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AW

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Nov 23, 2009, 8:15:07 AM11/23/09
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Yesterday morning my 6 year old pit mix woke up listless. She isn't
eating or drinking. Her stool is normal and she isn't vomiting. She
must be running a fever, because she is panting all the time. This is
a dog that is never sick. Average walks - 5 times a week, 4 miles
each time. Top quality dog food. She also is a 100 lb couch potato
the rest of the time.

DH isn't crazy about spending money on vets. (of course she was
spayed)

FurPaw

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Nov 23, 2009, 9:19:28 AM11/23/09
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I'm sorry your dog is sick, but tell your DH that if you rely on free
diagnoses over the internet, you'll get what you pay for...

Please take her to a vet right away! With those symptoms, it could be
poisoning, it could be pancreatitis, it could be a lot of other things.

FurPaw

--
We can be absolutely certain only about things we do not understand.
-Eric Hoffer

To reply, unleash the dog.

Tara Green

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Nov 23, 2009, 1:25:53 PM11/23/09
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In the absence of an obvious reason, panting
is a VERY bad sign. It may not be fever, it
could be acute pain. Dogs often pant when
they are in pain.

I'm never crazy about spending money on
testing, but if this was my dog, I'd have
been on the phone with my vet to ask what she
thought yesterday, and if it persisted the
way this has, I'd have had Annie in to see
her this morning.

Not drinking = bad sign
Panting = bad sign
Listless = not a good sign

There are enough red flags here to be of
concern, as far as I can see. I would at
least call my vet to ask what they think. One
of my first thoughts upon reading this was
"bloat"....but its my understanding that she
would be near death (or dead) by now if that
was the problem. Even still, partial torsion
would be a concern to me.

This is where making sure I have a really
good relationship with my vet comes in handy.
When I call her for something like this, I
don't just get the "I can't tell without
seeing her" response. My vet knows me really
well and knows my dog really well. While she
would often prefer giving me advice after
laying hands on my dog and *seeing* what's
going on, she trusts what I see enough by now
to be able to tell me when it sounds safe to
wait, and to tell me when she's uncomfortable
saying anything without seeing her first.
Bringing my pets in or not is still a
judgment call on my part, but having good
access to her makes that call a lot easier to
make.

This last bit doesn't help you now, I know.
But so few people put the effort into finding
a vet they can trust and then building a
relationship *with* that vet (it does take a
conscious effort) that I think it bears
mentioning.

I hope your dog is ok.

Avid Fan

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Nov 24, 2009, 4:20:15 AM11/24/09
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She needs to go to a vet. I fear the news will not be good.

If you want an Internet diagnosis I think she has a faulty heart valve.
She is panting because her lungs are filling with fluid and she can't
breathe. Sorry.

If I am right, which lets face it, is less than average. Medication
will give you another 1 good year together

Hope I am wrong.

AW

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Nov 24, 2009, 8:32:13 AM11/24/09
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Today she quit panting and she doesn't seem as hot.
We are giving her small plungerful's of water. She still isn't
drinking or eating on her own.

Tara Green

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Nov 24, 2009, 9:54:31 AM11/24/09
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Oh for fuck's sake.

She STILL isn't drinking on her own? and you
haven't taken her to a vet yet?

Three days of refusing everything including
water and you haven't gotten her medical care?

Really not good.

FurPaw

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Nov 24, 2009, 10:29:50 AM11/24/09
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Oh. My. She's still not eating or drinking, but you still haven't taken
her to a vet.

What is her temperature? What is her heart rate? Are her gums pink or pale?

When you pinch the skin on her back, does it snap back into place quickly,
or does it slowly resume its configuration? When you press on the gum,
does the white spot left by your finger become pink again within a second?
If the skin doesn't snap back quickly, or especially if the gum doesn't
become pink again quickly, it's a sign of serious dehydration. It's hard
to provide adequate water in "small plungerfuls" to a dog who isn't
voluntarily drinking. Dehydration (a symptom of an underlying problem) can
be fatal.

http://www.vetinfo.com/symptoms-canine-dehydration.html

Well, for your sake, I hope she survives without any more suffering than
she's had for that past few days.

Avid Fan

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Nov 24, 2009, 7:54:00 PM11/24/09
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She really does need to see a Vet immediately.

I know Vets are expensive but it is part of the responsibility of owning
a dog.

AW

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Nov 25, 2009, 7:13:47 AM11/25/09
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No, she doesn't have these symptoms and her gums look normal and the
skin snaps back. No drooling or vomiting.

On Tue, 24 Nov 2009 08:29:50 -0700, FurPaw <furrea...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>
>http://www.vetinfo.com/symptoms-canine-dehydration.html

Mark Shaw

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Nov 26, 2009, 4:32:43 PM11/26/09
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AW <see_addres...@invalid.com> wrote:
> No, she doesn't have these symptoms and her gums look normal and the
> skin snaps back. No drooling or vomiting.

Take her to the vet, god dammit!

What the hell!

--
Mark Shaw "Time" Person of the Year, 2006
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"If a writer can look at blank pages as clean sheets, maybe he or
she can get going in the morning." - Roy Blount Jr.

starcat

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Nov 27, 2009, 10:01:00 AM11/27/09
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"AW" <see_addres...@invalid.com> wrote in message
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> Today she quit panting and she doesn't seem as hot.
> We are giving her small plungerful's of water. She still isn't
> drinking or eating on her own.

Poor baby is suffering. She's in a huge amount of pain. Why you haven't
taken her to a vet is beyond me. It's like if you had appendicitis and
stayed at home - THAT's what you're putting her through. TAKE HER TO A VET!

Avid Fan

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Nov 28, 2009, 6:38:45 AM11/28/09
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From what has been said and the lack of information from the OP I would
say she (the dog) is dead and died a bad death.

Small2Large Critters

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Dec 4, 2009, 10:05:31 AM12/4/09
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OH PLEASE! READING ALL OF THAT MAKES ME WONDERING IS THE DOG STILL
ALIVE? BUT SILENCE SINCE THEN SO I'M GUESSING THE DOG'S DEAD. BLESS
ITS HEART DEAR GOD. I DON'T THINK PPL SHOULD BE GETTING PETS IF KNOWING
IT'S THEIR RESPONSIBLE FOR THE PETS HEALTH SAKE BY TAKING THEM TO THE
VET AND THAT DOES COST MONEY. IF NOT WANTING TO SPEND ON THE VET COST,
THEN THEY SHOULDN'T BE GETTING ANY PETS. :( I DON'T LIKE SEEING PETS
SUFFER TOO LONG. I USED TO WORK AT THE VET THOUGH. BUT I'M RETIRED.
GETTING OLD IS ALL.

TERI

Avid Fan

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Dec 6, 2009, 10:54:42 AM12/6/09
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Agree with you totally. On the plus side the suffering is over.

How much money are we talking about? The same cost of a Case of beer
and tank of fuel.

Cheri

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Dec 10, 2009, 5:14:46 PM12/10/09
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"Tara Green" <jellybea...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Panting was the first sign my dear dog had cancer. I agree about a
relationship with the vet, and it did cost a fortune, but it was money well
spent for us even if the outcome was not good. In all the years we had her,
we never second guessed it, if she wasn't well, which was seldom, she was at
the vet, if only for routine check ups as prevention. Good luck, and I hope
your dog gets better quickly too.

Cheri


Cheri

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Dec 10, 2009, 5:16:33 PM12/10/09
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"AW" <see_addres...@invalid.com> wrote in message
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I see that this is last month, I hope your dog is better now.

Cheri

Cheri

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Dec 10, 2009, 5:19:48 PM12/10/09
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"Avid Fan" <avid...@notvalidexample.net> wrote in message
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Also, people can make their own choice about how bad they feel and if a
doctor is required, an animal can't. I don't believe responsible people
leave their animals to chance.

Cheri


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