Barking at night for no reason
Moonlit...@hotmail.com
for no reason whatsoever. It started last winter when he was acting a
little goofy. He sat in the bathroom doorway (with nobody in the
bathroom) and just stared at us, refusing to leave for a long time. We
thought he was acting a bit strange and that night he would let out
soft growl and then bark. He'd repeat this every few minutes
throughout the night. He wouldn't have his ears pricked or be looking
at anything in particular when he'd do it. He'd just lie there and
pant. Naturally I thought he just had to go outside but he went out
and didn't even have to go.
He's started doing it again now. Barking for absolutely no reason.
He's not growling like he did last year, but he'll just lie there
(awake) letting out a bark or two every few minutes.
Janet B
their heels and said:
>
>
> He's started doing it again now. Barking for absolutely no reason.
>He's not growling like he did last year, but he'll just lie there
>(awake) letting out a bark or two every few minutes.
I have a cat with several issues. I was talking to her vet the other
day and mentioned that she acts very much like an elderly person with
"sundowners". Basically, it's a type of dementia that manifests
itself when the sun goes down, so depending on season, late afternoon
or early evening. The fact that it's getting dark so early means we
have more exposure to an animal who may suffer from this (in the
summer, they'd be turning in by the time it would be affecting them).
Cognitive disfunction is common in the elderly of many species. Talk
to your vet about it.
--
Janet B
www.bestfriendsdogobedience.com
http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/bestfriendsobedience/album
Michael A. Ball
> Our old Chesapeake Bay Retriever mix has been barking indoors at night
>for no reason whatsoever. It started last winter when he was acting a
>little goofy...
You might not know what the reason is, but *there is a reason*! This has been going on for
a very long time. Surely your dog has been seen by your vet during this period? I strongly
suspect this behavior is being caused by a physical ailment that is over due for medical
treatment.
Whatever it takes.
flick
news:1129845849.8...@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
My Shar Pei (rest her soul) started doing this, too.
In her case, her vision was getting worse from cataracts, and probably a bit
of senility. When it started getting dark, she couldn't see as well and got
kinda lost. I would put a leash on her at night and lead her to my bed.
I think you should take your dog to the vet.
flick 100785
>
ThePupp...@animail.net
Moonlit...@hotmail.com wrote:
WELCOM BAAAAAACK!
> Our old Chesapeake Bay Retriever mix
A dog is is dog, despina.
> has been barking indoors at night for no reason whatsoever.
Your dog barks because he's AFRAID because
YOU ABUSE HIM, despina <(@}; ~ ) >
> It started last winter when he was acting a little goofy.
No despina, dogs DO NOT ACT GOOFY, they ARE AFRAID
because they're MISHANDLED and ABUSED, despina <(@}; ~ ( >
> He sat in the bathroom doorway (with nobody in the
> bathroom) and just stared at us, refusing to leave
> for a long time.
Your dog was TELLIN you he's UNHAPPY and DOESN'T TRUST YOU
because you jerk and choke and punish and IGNORE HIS CRIES.
> We thought he was acting a bit strange and that night
> he would let out soft growl and then bark. He'd repeat
> this every few minutes throughout the night.
Your dog is DYIN from STRESS, despina.
> He wouldn't have his ears pricked or be looking
> at anything in particular when he'd do it. He'd
> just lie there and pant.
Your dog is havin ANXXIHOWESNESS ATTACKS, despina.
> Naturally I thought he just had to go outside
> but he went out and didn't even have to go.
Duh?
> He's started doing it again now.
And so you're askin the SAME DOG ABUSING MENTALLY
ILL COWARDS who gave you the SAME ADVICE the last
two times you posted abHOWET your dog's OBSESSIVE
COMPULSIVE PHOBIAS, despina. Your dog COULD DIE
from this and YOU DON'T CARE EXXXCEPT for that IT
DISTURBS YOUR BEAUTY REST.
> Barking for absolutely no reason.
Your dog is barking because you are a self absorbed
dog abusing pathological mental case, despina.
> He's not growling like he did last year,
BWEEEEEEEEAAHAHAHAHHAHAAA!!!
> but he'll just lie there (awake) letting
> out a bark or two every few minutes.
Here's EVERY THING you gotta know abHOWET your dog:
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http://www.irishdogs.ie/Information/Wits_End_Dog_Training.pdf
You could EXXXTINGUISH his FEAR BEHAVIOR by PRAISING
HIM but YOU WON'T because YOU PREFER to PUNISH HIM:
: Tues, Oct 26 2004 5:53 pm
Subject: Re: Argh! He did it AGAIN!
HOWEDY despina,
"Despina" <Moonlit_Sorc...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:20ab140d.04102...@posting.google.com...
> He went pee a gallon full outside before my
> mom left in the morning. I was in bed for a
> hour and a half after she left before I got up.
> When I got up there were SEVEN piles of
> crap and some pee in the basement.
Your dog is havin "separation anxiHOWESNESS"
on accHOWENT of you lock IT in the basement.
> My mom says, "There's NO WAY this
> is a health problem because
On accHOWENT of he only DOES IT when he's anxiHOWES.
> before we stopped letting him run loose outside
> he could go for hours before going,
Your dog is messin your HOWES on accHOWENT
of you're mishandling him. You could CURE this
"PROBLEM" in a few minutes, but you won't, on
accHOWENT of DECENT PEOPLE DO NOT POST
here abHOWETS.
SHORE, you're just a KID, but you're a dog
abuser from a long line of abusers, on accHOWENT
of INBREEDING ain't PHYSICAL, it's SPIRITUAL.
"Birds of a feather."
> if he had a health problem
HE DOES have a heelth problem. He's
got a LIFE THREATENING heelth problem.
YOU.
Your parents are not concerned. YOU ARE.
But you don't have the CHARACTER to DO
what you need to do to SAVE YOUR DOG
from GETTIN MURDERED.
SHORE you're JUST A KID, but you're the
ONLY WON in your HOWES who KNOWS
HOWE COME your dog is DYIN and you're
too STUPID SELFISH ANGRY LAZY and
you don't possess the INTELLECT to HOWEtwit
the cunning of the domestic puppy dog even
after The Amazing Puppy Wizard and all HIS
100% CONSISTENTLY NEARLY INSTANTLY
SUCCESSFUL FREE WWW Wits' End Dog
Training Method Manual Students told you
HOWE they done it EZ GENTLY NEARLY
INSTANTLY and FOR FREE, to boot.
> he'd go while we're at home, he was fine all
> weekend while we were at home." Now it's not
> just my dad that's pissed off at him, it's my mom too.
And you could CURE this problem in a few
minutes, but you'd PREFER TO MURDER
YOUR DOG, you lazy stupid kid.
> We're going to have to chain him outside when
> we leave, but my concern is that when the snow
> starts, he's going to freeze out there.
ENJOY MURDERIN YOUR DOG, kid.
> My parents are ready to get rid of him if this doesn't stop.
THEY'LL MURDER IT.
> Like I said, this only started after he stopped
> being allowed to run loose outside, so my mom
> thinks he does it "out of spite".
You're driving your dog INSANE lockin IT
in the basement, you simpleton.
> I suggested going to the vet,
THAT'S SHEER IDIOCY. The dog needs
apupriate HANDLING not MEDICATION.
You could TRAIN HIM in WON DAY, but
you WON'T on accHOWENT of you don't
have the CHARACTER MORALS or ETHICS
to do so.
> but she says, "There's nothing physically
> wrong with him, he's just pissed off."
THAT'S RIGHT. YOU'RE DRIVIN YOUR DOG
INSANE AND THEN YOU'LL MURDER IT.
> What the heck are we going to do with him?
SAME SAME as you'll do with an unwanted
child if you get bagged pryor to gettin married.
YOU'LL MURDER IT on accHOWENT of THAT
is your HUMAN NATURE.
The Amazing Puppy Wizard. <{) ; ~ ) >
The Puppy Wizard Oct 20 2004, 6:18 pm show options
From: "The Puppy Wizard" <ThePuppyWiz...@EarthLink.Net>
Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 22:18:53 GMT
Subject: Re: Old dog that won't stop going in the house
HOWEDY despina,
"Despina" <Moonlit_Sorc...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:20ab140d.0410...@posting.google.com...
> It's me again,
WELCOME BAAAACK.
> you might remember me from back when
> I asked how to get our dog to stop acting
> agressive around leashed dogs.
ALL aggression is FEAR.
ALL FEAR is CAUSED BY MISHANDLING.
That MEANS we can EXXXTINGUISH
aggression NEARLY INSTANTLY, by
apupriate NON PHYSICAL conditioning.
> That problem never got solved,
SHAAAZZZAAAMMM?
> but now we have a new one.
Duh-Oh.
Behavior problems which are ignored or repressed
change to other, often worse, seemingly non related
behaviors as replacement or TRAINsfer behaviors.
ALL behavior problems are the same same, they're
just wearin different clothes to fool you.
> First of all, he's an old Chesapeake Bay Retriever mix,
A dog is a dog.
> ten years old or older.
A three week old puppy got all the brains
he needs to do any thing you got the brains
to train him to do.
<snip>
> Rumor was that he was dropped off. Maybe he just got lost.
Dogs don't GET lost they RUN HOWET on their familys.
> When we first found him he had the habit of
> going to the bathroom and howling in the
> house whenever we'd leave him,
That's separation anxiHOWESNESS.
> but he got over that.
On accHOWENT of you punished him.
> But now he's doing it again
SHAAAZZZAAAMMM?
> and I seem to be the only member of the
> family who likes him anymore.
So you came baaaak for MOORE heelp like before.
> We can take him for a walk and he'll go outside
> right before we leave to go shopping or to the ibrary,
> etc. For the past few weeks when we come home,
> 9 times out of ten there will be some logs in the basement,
> always in the same spot, where it's slightly hidden away.
HOWEsbreaking is INSTINCTIVE. Dogs only have
HOWEsbreaking problems if they're SICK or UNHAPPY.
> Yesterday it was a ton of pee all over the carpet
> down there too. After he did it a couple times we
> laid down newpaper down there so he wouldn't get
> it on the carpet.
HOWER DOG LOVERS will tell you to take IT to
the vet on accHOWENT of they GOT NO METHOD
to train your dog not to fear and hate you for abusing
him.
> He knows it's wrong because when he's done it, he
> refuses to come downstairs and he sulks if he sees
> us cleaning it up.
Yeah. That's on accHOWENT of you PUNISH him
which is HOWE COME he's shittin an pissin your
HOWES.
> My family is mad at him and are even starting
> to talk about actually getting rid of him, something
> that I can't bare to think of.
They'll PROBABLY MURDER HIM like so many of
your PALS here, like deidre edwards with the same
same same same PROBLEM with her first ten year
old dog.
BWEEEEEEEEAAHAHAHAHAHAAA!!!
> I love Jack alot,
INDEEDY. THAT'S HOWE COME HOWER DOG
LOVERS ALWAYS PREFER TO HOLD THEIR DOG
DHOWEN for the vet to MURDER FOR THEM.
> but he's really starting to tick off my family.
Yeah.
> Yesterday when my mom was at work I took
> him in the backyard, and stood right beside
> him while he peed on the pine tree and then
> took off running for the field as fast as he
> could and I had to chase him down and
> practically drag him back.
SHAAAZZZAAAMMM?
> He bounded out of the weeds in the field,
> his usual happy grin on his face. That was
> after he went in the basement AND got on
> my parents bed, which he knows he's not
> allowed to do.
Right. You had enough yet?
> He knows because he jumps right off
> of it when he hears us coming.
On accHOWENT of you punish him.
> If he gets loose outside he runs off and
> comes back hours later, covered in mud.
Yeah. Surprising he comes back.
> A few months ago we had a choclate torte
> sitting out on the kithcen counter while we
> were doing dishes and my mom had to leave
> the room for a minte and when she returned,
> there was torte all over the floor and Jack
> standing there, choking it down. In July he
> got into the trash and got ahold of some red
> cake batter and got it all over his neck, the
> wall, and the toilet seat when he washed the
> batter down with toilet water.
Well that ain't NUTHIN compared to what your
PALS here got their dogs doin. They got dogs
that eat Gorrilly Glue and GET DEAD and swallow
filthy undies and get SURGERY.
You're LUCKY!
Ask YOUR PALS here HOWE to train your dog
not to steal from the C-HOWENTER or garbage.
> We do everything we can to try and correct him,
You HURT and INTIMIDATE him.
> but he seems to be too old and stubborn to be trained.
You AIN'T trainin you're abusing your dogs.
> I don't know WHAT the heck his previous
> owners taught him-apparently not much.
They either dumped him or he ran HOWET on them.
REMEMBER? At least he still comes baaaak to
you like HOWE you done to these good folks who
heelped you get your dog to this point in life.
> Anyway, stealing food,jumping on beds, and
> coming back in the middle of night covered
> in mud isn't the main issue now, it's going to
> the bathroom on the basement carpet.
It's ALL the same same same same.
> I say just lock the gate to the basement but my
> mom's worried he'll go on our new living room rug.
SHAAAZZZAAAMMM?
> I'm really worried that my parents are going
> to get rid of him if this doesn't stop.
Yeah. But you won't DO what you NEED to
save your dog from the needle. You'll hurt
and bribe and intimidate and avoid the problem
as your PALS here do and your parents will
MURDER him and you'll be passin the cryin
THOWEL and all your mentally ill lying dog
abusing punk thug coward pals will tell you
it ain't your fault and when you grow up you
can go into RESCUE like THEM.
BWEEEEEEEEEAAHAHAHAHAAA!!!
> They just don't have the patience for it anymore.
They don't have the INFORMATION THEY NEED
on accHOWENT of YOU WON'T GIVE IT TO THEM
on accHOWENT of you're busy askin liars dog abusers
punk thug cowards and active long term incurable
MENTAL CASES for advice they ain't GOT on
accHOWENT of ALL behavior problems are
CAUSED by mishandling as your pals advise.
> Even my brother is getting disgusted with his behavior.
Good. It's IMPORTANT that the entire
group AGREE to MURDER the dog.
> I just don't know what to do anymore.
You could CURE all those behavior problems
NEARLY INSTANTLY if you studied your FREE
copy of The Amazing Puppy Wizard's FREE
WWW Wits' End Dog Training Method Manual
available for FREE at http://www.doggydoright.com
> I love him and I wan't to figure out what's wrong with him.
Ask ed w of PET LOSS dot COIN or professor
dermer of UofWI ANAL-ytic behavior department.
The Amazing Puppy Wizard. <{) ; ~ ) >
Punishment Deranges Behavior.
"NO!" Does NOT Have Any Behavioral Function
EXCEPT
To DERANGE Behaviors.
Here's professor dermer pryor:
From: Marshall Dermer (der...@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu)
Subject: Re: Jerry's Dog Training Manual
Date: 2001-07-12 06:49:13 PST
And how do we know this aspect of his
advice is right?
Jerry is not God and his manual is not the Bible.
His advice could be subject to an empirical analysis.
(Also, it is best to killfile posts from the
few regulars here who are either ill-tempered,
ill-mannered, or just plain ill.),
--Marshall
"At this point, "No" does not have any behavioral function.
But, if you say "No,"pick up the puppy by its neck and
shake it a bit, and the frequency of the biting decreases
then you will have achieved too things.
First, the frequency of unwanted chewing has decreased;
and two, you have established "No" as a conditioned punisher.
How much neck pulling and shaking? Just the
minimum necessary to decrease the unwanted
biting.
**********IS THAT A CONSISTENT 5 SECONDS?************
When our dog was a puppy, "No" came before mild
forms of punishment (I would hold my dog's mouth
closed for a few seconds.) whereas "Bad Dog" came
before stronger punishement (the kind discussed above).
"No" is usually sufficient but sometimes I use "Bad Dog"
to stop a behavior. "Bad Dog" ALWAYS works," marshall
dermer, research professor of ANAL-ytic behaviorISM at
UofWI. For MOORE animal abuse, please visit dr p.
BWAHAHAHHAHAAAA!!!!!
That's INSANE. Ain't it.
Here's professor dermer AFTER gettin JERRYIZED:
"We Are Lucky To Have You, And More People Should
Come To Their Senses And Support Your Valuable Work.
God Bless The Puppy Wizard," Professor Marshall Dermer,
Dept Of ANAL-ytic Behavior, UofWI.
From: "Marshall Dermer" <der...@csd.uwm.edu>
To: "The Puppy Wizard"
<ThePuppyWiz...@earthlink.net>
Sent: Friday, July 23, 2004 2:53 PM
Subject: God Bless The Puppy Wizard
Dear Mr. Puppy Wizard,
I have, of late, come to recognize your genius
and now must applaud your attempts to save
animals from painful training procedures.
You are indeed a hero, a man of exceptional talent,
who tirelessly devotes his days to crafting posts to
alert the world to animal abuse.
We are lucky to have you, and more people should
come to their senses and support your valuable
work.
Have you thought of establishing a nonprofit
charity to fund your important work?
Have you thought about holding a press conference
so others can learn of your highly worthwhile
and significant work?
In closing, my only suggestion is that you
try to keep your messages short for most
readers may refuse to read a long message
even if it is from the wise, heroic Puppy Wizard.
I wish you well in your endeavors.
--Marshall Dermer
Subject: < BEFORE -> "Jerry, You filthy, Unctuous,
No Good Charlatan,"
< AFTER -> "Thank You Jerry For Putting Up With
A Constant Barrage Of Really Infantile
Crap At The Hands Of Supposedly Adult
Dog Lovers.
'Naive' Is Believing You Can Terrorize
A Dog Into Good Behavior," Robert Crim.
>Subject: Re: Fritz---a retrospective
>Date: 02/05/1999
>Author: Robert Crim <fritzg...@earthlink.net>
> You filthy, unctuous, no good charlatan. If you had
> any idea of what dogs and dog people were about
> you would realize the depths of the absolute loathing
> and contempt I hold for you right now. Were it not
> for the blessed distance and anonymity that the internet
> gives us from the scummy likes of you, I would probably
> be in a jail cell right now for turning you into the pile
> of shit you really are
Hey, Howe, you really are a wacko, eh?
Crim wrote this about *YOU,* you insipid piece of cow dung!
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
--
Dogman
mailto:dog...@i1.net
http://www.i1.net/~dogman
=====================
> On Thu, 17 Jun 1999 20:24:15 -0700, dogsnus
<"Terri"@cyberhighway> Wrote:>
> Hey, do like me, and killfile Jerry.
> He has millions of people aleady reading his posts and
> watching him extract his soggy foot out of his mouth!
> Out of these MILLIONS, I've only seen 2 naive childs
> come forward and actually believe in his training manual.
Robert Crim writes:
I assume that I and my wife are those two naive childs
since I freely admit to having read and, I hope,
understood enough of the manual and it's counterparts by
John Fisher and the posts of Marilyn Rammell to believe
and use it.
This naive child would like to say thank you to both
Jerry and Marilyn for putting up with a constant barrage
of really infantile crap at the hands of supposedly
adult dog lovers.
The other naive child (LSW) has to put up with the
nagging idea that if people like them had been posting
earlier, maybe we would not have had to hold the head
of a really magnificent animal in our arms while he was
given the needle and having to hug him and wait until he
gasped his last gasp.
To my mind, "naive" is believing you can terrorize a dog.
Naive is believing that people that hide behind fake
names are more honest than people that use their real
names. Naive is thinking that dilettante dog breeders
and amateur "trainers" like Joey (lyingdogDUMMY, j.h.)
are the equal or better than those that have studied and
lived by their craft for decades.
"Stupid" is believing that people do not see kindergarten
level insults for what they are. Really stupid is believing
that people like Jerry Howe and Marilyn Rammell are
going to just go away because you people act like fools.
Why do you act like fools? I really have no idea, and I
don't really care.
> And, to date: I've not seen ONE come forward and
> actually admit to buying and having success with his
> little black box.
I think I'm going to get one myself for Father's day and
take it down to the Animal Shelter for their use and
testing. You would never believe the results, so you'll
never know.
> Anyone by now that doesn't see a scam man coming by
> Jerry's posts deserves to get what is sure to be coming
> to him! LOL!
I don't see a "scam man", so I guess I and Longsuffering
Wife and Rollei will just have to get what we deserve,
eh? As Joey (Dogman) says, "poor Rollei.".......right.
>Terri
Yes it was, and that is sad.
Robert, Longsuffering Wife and Rollei (do I get to
listen to the box first?)
===========
Crim wrote THAT about *YOU,* tommy, "you insipid piece of cow dung!"
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
From: "George von Hilsheimer, Ph.D." <drv...@mindspring.com>
To: "Jerry Howe" <theamazingpuppywiz...@mail.com>
Subject: Alleged Professors of Animal Behavior
Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 12:50:51 -0400
Dear Jerry, I paged through some of the "dog business"
and was astonished at the low quality of opinions arising
from professors of behavior analysis.
I had the very great privilege of meeting Sam Corson
(Pavlov's last Ph.D. student) and his dogs at Ohio
University. I even got to spend a night at Sam's house.
There is no question but that you are a spiritual brother
to Corson and to Pavlov, both of whom knew that the dog's
great capacity for love was the key to shaping doggie behavior.
Paradoxical reward and paradoxical fixing of attention are
both well documented Pavlovian techniques. Even so humorless
a chap as B.F. Skinner taught students like the Breland's whose
"The Misbehavior of Organisms" demonstrate the utility of your
methods and their deep roots in scientific (as opposed to
commercial) psychology.
George von Hilsheimer, Ph.D., F.R.S.H.
you may find my resume in Who's Who in
Science and Technology
From: "The Puppy Wizard" <ThePuppyWiz...@EarthLink.Net>
Date: Wed, 03 Nov 2004 17:26:31 GMT
Subject: Dr. George VonHilshimer Writes: "No Loving, No Learning."
HOWEDY People,
Perhaps the PROBLEM is "TOO MANY WORDS?"
From: "The Puppy Wizard" <ThePuppyWiz...@EarthLink.Net>
To: "George von Hilsheimer, Ph.D." <drv...@mindspring.com>
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 4:40 AM
Subject: Fw: Counter Cruising must stop
> From: "diannes" <dian...@bolt.sonic.net>
> Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs.behavior
> Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 12:18 PM
> Subject: Re: Counter Cruising must stop
> > LeeCharlesKelley <kelleymet...@aol.com> wrote:
> > > I wrote:
> > > > LeeCharlesKelley <kelleymet...@aol.com> wrote:
> > > > > On another note: I understand why someone
> > > > > proclaiming a method that works on all dogs,
> > > > > all the time, would send up "red flag" to you
> > > > > and others, but the fact remains, if a technique
> > > > > *doesn't* work 100% of the time, with all dogs,
> > > > > then there must be a flaw in the philosophy
> > > > > underlying that technique.
> > > > Ditto for dog training. No failure nor flaw of method
> > > > is involved - that's just acceptance of reality.
> > > First of all, I didn't say that there was a flaw in the
> > > method, though anyone is welcome to make that
> > > leap.
> > > I said there was a flaw in the underlying philosophy
> > > and its model of learning.
> > Correction accepted. I think that perhaps we are using
> > terminology differently here. Here is my use of the terms:
Jerry, I don't know where you find these folk who can't read.
> In order to use negative reinforcement, one must
> typically administer the aversive stimulus in order
> to be able to terminate it.
This is not negative reinforcement. Negative means no.
Positive reinforcement = behavior emitted by dog,
reward emitted immediately by trainer;
Negative reinforcement = behavior emitted by dog,
no response by trainer;
Aversive reinforcement = behavior emitted by dog,
aversive stimuli emitted immediately by trainer;
The term "reinforcement is used only tentatively with
"aversion" because aversive stimuli (aka punishment)
typically derange learning and are not followed by clean
learning curves equivalent to those which follow reward
or positive reinforcement;
Escape conditioning = dog has an aversive stimulus
applied without any dog related reason and when
behavior is emitted aversive stim is immediately turned off .
There is some indication that Escape Conditioning
works in a manner closely approximating reward;
but, ear pinch? -- too aversive.
I remind you that you should beat them over the head
with "The Misbehavior of Organisms" by Breland and
Breland, published in B.F. Skinner's CUMULATIVE
RECORD. Ignored by most profs of psychology, but
the distillation of his work.
NO PUNISHMENT.
Must pay attention to who is the animal?
His evolution, his development, and his personal history -
cannot train without respect for who is the dog? So says
the BIG TIME operant conditioning guru - and you can also
refer back to MARY COVER JONES (mother of scientific
systematic psychology), no loving, no learning.
I suppose I could wire up a dog so that his brain was
badly interrupted and the loving method of puppy training
might not work well - but it would still work better than
the methods used by dominatrix and their ilk.
Lovingly applied ethological techniques like the one
espoused by the Wizard of ALL puppies work for all
dogs, for that matter for all mammals higher than cat.
Indeed, they will work for cats if trainer is warmly competent.
You can see this in Key West on any sunny day.
Housecats performing quite happily.
Fondly, Dr. Von
From: TooCool (larrym...@hotmail.com)
The Puppy Wizard's Wits End Training Method
I have studied canine behavior and dog training for
years. I have a huge library that covers every system
of training.
The Puppy Wizard's (Jerry Howe's) Wits' End Training
Method is by far the most scientific, the most advanced,
the kindest, the quickest and the most effective training
method yet discovered.
It is not an assortment of training tips and tricks; it is
a logically consistent system. Every behavior problem
and every obedience skill is treated in the same logically
consistent manner.
Please study his manual carefully. Please endeavor to
understand the basis of his system and please follow
his directions exactly. His manual is a masterpiece.
It is dense with theory, with explanation, with detailed
descriptions about why behavior problems occur and
how their solution should be approached.
One should not pick and choose from among his methods
based upon what you personally like or dislike. His is
not a bag of tricks but a complete and integrated system
for not only training a dog but for raising a loving companion.
When I once said to Jerry that his system creates for
you the dog of your dreams, his response was that it
produces for your dog the owner of his dreams.
You see, Jerry has discovered that if you are gentle
with your dog then he will be gentle with you, if you
praise your dog every time he looks at you, then you
will become the center of your dogs world, if you use
Jerry's sound distraction with praise, then it takes
just minutes-sometimes merely seconds-to train your
dog to not misbehave (even in your absence) (Just 15
seconds this morning to train my 10 week old puppy to
lie quietly and let me clip his nails).
Using Jerry's scientific method (sound distraction /
praise / alteration / variation) it takes just minutes to
train you dog to respond to your commands.
What a pleasure it was for me to see my 6 week old
puppy running as fast has his wobbly little legs would
carry him in response to my recall command-and he
comes running every time I call no matter where we are
or what he is doing.
At ten weeks old now, my puppy never strains upon
his leash thanks to Jerry's hot & cold exercises and
his Family Pack Leadership exercises.
Jerry has discovered that if you scold your dog, if you
scream at him, if you intimidate him, if you hurt him,
if you force him then his natural response is to oppose
you.
Is Jerry a nut?
It doesn't make any difference to me whether he is or not.
It is a logical fallacy to judge a person's ideas based
upon their personality. As far as dogs are concerned, Jerry
wears his heart upon his sleeve. It touches him deeply when
he hears of trainers forcing, intimidating, scolding or
hurting dogs.
More than that, he knows that force is not effective
and that it will certainly lead to behavior problems;
sometime problems so severe that people put their
dogs down because of those problems.
I believe that it is natural for humans to want to control
their dog by force. Jerry knows this too. We have all been
at our wits' end, haven't we?
Dogs have a natural tendency to mimic. In scientific
literature it is referred to allelomimetic behavior. Dogs
respond in like kind to force; they respond in like kind
to praise.
Don't bribe your dog with treats; give him what he
wants most-your kind attention. Give him your praise.
You will be astonished at how your dog 's anxiety will
dissipate and how their behavior problems will dissipate
along with their anxiety.
Treat Jerry Howe's (The Puppy Wizard) Wits' End
Training Method as a scientific principle just as you
would the law of gravity and you will have astounding
success.
Dog behavior is just as scientific as is gravity.
If you follow Jerry's puppy rules you will get a sweet
little Magwai; if you don't you will surely get a little
gremlin (anyone see The Gremlins?). --Larry
From: Mike (m.bidd...@ns.sympatico.ca)
Subject: Re: Info. on the puppy wizard?
Date: 2004-07-18 14:27:02 PST
> > Oh, and did I mention his methods work, ya nuff said.
> > Mike
> Ok Mike which part worked for you?
It helped clear problems from my dogs in the
field using the can penny distraction technique.
Works like a charm.
My dogs get distracted easy from their jobs ie,
retrieving or training to find lost people, oh did
I mention that I am a Search and Rescue Team
Leader.
Sorry that slipped my mind.
I have read volumes of training books and don't
know where people get that Jerry copied others
work as I have NEVER come across his methods
before. I would like to see proof.
Just like Jerry outlined I eliminated problems one
at at time as they arose. I used to try and train to
the way I wanted them but this is backward, you
train out the problems leaving what you want left over.
Funny part is the second dog who had the same
problems as the other didn't need correcting for
some of his habits after I cleared it from the first
dog.
Seemed he learned through osmosis.
Nice side benefit there.
It nearly came to giving them up to a 3rd party
trainer as they were not performing well. The
VAST majority of working dog trainers are
agressive in their actions with the dogs.
I tried it and it didn't work and guess what I
was at my "Whits End" then someone I new
turned me onto Jerry and the rest is history.
I referred friends and families to Jerry's manual
and all have had great results. Starting puppies
out on the distraction technique is especially
good because they never develop the habit.
I had my sisters dog healing, sitting and down
stay reliably at 8-9 weeks. The first night home
following Jerrys advice we ditched the crate and
put the pup on the floor beside the bed and after
2 whimpers NOT A SOUND OUT OF THAT DOG
FOR 6 HRS! first night, that has never happened
in all my days.
Sorry, the man understands dogs its that simple.
Mike
"Ama...@DCFWatch.com" wrote:
No, the dog learned that I would hold still
the second she began to pull. She would pull
to go where *she* wanted.
Well if she wanted to stop and go in another
direction.. say to sniff my neighbors yard..
she learned if she wanted to do it I would stop
walking and she could go.. and if there wasn't
enough slack on her lead she would just pull me.
Then when she got done doing *her* thing, she woudl
heel.. smile at me and wait for me to say "let's go"
and finish *my* thing. I would refuse to move .. i
looked like an idiot.. freezing mid walk for minutes
waiting for *my* dog to heel and give *me* permission
to go again.
I did the treats and the let's go... she got to do her
stuff and get a cookie.. if she even wanted the cookie.
I wound up calling Jerry.. as I have a half red nose
pit and half amstaff.. who is incredibly protective..
we had a new pup on the way.. and i needed help.. i
followed petsmarts trainnign guides.. memorized them...
and they *did* work, don't get me wrong.. but only
when my pet wanted a cookie or felt the cookie was
better than what she wanted.. which was not often.
She quickly learned to ignore my commands if she
could see my hands were empty. So I called Jerry...
he chatted me for about an hour and a half.. gave me
his link... and even when i had probs intro'ing the
pup he called me withn i5 mins of my email for help
at 10pm on a sunday night.
One.. singular.. uno family pack exercise after
the hot and cold exercise and i could zig zag
down my street.. about face .. whatever.. and
never had tension.
two men were acrossed the street and she walked right
by them... ordinarily she'd snarl and protect us.
And in two days.. my dog.. who bit the puppy if he
even looked like he was going near my husband or kids..
is nursing him every hour.. cleaning him.. rough housing
gently.. and teaching him to go potty outside..
actually watches him to make sure he doesn't go in
the house... and has milk.. which is awesome since
she's 19 months old and has never had a litter.
She also has stopped barking non stop at our neighbor's
dogs and pig.. does not bark at eveyr car that drives by
and has stopped jumping on people. she's even starting
to ignore our cat who has lived on her dome litter box
and our window sill (literally) for over a year and a half.
She also does her commands on cue.. and doesn't look for a treat.
From: "George von Hilsheimer, Ph.D." <drv...@mindspring.com>
Subject: The Amazing Jerry's take on psychobabble
Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 12:13:44 -0400
You might improve the learning of folk who actually
live with and train dogs to do useful things if you
excluded everyone who uses psychobabble from your lists.
I recommend to all of you who wish to taste the flavor
of sensible animal behaviorists to read THE MISBEHAVIOR
OF ORGANISMS, Breland and Breland.
This married pair of psychologists began the long trail
of highly trained animals who are symbolized by Shamu
eating a mackrel from a girl's hand instead of eating
the much more tasty pretty girl who is exactly the size
of the natural food of killer whales, seals. Yum!
The essay, by the way, is a chapter in B.F. Skinner's
summing up book, CUMULATIVE RECORD. They include a
sentence which more or less says, "unless you understand
the personal history of the particular animal, and the
history of this animal's species and group, the developmental
history of the animal, you cannot effectively train the animal.
Pigs root and hen's scratch, if you try to train hens without
scratching or pigs without scratching or pigeons without pecking,
you aren't going to have much success.
A conditional reflex is one which is learned, the original
primitive reflex occurs no matter what the history of the
animal, and is hard wired. If you train the animal to respond,
say by ringing a bell immediately before turning on a bright
light, then you've taught the animal and made his native reflex
of pupil constriction conditional upon the ringing of a bell.
Thorndyke added some terminology to this kind of training
and insisted that when you train the animal to make gross
motor responses that this learning is "instrumental", the
animal takes action and uses an instrument.
The Russian word translated as "conditional" in all other
contexts was mistranslated by Pavlov's American translator,
Horsley Gannt, as "conditioned" and so American psychology
went haring after phantasmagora.
The major theorists for the development of the language of
operant conditioning are Edward Thorndike, John Watson, and
B. F. Skinner. Their approach to behaviorism played a major
role in the development of American psychology.
They proposed that learning is the result of the application
of consequences; that is, learners begin to connect certain
responses with certain stimuli. This connection causes the
probability of the response to change (i.e., learning occurs.)
Thorndike labeled this type of learning instrumental. Using
consequences, he taught kittens to manipulate a latch (e.g.,
an instrument). Skinner renamed instrumental as "operant"
because in this learning, one is "operating" on, and is
influenced by, the environment. Where classical conditioning
illustrates S-->R learning, operant conditioning is often
viewed as R-->S learning since it is the consequence that
follows the response that influences whether the response
is likely or unlikely to occur again.
It is through operant conditioning that
voluntary responses are learned.
One should note that Russian Psychology did very well
without the operant language, and only pettifogging
university professors ought to worry about what kind
of label we attach to the learning. Pfui!
Even Skinner understood this!
And please note if you saw the original movie, THE
MANCHURIAN CANDIDATE, you saw a Chinese psychologist
who was based on Andrew Salter, CONDITIONED REFLEX
THERAPY.
Alas, Salter didn't have a Ph.D., but he basically rescued
us from the long Freudian nightmare and returned psychotherapy
to a scientific basis. Alas, the 2nd movie didn't even cite
Salter as a source. "...all the highest nervous activity, as
it manifests itself in the conditional reflex, consists of a
continual change of these three fundamental processes --
excitation, inhibition and disinhibition." Ivan P. Pavlov
George von Hilsheimer, Ph.D., F.R.S.H.
What's important is, "does Shamu reliably eat
the fish and not the pretty girl?"
George von Hilsheimer, Ph.D., F.R.
From: "George von Hilsheimer, Ph.D." <drv...@mindspring.com
To: <d...@arcane-computing.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 5:38 PM
Subject: Doggy advice
Scott, Jerry Howe forwarded me the letter below.
I'm glad that you referred negatively to Jerry's
habit of CAPITALIZING and HOWEING everything.
I personally hate this habit of his. I think it is his
way of diluting his authority - IME he is a very modest
fellow. However, contrary to your sneer, he is very
competent at living with dogs.
I thought I'd list a series of actions which I found
on the list, folk asking advice on what to do about
dogs doing this and that, for example:
whining,
humping, hunching,
pacing,
self mutilation - paw licking, side sucking,
spinning,
prolonged barking, barking at shadows,
overstimulated barking,
fighting, bullying other dogs,
compulsive digging,
compulsive scratching,
compulsive chewing,
frantic behavior,
chasing light, chasing shadow,
stealing food,
digging in garbage can,
loosing house (toilet) training.
inappropriate fearfulness
aggression.
The thing that is fascinating to me, as an ethologist who
graduated from college 50 years ago and has spent all of
the intervening time working with animals (including the
human animal), is that you never see any of these behaviors
in wild dingoes, jackals, coyotes or wolves, you don't even
see these behaviors in hyenas (who aren't dog related).
You see these behaviors in human managed animals, especially
animals who live with neurotic hysterical humans.
As Sam Corson (Pavlov's last student) demonstrated for
nearly 50 years at Ohio University (Oxford, O.) there
is no treatment more useful for dogs than tender loving
care.
George von Hilsheimer, Ph. D., F. R. S. H., Diplomate,
Academy of Behavioral Medicine
"Linda" <llindaleedan...@msn.com wrote in message
news:
I have been trying for the last 18 months to help my
dog who became fear aggressive at 18 month of age.
I do not know what started the problem but he came
aggressive first with dogs and then began lunging and
snapping at people. Until this time he loved everyone
and could play with any dog. He was well socialized
ad I took him with me everywhere.
At 13 months he passed the Canine Good Citizens
Test except he could let me leave him. I had used
clicker training to teach him manners and tricks but
it was not working on his aggression problem.
I took him to vets who suggested a low protein diet,
trainers who charged $800 to only make him worse.
They tried to use a prong collar and he froze, urinated
and tried to climb on my head to help him. they then
suggested a shock collar I knew this approach was not
working as he was becoming more aggressive.
I took him to an animal behaviorist with Ph. D. 400 miles
away who told me to "KEEP HIM SAFE" and read a book
on the fearful canine. I tried another trainer who tried to
use a nylon chock collar but it only made him worse.
I read hundreds of books,"CULTURE CLASH", "DOG
ARE FROM NEPTUNE", "THE OTHER END OF THE
LEASH", ETC looking for help. We finally went to Purdue
University Small Animal Behavior Clinic and they said he
had fear aggression, punishment would not work, use the
gentle leader and when out walking and he got stressed
have the people stop until he could get in control using
treats, and work on clicker training.
At that point I knew more about clicker training and using
the gentle leader than they did! Nothing was working--he
would not come when I called him and would run away when
I tried to catch him. I was afraid to walk him even in the
neighborhood as we had become that "mean dog and women who
hasn't trained her dog"
I went to four trainers in both Michigan and Florida who
were trainer/specialists in aggression and the last two
were so afraid of him they could not approach him. No one
said I should give up on him and kill him but they would
say "You have to realize he is dangerous and you are
responsible for him."
*(You got LUCKY, Linda... They coulda got Sunshine
DEAD on us. Damned near did... too.)
As last resort I tried the internet again--I had had on
going discussions with trainers from Triple Crown and Dr
Meister with out any help-and I found the ad to Doggy Do
Right and messaged Jerry to ask if this might help my dog.
He said solving the aggression problem was EZ but I could
not believe him even when I downloaded the manual.
The name of the method was right I was at my Wits End.
I had been working for 18 months!
Using the can sound three time he came, and still comes
from anywhere with the command-"comegoodboy" Next
I tried the can when walking him--when he saw a dog three
blocks away he went off-lunging and snapping-I used the
can sound and he looked at me like uhn?
I used it three more times and we got to the other dog-
-the looked at me wagging his tail--the other person
looked at me like why are shaking that can but just walked
on by.
When ever I try to explain about the sound people look at
me like "you must be out of your mind"
The results can make a believer!!!
Three weeks since beginning the Wits End Training
Manual program I walked him without the gentle leader
in a busy shopping area with many dogs.
He just seemed to not notice any one.
When people talked to him or ask his name he would
look at then and wag his tail and let then pet him.
I still can not believe the change in him--we can now
enjoy life out in public.
If I had not found the Wits End method I know there
was no hope for him and he would have hurt someone
Through all this he never growled at me, guarded his
toys or food or showed any sign of aggression with me.
My goal is to get the message out to all dog lovers that
dogs can be trained fast, easily and problems solved with
out force, pain, food or anything but sound and praise!!!!
I know most people would have given up on him a long time
ago but he was and is my life. Solving the problem was EZ
but only with the right approach-sound and praise.
I know because I tried everything else and nothing worked!!!
================================
From: Linda Daniel
To: Jerry Howe
Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 1:06 AM
Subject: Re: - Re: dog aggression
Thanks for writing--I would be happy to do almost anything
to get your approach out to dog owners as I know it would
save so many lives. I know at times I was so frustrated I
thought of giving up on Sunshine but of course I never would
have but many people would have. The world just does not
know you can train a dog in just a few sessions and actually
solve problems.
We will be here until late April and we really have no plans-
-just to enjoy the warmth and sun of Florida, so any time
you could meet us would be great. I drive so I would be
happy to come to you anytime anywhere!
We went to Celebration today and two little poodles got
right into his face and he just sat there--I GOT a little
scared but he handled it just fine.--a couple of times people
would ask his name and want to pet him and he just went
to them tail wagging and rolled over for them rub his tummy.
He really just is not concerned about people passing, even
those on rollerblades! I have always used a gentle leader
in public but he spent most of time rubbing his face on the
grass--today I used his collar and he was so much happier!!
Only problem is he will stop to smell and I can not get
stopped soon enough to keep the leash loose. He never
pulled ahead of me but when he gets into smelling I have
a hard time getting him going--at times I think he could
smell a blade of grass for 10 minutes.
I can never thank you enough for giving Sunshine back!!!!!
I wrote to Purdue and told them about him being able to
walk in a crowd with out the /gentle leader and not having
a problem with other people and dogs.
I told them their advice did not work. Their advice was
to use the gentle leader at all times and when he was
around people or dogs to have him sit and reward with
treats--one really good suggestions was to have people
coming toward us stop when he got stressed or aroused
and not move until we backed away-
- can you just see me yelling at people to stop on the street
until I get his attention with treats.
They also suggested the possibility of using drugs-prozac-
but thought he was too dangerous as the drug would make
him less fearful and then he might attack or become more
sure of himself and become dominate aggressive. Just had
to share their great advice with you but I am sure you have
heard it all--even I am becoming an expert on bad advice.
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Janet B wrote:
> On 20 Oct 2005 15:04:09 -0700, Moonlit...@hotmail.com, clicked
> their heels and said:
>
>
> > He's started doing it again now. Barking for
> > absolutely no reason.
Well, he probably needs a training collar and
a few good jerks and chokes to make him HAPPY.
> > He's not growling like he did last year, but he'll
> > just lie there (awake) letting out a bark or two
> > every few minutes.
The dog is havin PAINICK ATTACS just like your kat, janet.
> I have a cat with several issues.
Your kat is DEATHLY ILL because you surgically
mutilated his feet and punish scold and shock
IT because like despina aka moonlit_sorcery
you're a selfish cruel psychopath, janet.
> I was talking to her vet the other day
BWEEEEEEEEEEAAHAHAHAHAHAAAA!!!
You kat got MuncHOWESN By Proxy, janet. You're
MURDERIN your kat for the attention and sympathy
you elicit from your vet and the murderers at
your "SHELTER".
> and mentioned that she acts very much like an
> elderly person with "sundowners".
Elderly persons do not get "sundHOWEners", that's
somethin KIDS get from being OVERTIRED and MISHANDLED
like your kat, janet.
> Basically, it's a type of dementia
You're the MENTAL CASE with DEMENTIA, janet.
> that manifests itself when the sun goes down, so
> depending on season, late afternoon or early evening.
THAT'S ABSURD, janet.
> The fact that it's getting dark so early means we
> have more exposure to an animal who may suffer from
> this (in the summer, they'd be turning in by the
> time it would be affecting them).
Next month you'll be blaming it on the cold, janet.
You've blamed it on the heat and rain as well.
> Cognitive disfunction is common in the elderly
> of many species.
ONLY WHEN THEY'RE ABUSED AND NEGLECTED you freakin MENTAL CASE.
> Talk to your vet about it.
Misery LOVES company, don't it, janet.
Her vet AIN'T GOT NO CURE for FEAR, janet.
> --
> Janet B
> www.bestfriendsdogobedience.com
> http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/bestfriendsobedience/album
Here's The Puppy Wizard's SYNDROME:
From: "Jennifer" <msjh...@gmail.com>
Date: 13 May 2005 07:25:15 -0700
Subject: Re: diagnosis frustration
Janet B wrote:
>
> Even when the answers are bad, I like ANSWERS. Where
> my little Carey-kitty is involved, we never seem to have
> any. She's been "sick" for the last 3 years and we've
> never been able to figure out just what's going on with her.
> I'm trying to not add up the costs, as they just keep mounting.
I completely agree. Undiagnosable, untreatable problems are
incredibly frustrating. Thanks for hanging in there.
Your comrade in not-knowing-what-the-hell-is-wrong-with-her-cat,
Jennifer
From: Janet B <j...@bestfriendsdogobedience.com>
Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 08:30:03 -0400
Subject: diagnosis frustration
Even when the answers are bad, I like ANSWERS. Where my little
Carey-kitty is involved, we never seem to have any. She's been "sick"
for the last 3 years and we've never been able to figure out just
what's going on with her. I'm trying to not add up the costs, as they
just keep mounting.
Carey is an almost 12 year old tortie with numerous problems over the
3 years, related to behavior, urinary issues, weight loss, and early
on, paralysis as well. We've had tests out the wazoo, have seen
standard general practice vets as well as a neurologist, tried various
medications, and we still have no real answers.
I'm hoping those come soon, but the preliminary aren't great choices.
After raising her Elavil level to combat inappropriate urination, she
tore her ACL. That appears to be healing slowly. She's been at the
vet numerous times in the last few weeks and we started seeing a
different vet, closer to home this week.
That was after she projectile vomited 2 meals, and was passing bloody
urine, on Monday. After a few small puddles of that, her urine was
not bloody and she was back to eating without problem. All day
Tuesday was fine. Saw vet on Wednesday, and x-rayed her bladder, and
embarked on more tests (last full bloodwork was last August). She has
a HUGE palpable thyroid gland, yet her thyroid tests (free T-4 still
waiting) have all been normal. She weighs 7# and is skin and bones,
and has been for quite a long time. She eats well (1 full can of
Trader Joe's cat food and 1/2 can Fancy Feast daily) and plays with
the other cat, loves on the dogs, etc.
5 minutes after coming home from the vet on Wednesday, she squatted on
the floor and let loose a large puddle of bloody urine. No blood in
urine since. Her urinalysis shows no issues.
Her kidneys look fine on x-rays, but her test results show renal
insufficiency, but not failure.
We're still waiting for more test results, but so far, we have no
answers. Does anyone have any thoughts?
--
From: Janet B <j...@bestfriendsdogobedience.com>
Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 10:16:20 -0400
Subject: Re: diagnosis frustration
On Fri, 13 May 2005 08:57:31 -0500, kaeli
<tiny_...@NOSPAM.comcast.net> wrote:
> I'm sorry to hear Carey has been so sick.
> My first thought was not a good one -- cancer.
Thanks. Unfortunately, that's what my vet has said as well.
Having dealt with it with a few pets now, it didn't hit me
quite like the ton of bricks as the first time I heard that
diagnosis, but it still is hard to hear that it's a potential.
The last 2 days, she's been galloping and eating and acting
like "hey - I'm ok - no problem - don't worry about me!".
She's a tough little cat, but obviously not a well one.
She's adored by all beings in this household, so we'll do
whatever we need to for her as we find out (or not) more.
Right now she's curled up with her kitty-"brother" and
seems happy as she can be.
--
Janet B
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats.health+behav
From: j1b...@aol.com (J1Boss)
Date: 24 Feb 2004 16:08:06 GMT
Subject: Re: Russian Blue running away - help!
> From: "Gail" g...@earthlink.net
> I wonder if a scat mat will help. It is a mat that is
> plugged in and emits a mild shock when the animal steps
> on it. I don't know if people stepping on it will cause
> the mat harm, though.
>
> Below is a link to it. I used them near bookcases when
> one of my cats started urinating there. They were great.
> Gail
A scat mat directly in front of the door, can be stepped
OVER by the humans, but teach the cat to avoid the door area.
I think it's a great solution.
BTW they can run on a 9V battery, so no wires are needed.
They are fixtures on my leather furniture to stop kitties
from peeing there!
Janet Boss
Best Friends Dog Obedience
"Nice Manners for the Family Pet"
Voted "Best of Baltimore 2001" - Baltimore Magazine
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats.health+behav
From: Janet B <j...@bestfriendsdogobedience.com>
Date: Mon, 08 Aug 2005 14:18:15 -0400
Subject: Re: Electric shock pad
On 8 Aug 2005 11:03:01 -0700, "mystro"
<highpur...@gmail.com>, clicked
their heels and said:
>I'm trying to find a link or resource for purchasing training shock
>pad,a pad that gives a slight shock using flashlight batteries and
>perfectly harmless and from what little I've read..quite effective.
>Help :)
it's called a Scat Mat. Google that and you'll find several sources.
--
Janet B
www.bestfriendsdogobedience.co m
http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/ bestfriendsobedience/album
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats.health+behav
From: j1b...@aol.com (J1Boss)
Date: 03 Nov 2003 19:25:20 GMT
Subject: Re: Keeping cat out of room.
>From: "Iso" nos...@hotmail.com
>The mats, regardless of what you think WORK and are HARMLESS.
Just another opinion that Scat Mats are pretty useful tools.
Rather than have my youngest cat continue to ruin my
leather furniture, we have Scat Mats on the sofa and
chair.
When they are off, and we're sitting on that furniture,
Skip is allowed on and in our laps, etc. When the mats
are on, I can be happy with the fact that he's not
urinating on the leather!
The static charge isn't much at all - it's a deterrent,
and a good one.
Janet Boss
Best Friends Dog Obedience
"Nice Manners for the Family Pet"
Voted "Best of Baltimore 2001" - Baltimore Magazine
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats.health+behav
From: j1b...@aol.com (J1Boss)
Date: 04 Nov 2003 21:35:43 GMT
Subject: Re: Declawing: glad I took the time
Kaeli wrote:
> Some of us feel that declawing a cat is tantamount
> to torture. You don't torture something you profess
> to love. Period. You don't even take the chance that
> it might be tortured. Period.
I fully understand that (and the analogy of other groups
who feel strongly about issue "x"). I think there is a
very, very large group of people who choose or think about
declawing, do so not because they want to take a chance
that the animal they love may be tortured, but because
of a variety of experiences/advice that says it's an ok
thing to do (not torture in general - declawing!).
Take the neighbor's attitude ("just" a cat? NO cat is
"just" anything! ;-D). One shared by many, to some degree.
Lot's of priorities. Interesting thread on RPDB recently
about people willing to die/put themselves in the line of
fire for their dogs.
It was interesting to read the range of thoughts on such
a thing. Obviously, people give different weight to
different beings and things.
While I am their caregiver and friend, I don't put
pets in the same category as humans.
I declawed my first cat, because my experiences said that
is what you did with an indoor cat (had lived with many
cats owned by others). She used her claws inappropriately
as a kitten, and my meager attempts at clawing devices
didn't work, so I thought nothing of it.
Since she exhibited no obvious ill effects, my experience
(and hers as far as anyone could tell) was a positive one.
Knowing more of what it entailed, I chose not to declaw my
next cat (owned in tandem with cat #1 and then cat #3).
He was an adult acquisition and I knew such a thing would
be more difficult for him, but also, he was very trainable
and I didn't even consider it.
Cat #3 was a claw maniac, and due to my experiences with
Cat #1, I went ahead with a declaw. Once again, I have
never seen any backlashes due to the operation, and I
would put up with anything if I'm lucky enough to have
her for many more years, which isn't all that likely.
She's doing well on meds currently, and maintaining,
if not gaining any weight.
Once I was ready for cat #4, I knew that I wouldn't choose
this route again. Not because of gory pictures, not because
of scare tactics about what my declawed cat would become,
but because I realized that more tools could make the
difference and it wasn't something that I really wanted
to do.
I didn't want to cause a kitten pain (even though others
didn't seem to experience any!), nor any physical or
emotional problems. So, I have a fully clawed cat who
pees on things - oh well! ;-D He's a wonderful cat in
every other way!
> If you love your furniture more than your cat's right
> to not be mutilated, you are going to draw some venom
> in a cat newsgroup.
Again, why is it either/or?
Can't someone value their belongings and their cat too?
I choose to protect my furniture with Sticky Paws (I forgot
they were there - probably time to take them off - it's been
almost 2 years with no interest!) and with Scat Mats (not
from claws but from urine).
Some folks posting here think that's a horrible thing to do.
People who have obviously never felt a Scat Mat! But balloons,
snappy trainers, etc are recommended. A lot of contradictory
thoughts here, so I can't say that it's all rational.
Passion rarely is though - and I actually appreciate
that for the most part!
It's obvious that each one of us has our own limits.
Janet Boss
Best Friends Dog Obedience
"Nice Manners for the Family Pet"
Voted "Best of Baltimore 2001" - Baltimore Magazine
gn.net/kae lisSpace
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From: j1b...@aol.com (J1Boss)
Date: 23 Jan 2004 21:21:29 GMT
Subject: Re: Protecting leather furniture
> But would a scat mat keep a cat from clawing
> the side of the couch?
>--
>~kaeli~
no - it's only good for the pee problem!
Never showed any interest in clawing, and
"launch" marks disappeared easily, as good
leather "heals" itself.
Janet Boss
Best Friends Dog Obedience
"Nice Manners for the Family Pet"
Voted "Best of Baltimore 2001" - Baltimore Magazine
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats.health+behav
From: j1b...@aol.com (J1Boss)
Date: 04 Jun 2003 12:10:19 GMT
Subject: a few frustrations - a little long.
Mostly venting, but any thoughts are welcome!
#1 - Skipjack. 1.5 y.o. neutered male blue tabby.
Incredibly sweet and affectionate, sleeps against me
all night, on my lap every moment he can be. Eats well
(Solid Gold dry, various brands of canned - small amounts -
not much interest), uses his litter box, only scratches
his tree and a few mats that have been approved, and is
a very nice cat. Let's anyone carry him around forever
and is very social. Gets along well with 2 dogs and
another cat. But................
He also urinates on other things. Sofas (where we sit) -
frequency of maybe every few months. Wires. Phone or
speaker wires (thin), that are at floor level. Scrapes
around at them and urinates on them on hard surface flooring.
Maybe once every few weeks. Dog beds and dog's sofa
(I have baby mattress pads on these, under the covers
in order to just have to do wash!) - once every few
weeks. Guest bed - used or freshly washed sheets.
Full laundry basket - random, if available, not often.
Anything that can go in the wash has gotten soaked and
washed in hot water, Oxyclean added. Anything not machine
washable gets a thorough cleaning with Simple Solution Cat
Urine Cleaner (which I found seems to work better than Nature's
Miracle for this).
Feliway has been used to varying success.
Most recently, he urinated on a sofa cushion within a
few hours of spraying it with Feliway.
I have 2 cats, 2 litterboxes. One crystals, which he prefers,
one scoopable, which my other cat prefers. Both are kept
incredibly clean. No problem using the box, even when workmen
were in the room - I see him use it regularly and tell him what
a good kitty he is for doing so.
A little history - when he came home at 5 months old last
February (2002), he had a bad case of the squirts and managed
to fly around with liquid poop being released all over my sofas.
We cleared that up, washed everything thoroughly (sofas have
2 sets of machine washable slipcovers, and the leather sofa
he christened has a scat mat on it now), and thought we had
conquered any problems.
He is quite the perfect cat except for this issue and it's
very random as to where and when he decides to urinate.
I'm not happy with the situation of course, and can't quite
figure out what's going on. He doesn't have a UTI and has
normal elimination patterns as far as frequency.
He does not do this in my bedroom, the other guest bedroom,
the kitchen or dining room.
If you've read this far, I have another cat and problem! ;-D
#2 Carey. Almost 10 y.o. spayed tortie. Neurological problems
(probabl brain tumor, other things ruled out). Has been on Pred
and Valium for a bit over a year, and has dropped from a bit over
9# to less than 7# (all thyroid tests came back normal).
She's a happy and sweet cat who bugs me for her pills every
morning. She has a problem with raised (even happy) voices
where she attacks the dogs. I've talked about that here before.
The dogs are saints and have never reacted adversely to her
doing this. I can pick her up during these episodes and she
doesn't attack me, but is hell bent on trying to attack the
dogs. There have been times where the dogs noises have
triggered this. She gets along well with the younger cat.
She adores the dogs otherwise, and that's really the problem
more than the attacking (we've all kind of learned to live
with that!).
She obsesses over them.
When she was a kitten, she nursed on my Golden Retriever
so much that she needed surgery for hair blockage. She
ceased the behavior until she was 5.5 and when another
dog died, then she resumed.
She transferred that to another dog after the Golden died
1.5 years later, and now it's just increased to a difficult
level.
She does this to both of my dogs, mostly at nighttime or
whenever they are napping in my bedroom. She will do it
to the one dog in other locations as well. During the day,
it's not so bad.
The dogs look confused but tolerate it, even though she's
latched onto them with her mouth and rear claws. She
attaches herself to various parts of their bodies.
Nighttime is the problem - we're not getting any sleep!
Skipjack sleeps on the bed, the dogs sleep on their dog
beds or her favorite dog sleeps under the bed.
She will not leave her alone!
Poor Lucy gets up and leaves the room, only for Carey
to follow her, and she winds up pacing around, which
keeps us awake. She just isn't deterred. She can be
lifted off, tossed off, grumbled at, but she will not
leave the dogs alone until she's good and ready.
The only rooms that can be closed off are either across
the hall or under our room. She's a very vocal cat and
will meow like crazy if confined away from everyone else,
so that won't help sleep.
Any thoughts of novel things to try with either of these
kitties? I adore them but their habits are driving me
up the wall at times!
Janet Boss
Best Friends Dog Obedience
"Nice Manners for the Family Pet"
Voted "Best of Baltimore 2001" - Baltimore Magazine
HOWEDY janet,
Janet B wrote:
> On Wed, 7 Sep 2005 13:06:20 -0400, "Phil P." <ph...@maxshouse.com>,
> clicked their heels and said:
>
> > What an utterly stupid statement.
That's the price of admission, Phil.
> > I suppose you prefer kill-shelters that
> > take in every animal and kills 90% of them.
janet works with the kill shelter that murders
90% of their sheletered critters of which 10%
of janet's dog training STUDENTS like Nessa's
dogs are CUSTOMERS for their DEATH DEALING RESCUE..
> I prefer shelters who are honest in what they do.
Yeah. That's why you got mad at paulette "TOO MANY
NO KILL SHELTERS" nolan's offer to accept your
STUDENT Nessa's dogs when they turned on her thanks
to you and your partner sinofabitch jerking choking
shocking bribing and tying them to the bed and locking
them in the crapper and destroying her house and gettin
her evicted for barking complaints.
REMEMBER janet?
> Limiting admissions is one way of sending people
> to have their animals killed elsewhere,
You mean, like your own SHELTER, janet. You DO
rmember paulette was gonna "accept" your STUDENT
Nessa's owner aggressive dogs and murder them on
the sly so Nessa WOULDN'T GO INSANE *(round trip)
from MURDERING her dogs she TRUSTED YOU TO TRAIN,
the dogs you taught her to HURT and INTIMIDATE.
REMEMBER NOW, janet?
> and you know that as well as I do.
No janet. Dogs GET MURDERED in SHELTERS by
DOG MURDERERS like mikey ball and you. paulette
runs a NO KILL shelter. She tells folks she don't
MURDER the dogs she MURDERS like she was fixin to
do for YOUR STUDENT NESSA.
> "no kill of adoptable animals".
Yeah, he means critters that ain't in intractable
pain or needing extensive dramatic surgury.
> Isn't that a very interesting statement -
That NO KILL should mean NO KILLIN of animals
that can LIVE without being in intractable
pain or needing extensive expensive dramatic
often futile surgeries, janet? That's quite
a change up from what your shelters offer.
> so open to interpretation.
You mean NOT MURDERING INNOCENT reasonably HEELTHY
ADOPTABLE CRITTERS?
> > No, Boss Janet. I mean a shelter that limits
> > their admissions to only enough animals that
> > they can properly care for for the rest of
> > their lives if necessary -
That'd require some THINKING CARING PERSONS.
> Keep them warehoused?
You mean KENNELED, janet? Kinda like a racing
Grey Hound or zoo critter or ETHICKAL BREEDER'S
BROOD STOCK, janet?
> Is that life?
Whatever, it beats the crap outta GETTIN MURDERED by
a RESCUER like yourself and paula "kind2dogs" nolan.
> > and doesn't hire people who believe in your methods
> > of choking and beating dogs into submission.
>
> Since I don't choke or beat dogs,
Not since you got your SHOCK collar, janet?:
"> So, I prefer the better fitting nylon slip collars,
That so? You mean when you ain't jerkin and
choking the dog on your pronged spiked pinch
choke collar, janet...
> and very often, pinch collars (small link
> unless it'sa freaky dog,
You mean those FREAKY dogs that STRUGGLE when choked, janet?
> then they need the milder medium link).
RIGHT... so they don't BREAK their thin slip chokers...
> But I use e-collars too. With one of my dogs
> and with some clients.
You mean, the dogs you CAN'T HURT ENOUGH with
your pronged spiked pinch and slip choke collars,
janet <{); ~ ) >
> For circumstances where a physical collar and
> leash is not the right answer."
Like when you know the dog will turn on you
for jerking and choking IT, like nessa's dogs.
> I have no clue what you're talking about,
Phil was talkin about THIS:
"J1Boss" <j1b...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040324071828...@mb-m18.aol.com...
> He was next to me and I could see his neck
> muscles pulsing. He didn't even blink an eye.
> Janet Boss
"sionnach" <rhyfe...@msn.com> wrote in message
news:c3qi15$2biuoh$1...@ID-45033.news.uni-berlin.de...
> "J1Boss" <j1b...@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:20040323173916...@mb-m17.aol.com...
> > > I can't imagine needing anything higher
> > > than a 5 with it, even with an insensitive
> > > dog like a Lab.
An INSENSITIVE DOG???
> > I can't remember what model of Innotek I have, but
> > I had apointer ignore a neck-muscle-pulsing 9.
> but then again, neither do you!
We was talkin about THIS:
"Tricia9999" <tricia9...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20021117101433...@mb-cg.aol.com...
> how effective are these electronic fences in
> keeping a dog on a property????
Some run through it. Others get shocked and become
too scared to go out in the yard anymore.
Just heard of a guy that has to rehome his dog,
because the dog got caught right in the path of
the shock and will now not go near his person,
won't go outside.
Just hides under a desk in the house.
Here's your PARTNER who heelped nessa train her dogs:
"The actual quote is misleading when taken out of context"
sinofabitch writes:
> >> What I have said- repeatedly - is that he took
> >> posts from two different people,
Of curse THAT'S a lie.
> >> took pieces of them out of context,
Of curse. QUOTED. You wanna see it in context?
> >> cobbled them together,
No. There was WON DIRECT QUOTE.
> >> then added his own words:
"Neatly," and "Smartly."
> >> and a fake signature.
"sinofabitch" instead of sionnach.
> >> Which is exactly what he did.
INDEEDY. That's HOWE COME you deny it.
> >> The actual quote is misleading
That so?
> >> when taken out of context,
We'd been talkin abHOWET beatin the dog with a shoe...
> >> and Jerry's faked "quote"
The WON sinofabitch totally DENIES.
> >> is downright meaningless.
Only if you're a MENTAL CASE.
> > Here's Jerry's version
> > "I Dropped The Leash, Threw My
> > Right Arm Over The Lab's Shoulder,
> > Grabbed Her Opposite Foot With My
> > Left Hand, Rolled Her On Her Side,
> > Leaned On Her, Smartly Growled Into
> > Her Throat And Said "GRRRR!" And
> > Neatly Nipped Her Ear," sinofabitch.
>
> > Here's yours;
>
> > "I dropped the leash, threw my
> > right arm over the Lab's shoulder,
> > grabbed her opposite foot with my
> > left hand, rolled her on her side,
> > leaned on her, said "GRRRR!" and
> > nipped her ear.
> > --Sara Sionnach
"The actual quote is misleading when taken out of context"
See?
"The actual quote is misleading when taken out of context"
From: "sionnach" <rhyfe...@msn.com>
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2004 18:43:01 -0500
Subject: Re: E-Collars - with Vibrator?
"J1Boss" <j1b...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040323173916...@mb-m17.aol.com...
> > I can't imagine needing anything higher than a
> > 5 with it, even with an insensitive dog like a Lab.
>
> I can't remember what model of Innotek I have, but
> I had a pointer ignore a neck-muscle-pulsing 9.
Hm. Just out of curiosity, under what circumstances,
and at what distance?
Personally, I'd be inclined to suspect collar failure
if that happened, especially if the dog was at a distance
and/or if there were trees or some other terrain which
could affect range.
From: sionnach (rhyfe...@email.msn.com)
Subject: Re: Correct use of prong collar
Date: 2001-05-05 13:03:14 PST
> And Sally responded:
> >Who said that? I would never do or recommend
> >that, and neither would most of the regulars on here.
> >Sally Hennessey
"The actual quote is misleading when taken out of context"
> I've posted my entire quote, since Patch failed to do so.
> Take it out of context and you'd think I was flinging puppies
> across the room!
"The actual quote is misleading when taken out of context"
> here's what I said (keep in mind that we're talking about a
> 12 week old ~25# FCR puppy):
> A small scruff shake is appropriate if he's
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> very persistant.
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Um, may I suggest a re-wording that might make
it clearer- given that "scruff shake" is too easily
misinterpreted as "pick the puppy up by the scruff
of the neck and shake the puppy in the air"?
I think I'd phrase it something like "if the puppy is very
persistant, it can be appropriate to take hold of the
loose skin at the back of the neck and give a slight
shake to the *skin*".
Janet's not talking about actually shaking
the puppy, which I think we ALL agree is
abusive."
"The actual quote is misleading when taken out of context"
That's INSANE. Ain't it. So's this, here's professor
of ANAL-ytic behaviorISM research at UofWI marshall
"SCRUFF SHAKE and SCREAM "NO!" into ITS face for five
seconds and lock IT in a box for ten minutes contemplation"
dermer:
"At this point, "No" does not have any behavioral function.
But, if you say "No,"pick up the puppy by its neck and
shake it a bit, and the frequency of the biting decreases
then you will have achieved too things.
First, the frequency of unwanted chewing has decreased;
and two, you have established "No" as a conditioned punisher.
How much neck pulling and shaking? Just the
minimum necessary to decrease the unwanted
biting.
**********IS THAT A CONSISTENT 5 SECONDS?************
When our dog was a puppy, "No" came before mild
forms of punishment (I would hold my dog's mouth
closed for a few seconds.) whereas "Bad Dog" came
before stronger punishement (the kind discussed above).
"No" is usually sufficient but sometimes I use "Bad Dog"
to stop a behavior. "Bad Dog" ALWAYS works," marshall
dermer, research professor of ANAL-ytic behaviorISM at
UofWI. For MOORE animal abuse, please visit dr p.
BWAHAHAHHAHAAAA!!!!!
That's INSANE. Ain't it.
"The actual quote is misleading when taken out of context"
You're a liar and dog abusing mental case.
> --
> Janet B
> www.bestfriendsdogobedience.com
> http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/bestfriendsobedience/album
("`-''-/").___..--''"`-._
TO...@dog-play.com
> Our old Chesapeake Bay Retriever mix has been barking indoors at night
> for no reason whatsoever. It started last winter when he was acting a
http://www.cdsindogs.com/
--
Diane Blackman
There is no moral victory in proclaiming to abhor violence
while preaching with violent words.
http://dog-play.com/ http://dogplayshops.com/
Rocky
> He's started doing it again now. Barking for absolutely no
> reason. He's not growling like he did last year, but he'll
> just lie there (awake) letting out a bark or two every few
> minutes.
That's how Rocky communicates sometimes - a scheduled bark. He
never did this pre-epilepsy and I'm pretty sure that it has to
do with him feeling generally unsure of what's going on.
--
--Matt. Rocky's a Dog.
AnimalBehaviorForensicSc...@hushmail.com
TO...@dog-play.com wrote:
> On 20 Oct 2005 15:04:09 -0700 Moonlit...@hotmail.com whittled these words:
>
> > Our old Chesapeake Bay Retriever mix has been
> > barking indoors at night for no reason whatsoever.
The dog is INSECURE and AFRAID because he's been
ABUSED for YEARS by his DEMENTED owner, JUST LIKE
most of the dogs here.
All she got to do is PRAISE HIM and he'll STOP BEING AFRAID.
Your CRAP links AIN'T NUTHIN but SALES PITCHES
from a veterinarian and a pharmacutical company.
THERE AIN'T NO SUCH THING as "canine cognitive disorder",
it's PLAIN OLD INSECURITY and ANXXXIHOWESNESS which can
be CURED NEARLY INSTANTLY by using PRAISE.
> Diane Blackman
Your dogs are DYIN from STRESS INDUCED AUTO-IMMUNE
DIS-EASE aka The Puppy Wizard's SYNDROME <{); ~ ) >
GAUBSTER2 aka steve crane, Hill's Science Diet Nutritionist:
>> Is there such a thing as dementia in old dogs?
>> and what are the symptoms.
>> Thank you.
>
>Yes, there is...it's known as canine cognitive dysfunction syndrome.
....and Hill's has the only food CLINICALLY PROVEN to
fight cognitive dysfunction in dogs. Older dogs fed b/d
had a 58% learning improvement in one clinical study.
74% of dogs fed b/d had fewer "accidents" in the house.
61% of dogs fed b/d had an increased enthusiasm when
greeting family members.
Those results were all after only 30 days of being on
the food. Pennie won't (convienently) mention that since
she hates Hill's.
Melinda Shore
In article <6ldmbv8ofb0utd93k...@4ax.com>,
Sara <forgett...@shaw.ca> wrote:
> Yes, and the symptoms can be treated with a drug
> called "Anypril" (I think that's the correct spelling).
Anipryl. My elderly dog was on it, as well (US $60/month).
It lost its effectiveness over time, but when it worked it
worked well.
Another treatment is Science Diet B/D food.
--
Melinda Shore -
When I talked with the vet about it she recommended
omega-3 fatty acids.
--
Melinda Shore -
Rocky
Gwen Watson said in rec.pets.dogs.health:
>> Perhaps supplemented with CoQ10 and/or DMG?
> Well that helped alot!<g>! OK so what is DMG?
Dimethylglycine, an immune system booster. I was giving it to
Rocky for quite a while as part of a seizure reduction regime
when his seizures were coming fast and furious. Amongst other
things, DMG is thought to increase oxygen transport, including
to the brain.
Coenzyme Q10 is an antioxidant. There are studies underway
investigating its effectiveness on Parkinson Disease.
http://www.parkinson.org/newscoq10.htm
--
--Matt. Rocky's a Dog.
So, basically we're talkin abHOWET a STRESS
INDUCED AUTO-IMMUNE DIS-EASE aka The Puppy
Wizard's SYNDROME <{); ~ ) >
> http://www.floridapetpages.com/articles/CanineCognitiveDysfunction.html
> Canine Cognitive Dysfunction
> Any of us who has had the blessing of having a beloved pet
> live to be well on in years knows that the aging process in
> pets often causes deterioration in the quality of life. Some
> changes we may regard as senility or "old dog syndrome".
Yeah. That's USUALLY just a case of INSECURITY.
It can be CURED NEARLY INSTANTLY by simply NOT
DOIN what the EXXXPERTS tell us to do to HOWER
critters.
> It can be very disheartening to see a canine friend
> who once was an active, happy, frolicking family member
> lose his playfulness,
When we get OLD we don't LIKE PLAYIN like we done pryor as a child.
> "forget" his house training,
Critters DON'T "FORGET" HOWEsbreaking.
> begin to wake during the night and sleep during the day,
Sometimes THAT'S caused by STRESS.
> become irritable
THAT'S caused by being MISUNDERSTOOD and NEGLECTED.
> or sometimes fail to recognize or
> respond to his favorite people,
Yeah. A REMINDER is all that's necessary to
trigger them good old memories, that's all.
> all without any detectable physical explanation.
IOW, THERE AIN'T NUTHIN WRONG.
> For many years this problem, now known as
> canine cognitive dysfunction, had no known cause
BECAUSE THERE AIN'T NUTHIN WRONG.
> or hope for solution.
Well THAT'S on accHOWENT of those who throw
arHOWEND idiotic terminology like "canine
cognitive dysfunction" DON'T KNOW enough
abHOWET it to CURE the "PROBLEM" which got
NO CAUSE other than MISHANDLING.
> It was either accepted by the owners until the
> pet passed on of other causes, or eventually
> resulted in the euthanasia of the family friend
> who was no longer enjoying his own life.
BECAUSE THEIR VETERINARIANS DON'T KNOW NUTHIN ABHOWET IT.
> In many cases it had soiled the carpets,
THAT'S CAUSED BY ANXXXIHOWESNESS.
> disturbed the sleep of family members
So they MURDER their FRIEND for bein ANXXXIHOWES.
> and even snapped at his owners or their best friends.
BECAUSE THEY MISHANDLED HIM.
> It is now known that this condition is caused by an
> abnormality in the function of chemicals in the brain
> called catecholamines and are not due to some mysterious
> aging change.
Well then, just give a pharmacutical and the
critter will RETURN TO NORMAL just like freakin
MAGICK, isn't THAT correct, Doctor?
> Fortunately, there are now available through your
> veterinarian prescription medications which can
> very often reverse these changes and cause marked
> improvement, often for several years.
That's PERFECT!
> There is also an herbal formula available which can
> help many cases. Use of these medications is contraindicated
> in pets taking certain other medications; hence, it is
> important that when you consult your veterinarian about
> such troubles to alert the doctor about any prescription,
> over-the-counter or herbal medications your pet is already
> receiving.
Well then, it's FORTUNATE we got BEHAVIOR MODIFICATION
techniques which can CURE this condition FOR FREE! AIN'T
IT, Doctora.
> We have been blessed by medical research
With toxic psychopharmacuticals.
> so as our pets can live much happier and enjoyable lives
We DON'T NEED any CHEMICALS to CURE insecurity, doctora.
> into their own "golden years".
The "GOLDEN YEARS" wouldn't be SO "GOLDEN" if
we didn't MISHANDLE HOWER CRITTERS.
> Presented as a community service by Nancy M.
> Gerhardt, DVM of Kindness Animal Clinic in
> Bradenton 941-753-8948.
EXXXCELLENT!
This link AIN'T NUTHIN MORE than an
ADVERTISEMENT from the pharmcutical company:
"Please monitor your dog closely for possible adverse
reactions associated with any increase in dose. These
adverse reactions include vomiting, diarrhea, anorexia
(poor appetite) and excess salivation.
Every 6 months your dog will need a blood panel and
examination prior to refilling your dog's prescription."
Dopamine is the "FEEL GOOD" chemical released
by substances such as L.S.D. alcohol and marijuana.
Proposed modes of action:
Anipryl® enhances dopaminergic nerve cell function
Increases dopamine synthesis and release
Inhibits dopamine reuptake
Decreases dopamine catabolism by inhibiting MaOB
Potentates dopamine action
May decrease toxic free radical production while
increasing their removal
Dr. Mike @ VetInfo:
"Affected dogs may have almost any behavioral change.
Most commonly the symptoms are more along the line of
forgetting housebreaking routines, forgetting habits
like showing up in the kitchen at dinnertime or going
outside and then seeming not to know why they did that -
-- and repeating the process over and over. Increases
or decreases in aggression are sometimes seen, though.
This problem is treated using selegiline (Anipryl Rx).
It seems to help about half the dogs we think might have
cognitive dysfunction. I am not sure if we are just not
diagnosing this condition well or if the medication is
only effective half the time, though."
"This disorder causes confusion about everyday tasks
and everyday experiences. There is a medication that
helps some dogs with this problem, selegiline (Anipryl
Rx).
Our experience has been pretty variable with this
medication but it doesn't appear to be harmful. It
is expensive (about 50 to 70 dollars per month) but
some dogs really seem to improve a lot in their overall
attitude when it is used."
"Selegiline (Anipryl Rx) is a medication that seems
to have veterinary endocrinologists choosing up sides
and issuing lots of strong opinions. I have a couple
of textbooks that suggest it shouldn't be used at all
and a couple more that think it will help a lot.
The most recent information, pretty much the only
study not funded by the companies that produce
selegiline, is that it works really well in about
20% of dogs, OK in another 20% and doesn't work
well at all for the remaining 60%, when treating
hyperadrenocorticism (Cushing's disease).
In the dogs in which it worked, it did appear to
slow or arrest the growth of the pituitary tumor,
so that was a strong incentive to consider use,
especially in the subset of dogs with the tumor
type it appears to work best for which was identified
by MRI exam.
There is another complicating factor with the use
of selegiline. It is also used to treat canine
cognitive dysfunction and it is highly likely that
many patients with Cushing's disease also have
canine cognitive dysfunction, since the diseases
are most common in the same age groups. So some
of the perceived improvement is potentially due
to a concurrent problem.
There really isn't a good way, other than observation
of clinical signs, to tell if selegiline is working well.
Since people do want to get results, there is always
the potential for a placebo effect in these evaluations."
Mike Richards, DVM
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