Nevertheless we have to follow the new procedures obediently and
politely.
So how are residents of Canada and elsewhere going to get our bulky
teles and multiple camera bodies down to the States when carry-on bags
are not allowed? One answer seems to be to send ahead using couriers.
Their percent lost and stolen packages are near zero, much lower than
the airlines. It might cost $100/package, but that might be worth it
for some.
Two questions, though, for those that might have experience with this:
1) Where to send the package if I have no hotel reservation at the
destination?
2) Are there going to be hassles with U.S. customs?
Any other helpful suggestions appreciated too.
Wally
On topic replies only please.
I made the flight from AMS to Detroit on Dec 22. I had a carry on with
all of what was left of my camera gear and a laptop case (2 carry on
items) with no problem.
Currently the rules for carry on bags are in major flux. Canadian carry
on rules for flights to the US seem to be the most draconian at the
moment, but that could change from day to day. Check with your airline,
directly through a customer service number not online. Those Canadian
rules might have changed to something saner by the time you travel.
As to courier services costs and customs clearing issues, see what
FedEx has to say.
--
Regards,
Savageduck
Yes, I will call them -- not too sure they will give me a straight
answer on the U.S. customs issue, but we will see.
> So how are residents of Canada and elsewhere going to get our bulky
> teles and multiple camera bodies down to the States when carry-on bags
> are not allowed?
vote with your wallet. cancel the trip until they stop treating you and
everyone else like a criminal. be sure to explain to the airline and
the cities you were planning on visiting where you were going to spend
money why you will be going someplace *else*.
Why would any business in the US care if Canucks came or not?
Why punish the destinations in the US for what Canada is doing? The
airline and the cities in the US have no control over what Canada's
transportation security agency requires. Seems to me the complaints
should be dericted to CATSA and whatever part of the Canadian
government is responsible for this decision.
Canadians, by and large, are very friendly people, and I have had
nothing but pleasant experiences in Canada, even in P.Q. with my very
limited French. Please do not knock an entire nation because of
over-reaction by a few government officials. That is not fair.
Mort
USA
> Why punish the destinations in the US for what Canada is doing?
do you have a better way to end this nonsense? they can always drive,
and even take a domestic flight within the usa which is not restricted,
yet.
> The airline and the cities in the US have no control over what Canada's
> transportation security agency requires. Seems to me the complaints
> should be dericted to CATSA and whatever part of the Canadian
> government is responsible for this decision.
yes they do, and it's not just canada.
<http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/74041-homeland-securit
y-dept-to-launch-international-airport-security-campaign>
�As part of the ongoing review to determine exactly what went wrong
leading up to Friday�s attempted terrorist attack, we are looking not
only at our own processes, but also beyond our borders to ensure
effective aviation security measures are in place for U.S-bound flights
that originate at international airports,� Homeland Security Secretary
Janet Napolitano said in a statement Thursday.
Yes, but to pull the discussion back to topic, what's the best way for
photographer travellers to deal with this, when taking along expensive
and bulky cameras/lenses?
Wally
Travel by train. No luggage limits, no weight limits, no obnoxious body
searches, not squeezed into a sardine can with no leg room, ...
And it's faster than flying for distances up to 1000km or more, too,
because there's no need for neither commuting too and from the airport
far outside the city nor for "be there hours before departure".
jue
I would definitely add insurance for the fedex method.
Is that a possibility for checked baggage?
> Two questions, though, for those that might have experience with this:
> 1) Where to send the package if I have no hotel reservation at the
> destination?
>
> 2) Are there going to be hassles with U.S. customs?
>
> Any other helpful suggestions appreciated too.
>
> Wally
>
> On topic replies only please.
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Not sure about North America but here in Europe Fed-Ex offers a
guaranteed next day delivery for International parcels to major cities.
In the UK it's called International Express. It's not cheap!
You have to complete a customs declaration form before the parcel is
accepted. The form must itemise every item inside the parcel along with
its value and provided none of the items are on a customs technology
list or prohibited then Fed-Ex pre-clear customs so there are no delays.
As your planning to ship it to the USA and then back to Canada you might
(legally) need a carnet de passage. Would be worth speaking to Fed-Ex
about it.
HTH
--
Regards
Bristolian
> Just ban underwear ... Scots in kilts won't have a problem ;)
...but just consider what could be packed in his sporran.
--
Regards,
Savageduck
Who told you carryon bags were not allowed? Returning to the US, I passed
through security at Pearson last Sunday and Monday - two of the worst days
for traveling since the bomb attempt. On Sunday, you were limited to one
piece of carry-on baggage. On Monday, you were limited to one piece of
carry-on and it couldn't have wheels. I had no problem with a good sized
backpack and that's what I'd recommend.
As someone anticipating a trip to Austria in July, this is a timely topic. I
will not need next-day service, but these suggestions on the various options
to get stuff there and back with minimal risk of both theft *and* damage are
appreciated. Is this somethihng that most travel agents are well versed in
assisting people with?
Gary T
Is this somethihng that most travel
> agents are well versed in assisting people with?
>
> Gary T
From my experience of travel agents the answer to your questions is an
emphatic NO!
Speak to the experts - the various courier companies
HTH
--
Regards
Bristolian
Money. You need to trade. Also Canadians have money to spend
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>"Wally" <Wa...@luxx.com> wrote in message
>news:gjssj5taeofk9t6n6...@4ax.com...
>| So how are residents of Canada and elsewhere going to get our bulky
>| teles and multiple camera bodies down to the States when carry-on bags
>| are not allowed? One answer seems to be to send ahead using couriers.
>| Their percent lost and stolen packages are near zero, much lower than
>| the airlines. It might cost $100/package, but that might be worth it
>| for some.
>|
>| Two questions, though, for those that might have experience with this:
>| 1) Where to send the package if I have no hotel reservation at the
>| destination?
>|
>| 2) Are there going to be hassles with U.S. customs?
>|
>| Any other helpful suggestions appreciated too.
>|
>| Wally
>|
>| On topic replies only please.
>
>Who told you carryon bags were not allowed? Returning to the US, I passed
>through security at Pearson last Sunday and Monday - two of the worst days
>for traveling since the bomb attempt. On Sunday, you were limited to one
>piece of carry-on baggage. On Monday, you were limited to one piece of
>carry-on and it couldn't have wheels. I had no problem with a good sized
>backpack and that's what I'd recommend.
Thanks, that's useful information.
As for where I heard it, check out
http://www.aircanada.com/en/news/trav_adv/091230.html
where it says "the new regulations do not permit carry-on bags on
flights to the United States", but then they state exceptions, like
laptops, but without saying whether those articles need to be bare or
can be in a bag.
Wally
On-topic follow-ups only please.
The regs may still be in flux. It took me nearly 5 hrs to get through
Customs and security on the 27th and I missed my flight by 20 minutes and
had to stay over an extra day. Things were far better organized on the 28th
and I made my flight with time to spare. The limits on carryons may be more
of a function of time needed to check them as opposed to threats from what's
carried on. Although on the 28th, they were doing the pat down and carryon
check in parallel so reducing the carryon check time probably wouldn't have
reduced the time involved. The whole situation is a mess and really
untenable. I've lost all interest in international travel unless absolutely
necessary. When I go to Canada, I usually fly into Detroit then cross into
Canada by vehicle but this Christmas, it appeared more convenient to fly
into Toronto. Little did I know.
Complain to the Canadian TSA and other agencies of the Canadian
government responsible for transportation security. Complain the the
Canadian legislature. If any kind of boycott is warranted, it should
be US travelers flying to Canada, rather than the other way around.
> > The airline and the cities in the US have no control over what Canada's
> > transportation security agency requires. Seems to me the complaints
> > should be dericted to CATSA and whatever part of the Canadian
> > government is responsible for this decision.
>
> yes they do,
Well, they can complain about the CATSA's policy, just like anyone
else, but they don't make the policy.
> and it's not just canada.
>
> <http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/74041-homeland-securit
> y-dept-to-launch-international-airport-security-campaign>
The US regulations require hand checking carry-on bags for passengers
flying from or through 14 countries that are designated as state
sponsors of terrorism or similar high risk areas. There has been no
move by the US to ban carry-ons altogether as Canada has done.
Complain to the Canadian TSA and other agencies of the Canadian
government responsible for transportation security. Complain the the
Canadian legislature. If any kind of boycott is warranted, it should
be US travelers flying to Canada, rather than the other way around.
> > The airline and the cities in the US have no control over what Canada's
> > transportation security agency requires. Seems to me the complaints
> > should be dericted to CATSA and whatever part of the Canadian
> > government is responsible for this decision.
>
> yes they do,
Well, they can complain about the CATSA's policy, just like anyone
else, but they don't make the policy.
> and it's not just canada.
>
> <http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/74041-homeland-securit
> y-dept-to-launch-international-airport-security-campaign>
The US regulations require hand checking carry-on bags for passengers
> Well, they can complain about the CATSA's policy, just like anyone
> else, but they don't make the policy.
in order to fly into the usa, foreign security must meet certain tsa
guidelines. that's why there's shoe/liquid checks for usa bound flights
but not for flight to other places.
the whole thing is a big charade.
how about this gem? they only plan to catch 1 out of 4 criminals, up
every so slightly from 2009 (25%->26%):
<http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/59213>
to me, that says 'failure'.
CATSA has published details of what is allowed carried on the plane
("Items not counted as carry-on") when flying from a Canadian airport
to the U.S. It includes specific guidelines for camera equipment.
Allowed are:
"o Cameras (still and video) and accessories in purpose-
designed carrying cases
- includes film, lenses, spare batteries, chargers, cables
- includes large, professional-grade cameras and equipment
(See "Items not counted as carry-on (US flights)" in
http://www.acsta.gc.ca/Page.aspx?id=77&pname=measures_mesures&lang=en
or http://tinyurl.com/yergtk3.)
Good news for travelling photographers.
Wally