Can you edit my picture to make it look better?
Huynh
please. I have guest coming over from France and so I am too busy trying to
figure out which digital camera and camCorder to buy to edit images right
now not to mention my college schedule. Also, it is because I can't seem to
duplicate the profesional look that I always see.
If you are interested, please send me an email duke13630[at]houston.rr.com
or reply to this post and I will send you the picture.
This will be donated work, something for you to practive your editing skill
on.
The image was scanned from two snapshots side by side in the hopes that it
will show well on my 65inch tv when i display it. It is too long and so I
wanted to cut out an inch of the touching sides on each picture. My effort
is very bad, could you do a more artistic job? The snapshots were scanned
at 300dpi. I can rescann if you need me to.
Lionel
<7uWGa.16313$Il4.1...@twister.austin.rr.com>, "Huynh"
<duke...@houston.rr.com> said:
>I would like to ask anyone with some sort of talent to edit a picture for me
>please. I have guest coming over from France and so I am too busy trying to
>figure out which digital camera and camCorder to buy to edit images right
>now not to mention my college schedule.
You poor love. It sounds like you're having a really tough life. Life
was so much easier for me when I was in school, what with digital
cameras not having been invented at the time, & barely having enough
money to eat. I don't know how kids today cope!
> Also, it is because I can't seem to
>duplicate the profesional look that I always see.
*Gasp!* No?!?
>If you are interested, please send me an email duke13630[at]houston.rr.com
>or reply to this post and I will send you the picture.
>This will be donated work, something for you to practive your editing skill
>on.
Gee thanks, that's very generous of you. You see, I have this terrible
shortage of photos to 'practive my editing skills on', & I've nothing
better to do with my life than hang out in newsgroups, waiting for
random new posters to give me crappy snapshots to turn into professional
works of art.
>The image was scanned from two snapshots side by side in the hopes that it
>will show well on my 65inch tv when i display it. It is too long and so I
>wanted to cut out an inch of the touching sides on each picture. My effort
>is very bad, could you do a more artistic job?
Undoubtedly.
> The snapshots were scanned
>at 300dpi. I can rescann if you need me to.
Would you perhaps like us to send you some gold bars as well, or would
you prefer a cheque? Maybe a few volunteer photographers to go & take
your photos for you, perhaps? I know! - I'll sell my car, buy an air
ticket to Austin, Texas, pack up my photography gear & fly out to you to
take your photos for you, fix your scanned images, *and* take you
shopping for your digital camera & camcorder for you! - How's that for a
deal? Plus, I can even go pick up your French guest from the airport for
you!
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. | ,. w , "Some people are alive only because
\|/ \|/ it is illegal to kill them." Perna condita delenda est
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Giorgis
> shortage of photos to 'practive my editing skills on', & I've nothing
> better to do with my life than hang out in newsgroups, waiting for
> random new posters to give me crappy snapshots to turn into professional
> works of art.
Geeez, this is a news group and somebody is asking for help. His request
may sound ridiculous so all you have to do is ignore it. This is a big place
and helpful people may pop out from anywhere.
Think products like Linux are being developed for effectively nothing
and are giving heartache to companies like Microsoft that have invested
billions in their own equivalent.
PS: Do you also thing that infomercial hosts are addressing you directly
?
G
Lionel
<3eec416c$0$26636$afc3...@news.optusnet.com.au>, "Giorgis"
<gior...@hotmail.com> said:
>> Gee thanks, that's very generous of you. You see, I have this terrible
>> shortage of photos to 'practive my editing skills on', & I've nothing
>> better to do with my life than hang out in newsgroups, waiting for
>> random new posters to give me crappy snapshots to turn into professional
>> works of art.
>
> Geeez, this is a news group and somebody is asking for help.
I'm sorry, I didn't notice that their post was crossposted to
'rec.photo.digital.help-for-photographers-too-lazy-to-do-their-own-editing'.
My apologies to the original poster for this grievous error on my part.
> His request
>may sound ridiculous so all you have to do is ignore it. This is a big place
>and helpful people may pop out from anywhere.
I don't have a problem with people asking for help, it's the "I'm too
lazy to do it myself - do it for me!" attitude that I'm having a problem
with. Particularly as this person is acting like giving people something
to 'practice on' is doing us a favour. If [s]he'd been asking for
*advice* on how to do it [him|her]self, I'd be happy to help (or at
least not comment).
> Think products like Linux are being developed for effectively nothing
>and are giving heartache to companies like Microsoft that have invested
>billions in their own equivalent.
So what? - Go to a Linux newsgroup & ask a Linux developer to install it
on your machine for you, & they'll tell you to piss off as well. They'll
also most likely be a lot ruder about it than I was.
> PS: Do you also thing that infomercial hosts are addressing you directly
>?
No, but then I also don't watch TV if I can avoid it. Besides, I'd
cheerfully string up the inventor of infomercials, if I thought I could
get away with it.
Giorgis
<snip>
Hmm .. reading my post I think I was as harsh as I thaught you were ;-)
Aaaa well, such is usenet.
G
Lionel
<3eec63b2$0$26638$afc3...@news.optusnet.com.au>, "Giorgis"
<gior...@hotmail.com> said:
Dont' worry about it. This is one of the politest newsgroups I post to.
It takes a pretty impressive flame to bother me, & it's been a very long
time since I was last upset by one. ;)
Paul H.
"Giorgis" <gior...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:3eec63b2$0$26638$afc3...@news.optusnet.com.au...
I'm so ashamed. After reading the original post I was only *that* far
(displays a gap of 2mm with thumb and forefinger) from hiring a hit man to
kill the original poster and his family, as well as that damnable French
"guest."
Thank heavens I realized I was overreacting to a trifle before things got
too far out of hand. Usenet. Go figure.
Douglas W. Hoyt
me
> please.
This is clearly contest material. Please reply to dougl...@charter.net
and I will edit your picture. I also hope that plenty others will do the
same (and post them to public access websites). Then, we will figure out
who did the best job. I vote that you be the judge.
Lionel
<veqa1so...@corp.supernews.com>, "Douglas W. Hoyt"
<dougl...@charter.net> said:
What's the prize being offered?
Todd Walker
> What's the prize being offered?
>
Prize? Well, getting "practice" editing a picture of course! God knows
none of us have any pictures to edit so an opportunity like this comes
along only once in a lifetime! :-)
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________________________________
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http://twalker.d2g.com
Olympus E20
Canon G2
My Digital Photography Weblog:
http://twalker.d2g.com/dpblog.htm
_________________________________
Lionel
<MPG.195723eef...@news-server.jam.rr.com>, Todd Walker
<twalk...@hotmail.com> said:
>In article <bcj9fn$hfa$3...@pita.alt.net>, n...@alt.net says...
>> What's the prize being offered?
>>
>
>Prize? Well, getting "practice" editing a picture of course! God knows
>none of us have any pictures to edit so an opportunity like this comes
>along only once in a lifetime! :-)
<grin>
Well indeed. This highly prestigious contest is obviously a higher
priority than the 2GB of RAW photos that I should be turning into pages
on my website. ;)
Derek Fountain
> on your machine for you, & they'll tell you to piss off as well. They'll
> also most likely be a lot ruder about it than I was.
I pretty much agree with the sentiment of your original reply, but the bit
quoted above stands correction.
Linux is very different culture to what most people are used to. If anyone
asks for help with a Linux problem, they are rarely told to piss off. On
the contrary; they will be helped online as much as possible, and
encouraged to attend their local user group where people will help them do
their installation. In the past I've offered to go round to local people's
houses and help them get their Linux stuff working. I'm not the only one -
it's part of the Linux culture.
On the other hand, if someone asked me to go and help help them sort out a
photo, I'd give them the short answer you did. Double standards?
Definitely. There's just something special about the sharing culture which
has evolved around Linux.
Lionel
<3eed7a59$0$31519$5a62...@freenews.iinet.net.au>, Derek Fountain
<nom...@hursley.ibm.com> said:
>> So what? - Go to a Linux newsgroup & ask a Linux developer to install it
>> on your machine for you, & they'll tell you to piss off as well. They'll
>> also most likely be a lot ruder about it than I was.
>
>I pretty much agree with the sentiment of your original reply, but the bit
>quoted above stands correction.
>
>Linux is very different culture to what most people are used to. If anyone
>asks for help with a Linux problem, they are rarely told to piss off. On
>the contrary; they will be helped online as much as possible, and
>encouraged to attend their local user group where people will help them do
>their installation. In the past I've offered to go round to local people's
>houses and help them get their Linux stuff working. I'm not the only one -
>it's part of the Linux culture.
Very true, but the newbie would be expected to make *an honest effort*
before someone would go around to their house to help them. I too have
helped people with that sort of thing, but having been on a couple of
Linux user group mailing lists, & participated in several such
newsgroups, I still maintain that someone saying "I want you to install
this for me, because I'm too busy" (which is the equivalent of what the
OP was saying), would be told to eff off.
>On the other hand, if someone asked me to go and help help them sort out a
>photo, I'd give them the short answer you did. Double standards?
>Definitely. There's just something special about the sharing culture which
>has evolved around Linux.
It's special, but it's not *that* special. ;)
Gavin Gillespie
"Lionel" <n...@alt.net> wrote in message news:bchdsq$ubp$2...@pita.alt.net...
> On Sun, 15 Jun 2003 08:53:23 GMT, in
> <7uWGa.16313$Il4.1...@twister.austin.rr.com>, "Huynh"
> <duke...@houston.rr.com> said:
>
> >I would like to ask anyone with some sort of talent to edit a picture for
me
> >please. I have guest coming over from France and so I am too busy trying
to
> >figure out which digital camera and camCorder to buy to edit images right
> >now not to mention my college schedule.
>
> You poor love. It sounds like you're having a really tough life. Life
> was so much easier for me when I was in school, what with digital
> cameras not having been invented at the time, & barely having enough
> money to eat. I don't know how kids today cope!
>
> > Also, it is because I can't seem to
> >duplicate the profesional look that I always see.
>
> *Gasp!* No?!?
>
> >If you are interested, please send me an email
duke13630[at]houston.rr.com
> >or reply to this post and I will send you the picture.
> >This will be donated work, something for you to practive your editing
skill
> >on.
>
I have just spent about 8 hours, working on some images of steam traction
engines that I took on Saturday, at a local show.
I meticulously cut out each engine, in order to heavily blur the background,
and get that 'professional look' (it would have probably worked out cheaper
to buy better lenses). After I had done this, I noticed that two of the
images were not as professional looking as I had hoped, but not a bad
effort, and I have certainly learnt from those mistakes, but can you spot
them?
Pictures on the following link:-
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/gavin.gillespie/photo26.htm
--
Gavin Gillespie
Nottingham UK
www.Giltbrook.co.uk
www.LawrencesEastwood.co.uk
Lionel
<YQgHa.12913$0d7.3...@newsfep4-glfd.server.ntli.net>, "Gavin
Gillespie" <not.w...@dontuse.com.uk> said:
>I have just spent about 8 hours, working on some images of steam traction
>engines that I took on Saturday, at a local show.
>I meticulously cut out each engine, in order to heavily blur the background,
>and get that 'professional look' (it would have probably worked out cheaper
>to buy better lenses). After I had done this, I noticed that two of the
>images were not as professional looking as I had hoped, but not a bad
>effort, and I have certainly learnt from those mistakes, but can you spot
>them?
Apart from the fact that you've used the identical background for each
shot? It looks like the middle shot /might/ be for real, but you've cut
out the background, blurred & smudged it, then used it as the background
for the other two engines.
You've also forgotten to add the shadows to the top & bottom shots, &
the lighting & shadow is at the wrong angles for that background anyway,
making for extremely artificial looking composites.
It looks like the original photos were rather nice, but I'm afraid
you've let yourself down in Photoshop.
Surely it would've been easier to just take each shot with a 50mm prime,
& stop it down just enough to get the entire engine in focus?
Gavin Gillespie
"Lionel" <n...@alt.net> wrote in message news:bck7ip$b5s$3...@pita.alt.net...
> On Mon, 16 Jun 2003 11:19:30 +0100, in
> <YQgHa.12913$0d7.3...@newsfep4-glfd.server.ntli.net>, "Gavin
> Gillespie" <not.w...@dontuse.com.uk> said:
>
> >I have just spent about 8 hours, working on some images of steam traction
> >engines that I took on Saturday, at a local show.
> >I meticulously cut out each engine, in order to heavily blur the
background,
> >and get that 'professional look' (it would have probably worked out
cheaper
> >to buy better lenses). After I had done this, I noticed that two of the
> >images were not as professional looking as I had hoped, but not a bad
> >effort, and I have certainly learnt from those mistakes, but can you spot
> >them?
>
> Apart from the fact that you've used the identical background for each
> shot? It looks like the middle shot /might/ be for real, but you've cut
> out the background, blurred & smudged it, then used it as the background
> for the other two engines.
>
> You've also forgotten to add the shadows to the top & bottom shots, &
> the lighting & shadow is at the wrong angles for that background anyway,
> making for extremely artificial looking composites.
>
> It looks like the original photos were rather nice, but I'm afraid
> you've let yourself down in Photoshop.
>
> Surely it would've been easier to just take each shot with a 50mm prime,
> & stop it down just enough to get the entire engine in focus?
>
It was the shadows under the engines, that I forgot in the top and bottom
shots, but they were taken from the same position, and although the same
background is used, it was at nearly the same time, and angle, for the top
and bottom shots.
The middle shot, which I worked on last, was taken from a different angle,
but using the same background as the others, just leaving in the shadows
under the engine has made it seem more realistic.
The original intention was to cut out the images, and use them on a plain
background.
You didn't spot that the steam engines were running on smokeless fuel then
;o)
Back to the drawing board :o)
Charlie
> Back to the drawing board :o)
Hi Gavin,
Since you've already "bared your sole," how about posting the three
tractors "as shot." I'll bet the backgrounds weren't too distracting
anyway.
Also, you might have just used the blur tool on the backgrounds and not
cut out the tractors. You can vary the size, shape and intensity of the
blur tool just like a brush.
--
Charlie Dilks
Newark, DE USA
Todd Walker
cdi...@bellatlantic.net says...
> Since you've already "bared your sole," how about posting the three
> tractors "as shot." I'll bet the backgrounds weren't too distracting
> anyway.
>
I would like to see the originals too. All three shots look completely
fake but the quality and details are there.
Lionel
<0EhHa.12947$0d7.3...@newsfep4-glfd.server.ntli.net>, "Gavin
Gillespie" <not.w...@dontuse.com.uk> said:
>You didn't spot that the steam engines were running on smokeless fuel then
>;o)
I just assumed that the engines weren't running at the time, which also
made it seem a little odd that they'd just be sitting there in a
paddock.
>Back to the drawing board :o)
<grin>