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RichA

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Dec 10, 2009, 12:55:15 PM12/10/09
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But of course a very expensive new 300mm f2.8. They really know how
to protect their profit margins.

http://www.dpreview.com/news/0912/09121003nikkor300vrII.asp

Ray Fischer

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Dec 10, 2009, 1:24:24 PM12/10/09
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RichA <rande...@gmail.com> wrote:
>But of course a very expensive new 300mm f2.8. They really know how
>to protect their profit margins.

As do you.

>http://www.dpreview.com/news/0912/09121003nikkor300vrII.asp

You can always buy Sigma. I'm pretty sure that they don't use TOO
much plastic.

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Ray Fischer
rfis...@sonic.net

Floyd L. Davidson

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Dec 10, 2009, 2:34:42 PM12/10/09
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Nikon appears to know exactly what their customer base needs.

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Floyd L. Davidson <http://www.apaflo.com/floyd_davidson>
Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska) fl...@apaflo.com

me

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Dec 10, 2009, 4:09:02 PM12/10/09
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On Thu, 10 Dec 2009 09:55:15 -0800 (PST), RichA <rande...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>But of course a very expensive new 300mm f2.8. They really know how
>to protect their profit margins.
>
>http://www.dpreview.com/news/0912/09121003nikkor300vrII.asp


So just quit whining, buy a 70-200mm f/2.8 VR/II and put a TC-14e-II
behind it and start taking photos instead of posting this drivel ad
nauseum.

Rich

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Dec 10, 2009, 6:04:32 PM12/10/09
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me <m...@mine.net> wrote in news:kno2i5t3a0egdrleb...@4ax.com:

It's not worth it. Even the lowly 80-400mm without a T/C produces better
images than the 70-200's with converters. I've compared them at length.

Rich

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Dec 10, 2009, 6:06:32 PM12/10/09
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fl...@apaflo.com (Floyd L. Davidson) wrote in
news:87638ey...@apaflo.com:

> RichA <rande...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>But of course a very expensive new 300mm f2.8. They really know how
>>to protect their profit margins.
>>
>>http://www.dpreview.com/news/0912/09121003nikkor300vrII.asp
>
> Nikon appears to know exactly what their customer base needs.
>

Do you know how many Nikon users:
1. Dislike the fact Nikon waits for so long to release products?
2. Dislike the fact Nikon seems to dictate to them what they should want?

Talk to a few of them. For all its attributes, the biggest complaint
against Nikon is the glacial pace of product releases and no, I'm not
taking about entry-level DSLR bodies, I'm talking about decent lenses.

Bristolian

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Dec 10, 2009, 7:00:12 PM12/10/09
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Rich wrote:

> Do you know how many Nikon users:
> 1. Dislike the fact Nikon waits for so long to release products?
> 2. Dislike the fact Nikon seems to dictate to them what they should want?
>
> Talk to a few of them. For all its attributes, the biggest complaint
> against Nikon is the glacial pace of product releases and no, I'm not
> taking about entry-level DSLR bodies, I'm talking about decent lenses.

The problem is, talking to just a few doesn't give a very representative
view of what the whole customer base thinks/wants. I'd be interested to
see the data from YOUR market research that supports your claim -
except, of course, this is just more of your inane drivel and you have
no intrinsic data to back it up.

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Regards


Bristolian

Bristolian

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Dec 10, 2009, 7:02:02 PM12/10/09
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Would that be focal length?

I'll lay money that you've never even handled either lens let alone
"compared them at length" - Jeez, you get worse by the day.

When I find the lifeguard that let you into the gene pool I'm gonna
drown him

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Regards


Bristolian

Bruce

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Dec 10, 2009, 7:11:29 PM12/10/09
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I think most Nikon users would prefer a cautious approach to new
releases rather than Canon's more hasty approach. Canon's quick-fire
introduction of new equipment is almost inevitably followed by the
need for careful recalibration and, in several cases, product recalls.

Give me something that works, out of the box, every time. Please.

My Nikon D700 and AF Nikkors have been faultless. However, my first
Canon EOS 5D needed the AF recalibrated once, the 24-105mm L lens
once, and the two recalibrated together before the AF became reliable.
The repair centre I used reckons that around 70% of Canon EOS bodies
they accept for repair have AF systems that would benefit from
recalibration, although the majority of Canon owners aren't aware of
the problem. They probably just blame their lenses for being unsharp!

My first 5D worked fine after final recalibration. My second only
needed doing once. Neither has never needed doing again. That
suggests that (1) the 5D is fairly robust, because my bodies get
plenty of rough handling but don't lose adjustment, and (2) the
problem is with the AF system as set-up at the factory.

Apparently the basic design of the Canon AF system means that small
calibration errors tend to lead to larger errors in focusing - this
was explained quite eloquently on here by David Kilpatrick some months
back and is well worth reading. The Nikon AF system is apparently
less sensitive to small errors in calibration.

Ironically, I now mostly use manual focus AIS lenses on the D700. It
is so like using a digital version of the F100. ;-)

nospam

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Dec 10, 2009, 7:30:18 PM12/10/09
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In article <Ip-dnct35MQd47zW...@giganews.com>, Rich
<no...@nowhere.com> wrote:

> > So just quit whining, buy a 70-200mm f/2.8 VR/II and put a TC-14e-II
> > behind it and start taking photos instead of posting this drivel ad
> > nauseum.
>
> It's not worth it. Even the lowly 80-400mm without a T/C produces better
> images than the 70-200's with converters. I've compared them at length.

bullshit you have.

nospam

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Dec 10, 2009, 7:33:40 PM12/10/09
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In article <Ip-dncp35MRl47zW...@giganews.com>, Rich
<no...@nowhere.com> wrote:

> Do you know how many Nikon users:
> 1. Dislike the fact Nikon waits for so long to release products?
> 2. Dislike the fact Nikon seems to dictate to them what they should want?

3. dislike your clueless posts?
4. would like it if you found another hobby?

Alan Browne

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Dec 10, 2009, 7:42:56 PM12/10/09
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Any user of any equipment from any company has gripes about it for a
number of reasons. I don't know of any pros who have been hurt by their
long term commitment to Nikon.

J. Clarke

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Dec 10, 2009, 8:21:34 PM12/10/09
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Do you know how many camera users of all varieties wish that you would find
another hobby besides playing with Rich?

Floyd L. Davidson

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Dec 10, 2009, 10:05:17 PM12/10/09
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I know the answers!!!!

1. 0 percent
2. 0 percent
3. 100 percent
4. 100 percent

Where do I pick up the prize?

Eric Stevens

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Dec 11, 2009, 2:22:52 AM12/11/09
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On Thu, 10 Dec 2009 17:06:32 -0600, Rich <no...@nowhere.com> wrote:

>fl...@apaflo.com (Floyd L. Davidson) wrote in
>news:87638ey...@apaflo.com:
>
>> RichA <rande...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>But of course a very expensive new 300mm f2.8. They really know how
>>>to protect their profit margins.
>>>
>>>http://www.dpreview.com/news/0912/09121003nikkor300vrII.asp
>>
>> Nikon appears to know exactly what their customer base needs.
>>
>
>Do you know how many Nikon users:
>1. Dislike the fact Nikon waits for so long to release products?
>2. Dislike the fact Nikon seems to dictate to them what they should want?

No, I don't. Do you?


>
>Talk to a few of them. For all its attributes, the biggest complaint
>against Nikon is the glacial pace of product releases and no, I'm not
>taking about entry-level DSLR bodies, I'm talking about decent lenses.

I've never had that problem. Most of the Nikon lenses I have bought
have always been decent. All you have to do is understand what you are
buying, and why.

Eric Stevens

Eric Stevens

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Dec 11, 2009, 2:23:54 AM12/11/09
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On Thu, 10 Dec 2009 18:05:17 -0900, fl...@apaflo.com (Floyd L.
Davidson) wrote:

>nospam <nos...@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>>In article <Ip-dncp35MRl47zW...@giganews.com>, Rich
>><no...@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Do you know how many Nikon users:
>>> 1. Dislike the fact Nikon waits for so long to release products?
>>> 2. Dislike the fact Nikon seems to dictate to them what they should want?
>>
>>3. dislike your clueless posts?
>>4. would like it if you found another hobby?
>
>I know the answers!!!!
>
> 1. 0 percent
> 2. 0 percent
> 3. 100 percent
> 4. 100 percent
>
>Where do I pick up the prize?

Try the handle at the north end. :-)

Eric Stevens

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