> I'm intrigued by what 'fine art' photography actually is...<
That's easy. Anything with a nude or partially nude woman.
TJ
What is "fine art" and what separates it from the other creations in it's
category? Haven't you seen paintings or sculptures you though were not so
great, but they were in a museum somewhere?
If you can explain what qualifies ANY type of art work as "art" or "fine
art" then you are on your way to answering your own question.
Andy
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To many people, "fine art" means work that is masterfully done,
with careful attention to lighting, technique, etc. That brings
to mind the old masters such as Rembrandt. However, other people
will say that some of the garbage that is alleged to be art is
actually "fine art" (a collage of elephant dung, for example).
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
With respect to photographic fine art, here is what it means to
ME: superb photographic technique, lighting, composition, etc.
Also, there should be an emotional aspect to the photograph. It
should move me in some manner: admiration, love, hate,
compassion, etc. Consider Ansel Adams' photographs of the
American West, for example. Most people upon seeing an original
Adams print will react by saying something such as, "Wow!" "That
is gorgeous." "I don't know why, but I like it."
You will never get a consensus regarding what constitutes "fine
art." Just use your definition and go with it.
In the old days (before computers), there was an old saying about
the typewriting used for a letter: "You should not notice the
typewriting--if you do, something is wrong." The same could be
said for photographic technique in fine art photography. If
superb technique enables you to communicate what you wanted to
communicate, then the communication will succeed. Upon analysis,
the viewer may then notice the technique (as with Ansel Adams),
but that is secondary.
Ken
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Thanks for the replies so far! (am we allowed to say thanks anymore on
the group!)
Incidentally, what a cynical newsgroup this is :-)
So, I go to one, after having carefully put my negative into a holder
of some sort. I go the front counter and talk to a customer service
person, and tell them what kind of print I want. Maybe I want to give
detailed instructions, like, "Please stop this down by one F-stop", or
"Can you please dodge the foreground to bring it out little more?".
If you're lucky the front-counter person will understand what you mean
when you say these things, and perhaps tell you that there's a
slightly higher fee for those services, since, they require an
aesthetic judgement to be made on the part of the printer.
If the person appears not to understand, then I ask them, "Look, is
this a fine-art lab, or do you just do production work?" Now, if they
don't understand *that* question, I need to take my business
elsewhere. So you see the expression "fine-art" has a fairly precise
definition when it comes to the business of photogrphic production.
Maybe I'm being a bit snobbish, but I feel more comfortable handing my
precious negs over to someone who at least *knows* what fine-art work
is.
And, to bring this thread back to the domain of this newsgroup, a
reasonable question to ask might be, "What kind of services should a
good fine-art lab offer to the digital photographer?"
Just my $0.02.
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I found out that the difference between a piano player and a pianist was around
$300.
Editorial - documentation of a newsworthy event.
Commercial - somebody's paying you to show something the way they want it
shown.
Artistic - showing something the way you want it shown, in a way meant to
generate an emotion (other than pure lust) in a typical viewer.
Pornography - meant to generate lust, and no other emotion, in a typical
viewer. In other words, photos of a sexual nature that have no "redeeming"
artistic value.
Fine Art - an Artistic photo that nobody bought.
Thanks,
- Peter
Fine Art - photos of an artistic nature that have no redeeming commercial
value.
Thanks,
- Peter
I shall not attempt to define fine art photography, but the best examples
I've seen of it are at www.luminous-landscape.com.
-Lars
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>Or, more in line with my previous definition:
>
>Fine Art - photos of an artistic nature that have no redeeming commercial
>value.
That one I like!
You do 'lust' a dis-service below. Lust for money, food, a fine
vintage motor-car, a new digital camera... can all be engendered by
good photography (see Commercial and Artistic below) and can be
considered the aim of advertising photography.
:)
Tony.
Anything that you call "fine art" IS "fine art." It's as simple as that.
Wayne
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Well said.
Marcel
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...framed.
Clyde
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