barking on walk update
Jerry Howe
Those are excellent LAST RESORT efforts. There's MUCH moore
effective methods and instruction in your FREE copy of my FREE
Wits' End Dog Training Method manual available for FREE at
http://www.doggydoright.com
And if you're too stupid to learn I'll pay ya ten bucks and hour for
trying...call or write me for details and agreement and we'll post your
progress and results right here good buddy.
You'd do that unless you was too stupid to live... and that's HOWE COME I'm
here, cause we got dog lovers who are too stupid to let their dogs live...
"Tricia9999" <trici...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20020527133656...@mb-ba.aol.com...
> If you yell at or scold the dogs when they are barking they probably
assume you
> are joining in on the barking and it is probably escalating their barking
> rather than stopping it.
>
> Work on their recalls. Lots of reps in lots of different situations.
Distract
> them when they bark. Run off in the opposite direction, calling them and
big
> rewards for responding. Running away from them is important. You are
abandoning
> them rather than backing them up and they will likely leave the barking
and run
> to you.
Jerry Howe
you ignore the FREE GUARANTEED PAY IF YOU FAIL
INSTRUCTIONS college kid?
And you're taking advice from folks who have THE SAME PROBLEMS!
melinda's dogs fight amongst themselves and have separation
anxiety and aggression problems because she's a koehler trainer...
"stu00ac" <stu...@rdg.ac.uk> wrote in message
news:actqp5$5pn$1...@vins1.reading.ac.uk...
>
> > No, the thing is that the dogs don't have reliable recall.
> > People have a right to go out in public without your dogs
> > harrassing them, and it doesn't matter whether it's constant
> > or "only" 10% of the time (what does that mean, anyway - if
> > your dogs see 10 people they'll go after 1, or if you're out
> > for a one-hour walk they misbehave for 6 minutes, or ... ?).
> > If I were you I'd focus less on the barking and more on what
> > is very clearly an obedience problem - your dogs are
> > ignoring you when they feel like it. As I said, running
> > after your dogs with a squirt gun is very unlikely to
> > improve their recall, and I'd rethink that plan.
>
> Well if you have a suggestion as to how I can get over the selective
> deafness recall problem I would be interested to hear it. The only time
> they have a recall problem is when they're barking. In every other
> situation they're fine. I often recall them on walks for no reason except
> to pet them and practise the recall, and its always fine. I don't see
what
> else I can do except deal with the problem when they're actually barking
and
> distracted. I can't keep their focus on me 100% of the time - then there
> would be no joy in the walk anyway, they wouldn't be able to sniff or look
> around or run and swim and play fully! The only time they are 100%
focused
> on me is when I have a ball, but if I bring out a ball when they're
barking,
> it does nothing for the older dog, who is the one that wont recall in this
> situation.
>
>
>
> > --
> > Melinda Shore - Software longa, hardware brevis - sh...@panix.com
> > If you send me harassing email, I'll probably post it
>
>
Jerry Howe
> > Are you sure you are old enough or responsible enough at this stage of
> > your life to own dogs?
> Yes, is the short answer. I'm 20 and at uni. My parents own the dogs,
but
> I do all the walking , grooming etc when I'm home. These are the first
dogs
> we've owned with any kind of behavioural problem (and my parents have
> owned dogs for about the last 25 years), and we're dealing with it.
What's
> irresponsible about that?
> > Diana
Your dog lover pals call Nevyn a liar cause he cured his two aggressive
pitXkelpies in 24 days. Our dog lovers are LYING to you...
Nevyn writes:
Jerry I cannot even begin to tell you the success Ive had with your training
manual! My two mutts have gone from out-of-control psychos to obedient well
behaved companions within a matter of weeks! AND My friends have seen the
success and have asked me to work on their dogs! I was working with a 5
month old Ridgeback female today and she was being an angel after like an
hour of working with her! it is AMAZING!! I pity those fools who take their
dogs to classes where the "Trainers" abuse their dogs! (do they have a
degree? A masters? a Phd? by the way? NO they are average joes off the
street who think they know how to train dogs!)
Once again, Jerry, you are a genius!
NEVYN and my Dogs, Rizzo and Midget, My Grandparents
dogs, Dusty and Snoopy, and my friends pup, Jazz.
================
Here's a discussion I just had with Nevyn, who wrote in here
about four weeks ago with some dog aggression problems
and THEN some.
Never give out your password or credit card number in an
instant message conversation.
Nevyn says:
hello Jerry.
Jerry says:
HOWEDY Nevyn
Nevyn says:
How are you?
Jerry says:
sup?
Nevyn says:
Oh nothing
Nevyn says:
My dogs are alot better now!
Jerry says:
fine
Jerry says:
tell me
Nevyn says:
I can walk them on or off the leash and they don't give a #@% about other
dogs
Jerry says:
naah
Nevyn says:
I can let them inside and they wont eat the cats
Jerry says:
naah
Nevyn says:
Yup
Jerry says:
what did you do, buy a shock collar?
Nevyn says:
No
Nevyn says:
Praised them
Jerry says:
ahh!
Jerry says:
you think they're 100% better
Nevyn says:
'cept they still bark at the neighbour but only coz he swears at them and
pours water on them
Nevyn says:
nahh they still have stinky breath!
Nevyn says:
muahaha
Jerry says:
ok
Jerry says:
I'll go for that
Jerry says:
it'll take a couple more days to break the neighbor thing if you're
consistent
Jerry says:
then he won't swear and throw water at them
Nevyn says:
yeah but he's only out on the weekends
Jerry says:
but they'll still have stinky breath
Nevyn says:
muahahaha
Jerry says:
you gonna write the group and tell them they're suckin hind teat?
Nevyn says:
eh
Nevyn says:
nah
Nevyn says:
cant
Nevyn says:
my news server isn't workin
Nevyn says:
how about u just screenshot or copy this chat and post it
Jerry says:
why not.
Nevyn says:
sorry been tryin all day to get on the news server
Jerry says:
you got anything you'd like to tell the dog lovers who would prefer
to see you choke and shock and lock your dogs in a box?
Jerry says:
I guess you don't want to tell them nuthin that they don't already know,
huh?
Nevyn says:
hah
Nevyn says:
tell them they're fuckers who need to die
Nevyn says:
dogs aren't for abusing they are for loving they love so much
Jerry says:
that's HOWE COME they got me now
Jerry says:
howe much training time did it take for the two of 'em?
Nevyn says:
pfftt
Nevyn says:
it didn't even seem like training
Nevyn says:
its been 24 days since I got your manual
Jerry says:
pfffttt!!!!
Jerry says:
hhahahahaha
Jerry says:
have you got that feeling that they're in tune with EVERYTHING you're
wanting them to do?
Jerry says:
I forgot what city you're in.
Jerry says:
maybe if you're near alphalpha sweeny you can swing by and LAUGH your ass
off at him growling at his dogs???
Jerry says:
BWWWHAHAHAHAHAAAA!!!
Nevyn says:
LOL
Nevyn says:
I'm in Perth, Australia!
Nevyn says:
and yes they do seem to be in tune
=====================
Nevyn says:
oh!! the other day my dogs went into submissive position when a
tiny little toy poodle came up barking at them! !LOL
Jerry says:
EXCELLENT!
Nevyn says:
lol
Jerry says:
they knew they didn't need to fight, cause everything was in
your expert control.
Keep up the good work. j;~)
----------------
From: Nevyn (ali...@wasp.net.au)
Subject: Newsgroups: rec. pets. dogs. behavior
View this article only
Date: 2002-03-01 03:15:50 PST
Hello
I have two mungrel females; the breeds exactly are Blue Heeler
(spots) x Kelpi (dominant genes) x American Pitbull (behavioural) x Pug
(don't laugh!).
They are gentle loving dogs when I'm at home with them, and they are
friendly with unknown people. They are sisters. One is obviously
dominant over the other, and I don't have a problem with that,
however;
Their behaviour is very odd. Some days they are very good whilst I'm
walking them, some days they are not. They are 3 years old and have
only been walking for about 12 months because my mom didn't walk them
and now I'm home so I walk them for about an hour and half every
afternoon. I take them to the park where they chase birds and swim in
the lake.
This is my problem :
The less-dominant dog viscously barks at every other dog we walk
past; I have tried using a stick and giving her a tap when she does it,
and treating her with treats when she doesn't, using a choke chain, a
muzzle and a thing that sprays stuff in her mouth when she barks.
She won't stop! Does anyone know how I can stop her? ]
Also, the more-dominant dog seems to know this is WRONG, when the
other dog barks, she doesn't bark, but she nips at the other dog as if
telling her to cut it out, and then the barking one attacks the
more-dominant one and they fight on the leash... it is quite
disturbing to the people walking past.
And also the more-dominant one is okay around other
dogs... SOMETIMES... sometimes she completely ignores them, and yet
other times she will attack them, like yesterday. The less dominant
one I must keep on a leash if a person brings there dog to the park.
How do I stop them attacking other dogs? I have tried all the methods
I have used above for 10 months every afternoon. Is it just a pac
k-behaviour thing?
It can really be quite embarrassing when your dogs attack some old
lady's or little girl's dog.
They are good dogs, when at home or when there are no other dogs
around. Today there were hundreds of sparrows flying around the park
and they were chasing them and jumping up trying to catch them for
more than 90 minutes (They went straight to bed when I bought them
home!). Can anyone help me? Email me at my emails address,
ali...@wasp.net.au coz this list is tooo crowded.
Thanks,
Nevyn
=======================
> <"Terri"@cyberhighway
> > Hey, do like me, and killfile Jerry.
> > He has millions of people aleady reading his posts and
> > watching him extract his soggy foot out of his mouth!
> > Out of these MILLIONS, I've only seen 2 naive childs
> > come forward and actually believe in his training manual.
> Robert Crim writes:
> I assume that I and my wife are those two naive childs since
> I freely admit to having read and, I hope, understood enough
> of the manual and it's counterparts by John Fisher and the
> posts of Marilyn Rammell to believe and use it. This naive
> child would like to say thank you to both Jerry and Marilyn for
> putting up with a constant barrage of really infantile crap at
> the hands of supposedly adult dog lovers.
> The other naive child (LSW) has to put up with the nagging
> idea that if people like them had been posting earlier, maybe
> we would not have had to hold the head of a really
> magnificent animal in our arms while he was given the
> needle and having to hug him and wait until he gasped
> his last gasp.
> To my mind, "naive" is believing you can terrorize a dog into
> good behavior. Naive is believing that people that hide
> behind fake names are more honest than people that use
> their real names. Naive is thinking that dilettante dog
> breeders and amateur "trainers" like Joey (lyingdogDUMMY,
> j.h.) are the equal or better than those that have studied and
> lived by their craft for decades.
> "Stupid" is believing that people do not see kindergarten
> level insults for what they are. Really stupid is believing that
> people like Jerry Howe and Marilyn Rammell are going to
> just go away because you people act like fools. Why do you
> act like fools? I really have no idea, and I don't really care.
> > And, to date: I've not seen ONE come forward and actually
> > admit to buying and having success with his little black
> > box.
> I think I'm going to get one myself for Father's day and take
> it down to the Animal Shelter for their use and testing. You
> would never believe the results, so you'll never know.
> > Anyone by now that doesn't see a scam man coming by
> > Jerry's posts deserves to get what is sure to be coming to
> > him! LOL!
> I don't see a "scam man", so I guess I and Longsuffering
> Wife and Rollei will just have to get what we deserve, eh?
> As Joey (Dogman) says, "poor Rollei.".......right.
> >Terri
> Yes it was, and that is sad.
> Robert, Longsuffering Wife and Rollei (do I get to listen to the box
> first?)
================
----- Original Message -----
From: <BNTD...@aol.com>
To: <jho...@bellsouth.net>
Cc: <Hull...@aol.com>; <brit...@yahoo.com>; <cor...@thefelixfamily.com>;
<jam...@hotmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 6:50 PM
Subject: Head Hunter
> Dear Jerry,
> Just thought I would write to let you know how well Hunter
> is doing. He had been trained using the conventional methods
> for obedience. He had gotten used to a choker and a pinch collar.
> Alot of pain and a lot of jerking around. I had also tried using positive
> reinforcement methods that I had been trained in. He was so busy
> looking for the treat that he didn't really want to work.
> So I went back to using the pinch collar on him and also a gentle leader
> when we were in public.
> Slowly by degrees his behavior got worse and he did deserve his reputation
> as a vicious dog. The vet had recommended that he be put down. I was in a
> panic when I found your web site.
> Thanks! He is now the happy dog that I first started out with 5 years ago.
> I am a professional trainer and it was distressing to me that I could not
> help my own dog. I had been told that some dogs don't respond to any
> kind of training and that a vicious dog can never be trusted again.
> I disagree! Hunter is a sight hound and now I can take him with me and he
> doesn't chase cars as much anymore which is one of his main problems.
> We are working on the dog aggression thing. And I am confident that will
> be successful too. I also have your BIOSOUND machine and that too is
> working good. I know of several rescue groups that would benefit from it.
> This is rather long I know but it comes from the heart. My Head Hunter
> Green and I have together along time and have been through so much
> together.
> Thank you for helping me save his life.
> Kay Pierce
============
"Anthony Testa" <testa...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:c603fe9c.02032...@posting.google.com...
> I moved to Jacksonville, Florida about a year ago with my lovely wife
< snip horror story >
> Listen to this...My wife wrote one of the so called know it all of
> pets. His response to the exact letter we initially wrote to
> Jerry..."Get rid of the dog, bring her back" I'll save this person
> embarrassment by not saying the name. However, you know who you are
> and I have this to say to you. Go pump gas or bus tables because you
> sir, do not belong working with animals!
> Jerry, after reading some of the threads in the news group, I can't
> for the life of me understand why this many people are so dang blind
> or ignorant.
> You just keep plugging away at what you do, because you my friend are
> a life saver!!!
> Anytime you need someone to speak about the results of your product,
> you have my number. We would gladly talk to them.
> Thank you very much for all your help. God bless you...
> Anthony & Linda Testa
> Jacksonville, Florida
==============
"misty" <Mom...@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:6946-3B6...@storefull-233.iap.bryant.webtv.ne
> We just installed a PetSafe brand fence this Spring.
> Two dogs, two collars We now have one dog and no
> collars.
> Peach and Zelda would run thru the fence, not want to
> come back in the yard and would run for days. The
> last time, Peach didn't come back home.
> I used the Wit's End Training Manual to learn how to
> train my dog. She is now border trained. A few
> minutes each day reinforces her desire to stay in the
> yard.
> She no longer runs out into the road, I can stop her
> from chasing cats and she no longer cringes when we
> walk around the yard.
> I can not say loud or long enough how much I hate the
> e-fence and its collars. If you can't get a regular fence
> then you need to train your dog. I will never rely on an
> electronic collar to keep my dog in our yard again.
> The price was too high:-(
> ~misty
============
Elaine McClung, President of Pet Rescue, Animal Commissioner
Brevard Co FL, writes:
Hi Jerry,
I received email from Mark Shaw on 10/6 which I just read today.
Sorry I didn't have time to get to it sooner. We have had a lot
going on in our area concerning animals. We formed a new Task
Force to address spay/neuter, pet overpopulation and animal
abuse. I needed to do a lot of research before the first meeting and
time was just not available for anything else.
Anyway the letter went on to say that we are in collusion, I tried
to defraud him, and have sent none of the materials that he has
asked for although he has yet to furnish the P. O. Box number that
he wanted them sent to in the first place. He goes on to state that
I am no longer eligible for the "fictions reward." All of this is in
answer to postings that prove I was "sharing" his email with you
which in his opinion was a breach of good manners. His email only
had terms and conditions of the reward which I would consider
"public information."
Be that as it may, I would like to state that you had my permission
to post any email I have sent you regarding DDR including this
email.
I'm very sorry that you have to put up with this type of situation
from someone that obviously never intended to make good on his
reward offer in the first place.
I had a call from a friend of mine with a very aggressive cat. I
have loaned her my DDR for a few weeks to see if it will calm JR
down. I will let you know the results. She goes to the same holistic
vet that I go to and he is also interested.
In case Mark does post to the list again I would like to say that I
do very much believe that DDR will help JR as I know it has helped
my dogs and cats. I have entirely too much to do, to worry about his
opinions or reward.
The only reason I was willing to apply for the reward was on your
behalf as I do think your product is a valuable tool in helping with
aggression and other behavior problems.
I am in Feral Cat Network (we spay and neuter approximately 100
feral cats a month), I am also a member of a local AKC dog
obedience club, member of a local AKC agility club, president of
Pet Rescue, board member of the Alliance for Care and Welfare of
Animals (on the board are: county commissioner, vet. rep., rep. from
AKC dog club, CFA cat club, assistant County manager, head of
animal control, director of two different shelters, etc.) and Space
Coast Feline Network http://www.spacecoastfelinenetwork.com
I listed these not to be on an ego trip but to let Mark know that I
am involved with animals and have very little time to play games
with him also I would not recommend your product if I did not
believe in it.
Please feel free to post this email as it has no copyright on it as
did Mark Shaw's last email to me.
Take care Jerry and don't let the Mark's of the world get you down.
Elaine
Thank you, Elaine. I have been trying to educate the mark's of this
world, with some occasional successes. I guess that's variable
reinforcement?
Yours, Jerry.
============
"misty" <Mom...@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:16990-3C...@storefull-2293.public.lawson.webtv.net...
> I don't now whether Peach is dead or alive. I do know she's not here
> with us. I really can't blame anyone here for her loss. I'm the one
> who ignored your advice. I did it because of how you write/wrote. I
> was unwilling to accept the idea that my using a shock collar could have
> any bearing on Peach not wanting to stay home. Up until I started using
> it my main concern had been keeping my dogs in their own yard. Once I
> started using the e-fence...well, then my concern became how to keep
> them from running off for days on end.
> I lost valuable training time becoming embroiled in the anti-shock
> debate and the "Jerry sux" tirades.
> I lost one dog but I have the bestest dog in the world now <g> A Wits
> End Trained dog, one who is completely housetrained, doesn't chew up
> stuff, stays in the yard, and doesn't bark all the time. IOW a great
> companion and friend.
> Thanks Jerry!
=====================
----- Original Message -----
From: George von Hilsheimer, Ph.D.
Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 3:21 PM
Subject: [GVS]doggiedoright
I just had a nice talk with the man who invented the "doggiedoright" device;
he told me that if you tell him that I sent you he'll knock $25 off the
$99.95 price.
If you know someone working at a shelter etc who wants to quieten the dogs
in the neighborhood then this is an ideal present for them - and he will
sell
it at a discount. He sounds like someone we all know who has no sense
at all about money. Nice, nice man.
"doggiedoright" may be obtained from jho...@bellsouth.net I now have
four locations at which the thing has worked, so I recommend it.
Yap yap yap no more! I have zero financial interest in this.
George
============
Thank you,
Jerry Howe,
Director of Research,
BIOSOUND Scientific
Director of Training,
Wits' End Dog Training
1611 24th St
Orlando, FL 32805
Phone: 1-407-425-5092
Phone: 1-888-BIOSOUND (1-888-246-7686)
http://www.doggydoright.com
Jerry Howe
"Anthony Testa" <testa...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:c603fe9c.02032...@posting.google.com...
> I moved to Jacksonville, Florida about a year ago with my lovely wife
< snip horror story >
> Listen to this...My wife wrote one of the so called know it all of
> pets. His response to the exact letter we initially wrote to
> Jerry..."Get rid of the dog, bring her back" I'll save this person
> embarrassment by not saying the name. However, you know who you are
> and I have this to say to you. Go pump gas or bus tables because you
> sir, do not belong working with animals!
> Jerry, after reading some of the threads in the news group, I can't
> for the life of me understand why this many people are so dang blind
> or ignorant.
> You just keep plugging away at what you do, because you my friend are
> a life saver!!!
> Anytime you need someone to speak about the results of your product,
> you have my number. We would gladly talk to them.
> Thank you very much for all your help. God bless you...
> Anthony & Linda Testa
> Jacksonville, Florida
==============
Elaine McClung, President of Pet Rescue, Animal Commissioner
Brevard Co FL, writes:
Hi Jerry,
Elaine
Yours, Jerry.
=============
"misty" <Mom...@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:16990-3C...@storefull-2293.public.lawson.webtv.net...
> I don't now whether Peach is dead or alive. I do know she's not here
> with us. I really can't blame anyone here for her loss. I'm the one
> who ignored your advice. I did it because of how you write/wrote. I
> was unwilling to accept the idea that my using a shock collar could have
> any bearing on Peach not wanting to stay home. Up until I started using
> it my main concern had been keeping my dogs in their own yard. Once I
> started using the e-fence...well, then my concern became how to keep
> them from running off for days on end.
> I lost valuable training time becoming embroiled in the anti-shock
> debate and the "Jerry sux" tirades.
> I lost one dog but I have the bestest dog in the world now <g> A Wits
> End Trained dog, one who is completely housetrained, doesn't chew up
> stuff, stays in the yard, and doesn't bark all the time. IOW a great
> companion and friend.
> Thanks Jerry!
=====================
"misty" <Mom...@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:6946-3B6...@storefull-233.iap.bryant.webtv.ne
> We just installed a PetSafe brand fence this Spring.
> Two dogs, two collars We now have one dog and no
> collars.
> Peach and Zelda would run thru the fence, not want to
> come back in the yard and would run for days. The
> last time, Peach didn't come back home.
> I used the Wit's End Training Manual to learn how to
> train my dog. She is now border trained. A few
> minutes each day reinforces her desire to stay in the
> yard.
> She no longer runs out into the road, I can stop her
> from chasing cats and she no longer cringes when we
> walk around the yard.
> I can not say loud or long enough how much I hate the
> e-fence and its collars. If you can't get a regular fence
> then you need to train your dog. I will never rely on an
> electronic collar to keep my dog in our yard again.
> The price was too high:-(
> ~misty
============
> <"Terri"@cyberhighway
> Robert Crim writes:
> >Terri
================
Nevyn writes:
================
Nevyn says:
hello Jerry.
Jerry says:
HOWEDY Nevyn
Jerry says:
sup?
Nevyn says:
Oh nothing
Nevyn says:
Jerry says:
fine
Jerry says:
tell me
Jerry says:
naah
Jerry says:
naah
Nevyn says:
Yup
Nevyn says:
No
Nevyn says:
Praised them
Jerry says:
ahh!
Nevyn says:
muahaha
Jerry says:
ok
Nevyn says:
muahahaha
Nevyn says:
eh
Nevyn says:
nah
Nevyn says:
cant
Jerry says:
why not.
Nevyn says:
hah
Nevyn says:
pfftt
Jerry says:
pfffttt!!!!
Jerry says:
hhahahahaha
Jerry says:
BWWWHAHAHAHAHAAAA!!!
Nevyn says:
LOL
=====================
Jerry says:
EXCELLENT!
Nevyn says:
lol
-----------------
From: "Regina Guerrero" <>
To: <jho...@bellsouth.net>
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:42 AM
Subject: Thank You!
> I just wanted to take a bit of time
> to tell you how much I appreciate your product and
> your training methods as well.
> When my little Chihuahua first arrived
> I was overwhelmed with her anxiety and
> her ability to just Bark endlessly.
> I received your product and at first I thought
> I was using it wrong, because my puppy just seemed to ignore it.
> But after a week or two, she began to calm down considerably
> as well as act more friendly towards people on the street.
> I can't believe the difference I see in my little puppy. Your product
> is a life saver! Thanks again for everything.
> Sincerely,
> Regina Guerrero
==================
George
============
"stu00ac" <stu...@rdg.ac.uk> wrote in message
news:acu0gj$77p$1...@vins1.reading.ac.uk...
> I can see someone's got some kind of problem with people getting an
> education. I took a quick look at your 'training manual' - how anyone
could
> get through that kind of waffle is beyond me... maybe you should have
gone
> to college to learn how to write properly? Then you would have a much
> greater chance of getting your views across, if you also cut out your
> disgusting behaviour on the NG.
> "Jerry Howe" <jho...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> news:hquI8.40368$7S6.17...@e3500-atl1.usenetserver.com...