Message from discussion Halti Headcollar vs Pinch Prongs for training

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Subject: Re: Halti Headcollar vs Pinch Prongs for training
Date: 18 Sep 2006 08:46:52 -0700
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Todd H. wrote:
> "Paul E. Schoen" <pst...@smart.net> writes:
> > The trainer added extra links to size it properly. She connected the leash
> > also to the choke chain as a backup, fortunately.
>
> Both collars simultaneously?   This seems extremely unorthodox, and in
> fact may have led to the release of the clasp.
>
>
> > Each of the links could be fairly easily squeezed and removed. It may have
> > become tangled with the choke chain to make it pop open. It opened between
> > a pair of links, not at the clip.
>
> Oh, yeah... I'm not an expert on these topics, but having 2 collars on
> at once with any training collar just seems like a recipe for
> disaster.  Do you get the feeling your instructor is competent?
> --
> Todd H.
> http://www.toddh.net/

Actually, using a prong collar with a separate oversized collar such as
a choke chain is very common when working with dominant/aggressive
dogs.  Reason being prong collars can pop apart if force is exerted
just right on them by a powerful dog.  I don't usually use the prong
collar on my dog, but I highly recommend them as I found it
instrumental initially with my dog.  Once in a while I will throw it
back on him, but if it is in public I always have a separate oversized
slip collar also attached to the leash.  You don't want the second
collar to administer a correction, it is simply there so you don't lose
control of your dog in case the prong collar comes apart.