Subject: Re: In strong defense of Jerry Howe
HOWEDY GOLLEEE,
On Feb 4, 8:27 am, "GOLL...@gmail.com" <GOLL...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Fellow dog people,
> I was EXTREMELY put off by Jerry Howe's posts at first,
You mean The Sincerely Incredibly Freakin Insanely Simply
Amazing, Grand, Puppy, Child, Pussy, Birdy, Goat, Ferret,
Monkey, SpHOWES, And Horsey Wizard <{}: ~ ) >
> with all the name-calling
What "name-callin"?? I'm only bein accurate <{}: ~ ) >
> and HOWES everywhere,
Yeah. That really disturbs folks here abHOWETS <{}: ~ ( >
> and yet he took the time to post long, detailed answers, and if I scrolled
> past the angry verbiage, he sounded intelligent, very caring and
> understanding about dogs, and earnest in his desire to help in a
> constructive way.
ALL Critters Only Respond
In
PREDICTABLE INNATE NORMAL NATURAL
INSTINCTIVE REFLEXIVE
Ways
To Situations And Circumstances Of Their Environment
Which We Create For Them.
A DOG Is A DOG;
As A KAT Is A KAT;
As A BIRDY Is A BIRDY;
As A GOAT Is A GOAT;
As A FERRET Is A FERRET;
As A MONKEY Is A MONKEY:
As A HORSE Is A HORSE;
As A CHILD IS A CHILD;
As A SP-HOWES Is a SP-HOWES;
As A Mass Murderer Is A Mass Murderer.
ALL TEMPERAMENT And BEHAVIOR PROBLEMS
ARE
CAUSED BY MISHANDLING.
Damn The Descartean War of "Nature Vs Nurture";
We Teach By HOWER Words And Actions
And GET BACK What We TAUGHT.
You GET The Critter You TRAINED
> He just felt so angry and frustrated that people were using poor methods
> in their dog training, methods that made the dog miserable, who then made
> his OWNER miserable.
"It is by muteness that a dog becomes
so utterly beyond value."
Like a confessor Priest?
"With him, words play no torturing tricks..., "
--John Galsworthy.
Don't bet your dog won't tell on you...
Their behaviors reflect
HOWER words, actions and training quirks.
Jerry HOWE, The Puppy Wizard. <{} ; ~ ) >
> Then, the misguided (though well-meaning) dog owner/trainer would PASS ON
> the wrong info.
We've been dealin with a massive CONSPIRACY to repress INFORMATION.
The Methods, Principles And Philosophy Of Behavior
Never Change,
Or They'd Not Be Scientific
And Could Not Obtain
Consistent, Reliable, Fast, Effective, Safe Results
For All Handler's And All Critters,
And ALL Behaviors
In ALL FIELDS And ALL UTILITIES,
ALL OVER The Whole Wild World,
NEARLY INSTANTLY,
As Taught In Your FREE Copy Of The Sincerely Incredibly
Freakin Insanely Simply Amazing
GRAND
Puppy, Child, Pussy, Birdy And Horsey Wizard's
100% CONSISTENTLY NEARLY INSTANTLY SUCCESSFUL
FREE
WWW Wits'End Dog, Child, Kat And Horse Training Method Manual
<{} ; ~ ) >
> Finally I went to Jerry's online manual, and began reading it carefully,
> and it made me feel a sense of all my doggy problems blowing away in the
> wind, using methods that are not cruel, or sugary, but sensible, and not
> difficult or dangerous, or the kind of thing that makes you feel horrible
> doing them. He suggested that a barking dog is trying to warn his owner of
> an intruder,or of danger, and so punishing the dog only confuses and
> upsets him. "TEll him,"Good boy".
"Only the unenlightened speak of wisdom and right action
as separate, not the wise.
If any man knows one, he enjoys the fruit of both.
The level which is reached by wisdom
is attained
through right action as well.
He who perceives that the two are one knows the truth."
"Even the wise man acts in character with his nature,
indeed all creatures act according to their natures.
What is the use of compulsion then?
The love and hate which are aroused
by the objects of sense arise from Nature,
do not yield to them.
They only obstruct the path," -
- Bhagavad Gita,
adapted by Krishna with permission
from His OWN FREE copy of The Simply
Amazing Puppy Wizard's FREE Wits' End
Dog Training Method manual <{) ; ~ ) >
ALL Temperament And Behavior Problems Are CAUSED BY MISHANDLING
"If you talk with the animals, they will talk with you
and you will know each other.
If you do not talk to them, you will not know them,
and what you do not know you will fear.
What one fears, one destroys."
Chief Dan George
Subject: Re: Discipline
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 02:43:46 -0500
From: Amanda <ama...@dcfwatch.com>
To: "N
On Wednesday 15 January 2003 01:54, "N wrote:
i responded in katie's mail.. youll get it before this one :)
i'm not the expert.. mr. howe is teaching me.. and im figuring
alot out.. plus its just coming to me.. two months ago i would
cry cuz i was soooo lost... and now i go ahead and live it...
like he gave me just enough for my brain to fill in the rest?
when i would swat in my early parent years.. up until i got
crunchy this last year.. i swore spanking was great.. a lil
bit of fear in yo' momma is what i would say.. and my family
supported me.. you can spank and not be abusive.
then i felt guilty... not because i knew better, but becuase
you guys and others did it wihtout spanking.. better than me...
but i would still say i just have bad kids.. then i started
feeling guilty..asked for help.. got some advice and it worked
some.. but not much.. enough to make me think i did it.. then
it wouldn't help..
then i heard him tell someone on the news group:
"Do you think hitting babies is intelligent" and i was
like whoa.. now i feel like cockaroach and pray every
time i distract them that they can somehow grow up
not to hate me..
and i pray i caught myself in enough time.
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> He said that it would stop the barking sooner. We have a dachshund at home
> who barks a LOT, never at nothing, but at people at the door and loud
> noises. At my instigation, we PRAISED him when he barked, and it was
> almost comical! He stopped immediately,
You mean, LIKE THIS?:
From: "Marisa" <mari...@hotmail.com>
Date: Fri, 17 May 2002
Subject: one day
I started some of the simple techniques in
Jerrys manual today.
The family pack exercise.... come command.....
that's all so far though.
I did get the proper equipment as well.
20 foot leash, cans with pennies partially
crushed, flat collar, etc.
I have also stopped any negative reinforcment
such as loud "No" and "Bad girl Sonique!"
(Sonique is my Jack russell) and holding her
back, which I normally MUST do or she'll jump
and nip sometimes, but always jumping and barking.
Already tonight some has started working.
When someone came to the door, Sonique
went nuts as usual.
I said "Thank you Sonique!"
"It's o.k. girl, thank you!"
And we got a total of about 6 barks and then
no jumping on guests, no biting, growling
or the worst, the continued barking she
normally does.
She accepted my praise, and trooted around,
still excited over guests, but she was WAY
more under control.
Even my roomates noticed this.
She repeated this same thing
without all her normal fuss later
when another two friends came over.
So I do need more time, going to keep with it
another day, another month whatever until I
know I am getting results, although I must say,
so far I am impressed with my dog.
She really responds to praise better than
she ever has responded to treats as distraction
from the guests and doorbell, or me yelling
"bad girl! go away now! shoosh up!" all the time.
I am also verbally praising her everytime
she makes eye contact with me. so hopefully
things will continue going well!-
- Marisa
From: "0513chgo" <0513c...@nixspam.net>
Date: Thu, 16 May 2002
Subject: Re: Jerry Howe
Marshall Dermer wrote in message ... > In articleSsyE8.20247$t8_.
12...@news01.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com>
> "Marisa" <mari...@hotmail.com> writes:
>> So I downloaded your Wits End today,
>> and I have started reading, and I am
>> planning on using it from now on and
>> see what results I get.
> Marisa you have much hard reading
> ahead of you because Jerry's manual
> is verbose and spends about as many
> lines condeming other approaches as
> describing what to do.
Please leave Marisa be and let her be happy
with training her dog the way she wants to!
From: "Jerry Howe" <jho...@bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: Jerry Howe
He CAN'T.
He's fighting for his career and reputation...he's F'd.
Jerry.
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From: Marshall Dermer (der...@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu)
Subject: Re: Jerry's Dog Training Manual
Date: 2001-07-12 06:49:13 PST
And how do we know this aspect of his
advice is right?
Jerry is not God and his manual is not the Bible.
His advice could be subject to an empirical analysis.
(Also, it is best to killfile posts from the
few regulars here who are either ill-tempered,
ill-mannered, or just plain ill),
--Marshall
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