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RichA  
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 More options Nov 22 2009, 8:18 pm
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From: RichA <rander3...@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 17:18:03 -0800 (PST)
Local: Sun, Nov 22 2009 8:18 pm
Subject: Not great for Nikon PR I'd say
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Ray Fischer  
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 More options Nov 22 2009, 8:37 pm
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From: rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer)
Date: 23 Nov 2009 01:37:16 GMT
Local: Sun, Nov 22 2009 8:37 pm
Subject: Re: Not great for Nikon PR I'd say

At least the bullets aren't made out of plastic, right?

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Rich  
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 More options Nov 22 2009, 8:49 pm
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From: Rich <rander3...@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 17:49:31 -0800 (PST)
Local: Sun, Nov 22 2009 8:49 pm
Subject: Re: Not great for Nikon PR I'd say
On Nov 22, 8:37 pm, rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:

> RichA  <rander3...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1021&message=33770272

> At least the bullets aren't made out of plastic, right?

> --

They only use plastic bullets on malcontents like you at G20 meetings.

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C J Campbell  
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 More options Nov 22 2009, 10:57 pm
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From: C J Campbell <christophercampbellremovet...@hotmail.com>
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 19:57:39 -0800
Local: Sun, Nov 22 2009 10:57 pm
Subject: Re: Not great for Nikon PR I'd say
On 2009-11-22 17:37:16 -0800, rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) said:

> RichA  <rander3...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1021&message=33770272

> At least the bullets aren't made out of plastic, right?

Gee. A company that makes hunting scopes sponsors <gasp> hunting! Of
course, we all know that the photographs on the original
anti-hunting/anti-Nikon web site are real, depict that actual event,
and are unretouched, right?

And now, for the lighter side of predator hunting, I bring you this
actual NTSB report, just in case you think the hunters always win:

SEA02LA058
On March 25, 2002, about 0720 mountain standard time, a Piper
PA-18-150, N22EV, sustained substantial damage after colliding with
terrain near Fort Peck, Montana. The airplane is owned by the pilot,
and was being operated as a visual flight rules (VFR) flight under the
provisions of Title 14, CFR Part 91. The commercial pilot-in-command
and passenger sustained serious injuries. Visual meteorological
conditions prevailed and no flight plan was filed.

The pilot was
conducting a predator (coyote) control flight over private rangeland
near Fort Peck. During the flight, at a reported altitude of
approximately 40 feet above ground level (AGL), the passenger
inadvertently discharged a semiautomatic 12-gauge shotgun. The pilot,
who was seated in the forward seat, reported that the gun fired 3-4
times, striking the right wing, fuel tank and aileron assembly. He
reported that the damage resulted in a loss of aileron and elevator
control. The airplane entered a descending turn to the right and
subsequently impacted terrain in a nose-low attitude. The pilot
reported the aircraft was on fire upon touchdown and continued to burn
after the impact. 

The pilot reported that there were no preexisting
mechanical malfunctions or failures that contributed to the accident. 


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Ray Fischer  
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 More options Nov 23 2009, 12:46 am
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From: rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer)
Date: 23 Nov 2009 05:46:06 GMT
Local: Mon, Nov 23 2009 12:46 am
Subject: Re: Not great for Nikon PR I'd say
C J Campbell  <christophercampbellremovet...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>On 2009-11-22 17:37:16 -0800, rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) said:

>> RichA  <rander3...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1021&message=33770272

>> At least the bullets aren't made out of plastic, right?

>Gee. A company that makes hunting scopes sponsors <gasp> hunting!

You're missing the point.

> Of
>course, we all know that the photographs on the original

It's the fact that Nikon is SPONSORING the event that is the issue.

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C J Campbell  
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 More options Nov 23 2009, 12:13 pm
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From: C J Campbell <christophercampbellremovet...@hotmail.com>
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 09:13:39 -0800
Local: Mon, Nov 23 2009 12:13 pm
Subject: Re: Not great for Nikon PR I'd say
On 2009-11-22 21:46:06 -0800, rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) said:

I guess I am just not shocked at the idea that a company that
manufactures hunting supplies might sponsor hunting contests.

But then, I was born in Idaho...

I loved the one comment on the thread -- the assertion that children
exposed to such twisted violence must grow up to be psychopaths. I
guess that explains why all third world countries and practically
everyone who was born before 1960 or who ever lived on a farm, or
anyone else who does not buy their meat in neat little plastic wrapped
packages, is a psychopath, eh? Better watch out! I am a dangerous
psychopath! But you probably knew that all along.

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 More options Nov 23 2009, 4:26 pm
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From: Matt Ion <soundy...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 13:26:03 -0800
Local: Mon, Nov 23 2009 4:26 pm
Subject: Re: Not great for Nikon PR I'd say
On 23/11/2009 9:13 AM, C J Campbell wrote:

Guess that includes me too, then... and everyone else I went to school
with.  I suppose the fact that hunter education was part of the Grade 8
curriculum means we're state-created psychopaths.

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 More options Nov 24 2009, 1:55 am
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From: "Private" <ple...@dont.bother>
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 23:55:45 -0700
Local: Tues, Nov 24 2009 1:55 am
Subject: Re: Not great for Nikon PR I'd say

"C J Campbell" <christophercampbellremovet...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:2009112219573916807-christophercampbellremovethis@hotmailcom...

The NTSB database contains many similar crash reports involving low level
shooting activities in&from Cubs and similar aircraft.  Most are stall-spin
and CFIT but IIRC a surprising number are also directly gunshot related.
IMHO, The activities cost outcomes seem to be greater than any marginal and
temporary benefit.

Happy landings,


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C J Campbell  
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 More options Nov 27 2009, 12:22 pm
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From: C J Campbell <christophercampbellremovet...@hotmail.com>
Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009 09:22:19 -0800
Local: Fri, Nov 27 2009 12:22 pm
Subject: Re: Not great for Nikon PR I'd say
On 2009-11-23 22:55:45 -0800, "Private" <ple...@dont.bother> said:

Probably a good thing the pilot broke his legs on landing. Otherwise he
might have killed his passenger. :D

I have this image of Sean Connery in the plane with Indiana Jones.
"They got us, Son."

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