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Mark Blackwell

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Apr 14, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/14/99
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I have seen so really outstanding work lately that used some sort of process
that makes a photo look like an oil painting. Can anyone describe the
process? How do they do it? Is it something that is sprayed on the print
or brushed on? Is it done as a part of the development process or after.
Can it be done at home? Do you know a custom lab that might do this at a
reasonable price. Thanks for any help you might be. Mark

Danny Dorfman

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Apr 15, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/15/99
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How about inserting a sheet of thin half-transparent substance between the
shutter blades and the film? When you shoot this way, the light gets "smeared" a
little bit as it hits the film. I've seen something like that in our school...

Good luck!
Danny

Nicholas O. Lindan

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Apr 15, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/15/99
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Mark Blackwell wrote:
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> I have seen so really outstanding work lately that used some sort of
> process that makes a photo look like an oil painting. [What is it?]

There are methods in Fractal Design Painter (and maybe Photoshop) that
make your photograph look like a photograph of an oil painting - there
is no oil painting surface - you know: bumpy, translucent, shiny .... -
but the image is smeared and 3-d shadows are added to the 'brush
strokes'.

Then there is someone (er, some company) that does an ink jet to canvas
print that has some of the qualities of an oil painting, though it is
completely smooth and if you look closely you can see the ink jet drops.

I haven't seen a combination of the two, though I am sure it is
possible, and would probably make the most realistic faux oil.

But, for a $100 or so you can hire a starving art school student to turn
out a real oil of your photo for you. Probably cheaper than an Iris
print to canvas and someone spending two hours with photoshop and the
cost of an oil contact drum scan.

For a few hundred more there is an outfit in New York that turns out
faux oil paintings. They usually do Van Gogh sunflowers, but I am sure
they can turn out an oil of your photograph. In any style you want: Van
Gogh, Rembrant, Matisse, Degas, Lautrec - heck even a Jackson Polock.

Nick Lindan

HRphoto

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Apr 15, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/15/99
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>> I have seen so really outstanding work lately that used some sort of
>> process that makes a photo look like an oil painting. [What is it?]


McDonald makes a kit which allows the emulsion to be stripped off a print (RC
only), which then can be drymounted onto canvas, showing the texture. In
addition, art stores sell a variety of products which essentially are a clear,
laquer like substance, which can be brushed onto a print, keeping the brish
texture. If the contures of the subject matter are followed, the photograph
will indeed take on an oil painting like appearance. In addition, actual
acrylic or oil paints can be added over sections of the photograph to further
give a painting like appearance.

Heinz
HRphotography

Richard Knoppow

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Apr 15, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/15/99
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"Mark Blackwell" <av8r...@mindspring.com> wrote:

>I have seen so really outstanding work lately that used some sort of process

>that makes a photo look like an oil painting. Can anyone describe the
>process? How do they do it? Is it something that is sprayed on the print
>or brushed on? Is it done as a part of the development process or after.
>Can it be done at home? Do you know a custom lab that might do this at a
>reasonable price. Thanks for any help you might be. Mark
>
>

At one time, probably still, Seal sold a plastic material for
laminating over a print which had a brush-stroke texture. I've seen
this effect in prints by commercial portrait and wedding
photographers.
---
Richard Knoppow
Los Angeles, Ca.
dick...@ix.netcom.com

Nicholas O. Lindan

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Apr 15, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/15/99
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Richard Knoppow wrote:
> "Mark Blackwell" <av8r...@mindspring.com> wrote:
> >I have seen so really outstanding work lately that used some sort of
> >processthat makes a photo look like an oil painting. Can anyone
> >describe the process?

>At one time, probably still, Seal sold a plastic material for
>laminating over a print which had a brush-stroke texture. I've seen
>this effect in prints by commercial portrait and wedding
>photographers.

Instant "Dime-Store Art." You know, there was a book out of dime-store
art - full of velvet paintings and such things as 'The Man with no
Crotch,' the painter just couldn't paint a man's crotch and so the space
on the painting was blank. I think the book was available from the
"Chicken Boy" outfit: "Too weird to live, too strange to die." I wonder
if they are still around.

Nick Lindan

Russell

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Apr 15, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/15/99
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Bromoil . . . .

> > I have seen so really outstanding work lately that used some sort of
process
> > that makes a photo look like an oil painting. Can anyone describe the

F. Hayashi

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Apr 15, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/15/99
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On Thu, 15 Apr 1999, Richard Knoppow wrote:

> At one time, probably still, Seal sold a plastic material for
> laminating over a print which had a brush-stroke texture. I've seen
> this effect in prints by commercial portrait and wedding
> photographers.

I've heard of a process called Bromoil. Perhaps that's what this is. I
think ed romney's website mentions it.

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I just checked. it does.

http://www.edromney.com/bromoil.html

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Jim

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Apr 16, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/16/99
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Don't know a lab that will this do this, but I remember reading about a
technique to achieve this appearance. It involved printing through a sheet
of glass that had been smeared with Vaseline and then a brush used to create
the appearance of brush strokes. Print paper goes underneath. Then the
exposure is made. Never tried it myself, but the material I had read showed
the results and it was impressive.

Jim http://userweb.interactive.net/~jjpene/index.htm

Danny Dorfman wrote in message <3715D437...@orbotech.co.il>...


>How about inserting a sheet of thin half-transparent substance between the
>shutter blades and the film? When you shoot this way, the light gets
"smeared" a
>little bit as it hits the film. I've seen something like that in our
school...
>
>Good luck!
>Danny
>

KSchnell4

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Apr 21, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/21/99
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Are you talking about a handtinted Black and White photo?

Richard Knoppow

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Apr 21, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/21/99
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ksch...@aol.com (KSchnell4) wrote:

>Are you talking about a handtinted Black and White photo?

Another folowup to this thread. I saw some display prints at a
portrait photographers today. They were mounted on canvas on
stretchers, just oil paintings. I could't examine them really closely
but they appeared to be RC paper emulsion stripped off the paper
backing and dry mounted to the canvas under enough pressure for the
canvas texture to show through the surface. They did not have the
brush-stroke texture that the laminated mounting can produce.

Nicholas O. Lindan

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Apr 21, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/21/99
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Richard Knoppow wrote:

> Another folowup to this thread. I saw some display prints at a
> portrait photographers today. They were mounted on canvas on
> stretchers, just oil paintings. I could't examine them really closely
> but they appeared to be RC paper emulsion stripped off the paper
> backing and dry mounted to the canvas under enough pressure for the
> canvas texture to show through the surface. They did not have the
> brush-stroke texture that the laminated mounting can produce.

I saw the same thing. Looks great to my eye. The shop owner said it
was ink-jet, but he could easily be wrong: some rep came in and just
hung it on the wall and handed the owner a fistfull of order forms.

I have a shot I'd like to try with this method.

Nick Lindan

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