
> > to use ufraw, it's a multi-step process that loses a substantial amount
> > of functionality.
>
> I see - but to use dng converter is not.
you can batch convert the raws to dng and then use them as you would
any other raw file. there are no intermediate files.
although it is is another step, it's easy to batch convert them and
from the dng, you can do anything you want as if it was still the
original raw. with camera raw, you can even go back and re-adjust the
raw conversion *after* retouching and cropping the image.
> > camera raw is free. he only needs to download the appropriate version,
> > or use the (also free) dng converter if he wants to use a later version
> > of camera raw than what is supported by the version of photoshop he
> > wants to use. or, he can get a later version of photoshop.
>
> That seems to be the crux of the matter doesn't it? Either break the flow
> or spend money.
sometimes spending money is worth it.
he didn't say what camera he had, but if he absolutely must use the
latest camera raw, he can get photoshop elements for roughly $50
instead of cs4. i'm pretty sure he spent more than that on his camera,
probably a lot more.
Netman
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I have Canon 50D + 70-200 f/2.8 and 2 other lens.
I have seen a video tutorial which makes me satisfy about Camera Raw.
That`s why I want to buy PS CS4 and use Camera Raw plugin.
netman
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> I have Canon 50D + 70-200 f/2.8 and 2 other lens.
>
> I have seen a video tutorial which makes me satisfy about Camera Raw.
>
> That`s why I want to buy PS CS4 and use Camera Raw plugin.
the 50d is supported by camera raw 4.6 which will work in cs3. it's
also supported with cs4 and any version of camera raw 5.x.
<http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/detail.jsp?ftpID=4033>
<http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/detail.jsp?ftpID=4034>
ray
Or simply avoid the whole mess by using ufraw and GIMP - at no expense.
More than one way to skin a cat.