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Oct 30, 2009, 10:05:41 AM10/30/09

HOWEDY kathleen you Pathetic Miserable Stinkin Rotten
Lyin Spammin Slanderin Defamin Dog Child an Horse Abusin
Punk Thug Coward Active Acute Chronic Life Long Incurable
Malignant MaliciHOWES MENTAL CASE,

"Kathleen" <khhfmde...@charter.net> wrote in message
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> The Engineer wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 21:35:21 +1100, Steve wrote:
>
>>>"The Engineer" <not_...@nooosppamm.com> wrote in message
>>>news:6oTFm.50476$ze1....@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>
>>>>I have some ideas on how to save yourself some time in Gaol
>
>>>>I traced your IP address.
>
>>>>I can't believe any one can be so stupid as to use their real first
>>>>name and threaten assault Killing a dog in writing. I bet your
>>>>"lightening quick fuse" means you have form
>
>>>Enough form to deal with a disability pension cheat with a fag earring
>
>> Pension cheat? What do you base that on? You a fucking Doctor? I don't
>> think you even finished High school.
>
>>>>I have observed this jerk at the dog park. He is a fat lump of lard in
>>>>red shirt with a brown lab that is scared of it's own shadow (Wonder
>>>>why that is?) The real reason he is upset with the owner of the
>>>>Huskies is because he asked him to pick up his dog's dog carp. He sits
>>>>on his fat arse on the bench and does not watch his dog.
>
>>>Like I told him, he'd remember if he told me to do something because the
>>>reply would be fuck off.
>
>> So you admit you don't pick up after your dog. Did you tell the Ranger
>> that?
>
>>>>He struts around the park saying "You have been warned" and has very
>>>>strongly abused a family father, mother and eight year old boy at the
>>>>park uses simply because they do
>>>>not agree with his view of the world.
>
>>>>Forget about dogs YOU ARE PROBLEM.

>>>I told you you've been warned not to poke your unemployed welfarecheating
>>>nose into my business again.
>
>> Or else what????? People want to know!!
>
>>>You lied to someone so you could
>
>> What did he lie about? What business of yours did he poke his nose into.

<SNIP>

>>>> EVERYONE A FAVOUR - KILL YOURSELF
>
>>>Only disabled pension cheats who can't afford antidepressants kill
>>>themself.. Blow yourself up in your shitbox Jeep and get rid of 2
>>>worthless pieces of shit.
>
>> So the anti-depressants are working for you - Think you better see a
>> Psychiatrist and get some anti-psychotics.
>
>> So much for your whine about the bullying behaviour of a
>> couple of Huskies. I think everyone in this news group can
>> see what a piece of shit you are. FAT LUMP OF CRAP!!!

> Anybody still wonder why I stay out of public dog parks?

INDEED? You're just a other lyin sack of crap who can't
handle raise or train her own fear aggressive hyperactive
imbecile children horses or dogs, kathleen:

"Kathleen" <khhfmde...@charter.net> wrote in message
news:hnKrm.65853$Y83....@newsfe21.iad...
> Steve wrote:
>
>> "Kathleen" <khhfmde...@charter.net> wrote in message
>> news:t6Krm.65852$Y83....@newsfe21.iad...
>
>>>Stay away from public dog parks?

EXXXCELLENT ADVICE~! kathleen does likeWIZE on accHOWENTA
she CAN'T TRAIN HER OWN fear aggressive / shy / hyperactive dogs.

>>>IME there is simply entirely too much cluelessness and dumbassery.

But of curse~! And kathleen "SEEM" to GOT IT ALL~!

You an your ill trained HOWETA CON-TROLL dogs are a threat to EVERY WON.

>> Actually the great majority are excellent, it's just 2 or 3.

Two or three of kathleen's own dogs are JUST LIKE THAT
even amongst each other~!

> It may just be that I am extremely spoiled and unconvinced of the need to
> "socialize" my dogs (or myself).

INDEED? You're a pathetic miserable stinkin rotten lyin animal
murderin MENTAL CASE who's OWN DOGS are AGGRESSIVE
to dogs AND PEOPLE at the doggy park~!

> I've got a big back yard, access to hundreds of acres of trails, creeks
> and ponds, a pack of four dogs to interact with one
> another and no burning desire to chat with semi-strangers with
> ill-mannered dogs.

Oh? Oh, INDEED??

BWEEEAAAHAAAHAAA~!~!~!

kat wrote:
> "Kathleen" <khhfmde...@charter.net> wrote in message
> news:2XXLl.9051$zm7....@newsfe19.iad...
>
>>kat wrote:
>
>>>"Kathleen" <khhfmde...@charter.net> wrote in message
>>>news:dSWLl.11295$BZ3....@newsfe12.iad...
>
>>>>Janet Boss wrote:
>
>>>>>In article <uIKdnSBWX53Uk53X...@posted.localnet>,
>>>>>"kat" <katl...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>>>>>Remi likes to chase and bark at Shadow when we are outside. It
>>>>>>happens mostly when Shadow is running and/or chasing a ball.
>>>>>>Distracting her with her own ball chase doesn't work. I generally
>>>>>>corral her and work on a quiet command but so far no luck . Since I'm
>>>>>>a novice at this training stuff any tips would be appreciated :)
>
>>>>>>Kathy
>
>>>>>I'm not sure why the above behavior is actually a problem. Sounds like
>>>>>PLAY to me! I've had pups who grab onto the older dog's tail while
>>>>>they fetch, jump all over them, whatever. It evolves with training and
>>>>>one-on-one play.
>>>>
>>>>I don't know if it's play or not. Cooper chases Zane when Zane's
>>>>playing ball, running alongside, barking maniacally and nipping at his
>>>>flanks, neck, face and ears.
>
>>>Sounds like what is happening here. Sometimes she does the running and
>>>nipping as he is chasing the ball (no barking) and then all three on the
>>>way
>
>>>back. Are we doomed to taking them out separately? That creates problems
>>>too as the one left behind in the house goes nuts.
>>
>>How well do they interact when there's no ball involved?
>
> Not well. Only recently has Shadow started tolerating Remi a shade more.
> There is still frequent growling and lashing out. Of course Remi's habit
> of
> bounding and jumping into a situation (regardless of which animal happens
> to be in the way) doesn't help.
>
>> Zane seems oblivious to Cooper's badgering as long as he's got a ball.
>> But on a couple of occasions Zane has gotten stressed at various other
>> factors and has lashed out at Cooper for relatively minor infractions
>> (assuming you didn't know their cummulative history).
>>
>>If Shadow's not venting on Remi at other times I'd assume it's play and
>>ignore the noise.
>
> No it's not play on Shadow's end. I'm not sure what it is on Remi's end.
>
> In my situation, I avoid allowing Cooper to antagonize Zane, even
> though Zane is not visibly reacting to the provocation at the time. He's
> clearly keeping score on some level.
>
> Yes we stop any negative interaction as soon as it occurs too. I'm hoping
> it eases in time and was hoping that some time outside together might
> speed
> that but it doesn't appear to be doing that.

Nope. Given the severity of the potential consequences this comes down
to management. And since my husband works night and I have three dogs,
I do understand the difficulty of splitting the dogs up so they don't
wind up confronting each other OR waking up other household members.
Training is a logistical nightmare.

Sometimes this involves piling all of them into the van, driving to a
vacant lot, crating two of the three and working the odd man out. Or I
wait until my husband has left for work, go out back and let the other
two bark their heads off in their crates in the house.

They are all insanely jealous of each other.

My daughter and her boyfriend adopted a rescued BC puppy that I've been
babysitting periodically. She has been hinting broadly that perhaps I
might begin clicker training with him.

No frackin' way. Without further major disarrangement of social order
and living arrangements, it ain't gonna happen. I can't even train my
own dogs with him around.

----------------------------

KathleenFrom: Kathleen
Date: Sun, Jun 9 2002
Groups: alt.mountain-bike

I've been debating on when to start Zane's trail training.

He's 10 months old, and still growing, so that rules out any long
rides. That's okay. I'm still recovering from the virus from hell,
or, more specifically, some of its nastier side effects, so I wasn't
planning a long ride anyways.

And Zane mostly comes when he's called. *Mostly*, which really
isn't good enough, not on its own. But Zane follows Scully like he's
attached to her by invisible bungee cords, and Scully ALWAYS
comes when she's called, so I felt fairly safe with taking both of
them.

I loaded up the bike and we headed out to Lost Valley. It was the
middle of the day, in the middle of the week, so I figured there'd be
little or no trail traffic to deal with. Both dogs went high-stepping
around the parking lot, trying to get used to the feel of their boots.

Zane added a new twist by mule-kicking with both hind legs
simultaneously, trying to throw off his shoes. When I laughed at him,
he grabbed my wrist in his jaws, gently enough that the skin was barely
dented, while growling playfully.

So I flipped him onto his back and held him down until he quit thrashing -
the canine equivalent of saying "Uncle". He seems to be suffering from
some sort of short term memory deficit.

We have to review his place on the totem pole on a daily basis, lest he
come to believe that he holds that much coveted alpha postion.

When we headed out, he and Scully ran shoulder to shoulder, hauling
ass on down the trail. In a matter of a few seconds, they were so far
gone I couldn't tell which dog was which. Then I called them. One of
those far off dots wheeled around and came flying back, with the second
figure not far behind... Scully, with Zane following in her wake.

Good deal.

Scully was thrilled to be out on the trail, but Zane was ecstatic,
out of his mind with pure joy. They charged up and down the trail,
crashing through the brush on either side, spinning and dodging each
other, and making me dodge them. Hopefully, that will become less
of a problem as the novelty of the situation wears off.

After a little less than three miles, I decided to turn back. The
dogs seemed to be holding up well, but the trail was overgrown with
grass and brush and I kept finding ticks crawling all over them and me.

Gah!. I'll be glad when the DOC gets out there and brush hogs that
section of double-track.

As we headed back, the dogs spotted a hiker up ahead, and sped off
to investigate. By the time I caught up, a situation had already developed.

The hiker was a lone man, maybe in his late 20's, wearing full camo, a hat
and glasses. In other words, exactly the sort of person to freak Zane out.

And Zane was indeed freaking out. Barking madly, from about 10
feet away. Full on threat display, with his teeth bared, standing all
roach-backed with the hair along his spine standing on end, his head
held low and forward, in a hyena-ish stance. And the hiker kept holding
his hand out, leaning toward him, staring him in the eyes, trying to call
Zane to him.

Idiot. I don't think he realized how close he came to being bitten.

So now it's back to the drawing board with Zane.

He's only allowed outside with a yard rope attached to his collar.

A yard rope is just a piece of heavy clothes line with a snap hook
for attaching to his collar. I don't call him unless I'm in a position to
step on that rope, and when I do, I call him *once*, then reel his butt
in and make him come.

No more of this calling him three or four or five times before he
comes. I've also been taking him out to many different places
and correcting him for challenging strange men.

And he won't be coming to the trail until I'm sure that the lessons have
sunk in.

I wish, though, that the general public was a little more educated
on how to deal with an unfamiliar dog. Zane never has a problem with
the men we encounter at flyball - they're all dog people, and know how
to deal with him appropriately. I spent some time thinking about what
they do differently, and it all boils down to attitude.

1) When you approach or are approached by a person with a dog, address
your greeting to the dog's handler. This emphasises the dog's position as a
social subordinate.

If you were greeting an actor or a politician, you wouldn't say Hi to the
bodyguard or the flunkies and hangers-on first.

2) ASK the dog's handler before attempting to touch the dog.

3) Keep your greeting to the dog brief and matter-of-fact.
Don't fawn or gush.

4) Don't stare. Direct eye contact is a challenge and a threat.

5) If the dog behaves in a threatening way, stop what you're doing.

Quit staring him in the eye, quit trying to reach out and touch him,
and don't keep trying to sweet talk him. An assertive "Stop that!"
is more likely to have the desired effect.

6) When you're getting conflicting body language from the dog (growling
and snarling, while wagging the tail) always pay attention to what the
business end - the part with the teeth - is doing. A wagging tail
doesn't mean a dog won't bite, it simply means he's enjoying himself
(bullying can be great fun).

Kathleen

--------------

THAT'S INSANE, kathleen.

You're a HAZARD to society, both man an beast:

From: "Delusional_Dimensions_Recovery_DDR"
<Human_And_Animal_Behavior_Forensic_Sciences_Research_Laborat...@HotMail.Com>
Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009

Subject: Re: Prednisolone reduction in dog - can you help?

HOWEDY kathleen you Pathetic Miserable Stinkin Rotten
Lyin Animal An Child Abusin Punk Thug Coward Active
Acute Chronic Life Long Incurable Malignant MaliciHOWES
MENTAL CASE,

"Kathleen" <khhfmdeletet...@charter.net> wrote in message
news:_Fwal.6962$1L3....@newsfe20.iad...

> Father Yod & YHW 13 wrote:

>> On 11 Jan, 23:22, chardonnay9 <chardonn...@earthlink.net> wrote:

>>>Father Yod & YHW 13 wrote:
>>>> I am going to change vet (again) and try one much further away as the
>>>> vets in the town I'm in are terrible.

>>>>This Predisolone is a pile of *hit!

>>> Sorry you and the dog are learning the hard way. You might want
>>> to look around for a holistic vet who would do more than treat symptoms
>>> and go for the underlying cause.
>
>>> A classical homeopath would be best of all.

>>>Just don't quit the drug cold or it could cause even worse problems. Ask
>>>the vet for the fastest detox without doing that.

>> Thanks.I am going to ask the vet that, I'd like the dog off
>> the drug by next weekend.

>> At the moment the dog is trying to lie down - he must be very
>> tired, I just hope he gets a good nights rest tonight. As for
>> homeopathy...I have tried a few things over the years but they never seem
>> to have worked.He doesn't seem to respond to it but does very well with
>> supplements, herbs etc.

>> Thanks for your concern!

> Please disregard any specific advice offered by Chard.
> She is a crackpot with an agenda.

And you're a lyin animal murderin mental case / spammer
who works for a pharmacutical company:

HOWEDY kathleen,

"Kathleen" khhfmdeletet...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote in message news:9WR5j.
964$Aw4....@[EMAIL PROTECTED]

> chm...@[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone used www.dogtravelcompany.net
> to book either a flight or a vacation package? My husband and I want to
> go on vacation with our 2 labs and just found this company. They're the
> only company I've ever seen that let's you fly with your dogs in the
> cabin.

A total rip-off. Run away as fast as you can.

---------------------

That so?

Might you be the SAME kathleen who's own dog
CRIPPLED HISSELF tryin to ESCAPE you pupperty?

Might you be the SAME kathleen who COULDN'T
TRAIN her own horse and had to GET RID OF IT?

Might you be the SAME kathleen who's own
terrior won't murder a rat on accHOWENTA
he's AFRAID of them?

Might you be the SAME kathleen who's own
dog PISSES HISSELF when her darlin husband
comes into the HOWES?

And might you be the SAME kathleen who'd only
show pictures of your dog MURDERIN a innocent
defenseless dumb critter to like minded souls?

AS STATED in your own POSTED CASE HISTORY below?

Might you be the SAME kathleen who
SELLS CRAPOLA
on the web?:

Kathleen Hansen
715 Brickingham Drive
Saint Peters, Missouri 63376
kh...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://webpages.charter.net/dhfm/ZControl.html

You know from personal EXXXPERIENCE HOWE
difficult it is to establish a REPUTATION as a
TRUSTWORTHY, legitimate business person when
startin a new business.

Perhaps we should wrap HOWER legs so's we don't
get abrasions on HOWER ankles in the scuffle like
HOWE your own ill trained fear aggressive hyperactive
HOWETA CON-TROLL dogs do?:

"Z-Control Skid Boots were born out of my frustration
with other methods of skid protection. Wrapping with
Vetwrap was tricky and time consuming, and was a
constant source of worry at busy tournaments...

"Only four races in between... Do I dare leave him
wrapped, or will his feet wind up swelling? And if I
DO leave the Vetwrap on him, will he shred it as
soon as I turn my back?"

There had to be a better way.

--------------------

And INDEED, there IS, kathleen!

If you LEARNED HOWE to pupperly wrap
legs and COULD LEARN HOWE to TRAIN
your hyperactive fear aggressive dogs to not
shred them off soon as you stop jerkin an
chokin an turn your back on them, you
WOULDN'T NEED your useless spam leg
protectors.

malinda has told us she sees such booties litterin
the Arctic tundra like discarded condoms.

Hey kathleen, have you ever heard of these terms?:

defamation
noun
1. a false accusation of an offense or a malicious
misrepresentation of someone's words or actions

2. an abusive attack on a person's character
or good name [syn: aspersion]

----------------

li?bel
noun, verb, -beled, -bel?ing or (especially British)
-belled, - bel?ling.

-noun 1. Law. a. defamation by written or printed words,
pictures, or in any form other than by spoken words or gestures.

b. the act or crime of publi****ng it.

c. a formal written declaration or statement, as one containing
the allegations of a plaintiff or the grounds of a charge.

2. anything that is defamatory or that maliciously or
damagingly misrepresents.

-verb (used with object) 3. to publish a libel against.

4. to misrepresent damagingly.

5. to institute suit against by a libel, as in an admiralty court.

slan?der
-noun 1. defamation; calumny: rumors full of slander.

2. a malicious, false, and defamatory statement or re****t:
a slander against his good name.
3. Law. defamation by oral utterance rather than by writing,
pictures, etc.

-verb (used with object)
4. to utter slander against; defame.

-verb (used without object)
5. to utter or circulate slander.

---------------------

> I know how exhausting this must be for you.

Yeah. It's a real bother to watch her dog be
sick from a deathly prescription drug <{}: ~ ( >

> Understand that while the physical syptoms are difficult for the dog, any
> emotion discomfort he's feeling is due to cueing off of you and your
> distress.

The dog could be DYIN from TOXICITY.

> So chill. Relax.

The dog is takin several times the dose IT should have.

> Yes, this is hard, yes this is miserable, but it's temporary and it's far
> worse for you than for the dog and there is an end in sight.

DOGS DIE FROM THIS.

> Right now the best med for your dog is you.

That so?

> Potty him then lay him down and spoon, either in his bed or yours. No
> cooing or consoling, just the physical comfort of being there for him.

That's a little NEUROTIC, wouldn't you agree, kathleen?

> When he gets antsy take him out to relive himself, then back to bed. This
> is less trouble than you'd spend on a healthy human infant and a lot less
> hassle than you'd spend on yourself during a bout of the stomach flu or a
> serious hangover.

You mean INSTEAD of stoppin the DRUG overdose?

> Pull yourself together, make arrangements and cope.

You're a MENTAL CASE, remember, kathleen?:

Subject: Re: Letter to Carmine
Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008

HOWEDY kathleen you Pathetic Miserable Stinkin Rotten
Lyin Animal An Child Abusin Punk Thug Coward Active
Acute Chronic Life Long Incurable Malignant MaliciHOWES
MENTAL CASE,

"Kathleen" <khhfmdeletet...@charter.net> wrote in message
news:A9AYk.9557$b05....@newsfe06.iad...

> Terri wrote:
>> Dear Carmine,

>> You and I both know I love you dearly and that I feel
>> the sun rises and sets because of you.

meat terri MURDERED her last two DEAD DOGS <{}: ~ ( >

>> Love, Your devoted food slave and poop picker-upper

Yeah, MURDERIN your dogs *IS* the kindest gift <{}: ~ ) >

> Too funny.

INDEED? Perhaps she should post it to alt.religion.kibology?

> Timely, too.

INDEED?

> I woke up last night with Scully's scratchy cracker paws in my face.

> Memo to Scully: If I'm smelling Saltines, somebody's going to have
> to move and it's not going to be me.

HOWE COME you don't just use your "QUIT IT" command?:

kathleen wrote:

How in the world can you sit there and let her lick and
push at you for *an hour*? You really do need to consult
a trainer, I don't even know where to begin with this.

I have a one-word command that covers all sorts of
obnoxious behavior. "Quit!" It means quit licking me,
quit licking yourself,stop noodging, refrain from leaning,
cut out the begging, knock off harrassing the other dog.

And if the behavior doesn't stop I get up and do whatever
is necessary to stop it. Somebody goes off my lap, outside,
in their crate.

You need somebody to teach you how to teach the dog.

Kathleen

-----------------------------------------

HOWEDY kathleen you pathetic miserable stinkin rotten
lyin slanderin dog an child abusin MENTAL CASE,

You're as full of crap as Master Of Deception blankman was.

Here's enough of your own POSTED CASE HISTORY
to PROVE you ain't got the intellect to HOWEtwit the
cunning of the domestic puppy dog:

"My JRT is skittish around men, including my
husband, and he was never abused or neglected."

My JRT, Cooper (a two year-old neutered male), has a similar
problem, although only with my husband. Dad has to maintain
a very low-key, neutral, matter-of-fact demeanor around Cooper,
especially when he first gets home.

Any hint of either exuberance or gruffness is liable to
turn on the waterworks. Babytalking in a high squeaky
voice guarantees a mess. Another thing that seems to
boost Cooper's confidence is greeting Dad as a member
of the three dog pack instead of one-on-one.

Kathleen

--------------------------

From: Kathleen <khhfmdel...@

Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005
Subject: Re: My Rottie is a bummer

Melanie L Chang wrote:
> I have an a dog who is fear aggressive. He cannot be loose around
> strangers. Trust me, a dog who is generally aggressive is a big
> responsibility and probably not one that you want.

I have a BC who is just weird. It's much easier to list
the things that *don't* freak him out than to list the
things that do.

<SNIP>

Kathleen

------------------------------

Subject: Re: Disgusting ...

Re: Disgusting treat for Muttley
by <DelusionalDimensionsRecoveryDDR@[EMAIL PROTECTED]

> Jan 8, 2008

HOWEDY kathleen you Pathetic Miserable Stinkin Rotten
Lyin Animal An Child Abusin Punk Thug Cowards And
Active Accute Chronic Life Long Incurable Malignant
MaliciHOWES MENTAL CASE,

"Kathleen" <khhfmdeletethis@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message news:hYsgj.28$gH2.13@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> mike wrote:
>> I have seen this type of thing personally, among different types of
>> animals, and humans.. It would be what is called 'common knowledge'.
>> Mike.

> Oh, bull****.

Mike is correct, kathleen <{}: ~ ) >

> I've got three dogs, athletes,

You call your dogs "athletes" on accHOWENTA
they're ESCAPE ARTISTS <{}: ~ ( > IN FACT,
WON of them CRIPPLED herself ESCAPIN.

> purebreds born of planned breedings who've never missed a meal in their
> lives,

Probably not.

> have never had a hand lifted to them in anger

That's a LIE, like EVERY THING you've ever posted here, kathleen.

> and they still wolf their food.

Dogs wolf their food when they're INSECURE.

> Breakfast and supper take approximately one minute to consume.

On accHOWENTA they EXXXPECT the other dogs will ATTACK
them an STEAL it from them. It's all in your own POSTED
CASE HISTORY of LIES ABUSE and INSANITY, below:

HOWEDY Kathleen,

"Kathleen" <kathleen.dick...@[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
news:f46dbd96.0309202313.249961de@[EMAIL PROTECTED]

> Agree in general.

Care to discuss what you don't agree with?

> Behavior problems can be caused by bad parenting,

Not bad parenting, just simple MISHANDLING, as
taught by HOWER expert behaviorists and teachers.

> when it is not an organic disease.

Right. Hyperactive kids and dogs do not have ritilin deficiency.

Drugs can be used effectively to help train the
brain to achieve a calm state, but not if they're
used daily for long term, that DEFEATS the purposse.

The same same same same methods and philosophies
taught by The Puppy Wizard to HIS FREE WWW Wits'
End Dog Training Method Manual Students apply equally
as well, to children.

> My mother was insane, and I am autistic,
> http://www.actionlyme.com/CAROLYN_MARTIN.htm
> I obviously also have Lyme disease, now. Carolyn Martin
> says no, I don't have Lyme disease, am just insane. I'm pretty well-known
> in the Lyme community because I testified at the FDA and ActionLyme broght
> down that 200 million
> dollar FRAUD of a Lyme vaccine. You can read about it in
> the "ActionLyme History."

Yes, we had a dog on rpdb die from that crap.

> High Functioning Autism is the opposite of insanity.

Ain't no such thing as INSANITY. That's SUBJECTIVE.
Take a look at rpdb. You'll see INSANTIY as the NORM.
EveryWON there IS INSANE, but they've congregated
together and DEFEND THEIR INSANITY by ALL BEING
"NORMAL."

Ask ed w of PET LOSS dot COIN. He's the chief SCREWBALL,
but he's only ACTING INSANE, to RIP THEM OFF for their
hard earned dough. eddie MAKES HIS LIVING off of DEAD DOGS.

> My father was a design engineer for a jet engine company
> and my nephew is autistic, also, with a very high IQ. So high,
> the school says they can't asses it.

SHOWENDS EXCITING!

> Carolyn Martin says he does not have autism, just Neurofibromatosis.

Neurofibromatosis is a STRESS INDUCED AUTO IMMUNE
DIS-EASE. There's a great deal of that and similar DIS-EASES
amongst HOWER dog lover's NEUROTIC dogs.

> Autism was his *first* diagnosis, and he had
> a speech therapist when he was little.

Good.

> Kathleen Analytical Methods Development Pfizer, Inc (disabled due to Lyme
> disease)

===========

Thank you, Kathleen.

HOWEDY kathleen you pathetic miserable stinkin lyin
spammin slanderin defamin dog child an horse abusin
punk thug coward active accute chronic life long incurable
mental case,

"Kathleen" <khhfmdeletet...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message news:ip3gj.
9$l...@[EMAIL PROTECTED] diddy wrote:
>> It sounds so whacked out, I'm embarrassed to explain it. But since you
>> asked..

Yeah. That's BHOWEND to cause lots of EMBARRASSMENT.

> I'd start with putting fresh batteries in the smoke and carbon monoxide
> detectors, and not just because of the possibility of a wiring problem.

INDEEDY.

HOWEver, most folks change batteries when they reset
their clocks at daylight savings time twice a year <{}: ~ ) >

> When the battery in the smoke detector in our hallway is getting
> weak it begins emitting periodic chirps; easy for me to miss, at least at
> first, amid the noises of a busy household.

Yeah. Well, that wouldn't happen if you was to change the
batteries on a regular schedule like HOWE NORMAL folks
do it.

> Zane notices it right away, though.

Naaaah?

> The first time I saw him react I thought he was nuts.

It was mutual, no DHOWET <{}: ~ ) >

> He spun around, stared at the ceiling (I thought) and barked.

INDEED? That's curiHOWES. Dogs are only PAINICKED
by strange sounds when they're VICTIMS of ABUSE <{}: ~ ( >

LIKE THIS:

HOWEDY kathleen you pathetic miserable stinkin lyin
spammin slanderin defamin dog child an horse abusin
punk thug coward active accute chronic life long incurable
mental case,

"Kathleen" <khhfmdeletet...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message news:rGFfj.1117$dP7....@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> donnad6...@[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> I have three black labs. We have a kennel for our dogs, but it is
>> uncovered and the two younger labs always climb over the top. We live
>> near a busy highway and are afraid to leave our dogs outside in their
>> kennel at any time.

kathleen can't leave her own dogs together alone
otherWIZE they'll ATTACK EACH OTHER <{}: ~ ( >

>> We have covered the kennel with a tarp, but they still are able to break
>> the ties and get out.

> Put a plywood lid on the existing kennel.

That's a EXXXCELLENT alternative to TRAININ them
not to want to ESCAPE their HOWESES <{}: ~ ) >

> I'd probably add at least a little pitch to it to direct the rainwater
> drainage but that's climate specific.

Does kathleen suppHOWES you live in a
area where there AIN'T NO RAIN?

> Paint it. Match it to your house or do a mural. Or if you've got any
> leftover shingles that'd work, too.

That's very clever of kathleen. Perhaps she'll offer some designs?

HOWEDY kathleen you pathetic miserable stinkin lyin
spammin slanderin defamin dog child an horse abusin
punk thug coward active accute chronic life long
incurable mental case,

"Kathleen" <khhfmdeletet...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message news:38y6j.86$XH3.29@[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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> Umm. Excuse me,

You don't have to be so POLITE, kathleen, you're amongst
like minded folks who likeWIZE jerk choke shock bribe crate
intimdiate an surgically ***ually mutilate an MURDER
innocent defenseless dumb critters an LIE abHOWET IT <{}: ~ ) >

> I don't mean to complain,

We get used to COMPLAININ here by listening to your
dogs bark whine an cry while you ignore punish and
intimidate them <{}: ~ ) >

> but could you guys maybe ease up on the precipitation just a little? Or
> else drop the temperature a few degrees so at least the mud would freeze?

That's a lot far removed from the realm of DOG TRAININ, ain't it?

> I wouldn't ask for myself, it's just that my dogs really miss flyball
> practice and hiking and the lack of exercise is getting to them.

Oh yeah. as 'z dog wheeesperer' sez, "EXXXORCISE, DISCIPLINE
an THEN AFFECTION" are the keys to psychological dog trainin.

> Zane and Cooper have been being quite rude to each other

Naaaah?

Have you ever heard of alellomimetic behavior?

> and I'm getting tired of intervening in squabbles

Oh? You mean, SIBLING RIVALRY?

HOWE COME your "QUIT IT" COMMAND AIN'T WORKIN?

Well, it's your "intervening in squabbles" that REINFORCES
your dog's fear aggressive hyperactive behaviors <{}: ~ ( >

PERHAPS you should let them FIGHT IT HOWET?

> over things like, "Yeah, I growled at him. He was eyeballing me".

Oh, you mean JUST LIKE HOWE you TAUGHT them by deamonstration?

> So if you guys could see your way clear to answering your humble
> disciple's prayers,

As you're probably aware, PREYIN takes a principle role
in WIZARDRY. For EXXXAMPLE, you can make a potion
to cast a SPELL, HOWEver, you cannot cast a spell
or even make a potion, withHOWET PREYIN.

PREYIN ain't particularly encouraged here. HOWEver,
your like minded pals will likely send you some good
thoughts an wish you LUCK that the WEATHER changes.

BE ADVISED, HOWEver, "LUCK is for SUCKERS. NEVER
make a SUCKER'S BET," The Puppy Wizard's DADDY <{}: ~ ( >

> I'd be most grateful, and will burn incense in your honor.

You mean, to influence the weather?

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Grand, Puppy, Child, *****, Birdy, Goat, Ferret, Monkey,
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aggressive hyperactive HOWETA CON-TROLL dogs.

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Grand, Puppy, Child, *****, Birdy, Goat, Ferret, Monkey,
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hyperactive dogs won't MURDER EACH OTHER or
DROP DEAD from STRESS INDUCED AUTO-IMMUNE
DIS-EASES a.k.a. The Puppy Wizard's Syndrome <{}:* ~ ( >

HOWE abHOWET a blood sacrifice?

> Or at least spray some Holiday Scented Air Freshener.

NOT the same, kathleen. You don't happen to have a
active volcano you could throw a couple virgins or an
old slanderHOWES dog abusin whore into?

> Thanks in advance.

HERE'S HOWE COME your dogs FIGHT:

HOWEDY kathleen,

"Kathleen" <khhfmdeletet...@[EMAIL PROTECTED
> wrote in message news:9WR5j.
964$Aw4....@[EMAIL PROTECTED]

> chm...@[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> Has anyone used www.dogtravelcompany.net to book either a flight or a
>> vacation package? My husband and I want to go on vacation with our 2
>> labs and just found
>> this company.

>> They're the only company I've ever seen that let's you fly with your dogs
>> in the cabin.

INDEEDY! And you could certainly take advantage
of a nice arrangement like that when you hand deliver
your sister's puppy mill puppy to his new owner:

"In other news, I will be taking advantage of an
extraordinary oportunity for travel. On January
18th I will be flying to Chicago to meet my sister
and our mom, and from there we will be heading
across the Atlantic to Spain.

My sister is delivering a Norwich terrier puppy of
her own breeding to a buyer living just outside of
Madrid, then we will embark upon a 9 day tour of
the country.

Wish us luck - I'm having a hard time imagining how
we're going to keep a 4 month-old puppy happy and
quiet during the 13 hour flight.

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That's EZ, kathleen. All you gotta do is learn
a little bit abHOWET doggy behavior <{}: ~ ) >

> A total rip-off.

That so?

Might you be the SAME kathleen who's own dog
CRIPPLED HISSELF tryin to ESCAPE you pupperty?

Might you be the SAME kathleen who COULDN'T
TRAIN her own horse and had to GET RID OF IT?

Might you be the SAME kathleen who's own
terrior won't murder a rat on accHOWENTA
he's AFRAID of them?

Might you be the SAME kathleen who's own
dog PISSES HISSELF when her darlin husband
comes into the HOWES?

And might you be the SAME kathleen who'd only
show pictures of your dog MURDERIN a innocent
defenseless dumb critter to like minded souls?

AS STATED in your own POSTED CASE HISTORY below?

Might you be the SAME kathleen who
SELLS CRAPOLA
on the web?:

Kathleen Hansen
715 Brickingham Drive
Saint Peters, Missouri 63376
kh...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://webpages.charter.net/dhfm/ZControl.html

You know from personal EXXXPERIENCE HOWE
difficult it is to establish a REPUTATION as a
TRUSTWORTHY, legitimate business person when
startin a new business.

> Run away as fast as you can.

Perhaps we should wrap HOWER legs so's we don't
get abrasions on HOWER ankles in the scuffle like
HOWE your own ill trained fear aggressive hyperactive
HOWETA CON-TROLL dogs do?:

"Only four races in between... Do I dare leave him
wrapped, or will his feet wind up swelling? And if I
DO leave the Vetwrap on him, will he shred it as
soon as I turn my back?"

There had to be a better way.

--------------------

And INDEED, there IS, kathleen!

malinda has told us she sees such booties litterin
the Arctic tundra like discarded condoms.

Hey kathleen, have you ever heard of these terms?:

defamation
noun
1. a false accusation of an offense or a malicious misrepresentation of
someone's words or actions

2. an abusive attack on a person's character
or good name [syn: aspersion]

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li?bel
noun, verb, -beled, -bel?ing or (especially British)
-belled, - bel?ling.

-noun 1. Law. a. defamation by written or printed words,
pictures, or in any form other than by spoken words or gestures.

b. the act or crime of publi****ng it.

c. a formal written declaration or statement, as one containing
the allegations of a plaintiff or the grounds of a charge.

2. anything that is defamatory or that maliciously or
damagingly misrepresents.

-verb (used with object) 3. to publish a libel against.

4. to misrepresent damagingly.

5. to institute suit against by a libel, as in an admiralty court.

slan?der
-noun 1. defamation; calumny: rumors full of slander.

2. a malicious, false, and defamatory statement or re****t:
a slander against his good name.
3. Law. defamation by oral utterance rather than by writing,
pictures, etc.

-verb (used with object)
4. to utter slander against; defame.

-verb (used without object)
5. to utter or circulate slander.

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"My JRT is skittish around men, including my
husband, and he was never abused or neglected."

My JRT, Cooper (a two year-old neutered male), has a
similar problem, although only with my husband. Dad
has to maintain a very low-key, neutral, matter-of-fact
demeanor around Cooper, especially when he first gets home.

Kathleen

--------------------------

That's curiHOWES. Submissive urination, like
FEAR of NOISES and ESCAPE behavior is
CAUSED BY MISHANDLING.

You can CURE submissive urination NEARLY
INSTANTLY if you know HOWE.

LIKE THIS:

From: Eric
To: jho...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Friday, November 29, 2002

Subject: just checking in...

Jerry!

You helped me with my pal Dundee about a year ago regarding
submissive peeing. Just wanted to let you know he's doing
great- he was "cured" in about 2 days using your techniques!
He has since become the "smartest dog in the world"! Once I
stopped thinking like a human and got inside his head, I can
teach him ANYTHING, usually in a matter of minutes. Makes me
look like an expert dog-trainer.

I rescued two strays last week, cleaned 'em up, wormed 'em,
and am getting them their shots. Time to get inside their
heads and teach them to teach themselves how to be good dogs!
Instead of feeling like "training" is a chore, I look forward
to working with these guys a couple times a day...

Although I don't follow your instructions "to a T",
I learned from you to "think like a dog" and stimulate
their brain rather than beating ass or pinching, or any
of that nonsense. I know damn well I would NOT be loyal
to someone who beat MY ass lol!

Well, just wanted to thank you for rattling the bushes out
there and teaching folks the RIGHT way to "train" dogs. A
horseman friend of mine uses very similar techniques in
training his horses- he calls it "natural horseman****p". He
is hated by nearly all the local "trainers" yet somehow he
repeatedly wins at every show he attends. He rarely shows any
more, but goes now and then to rub their noses in it (pun
intended)... Too cool....

Have a great holiday season and keep up the good work!

Eric , Dundee, Sammy, and Maynard

====================

I had a BC, a horrible escape artist who had learned to
stick his head into the shadow box fencing and use it to
lever to pry off boards so he could go bumming around the neighborhood.

Obviously the canine spine is not made to deal with this.

The docs at the ortho clinic did the dye test on the
spine and called me with the news that it was most
probably cancer - they said they were about 85 percent
sure. Said there was evidence of a mass well above
and below the disks that were supposed to be ruptured.

And that the kindest thing might be to not allow him
to wake up from the anesthesia.

I was flabbergasted. Devastated. How could cancer have
such a sudden onset? And my own vet had been so certain
that it was trauma...

So I said "absolutely not" to immediate euthanasia. Told
them to proceed with the surgery. Open him up and see what's
in there. If it was the disks, patch him up, and if it was
cancer, just debulk the tumor, get as much of it out as
possible to relieve his pain and buy him some time.

It was the disks. They'd ruptured with such violent force
that the squishy stuff inside had spurted all up and down
the spinal canal - that's what they'd been seeing on the
dye test. It still makes me sick to my stomach to think
about what would have happened if I'd been willing to
follow "expert advice" instead of my own instincts.

Connor had staples in his neck holding the incision closed.
12 days post op I took him to have them removed and the
incision just FELL OPEN.

Thank god it happened before we left the office. Healing
was delayed by the oral steroids he'd been given to try to
relieve his pain prior to his consult at the ortho clinic.

They re-stapled him and we returned again in another 14 days.

This time it stayed closed.

As I recall, I kept him crated for that first month,
taking him outside in the yard on a belt that wrapped
around his waist so as not to put any strain on his neck.

He was so relieved not to be hurting anymore that I
had to keep him confined to stop him from doinging
around like a maniac.

-------------------

Dogs are TERRORTORIAL critters by NATURE.
Dogs ONLY run away from their HOWESES when
they're ABUSED by ignorameHOWESES like yourself.

Coincidentally, horses train an handle JUST LIKE DOGS:

*For the regulars, my daughter was finally convinced that
Luna, her mustang, was never going to be a safe, fun horse
to ride. After months and months of dedicated training
she was still making frequent, spirited attempts to murder
anyone sitting on her back.

Albert is keeping her, though, and trying to get his hands
on her brother so he can use them as a matched pair to pull
a buckboard at next year's Chuckwagon Races.

Reno, her new horse, is a sweetheart.

-------------------------

culprit wrote:
> if you snapped a picture of your proud dog with his first kill, would you
> post a picture of it? someone at work posted a great pic of her JRT
> carrying a squirrel (nearly his size!) to the dog group there. she was
> very proud of him. a bunch of other people jumped in saying how horrid it
> was to post pix of dead animals. i don't think it's any different than
> posting a pic of a retriever with his first bird.

> what do you think? how would you react to something like that?

I wouldn't have a problem with it. But I know for
a fact that there a lot of folks who would. Personally,
I'd only share a photo like that with kindred souls.

I have a young JRT named Cooper who refuses to go
to ground at the local EarthDog Fun Days. He's scared of
the rat in the cage.

I suspect his phobia relates to an incident last year. We
had an invasion of mice in the pantry. Lots of ruined food,
and it reeked of rodent.

I had to clean everything out, and purchase gnaw-proof packaging.

I also put baited traps on the pantry floor.

Now, I was in the next room, so I don't know exactly
what happened, but I heard the "snap" of one of the traps
going off, and then Cooper and both of the BCs came flying
around the corner, tuck-tailed, wild eyed and scrambling for
purchase on the Pergo.

I don't know which of them set the trap off, but it
evidently impressed the hell out of all three of them.

And I think Cooper associates the smell of rodents with
nasty snappy things.

I'd like to see him be able to do the things his
breed is famous for, and I've been told that the best way
to "boost his confidence" would be to purchase a rodent
and let him kill it. But I just can't do that.

Even though I eat meat, drink milk, wear leather and
kill wild rodents with traps. Too many of my kids'
friends keep vermin for pets, and I can only imagine
the reaction that my 4th grade son would get on Monday
morning when the kids in his class share the interesting
things they did over the weekend.

Unfortunately, personal philosphy aside, you
have to decide whether the end is worth putting up
with Joan Q. Public's reaction.

Kathleen Hansen
Z-Control Skid Boots
Leg armor for gonzo dogs!
http://webpages.charter.net/dhfm/ZControl.html

--------------------

From: Kathleen <khhfmdel...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2005
Subject: Re: curious crate question

Sionnach wrote:
> "Kathleen" wrote:
>> Each of my dogs has his or her own crate. I never expect them to share
>> except for very brief periods.... They tend to be pretty territorial
>> about their "bedrooms", and I don't ever leave them unsupervised when
>> I've got more than one in a crate for fear of a brawl breaking out where
>> nobody can retreat.

> Interesting - that's the exact opposite of the way my guys look at it.
> Mine each have their own, although they're never used at home any more,
> only at trials. Bren and Morag were crated when I first had them, for
> their own safety, but neither has been in a crate in my house for years -
> in Bren's case, for nearly a decade. Rocsi was crated at home maybe twice
> when she was a puppy. We also crated the girls in the bedroom at my S.O.'s
> house for the first couple of months after he got Lacey (also female) in
> March; that's long since been phased out. The main reason we crated my
> girls, incidentally, was that Rocsi kept trying to play with Lacey during
> the night, which didn't make for peaceful sleep. Secondary reason being
> that Morag and Lacey were both a bit possessive of my S.O., which has
> since been sorted out. It was never much of an issue, though, since both
> he and I have clear "pack leader" status with all five dogs. At home
> during the day, they all three sleep together in my bedroom -which is the
> equivalent of being crated together - and I've never had a problem. We've
> also left four of the five dogs alone in Bob's bedroom for several hours
> during the day, and again no problem. At trials and practices, I've never
> seen the slightest amount of territorial behaviour over who gets in which
> crate; I can crate any two of them or even all three together, and the
> only issue that arises is that Brenin will sometimes complain if one of
> the girls is touching him when he's not in a snuggling mood. Morag and
> Rocsi like sharing a crate, and often cuddle together. The only real
> reason I crate them seperately is to avoid snarfing of each other's food,
> and to simplify after-run rewards and swapping dogs between runs.

The only time I use the crates at home is if somebody's
sick and needs to be confined, or if we've got guests with
very young children (it's the kids I don't trust, not the
dogs), or if we've got workmen around the place...

In that case Scully has to be crated because she won't
stay out from underfoot, Cooper, because he forgets
they're there and has to sound the alarm every time he
comes around the corner and notices them again, and
Zane, because he freaks them out by lurking around
and staring balefully with his wolfy yellow eyes.

At tournaments, though, their crates are their castles
and they are masters of their domains. I'm happy that
they have a spot where they feel safe when they need
some alone time and a break from all the excitement.

Kathleen

--------------------

You're FULL OF CRAP, kathleen. Your dogs are
fear aggressive and hyperactive and submissively
piss themselves an run HOWET on you on
accHOWENTA you're a PATHETIC MISERABLE
STINKIN LYIN dog child an horse abusin COWARD:

How in the world can you sit there and let her lick and
push at you for *an hour*? You really do need to consult
a trainer, I don't even know where to begin with this.

And if the behavior doesn't stop I get up and do whatever
is necessary to stop it. Somebody goes off my lap, outside,
in their crate.

You need somebody to teach you how to teach the dog.

Kathleen

-----------------------------------------

BWEEEAAAHAHAHAAA~!~!~!

Oh, you mean, LIKE THIS?:

Newsgroups: alt.mountain-bike
From: Kathleen <khhfmdel...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2005

Subject: Re: dogs?

Correct. It would be almost impossible to outrun (or outride)
anything larger than a schnauzer. And some dogs are like cops.

Very strong prey drive... If you flee they'll chase you.
And if they chase you, they'll probably catch you. And
maybe bite you, too, in all the excitement. Don't act
like prey. (And just be glad that dogs don't carry tasers.)

> If you don't need it as a barrier, raise the bike over your head to appear
> even larger. (This is assuming real danger, and not just a few little
> scrappers.)

That only works if you're facing wild dogs in the
Australian outback and you happen to be a little
aboriginal boy. Use your "wrath of mom" voice.

A loud "AHHH AHHH!!!! WHAT ARE YOU DOING?!
GIT HOME RIGHT NOW, BAD DOG!" works pretty
well, and you can do that keep the bike between you
and the dog, and get hold of your frame pump all at
the same time.

> If no time for all that, a strong cleated foot to the mouth will usually
> shut the mutt up. (Should be the owner getting it, of course, but don't
> play around with getting bit.) Frame pump also handy.

Last resort. And make damned sure you connect if you kick
or take a swing at the dog, because even a lame-assed, half-
hearted feint of gesture will be read as "game on" by an
aggressive dog.

Aim for the snout.

Kathleen

------------------------

From: Kathleen <khhfmdel...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2005 12:13:25 -0500
Subject: Re: It's happened again...

White Monkey wrote:
> I expect her attitude toward Walter might also change
> toward thinking of him as human once he says her name...

Probably not quite that soon. The ****ft for my dogs
came when my daughter was about 2 1/2. Old enough to
walk steadily upright, good voice control and rapidly
improving hand/eye coordination. She'd seen me do it
a million times, but the first time she faced down a
pair of charging BCs, raised her right hand palm out
and snapped "SIT!"

I don't know was more surprised, my daughter or the
dogs, whose butts had automatically dropped to the floor.

He has started saying, "DAGA!" when we see
dogs, sometimes, so I think he means "doggie"
but won't swear to it yet.

I think that's probably what he means. That's how both
of my kids started off saying "dog". And then I noticed
that when we were playing word games, or looking at
pictures, when I pronounced "dog" emphatically, there
was a distinct expulsion of breath behind the hard "g"
sound. "DOG(uh)". The kids were mimicking exactly
what they were hearing.

Kathleen

Putting the wastebaskets out of reach is one of the
most elementary dogproofing steps. If your parents
won't shut the doors, would they maybe agree to
setting the wastebasket(s) up on the counter, or the
back of the toilet tank, or on the dresser top?

Yeah, maybe the dog ought to learn to stay out of them,
but I prefer to pick my battles, and just closing the
doors made it a non-issue for my dogs.

If it's any consolation all of mine seemed to outgrow
their trash fetish. I can't remember the last time I
saw anybody running around wearing a wastebasket lid
like a necklace.

Kathleen

I would say it's fine *but* keep an eye on the situation
and make sure the dog understands that sharing space with
the baby is a privilege and not a right.

Our BCs were allowed to lie on the baby's blanket with her,
although I had to draw a line when I caught Molly rolling
the baby over with her nose to make more space.

She tended to treat the baby as a cross between a large,
bald, pink puppy, and an automatic yogurt dispenser. That
dog could hear a wet burp from across the house and would
come on the run to clean her up.

My daughter said "dog" before she said "mama".

Kathleen

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From: Kathleen <khhfmdel...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005
Subject: Re: Nervous Jack Russel?

William wrote:

<snip>

> A recent tactic we're using is for me to greet him in the garden, but he
> still does his little rain dance when my wife's there with me. He doesn't
> rain on her parade, or on the kid's either, but he always rains on mine.
> I'd hate to think I make him nervous.

Of course you make him nervous. He has a guilty conscience.
He knows you're the alpha in the household, and he's appeasing
you with a submissive display all the while plotting to overthrow
you in a major coupe. ;-)

"Viva la revoluccione!" says Cooper, AKA Wee Man
(and not just for his stature, either)

Kathleen

THAT'S INSANE~!

Newsgroups: alt.sewing
From: Kathleen <khhfmdel...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]

On a more basic level, we use clicker training
to teach focus - the dog is rewarded for watching the
handler's face in anticipation of the next command.

I also used clicker training to shape and reinforce
Cooper's flyball box turn and am currently using it
to teach him to stand still and straight for measurement -
he's a height dog and must submit to handling and
manipulation by a stranger.

That's going a little more slowly since it really
runs against the grain for his personality, but
we're making steady progress.

Kathleen

BWEEEAAHAHAHAHAHHAHHAHAAA!!!

THAT'S HOWE COME HE'S FEAR AGGRESSIVE. YOU CON-TROLL
HIS BEHAVIOR AND SO HE CAN'T LEARN SELF CON-TROLL.

LIKE THIS:

From: Kathleen <khhfmdel...@

Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005
Subject: Re: My Rottie is a bummer

I have a BC who is just weird. It's much easier to list
the things that *don't* freak him out than to list the
things that do.

<SNIP>

Kathleen

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UNSKILLED AND UNAWARE OF IT:

HOW DIFFICULTIES IN RECOGNIZING
ONE'S OWN INCOMPETENCE
LEAD TO INFLATED SELF-ASSESMENTS

Across 4 studies, the authors found that participants scoring in the
bottom quartile... grossly overestimated their test performance and
ability. Although their test scores put them in the 12th percentile,
they estimated themselves to be in the 62nd.

http://www.apa.org/journals/fe-atures/psp7761121.pdf

- Never attribute to malice that which can be
adequately explained by stupidity.

- Sufficiently advanced incompetence is
indistinguishable from malice.

- Insufficiently advanced malice is indistinguishable
from incompetence.

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From: "Ms. Mick"
Subject: Re: Dog will not listen to anyone but me!

"The Puppy Wizard"
wrote in message news:rQpW8.66560

> It'd take fifteen minutes to train this dog to come to EVERY member
> of the family if you knew HOWE, Master Of Deception blankman.

Okay, I gotta speak up here... We've been using
Jerry's methods with our dog. We had the same
problem as the original poster has with Buzz.

One day working with the family pack exercise
and practicing the recall command with the family
and she'll now go out with hubby and daughter
instead of needing me to reassure her or even
refusing to go with anyone but me.

I really urge you, regardless of the negative
things you might hear about Jerry & Wits' End
here, to try the method and *judge the results
for yourself*.

Let's see what other areas she's improved in...
always comes when called, not chewing stuff even
if we leave it laying around, "re"housebroken after
long shelter stay, walks perfectly on leash, doesn't
try to steal food from our plates or beg... probably
a few more things I'm forgetting to mention.

That's in about a week's time.

Her overall demeanor has changed. When we brought
her home she was very untrusting and ultra-submissive
(except with her area/toys where she was possessive
and nippy). She had been abused and beaten by previous
owners, then she was in a shelter for months. They
(most of them) wanted to give up and kill her

Now she's gained confidence and trust with us.
Last night was another big breakthrough (in my eyes).
She barked! Big deal, she barked just once when she
heard the front door. Great!

Anyway, you'll be told lots of nasty stuff about
Jerry or that the Wits' End manual is culled from
other sources. In my opinion, even if it is, it
takes only the good stuff and leaves out the bad.

Works for me.

(And I suppose I gotta say this... I don't know
Jerry personally. I've emailed him and instant
messaged him.

I have not bought a "Doggy Do Right".
He's offered help for free.)

From: "Ms. Mick"

Subject: Re: Dog will not listen to anyone but me!

"michael" <c...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message news
3D2BD729.12A6E...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]

> Tell me, Ms Mick, what's Jerry paying you to be a paid shill? I want you
> to be a paid shill for dogtv.com networks from now on. I'll double what
> Howe's giving you, and then add on 50% MOORE as a bonus. Is it a deal?

Ooh.. $0 + 50%, what a dream! :)

To the other posters, just what exactly is
plagiarized in the Wits' End manual? I'll
get whatever book you claim the material to
be from to check it out. You prove it to me.
I don't have the problem training this dog
(using the Wits' End manual).. seems everyone
else is having the problems with their dogs.

People ***** that I'm not giving advice, then
***** again because they disagree when I do.
I don't care. All I know is that my dog is
doing well.

When I said "culled" I meant that what I consider
bad methods are left out. I've already stated that
I think choke/pinch/shock collars, crates, food
bribes, and other punishments are unnecessary.

If a book recommends them,it either goes in the
trash or back to the store. I've given up on dog
training books. I'm not going to devote time reading
books that go against what I'd do to train a dog.

I don't care if the authors are "experts" or not.
Some people here have said, "I thought I'd never
do X either until..." or that there is value in
all tools. Uhm... I'm sorry. A shock collar, for
one example, has no positive value whatsoever. If
you think it does, you wear one for a day and let
somebody "correct" you for whatever they like.
At the end of the day you'd probably want to slap
that person silly. I'm not willing to compromise
my views. I will *never* use those methods.

I've taken back book after book because it claims
to be compassionate or non-force. I open the book
and it's a lie. Last book I glanced at was "Good
Owners, Great Dogs". First page I flipped to was
a picture showing how to teach sit by jerking a
choke collar while pu****ng down the dog's back
end. Lots of pictures showing how to jerk that
leash... *sigh*

Oh, and I once upon a time I thought I was safe
buying that book by Monks. Monks! Sadistic
bastards who *hit* and jerked dogs into submission.

This is not my first dog. I've had dogs in the
past and not used any formal training methods with
them, just my normal belief that all dogs can be good
dogs with positive feedback and without punishment.

It always worked. After my last dog died (about 10
years ago) I didn't get another. I've wanted to
during this time, but I had a divorce, a child,
and other things that took most of my time. For
the past three years I've really missed having a
dog around. So, on my birthday, my husband said,
"Let's go to the shelter." I actually found her
on petfinder.com first.

My current dog needed me to come along or she
would be dead now. I'm not exaggerating, the
vet at the shelter wanted to kill her the day
we brought her home. Why? Because she was a
behavioral nightmare for them.

People wouldn't look twice at her after she
snarled at them and warned them to get away
from her cage. They couldn't look past the
tearing up garbage, fear, abuse, and
housebreaking problems that were listed in
her bio.

We had filled out the paperwork to adopt her
on Saturday, and they stretched the waiting
period out from 24 hours until Tuesday. Why?
Because the vet didn't want to take a chance
on her and wanted to kill her! I think he was
hoping that the long wait would make us give up,
but all it did was encourage us to visit her
every day, take her for walks, and bring her
stuff from "home". Luckily, one of the dog
handlers there was sane and stood by us when
we went there on that Tuesday and demanded that
they let us take her home. She's recovering now
and getting better by the day.

I can't have a dog that pulls on a leash or jumps on
me or anything like that. I'm disabled from a car
accident 15 years ago. I can walk (slowly) and all
that, but lack the balance and strength to survive
a dog dragging me around on a leash or knocking me
over. I'd never be able to catch her if
she decided to run away.

I *need* a well-behaved dog. If my dog wanted
to, she'd have me on my butt in two seconds. I
don't have that problem though.

So excuse me if I come here and get upset when I
read a bunch of posts giving "advice" to "train"
dogs by the "experts" that'll make the dogs just
as messed up as mine was when I first met her.
(She had such fear that everything she did was
going to mean being hit or her paws squeezed or
be locked up that she would get ultra-submissive,
anxious and would pee all over.

She's a big enough dog (Rott/Shep. mix) that if
she would have decided to attack instead, she
could cause major damage. Lucky she was kept
in a cage/tied up, huh?) It tends to upset me
a bit, and all my niceness goes right out the window.

I mistakenly thought that these dog groups would be
a positive experience, but for the most part they've
just made me angry. "Dimpled Chad" has been polite
and helpful, but almost everyone else seems to have
a problem with me speaking my mind.

M.
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HOWEDY Vi,

"Vi" <futurei...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>
>> Anybody still wonder why I stay out of public dog parks?

Naaaaah. kathleen is AFRAID to take her fear aggressive / shy / hyperactive
submissive urinating dogs HOWET in pubic; it's ALL in her own POSTED CASE
HISTORY <{}:~ ( >

If ALL temperament and behavior problems are CAUSED BY MISHANDLING
then it "SEEM" we got a LOT of dog lovers here abHOWETS who DON'T WANT
TO LEARN HOWE to pupperly raise handle an train their dogs horses an
children,
just like HOWE your newfHOWEND PAL kathleen has learned the HARD way <{}:~
( >

> Hi Kathleen,
>
> Dog parks are a great place (most of the time).

Yeah? You couldn't tell goin by kathleen's own POSTED CASE HISTORY.

> My family and I have made fantastic friends who we visit even
> outside of the park.

kathleen an her ilk AIN'T GOT NO FRIENDS on accHOWENTA she's a
pathetic miserable stinkin rotten lyin spammin slanderin life-long INCURABLE
Malignant MaliciHOWES animal murderin MENTAL PATIENT.

> People who go to dog parks love their pets so much that, unfortunately,
> sometimes a even a minor comment about a dog can end up as a personal
> attack on the owner.

People like kathleen who post their LIES IDIOCY INSANITY INTIMIDATION and
ABUSE here to The Simply Amazing Puppy Wizard's forums are INCURABLE
MENTAL PATIENTS, at least ACCORDIN TO THEIR OWN POSTED CASE
HISTORIES <{}:~ ( >

> It's like telling a mum that her kid's not as cute as the one next to it.

Sometimes the TRUTH HURTS <{}:~ ( >

> There are bad parts in every social event attended to by a diverse
> number of people. Not everyone can like each other and that's pretty
> natural.

Unlike bein POLITE an HOWEspitable <{}:~ ( >

Them's is LEARNED qualities which require a degree of FINESS <{}';~ ) >

> It's a matter of going to a place where you enjoy the
> majority of people and can get past the bad bits.

Yeah? Well, THAT'LL take quite a bit of REALLY REALLY
HARD WORK to get past all them "BAD BITS" <{}:~ ( >

> We've been going to that park for about 4 years now. In that time, our
> girl has been bit over 10 times (thankfully nothing serious), but it's
> the people and their animals that keep us going back.

"Seem" the PROBLEM is you dog lovers DON'T KNOW
HOWE to pupperly raise handle an train your dogs:

"Now because your brainiac husband took it upon himself to
poke his nose in and cause trouble there have been over 20
letters of complaint sent to council about old mates dogs
behaviour because I decided rather than growl at a fool or
kick a mans unruly dog I would vent my anger by getting
people to fill in a complaint and send it to council."

Your newfHOWEND LYIN ANIMAL MURDERIN MENTAL
CASE PAL kathleen's dogs GOT THE SAME PROBLEMS.

> There are some truly decent people and great dogs around

INDEED?

> (restores your faith in humanity, as sometimes I wonder if there's any).

Well then, THAT'S HOWE COME I've CITED kathleen's own POSTED
CASE HISTORY of LIES INTIMIDATION INSANITY and ABUSE <{}:~ ) >

> It's just a matter of finding a place that you like...

kathleen DON'T LIKE bein arHOWEND other dogs or folks
who may COMPLAIN that she's HURTIN an INTIMIDATIN
her dogs in pubic <{}:~ ( >

> if you want to go to a dog park, that is.

INDEED?

"Your brainiac husband lost old mate a supporter. Now because
of your brainiac husbands trouble making I no longer encourage
people to try and praise old mates dog and reassure it to prevent
problems, I suggest that should their dog get attacked that they
immediately contact police about a breach of the companion animals
act, get a good description of the owner and their registration plate
and make a formal statement."

But of curse you KNOW that ALL temperament and behavior
problems are CAUSED BY MISHANDLIN, JUST LIKE HOWE
kathleen's fear aggressive hyperactive submissive pissin dogs
was HURT and INTIMIDATED into submission:

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