Large capacity storage
BD
images/movies from a CF UDMA card while 'on the go' for longer periods
of time.
I've read about 'digital wallets', I've read about using IPod videos
with a special camera connector... but am wondering if there are other
better options out there that I might have missed.
Dudley Hanks
"BD" <rober...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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My Dell netbook works well.
Take Care,
Dudley
Savageduck
Larry Thong
>> I've read about 'digital wallets', I've read about using IPod videos
>> with a special camera connector... but am wondering if there are other
>> better options out there that I might have missed.
>
> Check on the Colorspace UDMA from Hyperdrive;
> http://www.hypershop.com/
Does things aren't too bad, but $500 for the 500GB makes it a pony show.
I would get an ATOM based Netbook that will give you loads of options
and decent storage space in a very small package. You can always add
cheap external USB storage as well. Trust me, I've got the Epson
version of this thing and it just sits in the drawer after the one and
only time I used it.
J�rgen Exner
Depending upon your needs: a netbook with an attached 1TB USB HD.
With a simple netbook this combination will cost you around 350-400$ US.
jue
Savageduck
I have the 250GB UDMA, and it is easy to carry in a pocket as compared
with even a netbook, downloads are reasonably quick. It is quick and
easy to do incremental backups.
I use it mainly during trips as a travelling backup, soon to be used
extensively when I leave for Africa next week.
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Savageduck
Savageduck
BTW it is simple enough to upgrade the drive.
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Savageduck
Savageduck
> In article
> <1fbf45d9-d671-4a77...@r3g2000vbi.googlegroups.com>,
> A laptop. You can't beat it for capacity and flexibilty. A netbook might
> be suitable too.
.A laptop can be a squeeze in your pocket. I use a laptop, a Colorspace
UDMA and a Firewire drive for redundant backup.
The Colorspace UDMA is small enough to fit in a pocket, or bag. I
wouldn't want to lug a laptop, or netbook around to every shoot site.
I don't take the Colorspace everywhere. Just as you are not goin to see
most photographers lugging laptops all overthe place. I do not use the
Colorspace as a permanant archive, but as an interim field archive and
backup on travels where having that convenience is reassuring.
I still feel it is one of the best field solutions for backup, Also it
will read CF, MS, MMC & SD cards without missing a beat.
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Savageduck
Charles
"Dudley Hanks" <dha...@blind-apertures.ca> wrote in message
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Also, you can inexpensively expand a notebook/laptop with:
http://www.amazon.com/s/?ie=UTF8&keywords=western+digital+-+passport&tag=googhydr-20&index=aps&hvadid=3169237851&ref=pd_sl_5tybbsmdz7_e
BD
Wanna sell it?? ;)
Seriously... thanks all, for the feedback. I'm kind of on the fence:
I'm not a laptop-using kind of guy (I have one, and it just gathers
dust), so the small size of the UDMA is appealing. I'm concerned about
the device not keeping up with raw file format changes, that kind of
thing. If I can find a UDMA used, I might consider it - failing that,
I'll watch for good deals on netbooks. It's a bit more than I'd prefer
to carry around, but would probably be useful in other contexts as
well.
Savageduck
Keeping up with RAW is currently not a problem.
The colorspace UDMA is first a field backup device and it records the
files faithfully. I have used it to save D70 and D300 NEFs and when I
got my G11 for which Adobe has yet to update its camera profiles for,
the UDMA was able to handle and display those CR2s without issue.
Any future RAW files, even if their thumbnails are not displayed would
still have the file saved and backed up.
...and I am sure that if Hyperdrive is still in business it will have
firmware updates which would address any other compatibility issues.
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Regards,
Savageduck
-hh
> Shawn Hirn <s...@comcast.net> said:
> > BD <robert.d...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> Wondering if there's any buzz-worthy devices out there for offloading
> >> images/movies from a CF UDMA card while 'on the go' for longer periods
> >> of time.
>
> >> I've read about 'digital wallets', I've read about using IPod videos
> >> with a special camera connector... but am wondering if there are other
> >> better options out there that I might have missed.
FWIW, I looked into the iPod route 3-4 years ago. At that time, the
transfer speeds were utterly unacceptable. I ended up getting a pair
(redundancy) of the then-new Hyperdrive HD80's. If I were to lose
them, I'd replace them with the same (only newer model) today.
> > A laptop. You can't beat it for capacity and flexibilty. A netbook might
> > be suitable too.
>
> .A laptop can be a squeeze in your pocket. I use a laptop, a Colorspace
> UDMA and a Firewire drive for redundant backup.
A couple of pounds of laptop can also be a non-starter when trying to
fit all of ones gear *and clothing* into a 15kg weight limit on bush
planes, etc. Ditto for when you need to have something that can do
XX GB amount of data backups on but a single battery recharge.
The good news is that Flash Memory has gotten tremendously cheaper
over the past few years, so the choice of a dedicated wallet-esque
device can be considered vs. the alternative of simply buying gobs of
reasonably fast CF/SD cards.
-hh
GMAN
>Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
>> Shawn Hirn <s...@comcast.net> said:
>>
>> >> Wondering if there's any buzz-worthy devices out there for offloading
>> >> images/movies from a CF UDMA card while 'on the go' for longer periods
>> >> of time.
>>
>> >> I've read about 'digital wallets', I've read about using IPod videos
>> >> with a special camera connector... but am wondering if there are other
>> >> better options out there that I might have missed.
>
>FWIW, I looked into the iPod route 3-4 years ago. At that time, the
>transfer speeds were utterly unacceptable. I ended up getting a pair
>(redundancy) of the then-new Hyperdrive HD80's. If I were to lose
>them, I'd replace them with the same (only newer model) today.
>
>t
>> > be suitable too.
>>
>> .A laptop can be a squeeze in your pocket. I use a laptop, a Colorspace
>> UDMA and a Firewire drive for redundant backup.
>
>A couple of pounds of laptop can also be a non-starter when trying to
>fit all of ones gear *and clothing* into a 15kg weight limit on bush
>planes, etc. Ditto for when you need to have something that can do
>XX GB amount of data backups on but a single battery recharge.
>
>The good news is that Flash Memory has gotten tremendously cheaper
>over the past few years, so the choice of a dedicated wallet-esque
>device can be considered vs. the alternative of simply buying gobs of
>reasonably fast CF/SD cards.
>
>
>-hh
setting on my camera.
Savageduck
Certainly 32GB is going to to give you plenty of space to shoot all
day, probably all vacation, or professional shoot, however to trust all
of those shots to a single card is foolish.
What do you do for a redundant backup of that card in the field, or
even back at the hotel, or camp site? You have no way of ensuring
backup until you get to a computer. In a studio where you have direct
access to a computer the single card might be just fine. At a camp site
you may have no access to a computer. My Colorspace UDMA has sufficient
battery power to make incremental backups for many days.
With 2 cards of any size (probably 8GB to 32GB would be optimal) and a
CS UDMA, keeping one card in the camera and one card in the CS UDMA,
you can periodically, through your shooting day, swap cards and make an
incremental backup into a single folder in the CS UDMA. You don't even
have to watch the CS UDMA, start the incremental backup, put it back
into your pocket or bag, and it will power down once it has done its
job. That way you have the first step in making a backup way before you
get to a computer to make the next copy.
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Regards,
Savageduck
Wolfgang Weisselberg
> What do you do for a redundant backup of that card
use a camera that has 2 slots and allows simultaneous use.
No other way (outside transmitting the image via WiFi or firewire
or similar to a second location --- which can be hard in the
field), if you always need a redundant backup.
-Wolfgang
Savageduck
<ozcv...@sneakemail.com> said:
Nice thought, but my wallet is not quite ready for an upgrage from D300 to D3.
I was able to swing for the relatively inexpensive Colorspace UDMA 250GB.
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Savageduck
John Turco
<edited for brevity>
> I have the 250GB UDMA, and it is easy to carry in a pocket as compared
> with even a netbook, downloads are reasonably quick. It is quick and
> easy to do incremental backups.
>
> I use it mainly during trips as a travelling backup, soon to be used
> extensively when I leave for Africa next week.
Be careful! Do you know what those cannibals always say?
"You are who you eat."
--
Cordially,
John Turco <jt...@concentric.net>
Paintings Pain and Pun <http://laughatthepain.blogspot.com>
Филимон Лаковид
-hh
> Does things aren't too bad, but $500 for the 500GB makes it a pony
> show.
YMMV as to how much storage you want, although since the internal SATA
disk being used is a marketplace commodity you're going to pay about
the same price for it no matter what is wrapped around it.
For example, the Hyperdrive Colorspace UDMA is $250 without any
drive...add $50 for a 120GB from NewEgg or $100 for a 500GB as you
see fit...$300 to $350 total.
> I would get an ATOM based Netbook that will give you loads of
> options and decent Backup 120GB on a single chargestorage space in a very small package.
True in that an Atom does afford more options, but there's no such
thing as a free lunch. So while it might be "small enough' for your
interests, there are indeed smaller options.
For example, the aforementioned Colorspace is roughly 3"x5"x1" in size
(just over 15 cubic inches), has a transfer rate of 2GB/minute
("world's fastest"), can transfer 120GB on a single battery
charge...and at 9.5 ounces (270g), it is roughly 1/2 the weight (and
1/4 the size) of a typical Atom netbook, which means that if you
consider redundency to be a higher priority, you can do that within
the same envelope.
> You can always add cheap external USB storage as well.
True, but you better have grid power available, due to the big hit in
transfer speeds you'll take.
> Trust me, I've got the Epson version of this thing and it just
> sits in the drawer after the one and only time I used it.
Perhaps because you bought the fancy Epson version? I have a pair
of the older Hyperdrive HD80's and they've gone with me on every
"Expeditionary" photo trip I take.
-hh
J�rgen Exner
>For example, the Hyperdrive Colorspace UDMA is $250 without any
>drive...add $50 for a 120GB from NewEgg or $100 for a 500GB as you
>see fit...$300 to $350 total.
That's way overpriced! Shopping around it is not difficult to find 1TB
internal SATA drives for 90$ US and 2TB drives for 180$ US.
jue
nospam
<jurg...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> -hh <recscub...@huntzinger.com> wrote:
> >For example, the Hyperdrive Colorspace UDMA is $250 without any
> >drive...add $50 for a 120GB from NewEgg or $100 for a 500GB as you
> >see fit...$300 to $350 total.
>
> That's way overpriced!
not really.
> Shopping around it is not difficult to find 1TB
> internal SATA drives for 90$ US and 2TB drives for 180$ US.
shop around for some reading glasses and reread what he wrote. the
hyperdrive is a portable storage device, so he's talking about *laptop*
drives, not desktop drives.
J�rgen Exner
Well, it wasn't obvious from the posting that this device requires a
2.5" HD (assuming that's what you mean by laptop drive).
If that is the case, then yes, 2.5" drives are significantly more
expensive than 3.5" drives, indeed.
jue
nospam
<jurg...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Well, it wasn't obvious from the posting that this device requires a
> 2.5" HD (assuming that's what you mean by laptop drive).
it wasn't??
> > For example, the aforementioned Colorspace is roughly 3"x5"x1" in size
which desktop drive fits in that space?
> > (just over 15 cubic inches), has a transfer rate of 2GB/minute
> > ("world's fastest"), can transfer 120GB on a single battery
> > charge...and at 9.5 ounces (270g), it is roughly 1/2 the weight (and
> > 1/4 the size) of a typical Atom netbook, which means that if you
> > consider redundency to be a higher priority, you can do that within
> > the same envelope.
desktop drive on battery power? 270g ?
-hh
> Jürgen Exner <jurge...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > Well, it wasn't obvious from the posting that this device requires a
> > 2.5" HD (assuming that's what you mean by laptop drive).
>
> it wasn't??
>
> > > For example, the aforementioned Colorspace is roughly 3"x5"x1" in size
>
> which desktop drive fits in that space?
While I apologize for not being far more explicit, I didn't believe
that it was particularly necessary to do so, since the item of
comparison (an Atom Netbook) doesn't run off of a desktop 3.5" drive
either.
> > > (just over 15 cubic inches), has a transfer rate of 2GB/minute
> > > ("world's fastest"), can transfer 120GB on a single battery
> > > charge...and at 9.5 ounces (270g), it is roughly 1/2 the weight (and
> > > 1/4 the size) of a typical Atom netbook, which means that if you
> > > consider redundency to be a higher priority, you can do that within
> > > the same envelope.
>
> desktop drive on battery power? 270g ?
Since a specific product was named, one could have also tried a quick
Google before challenging. To be helpful, here's the relevant product
page which does explicitly state that it takes a 2.5" SATA:
<http://www.hypershop.com/HyperDrive-COLORSPACE-UDMA-Casing-Only-p/
hdcsu-000.htm>
FWIW, the battery power supply on the old Hyperdrive HD-80 that I have
consists of four (4) AA's ... the new Colorspace has replaced this
with a single 3.7v Li-Ion LG 18650 2600mAh battery.
FYI, it also appears that I erroniously quoted the specifications of
the previous "Colorspace" (not the current "Colorspace UDMA") model,
which results in some minor discrepancies.
Size: I said approx 5x3x1 ... exact values are: 5.25" x 2.95" x
1" (133 x 75 x 26 mm)
Weight: I had said 9.5/270gr...its now 10.5 ounce (298g)
GB transfer per battery charge: I had said 120GB ... its now 250GB.
All in all, its a pretty nice device for when it makes sense to
have. Its real niche is for when you want more capacity than your
[CF] cards alone, while also having weight (and/or power) limitations
that discourage a laptop/netbook type of solution. This isn't
necessarily a common problem, but it isn't an impossible one either:
I've run into it in bush plane flights on three continents.
-hh