PetSafe Stubborn Dog Collar
Joe Boxer
I have used the PetSafe radio fence with my Lab, and it worked well at
first. But he eventually figured it out, and decided that it was worth
the penalty to take a run. I subsequently moved from the ultra light
collar to the regular, and again, it worked well for a while. He will
now run through it as well.
So I am now wondering, should I buy the "Stubborn Dog" collar, or will
he also break that as well. He is not really stubborn - he is smart
and easy to train. The problem is he figures it is worth it to "take a
run".
Any feedback from others with this collar would be appreciated.
Thanks
MOMPEAGRAM
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>>>> "Ken G." <good...@webtv.net> wrote in message
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>>> Try this.
>>> It works for my multiple dog situation
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>> Try what???
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@aol.com Rita Ä Berkowitz
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> I have used the PetSafe radio fence with my Lab, and it worked well at
> first. But he eventually figured it out, and decided that it was worth
> the penalty to take a run. I subsequently moved from the ultra light
> collar to the regular, and again, it worked well for a while. He will
> now run through it as well.
>
> So I am now wondering, should I buy the "Stubborn Dog" collar, or will
> he also break that as well. He is not really stubborn - he is smart
> and easy to train. The problem is he figures it is worth it to "take a
> run".
You might want to try the Petsafe PRT-1200 as it uses a remote control and
has 8 settings. I had a problem with my lab jumping a 4' fence when the
neighbor had their dog out. I pretty much broke him of the habit of going
over the first day. The problem is you have to watch the dog while he's out
and push the button when you know he is doing something he's not supposed to
do. This collar won't work with any other system as it is on 27.255 Mhz.
Here is a link to one, but you should pick up a new one on eBay for about
$100 USD. I bought mine on eBay.
http://www.k9electronics.com/detail.aspx_Q_ID_E_204898
For me, this system is better than the invisible fence system since I don't
mind the dog running the fence line just as long as he's on my side. You'll
find the dog quickly learns his boundaries and you won't need the collar
that much. Good luck.
Rita
@aol.com Rita Ä Berkowitz
> Or better yet... Real fences are a novel idea. Radio Fences are infamous
> for not holding dogs.
Yes, but the problem with a "real" fence, which I have is any dog with any
intelligence will find a way to go over or under it. The Stubborn Dog
(Sport Hunter) Collar is a lifesaver in preventing my dog from going over my
fence. Labs are smart, so you have to use what works.
Rita
Ken G.
dano
you can pee into a spray bottle (your urine),
walk the perimeters marking. If they get anything, they get
smell, and marking territory. Your's will stay inside it, and strays
will understand they are intruding.
*OR*, spend a lot of money, shock your dog, and watch him
break anyhow!
YourConscience
Subject: Re: My Great Dane = Great fence jumper
My Aussie could get over my 4 foot fence easily -
but he never has because he doesn't *want* to.
He'd never leave his best buddy - my old girl dog,
Murphy.
Still, I wouldn't trust this arrangement for when I
wasn't home.
I guess there aren't any easy answers, Sky.
--
--Matt. Rocky's a Dog.
From: Rocky (australian.sheph...@cadvision.com)
Subject: Re: runaway dog
Date: 2001-03-10 08:48:07 PST
Momi...@webtv.net (misty) wrote in
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>Peach lives in the house with us.
That's good news; from your original post, it sounded
to me that she might be an outside dog. That's why I
asked for more information.
>I'm talking about when we
>let her outside to go the bathroom.
You say in a later post that she won't eliminate while she's on
leash. What about a long line or a Flexi-Leash? It might take
some perseverance on your part, and a lot of time with her
outside, but eventually she'll have to go. When she does, lots
of praise and treats are in order.
>Her pup learned to stay in the yard with the
>radio collar but Peach just wants to run.
That's one of the reasons I don't like electronic fences.
Every dog is different and she's learned that the positive
punishment of getting past the "barrier" is a small price
to pay for the greater reward (positive reinforcement) of
being out.
> Now the electronic fence is keeping her from coming home.
Maybe I missed it, but is there a reason that
you can't put up a real fence?
> --Matt. Rocky's a Dog.
BWEEEEEEEAHAHAHHAHAAA!!!
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I don't now whether Peach is dead or alive. I do know she's
not here with us. I really can't blame anyone here for her
loss.
I'm the one who ignored your advice. I did it because of how
you write/wrote. I was unwilling to accept the idea that my
using a shock collar could have any bearing on Peach not
wanting to stay home.
Up until I started using it my main concern had been keeping
my dogs in their own yard.
Once I started using the e-fence... well, then my concern
became how to keep them from running off for days on end.
I lost valuable training time becoming embroiled in the
anti-shock debate and the "Jerry sux" tirades.
I lost one dog but I have the bestest dog in the world now <g>
A Wits End Trained dog, one who is completely housetrained,
doesn't chew up stuff, stays in the yard, and doesn't bark all
the time.
IOW a great companion and friend.
Thanks Jerry!
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We just installed a PetSafe brand fence this Spring. Two
dogs, two collars We now have one dog and no collars.
Peach and Zelda would run thru the fence, not want to come
back in the yard and would run for days.
The last time, Peach didn't come back home.
I used the Wit's End Training Manual to learn how to train
my dog. She is now border trained. A few minutes each day
reinforces her desire to stay in the yard.
She no longer runs out into the road, I can stop her from
chasing cats and she no longer cringes when we walk around
the yard.
I can not say loud or long enough how much I hate the
e-fence and its collars. If you can't get a regular fence
then you need to train your dog.
I will never rely on an electronic collar to keep my dog in
our yard again.
The price was too high:-( ~misty
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From: Nevyn (greatd...@badmama.com.au) Subject: Re: radio
fence Date: 2003-11-05 04:17:45 PST
Hi folks,
In my opinion the use of a radioshock fence is a waste of
time, effort or money. I can understand it if you a rich snob
who cares nothing about their dogs safey or behaviours.
At work I boundary train all the dogs to the bricked area
(Four kennels with 26 cages with 1 dog in each, 1 services
building and 2 catterys which is surrounded by scrubland to
the east and woodlands to the north and a lake to the west).
This works well, because then when people buy them the dogs
are easier to boundary train to a door or fence or yard.
However on a personal note, my two shelter mutts, who I
trained using the WITS END DOG MANUAL available at
www.doggydoright.com will not go past the back door, or the
back gate or the front gate without permission.
And it is nice, for when you are having a party, you can leave
your gates open for people, and your dogs won't be the least
concerned.
I find this better then spending your well earned money on a
piece of junk Why not use it to invest in a horse? Or a new
house? Make a nice aquarium? Build a nursery for a child?
Save your money. Train your dog. Please. -- Thankyou,
Nevyn
_________________________________ Nevyn E.D. Veterinary Nurse
& Animal Trainer greatd...@badmama.com.au "You can judge a
man's heart by his treatment of animals"
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From: Paul B (NOSPAMpaul_bou...@clear.net.nz)
Subject: Re: Fence Jumping
Date: 2000-09-29 04:33:37 PST
Been well experienced in dogs escaping from our
yard I know exactly the frustration you are going
through. Sam used to jump over the fence so I
made it higher then we got Roz and she went
under it, through it and climbed over it.
I've decided there are only 2 ways to stop the escaping,
1 is to have an escape proof fence, the other to train the
dogs not to want to escape.
I suppose a third method is to keep them
inside but I don't consider that a solution.
Making the fence escape proof can be almost impossible
if the dog is determined, to stop it climbing over as yours
is doing put an extension on top of the fence that angles
inwards at about 30-45 degrees. Never use chicken wire
as the dogs tear through that like paper.
The only training method to prevent this I can recall is
Jerry's technique, essentially it involves walking around the
perimeter of the fenced area with the dog and using sound
distractions and praise to teach the dog it's boundary.
I have had partial success with it (i.e. I have deterred Roz
from escaping from various points along the fence) but then
again I haven't really followed it through completely.
One last glimmer of hope, as the dog gets older it may
become more settled, Sam never escapes now although
he's quite capable of getting out, he 2.5 years old and
seemed to settle at about 2. So there you are, only 1.5
years of escaping left!!!
Paul.
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