dizzyizzy wrote: > We have a beautiful smooth-haired lurcher bitch about 18 months old.
A DOG Is A Dog; As A KAT Is A KAT; As A BIRDY Is A BIRDY; As A CHILD IS A CHILD; As A SP-HOWES Is a SP-HOWES.
ALL Critters Only Respond In PREDICTABLE INNATE NORMAL NATURAL INSTINCTIVE REFLEXIVE Ways To Situations And Circumstances Of Their Environment Which We Create For Them.
> She is has a lovely temperament, very friendly and playful.
The Amazing Puppy Wizard SEZ "dogs kats kids birdies and ladies just wanna have FUN.
> There is one problem that is a little upsetting.
ALL TEMPERAMENT And BEHAVIOR PROBLEMS ARE CAUSED BY MISHANDLING.
> When she has just woken up, she will snap if we go to stroke her,
YOUR DOG DOESN'T TRUST YOU.
> although she never actually bites.
Perhaps she's not THAT afraid of you YET.
> She is allowed on the furniture and often sleeps > curled up next to us.
That's IRRELEVENT.
> Once she has snapped she is very edgy and views > everyone with suspicion.
PERHAPS you're gettin it BACKWARDS? Your dog SNAPS on accHOWENT of SHE DON'T TRUST YOU. When she does snap, she FEARS RETALIATION.
> This has only really been happening in the last couple of months
Your dog is maturing...
>(we have had her for 6 months),
The honeymoon is OVER.
> about the time another dog hurt her while playing.
THAT'S IRRELEVENT. Dogs DO NOT FEAR and ATTACK THEIR OWNERS on accHOWENT of they're HURT or AFRAID of STUFF.
They FEAR their owners on accHOWENT of they're MISHANDLED.
> We got her at one year old and we don't know much > about her background
THAT'S IRRELEVENT.
> other than she has been a stray but we don't know > for how long or if she was abused.
THAT'S IRRELEVENT.
> I suppose the obvious prevention is > to not allow her to sleep on the furniture
THE DOG AIN'T ATTACKIN THE FURNITURE.
> but I would like to understand why she is doing this
Your dog LIVES IN FEAR on accHOWENT of YOU MISHANDLE HER.
> as most of the time she is gentle and > it is lovely having her curled next to us.
The EXXXPERTS you're askin for ADVICE are LYING DOG ABUSING PUNK THUG COWARD MENTAL CASES who HURT INTIMDIATE and MURDER dogs like you got, dizzyizzy.
The Amazing Puppy Wizard sez:
You GET The Critter You TRAINED
"The Methods, Principles, And Philosophy Of Behavior Never Change, Or They'd Not Be Scientific And Would Not Obtain Consistent, Reliable, Fast, Effective Results For All Handler's And All Dogs, In ALL Fields And ALL Utilities ALL OVER THE WHOLE WILD WORLD NEARLY INSTANTLY, As Taught In Your FREE Copy Of The Puppy Wizard's FREE WWW Wits' End Dog Training Method Manual," The Puppy Wizard. <{} ; ~ ) > \
Damn The Descartean War of "Nature Vs Nurture." We Teach By HOWER Words And Actions And GET BACK What We TAUGHT.
In The Problem Animal Behavior BUSINESS FAILURE MEANS DEATH. SAME SAME SAME SAME, For The Problem Child Behavior BUSINESS.
Here's your FREE copy of The Amazing Puppy Wizard's FREE WWW Wits' End Dog Training Method Manual: http://makeashorterlink.com/?G34D2527A
Just ASK The Amazing Puppy Wizard if you need any additional FREE heelp. There's NO arbritrary INFORMATION in your FREE copy of The Amazing Puppy Wizard's FREE WWW Wits' End Dog Training Method Manual so study it well and do and follow ALL the EXXXERCISES AS INSTRUCTED... it's a PRECISE SCIENCE or it COULDN'T GET 100% CONSISTENT NEARLY INSTANT SUCCESS for all handlers and all dogs in all fields or utilities and behaviors all over the Whole Wild World <{) ; ~ ) >
bill wrote: > Rocky wrote: > > dizzyizzy said in rec.pets.dogs.behavior:
> >>This has only really been happening in the last couple of > >>months (we have had her for 6 months), about the time > >>another dog hurt her while playing.
THAT'S IRRELEVENT.
> > Have you ruled out lingering physical issues?
THAT'S GOT NUTHIN TO DO WITH HOWE COME THE DOG FEARS AND MISTRUSTS HIS OWNER. HOWER PAL matty is a lying dog abusing punk thug coward and active long term acute incurable MENTAL CASE who HURTS and INTIMIDATES dogs and LIES abHOWET IT like the rest of these dog abusing mental cases.
> > She may not snap when she's awake because she's better able > > to prepare herself for physical contact.
THAT'S INSANE. THE PROBLEM IS THE DOG IS AFRAID.
> Or she may be suffering from a form of 'Sudden Onset Rage Syndrome'
You mean FEAR AGGRESSION, billy.
> like that exhibited in Bull Terriers and, I believe, Cocker Spaniels.
And Springers when they're AFRAID from bein locked in boxes and jerked choked shocked bribed and intimidated according to traditinal trainin methods as taught by the MENTAL CASES who post here abHOWETS.
LIKE YOURSELF, billy.
> "The most serious behavioral problem for Bull Terriers is > called "Sudden Onset Rage Syndrome."
You mean FEAR AGGESSION from ABUSE BY MISHANDLING, billy.
> This is when a dog (usually who just awoke from sleeping)
CITES PLEASE? Sleepin got NUTHIN to do with "sudden rage syndrome."
> turns into a mean and dangerous dog for moments.
On accHOWENT of they're AFRAID.
> When the episode is over, the dog is usually dazed and tends > not to appear to have memory of the event.
UNLIKE the original posters dog, billy: "Once she has snapped she is very edgy and views everyone with suspicion."
> The kindest thing to do
Well billy, you're the kindly sort, ain't you.
> in these cases is to euthanize the dog."
You mean MURDER the dog on accHOWENT of you're a dog abusing punk thug coward mental case, eh billy?
<snip IDIOCY>
> Bill
It don't matter HOWE you MURDER a dog, billy, it only matters that you'll MURDER a dog JUST LIKE HOWE any ETHICKAL DOG MURDERER (e.g. ETHICKAL BREEDER) will do when AFRAID of their puppy's REPUTATION RUINING their good kennel name (like YOURS, billy) or PROVOKED and runs HOWETA ideas and information (like YOURSELF, billy) and resorts to FEAR INTIMDIATION and MURDER and BLAMES the BREED for being AFRAID of abuse or the handler for not bein abusive enough AS QUOTED in your very own written words, eh billy?:
I don't know how to write this. I just know as a breeder I have to.
We pride ourselves with being selective with our choices when it comes to finding good homes for our puppies. The questions we ask, reading between the lines, listening to innuendoes, checking out resources, on and on.
We invest a lot of time, energy, and emotions in this process of placing our puppies. Then why does it sometimes go so wrong? Am./Can Ch. Cam's
Jack Hammer, a three and a half year old Bouvier, was brutally murdered
by his owner, John Slawinski. Those of you who know me know that I have kept in contact with John and with Jack for the past few years since Jack was a puppy.
I showed Jack to both his championships. At his first show, just six months old, Jack won Best Of Winners at our regional Specialty here in E. Lansing, Michigan. Jack would come to my house when John would go on vacation. I would groom Jack, often. Yes, I kept tabs on this lovely dog but one day last week John, in a drunken rage, took his anger out on his dog, my Jack, and in the end John shot Jack.
I have no idea how much Jack suffered.
I have to stop myself from imagining the terror.
Everyone who reads this knows my pain, knows how much this hurts.
I am not writing this for your sympathy. I am writing this because I do believe that at some time in the future John Slawinski will be contacting other Bouvier breeders for another dog. My hope is that you, the caretakers of our breed, will recognize his name if he calls you, remember his murderous deed, and tell him no (no is too nice a word).
You need to be warned. He will tell you whatever he thinks you want to hear. He is a master at manipulating, embellishing, and changing the truth.
Again, his name is John Slawinski. He lives in Lansing, Michigan. He has owned Bouviers for years. He tells a good story. He brutally killed his
dog, Champion Cam's Jack Hammer, the last week of October 2002, during a drunken rage.
Please post and cross-post. I don't belong to a list so if someone wants to post it on the list I would greatly appreciate it. Get this email out to anyone that may have puppies for sale now or in the future. Thanks for your help.
Date: 15 Mar 2005 17:20:17 -0800 Subject: Re: Dog having Nervous Breakdown?
Tee wrote: > "lexwild1" <lexwi...@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:d17tuq$d06$1@domitilla.aioe.org... > >A relative has a one-year-old Sheltie, kind of high=strung, but a nice > >dog. > > Typical Sheltie, gotten from a reputable breeder, obedience
classes, etc.
> > They recently got a kitten. Cat liked dog, dog liked cat. All was fine, > > until a week ago the dog stopped eating, laid down and wouldn't get
up,
> > refused to even walk. > > They took him to a vet, who ruled out any physical problem. The vet
> > he > > was reacting to the presence of the kitten, in other words, a "nervous > > breakdown". He's on Valium and doing OK. > > Has anyone ever heard of such a thing? > No, I haven't and I'd recommend going to another vet. When a normally > active dog goes off food and exercise there's almost always a medical > problem. > Now if the vet is referring to stress then yes, it can cause lack of > appetite, sometimes lack of desire to do normal things, but it goes away > after a few days and generally sets in immediately after something major. > If the dog was fine with the kitten for several days before doing this then > I'd doubt the stress factor. > -- > Tara
You MURDERED your own DEAD DOG Summer.
"Tending To Agree With The Positive Reinforcement Method"?
> I tend to agree with the positive reinforcement > method.
Oh, that's nice. I tend to think people who tend to agree with positive reinforcement methods tend to be pulling our chains... That's what I tend to think, based on my experience working with people who tend to agree with positive reinforcement who TEND TO hurt their dogs when their tendencies to use positive methods are outweighed by their tendencies to run out of information or intellect and TEND to get frustrated and TEND NOT to do the things they TEND TO believe are right, when they TEND to be frustrated, or TEND to be at a loss for INTELLECT, and TEND TO resort to violence because they TEND to be shy on BRAINS... I TEND TO view those folks as hypocrites, that's what I TEND to do because I just happen to TEND to be HONEST,
> IMO, shock collars should be used only after normal > obedience training methods have failed.
If your NORMAL obedience training TENDED to properly train dogs, there would be a TENDENCY to have well trained dogs. But that's not the case, becasuse NORMAL obedience training TENDS to provoke, intimidate, and confound your dog and inhibit his ability to think and learn to want to work and think and learn... SEE?
That's what I TEND to think about NORMAL obedience training which TENDS to FAIL because it TENDS to resort to VIOLENCE instead of TENDING TOWARDS THE MOST EFFECTIVE SCIENTIFIC METHODS AVAILABLE.
> It just bothers me to imagine shocking my dog, even > at a very low frequency.
It bothers me less to think of shocking the dog than thinking about what punishment and confrontation can do to a dog's temperament. That's what I tend to think based on my thirty eight years professional experience training dogs.
> I will definitely admit that there are many dogs who > either can't or won't benefit from training without > such things as e-collars.
Is that based on your thirty eight years of experience specializing in temperament and behavior problems and protection training in giant breed dogs? Or is that based on your TENDANCY to believe incompetent dog abusing Thugs who tell you they TEND to get excellent results from HURTING dogs to train them because they TEND NOT TO be intelligent enough to outwit the cunning of the domestic puppy dog???
OR IS IT BASED ON YOUR TENDENCY TO MURDER YOUR OWN DEAD DOG Summer?
> I just hope its a last-resort, not a first.
And I just hope you figure out why your pals here who hurt dogs to train them TEND to claim they have me in their killfiles, because they TEND NOT TO be able to answer my questions in good conscience...That's what they TEND to do around here because our lying dog abusing Thugs TEND to be INCOMPETENT, IMMORAL, UNETHICAL, UNPRINCIPLED, DOG ABUSING COWARDS.
Like yourself.
That's what I tend to think.
Your pal, Jerry "The PHONY," Howe. j;~} The Amazing Puppy Wizard. <{) ; ~ ) >
<ThePuppyWiz...@EarthLink.Net> Date: Thu, 07 Oct 2004 17:12:11 GMT Local: Thurs, Oct 7 2004 10:12 am
Subject: "I'm Shocked That I Shocked" tara o. aka tee, NC Boxer Rescue Abuse
HOWEDY People
Here's WON of HOWER MENTAL CASES hurtin dogs and lying abHOWET it again.
> Due to someone reprimanding Jar-Jar & the word > "rescue" in the post, I decided to read down and see > what he was spewing now. I was able to learn that > besides choking, pinching, crating, abusing and > murdering my dog, I also shocked her. I must be > suffering from amnesia.
> Can someone point me to a post where I said > I shocked my dog, or any dog, or that I even > know *how* to use an e-collar....assuming I had one > which must have been stolen at the same time I lost > my memory.
> One would think Jerry would be happy with the > "murder" part and all my other training sins but > evidently not. > -- > Tara
HOWEDY tara o.,
You didn't HURT INTIMIDATE and MURFDER your own DEAD DOG Summer:
Date: 2003-04-28 18:09:04 PST
> "Tara O." wrote:
> > Labs are a breed that are normally trained for > > field work with ear pinches, e-collars and other > > forms of physical interaction without making them > > fearful or aggressive.
==============
From: Tara O. (tara29...@yahoo.com) Subject: Re: Dane hyper when passing other dogs Date: 2001-04-21 12:07:54 PST
I think its pertinent to mention that I've never had any dogs who exhibited signs of aggression or were in any way, shape, or form resistent to whatever "training" I did with them.
I would not feel comfortable relying on my past experience or a book to train a dog to stop biting, snapping or growling. -- Tara O.
===================
From: Tara O. (tara29...@yahoo.com) Subject: Re: Canine Behaviors For Dummies Date: 2001-06-11 19:42:23 PST
> I cant seem to understand why people believe prong > collars are cruel and inhumane. They do nothing more > than pinch, getting the attention of the animal.
> Choke collars, on the other hand, do permanent > damage. They bruise the esophagus.
> Shock collars will eventually destroy nerve endings, > much the same as electric fencing.
Joshua, you have just reopened a can of worms that can quickly cause infestation here lol -- Tara O.
===============
From: Tara O. (tara29...@yahoo.com) Subject: Re: jerry howe Date: 2001-04-04 11:58:06 PST
> People are tired of being abused and insulted simply > for saying they use a prong collar, or a choke > collar, or an e-collar, or a crate, etc. If you want > to LEARN more about dog training and dog behavior, > then listen to what they have to say, too.
"I've never not listened to what people say here. I use a crate, am about to begin with a choke collar, I'm not the bad guy here." tara o.
======================
From: Tara O. (tara29...@yahoo.com) Subject: Re: Electronic Training Collars Date: 2001-05-11 17:29:33 PST
""Twzl, Sligo and Roy Happy Together"" wrote
> BTW, this is one of the frequent topics on obedience > email lists. When people say that they haven't used > corrections, it turns out that they feel that if > they do it, it's not a real correction. :)
That makes sense in a weird sort of way. I don't honestly think that its humanly possible to train anyone or anything without correction. Its human nature to say 'no' or to stop a behavior by doing something. I used a tin can with coins to correct Summer's bad puppy behaviors and the cold shoulder to correct her other less desirable behaviors. I have said 'no' so many times that I probably sound like a broken record. Amie can attest to that lol.
It seems to me that some people are automatically equating the term correction with punishment. I guess they can go hand in hand since my tin can wasn't something Summer liked. My ignoring her when she's misbehaving is also something she doesn't like. Therefore it can be viewed as punishment? And that term is 100% negative.
Maybe if more people saw it as correction and not the total negative, they'd be less
...
> > There is > > one problem that is a little upsetting. When she has just woken up, > > she will snap if we go to stroke her, although she never actually > > bites.
> Note that I am not a trainer or a vet,
LikeWIZE NOTE that you ARE a proven liar and dog abuser punk thug coward mental case, marcel.
> but one possibility is that she just wakes up slowly > and isn't quite sure what is around her,
You mean she's AFRAID, marcel the imbecile idiot liar dog abuser coward mental case phd psychoclHOWEN?
> thus reacts with a snap.
Oh? You mean kinda like HOWE your own dog did when he bit your Mrs. on accHOWENT of you ABUSE him, marcel?
CuriHOWES ain't it, HOWE most of HOWER dog lover's dogs GOT THE SAME SAME SAME SAME PROBLEM for the SAME SAME SAME SAME REASON, eh marcel the idiot imbecile liar phd psychoclHOWEN?
BWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAHAHAHHAHHAAAAA!!!
HERE'S HOWE COME:
Date: 15 Mar 2005 17:20:17 -0800 Subject: Re: Dog having Nervous Breakdown?
Tee wrote: > "lexwild1" <lexwi...@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:d17tuq$d06$1@domitilla.aioe.org... > >A relative has a one-year-old Sheltie, kind of high=strung, but a nice > >dog. > > Typical Sheltie, gotten from a reputable breeder, obedience
classes, etc.
> > They recently got a kitten. Cat liked dog, dog liked cat. All was fine, > > until a week ago the dog stopped eating, laid down and wouldn't get
up,
> > refused to even walk. > > They took him to a vet, who ruled out any physical problem. The vet
> > he > > was reacting to the presence of the kitten, in other words, a "nervous > > breakdown". He's on Valium and doing OK. > > Has anyone ever heard of such a thing? > No, I haven't and I'd recommend going to another vet. When a normally > active dog goes off food and exercise there's almost always a medical > problem. > Now if the vet is referring to stress then yes, it can cause lack of > appetite, sometimes lack of desire to do normal things, but it goes away > after a few days and generally sets in immediately after something major. > If the dog was fine with the kitten for several days before doing this then > I'd doubt the stress factor. > -- > Tara
You MURDERED your own DEAD DOG Summer.
"Tending To Agree With The Positive Reinforcement Method"?
> I tend to agree with the positive reinforcement > method.
Oh, that's nice. I tend to think people who tend to agree with positive reinforcement methods tend to be pulling our chains... That's what I tend to think, based on my experience working with people who tend to agree with positive reinforcement who TEND TO hurt their dogs when their tendencies to use positive methods are outweighed by their tendencies to run out of information or intellect and TEND to get frustrated and TEND NOT to do the things they TEND TO believe are right, when they TEND to be frustrated, or TEND to be at a loss for INTELLECT, and TEND TO resort to violence because they TEND to be shy on BRAINS... I TEND TO view those folks as hypocrites, that's what I TEND to do because I just happen to TEND to be HONEST,
> IMO, shock collars should be used only after normal > obedience training methods have failed.
If your NORMAL obedience training TENDED to properly train dogs, there would be a TENDENCY to have well trained dogs. But that's not the case, becasuse NORMAL obedience training TENDS to provoke, intimidate, and confound your dog and inhibit his ability to think and learn to want to work and think and learn... SEE?
That's what I TEND to think about NORMAL obedience training which TENDS to FAIL because it TENDS to resort to VIOLENCE instead of TENDING TOWARDS THE MOST EFFECTIVE SCIENTIFIC METHODS AVAILABLE.
> It just bothers me to imagine shocking my dog, even > at a very low frequency.
It bothers me less to think of shocking the dog than thinking about what punishment and confrontation can do to a dog's temperament. That's what I tend to think based on my thirty eight years professional experience training dogs.
> I will definitely admit that there are many dogs who > either can't or won't benefit from training without > such things as e-collars.
Is that based on your thirty eight years of experience specializing in temperament and behavior problems and protection training in giant breed dogs? Or is that based on your TENDANCY to believe incompetent dog abusing Thugs who tell you they TEND to get excellent results from HURTING dogs to train them because they TEND NOT TO be intelligent enough to outwit the cunning of the domestic puppy dog???
OR IS IT BASED ON YOUR TENDENCY TO MURDER YOUR OWN DEAD DOG Summer?
> I just hope its a last-resort, not a first.
And I just hope you figure out why your pals here who hurt dogs to train them TEND to claim they have me in their killfiles, because they TEND NOT TO be able to answer my questions in good conscience...That's what they TEND to do around here because our lying dog abusing Thugs TEND to be INCOMPETENT, IMMORAL, UNETHICAL, UNPRINCIPLED, DOG ABUSING COWARDS.
Like yourself.
That's what I tend to think.
Your pal, Jerry "The PHONY," Howe. j;~} The Amazing Puppy Wizard. <{) ; ~ ) >
<ThePuppyWiz...@EarthLink.Net> Date: Thu, 07 Oct 2004 17:12:11 GMT Local: Thurs, Oct 7 2004 10:12 am
Subject: "I'm Shocked That I Shocked" tara o. aka tee, NC Boxer Rescue Abuse
HOWEDY People
Here's WON of HOWER MENTAL CASES hurtin dogs and lying abHOWET it again.
> Due to someone reprimanding Jar-Jar & the word > "rescue" in the post, I decided to read down and see > what he was spewing now. I was able to learn that > besides choking, pinching, crating, abusing and > murdering my dog, I also shocked her. I must be > suffering from amnesia.
> Can someone point me to a post where I said > I shocked my dog, or any dog, or that I even > know *how* to use an e-collar....assuming I had one > which must have been stolen at the same time I lost > my memory.
> One would think Jerry would be happy with the > "murder" part and all my other training sins but > evidently not. > -- > Tara
HOWEDY tara o.,
You didn't HURT INTIMIDATE and MURFDER your own DEAD DOG Summer:
Date: 2003-04-28 18:09:04 PST
> "Tara O." wrote:
> > Labs are a breed that are normally trained for > > field work with ear pinches, e-collars and other > > forms of physical interaction without making them > > fearful or aggressive.
==============
From: Tara O. (tara29...@yahoo.com) Subject: Re: Dane hyper when passing other dogs Date: 2001-04-21 12:07:54 PST
I think its pertinent to mention that I've never had any dogs who exhibited signs of aggression or were in any way, shape, or form resistent to whatever "training" I did with them.
I would not feel comfortable relying on my past experience or a book to train a dog to stop biting, snapping or growling. -- Tara O.
===================
From: Tara O. (tara29...@yahoo.com) Subject: Re: Canine Behaviors For Dummies Date: 2001-06-11 19:42:23 PST
> I cant seem to understand why people believe prong > collars are cruel and inhumane. They do nothing more > than pinch, getting the attention of the animal.
> Choke collars, on the other hand, do permanent > damage. They bruise the esophagus.
> Shock collars will eventually destroy nerve endings, > much the same as electric fencing.
Joshua, you have just reopened a can of worms that can quickly cause infestation here lol -- Tara O.
===============
From: Tara O. (tara29...@yahoo.com) Subject: Re: jerry howe Date: 2001-04-04 11:58:06 PST
> People are tired of being abused and insulted simply > for saying they use a prong collar, or a choke > collar, or an e-collar, or a crate, etc. If you want > to LEARN more about dog training and dog behavior, > then listen to what they have to say, too.
"I've never not listened to what people say here. I use a crate, am about to begin with a choke collar, I'm not the bad guy here." tara o.
======================
From: Tara O. (tara29...@yahoo.com) Subject: Re: Electronic Training Collars Date: 2001-05-11 17:29:33 PST
""Twzl, Sligo and Roy Happy Together"" wrote
> BTW, this is one of the frequent topics on obedience > email lists. When people say
...
Spot wrote: > Or she could just be sensible and let the dog alone > till she is fully awake.
THAT'S SHEER IDIOCY, spot. The dog is AFRAID and NEEDS HEELP.
> Barney used to snap if you startled him while sleeping
Your dogs snap at you bums on accHOWENT of you CHOKE and SHOCK and INTIMIDATE and BRIBE and lock them in boxes and deny and withhold attention affection and so called rewards.
> and I certainly never considered putting him to sleep.
PERHAPS THAT'S on accHOWENT of you ENJOY HURTIN HIM?
> Celeste
LUCKY THING your pal bill is a DOG LOVER or someWON might suggest he's a dog abusing punk thug coward mental case like the other cretins like tara o. aka tee who MURDERED her own DEAD DOG Summer for the SAME SAME SAME SAME REASON?
> > Rocky wrote: > > > dizzyizzy said in rec.pets.dogs.behavior:
> > >>This has only really been happening in the last couple of > > >>months (we have had her for 6 months), about the time > > >>another dog hurt her while playing.
> > > Have you ruled out lingering physical issues? She may > > > not snap when she's awake because she's better able to > > > prepare herself for physical contact.
> > Or she may be suffering from a form of 'Sudden Onset Rage > > Syndrome' like that exhibited in Bull Terriers and, I > > believe, Cocker Spaniels.
> > "The most serious behavioral problem for Bull Terriers is > > called "Sudden Onset Rage Syndrome." This is when a dog > > (usually who just awoke from sleeping) turns into a mean > > and dangerous dog for moments. When the episode is over, > > the dog is usually dazed and tends not to appear to > > have memory of the event. The kindest thing to do in these > > cases is to euthanize the dog." from: > > http://www.thebullterrier.com/btgendis.shtml
> > Bill
BWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAHAHAHHAHHAAAAA!!!
"Tending To Agree With The Positive Reinforcement Method"?
> I tend to agree with the positive reinforcement > method.
Oh, that's nice. I tend to think people who tend to agree with positive reinforcement methods tend to be pulling our chains... That's what I tend to think, based on my experience working with people who tend to agree with positive reinforcement who TEND TO hurt their dogs when their tendencies to use positive methods are outweighed by their tendencies to run out of information or intellect and TEND to get frustrated and TEND NOT to do the things they TEND TO believe are right, when they TEND to be frustrated, or TEND to be at a loss for INTELLECT, and TEND TO resort to violence because they TEND to be shy on BRAINS... I TEND TO view those folks as hypocrites, that's what I TEND to do because I just happen to TEND to be HONEST,
> IMO, shock collars should be used only after normal > obedience training methods have failed.
If your NORMAL obedience training TENDED to properly train dogs, there would be a TENDENCY to have well trained dogs. But that's not the case, becasuse NORMAL obedience training TENDS to provoke, intimidate, and confound your dog and inhibit his ability to think and learn to want to work and think and learn... SEE?
That's what I TEND to think about NORMAL obedience training which TENDS to FAIL because it TENDS to resort to VIOLENCE instead of TENDING TOWARDS THE MOST EFFECTIVE SCIENTIFIC METHODS AVAILABLE.
> It just bothers me to imagine shocking my dog, even > at a very low frequency.
It bothers me less to think of shocking the dog than thinking about what punishment and confrontation can do to a dog's temperament. That's what I tend to think based on my thirty eight years professional experience training dogs.
> I will definitely admit that there are many dogs who > either can't or won't benefit from training without > such things as e-collars.
Is that based on your thirty eight years of experience specializing in temperament and behavior problems and protection training in giant breed dogs? Or is that based on your TENDANCY to believe incompetent dog abusing Thugs who tell you they TEND to get excellent results from HURTING dogs to train them because they TEND NOT TO be intelligent enough to outwit the cunning of the domestic puppy dog???
OR IS IT BASED ON YOUR TENDENCY TO MURDER YOUR OWN DEAD DOG Summer?
> I just hope its a last-resort, not a first.
And I just hope you figure out why your pals here who hurt dogs to train them TEND to claim they have me in their killfiles, because they TEND NOT TO be able to answer my questions in good conscience...That's what they TEND to do around here because our lying dog abusing Thugs TEND to be INCOMPETENT, IMMORAL, UNETHICAL, UNPRINCIPLED, DOG ABUSING COWARDS.
Like yourself.
That's what I tend to think.
Your pal, Jerry "The PHONY," Howe. j;~} The Amazing Puppy Wizard. <{) ; ~ ) >
<ThePuppyWiz...@EarthLink.Net> Date: Thu, 07 Oct 2004 17:12:11 GMT Local: Thurs, Oct 7 2004 10:12 am
Subject: "I'm Shocked That I Shocked" tara o. aka tee, NC Boxer Rescue Abuse
HOWEDY People
Here's WON of HOWER MENTAL CASES hurtin dogs and lying abHOWET it again.
> Due to someone reprimanding Jar-Jar & the word > "rescue" in the post, I decided to read down and see > what he was spewing now. I was able to learn that > besides choking, pinching, crating, abusing and > murdering my dog, I also shocked her. I must be > suffering from amnesia.
> Can someone point me to a post where I said > I shocked my dog, or any dog, or that I even > know *how* to use an e-collar....assuming I had one > which must have been stolen at the same time I lost > my memory.
> One would think Jerry would be happy with the > "murder" part and all my other training sins but > evidently not. > -- > Tara
HOWEDY tara o.,
You didn't HURT INTIMIDATE and MURFDER your own DEAD DOG Summer:
Date: 2003-04-28 18:09:04 PST
> "Tara O." wrote:
> > Labs are a breed that are normally trained for > > field work with ear pinches, e-collars and other > > forms of physical interaction without making them > > fearful or aggressive.
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From: Tara O. (tara29...@yahoo.com) Subject: Re: Dane hyper when passing other dogs Date: 2001-04-21 12:07:54 PST
I think its pertinent to mention that I've never had any dogs who exhibited signs of aggression or were in any way, shape, or form resistent to whatever "training" I did with them.
I would not feel comfortable relying on my past experience or a book to train a dog to stop biting, snapping or growling. -- Tara O.
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From: Tara O. (tara29...@yahoo.com) Subject: Re: Canine Behaviors For Dummies Date: 2001-06-11 19:42:23 PST
> I cant seem to understand why people believe prong > collars are cruel and inhumane. They do nothing more > than pinch, getting the attention of the animal.
> Choke collars, on the other hand, do permanent > damage. They bruise the esophagus.
> Shock collars will eventually destroy nerve endings, > much the same as electric fencing.
Joshua, you have just reopened a can of worms that can quickly cause infestation here lol -- Tara O.
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From: Tara O. (tara29...@yahoo.com) Subject: Re: jerry howe Date: 2001-04-04 11:58:06 PST
> People are tired of being abused and insulted simply > for saying they use a prong collar, or a choke > collar, or an e-collar, or a crate, etc. If you want > to LEARN more about dog training and dog behavior, > then listen to what they have to say, too.
"I've never not listened to what people say here. I use a crate, am about to begin with a choke collar, I'm not the bad guy here." tara o.
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From: Tara O. (tara29...@yahoo.com) Subject: Re: Electronic Training Collars Date: 2001-05-11 17:29:33 PST
""Twzl, Sligo and Roy Happy Together"" wrote
> BTW, this is one of the frequent topics on obedience > email lists. When people say that they haven't used > corrections, it turns out that they feel that if > they do it, it's not a real correction. :)
That makes sense in a weird sort of way. I don't honestly think that its humanly possible to train anyone or anything without correction. Its human nature to say 'no' or to stop a behavior by doing something. I used a tin can with coins to correct Summer's bad puppy behaviors and the cold shoulder to correct her other
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