Message from discussion Muttley's First Class (double entendre acknowledged)

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From: "Paul E. Schoen" <pst...@smart.net>
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs.behavior
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Subject: Re: Muttley's First Class (double entendre acknowledged)
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 15:52:48 -0400
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"Janet B" <ja...@bestfriendsdogobedience.com> wrote in message 
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> On Wed, 13 Sep 2006 01:00:25 -0400, "Paul E. Schoen"
> <pst...@smart.net>, clicked their heels and said:
>
>>
>>I will do some more work with Muttley using the small prong collar, and I
>>may try a larger one which may provide better control.
>
> The small links generally offer more "oomph", believe it or not.
>
When he was very distracted or intent on going somewhere, he pretty much 
ignored the pinch collar and was mostly restrained by the choker chain and 
my brute force. The pinch collar also came loose at one point, so I think a 
larger, stronger version may be better. I'll get one and see how it works, 
and then we can decide.

>>It may just prove
>>necessary to use such a fearsome contraption on my dog because he is so
>>literally and figuratively headstrong.
>
> Get over the fearsome stuff.
>
>> I will certainly still make sure his
>>attitude toward me is one more of respect and affection, rather than 
>>fear.
>
> Pinch collars and training (asking for something and following
> through) have nothing to do with fear.  If you're under that
> impression, we need to change that.  Being a strong leader doesn't
> mean putting the fear of god into the dog.
>
Fear may not be the right word. It is probably more of an expectation of an 
unpleasant correction when a command is not obeyed quickly, and praise when 
it is. Right now, however, it seems that he is just too distracted by what 
he wants to do, and not much concerned by my attempts at correction.

>>I think his overall lack of aggressiveness, and general calmness, show 
>>that
>>he is not overly stressed, but fairly well adjusted. I hope he/we can 
>>make
>>good progress over the next several weeks.
>
> I anticipate coming next week - how has the "sit on it" been going?
>
At home, Muttley is more relaxed, and I did a "sit-on-it", outside, for 
more than half an hour while I read a magazine, and he just sat there or 
laid down quietly. Fortunately there were no major distractions like 
squirrels, deer, or the cat. He usually does not require much attention 
when indoors, except when he is hungry or needs to go out.

I need to work more on heeling, especially. In general, I think he needs to 
pay more attention to me, and ignore distractions.

Paul